#General Chat

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wise crown
hexed oasis
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if you have photoshop you can also just grab the individual layers from the psd files on [[Vampire Survivors/Media]]

waxen flintBOT
wise crown
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I see

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I stick with ms paint though and don't have ps 😅

hexed oasis
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you can probably open psd in gimp

wise crown
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I'll check it out

hexed oasis
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i've never used it, i've just got an old version of the adobe suite from before the cloud subscription stuff

wanton plinth
wise crown
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Interesting

plush rose
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hey, does the wiki support display of .apng files? I got animations of some enemies that are partially transparent, and .gifs can't do it apparently

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so I'd have to use apngs instead

plush rose
hexed oasis
hexed oasis
plush rose
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how about webp?

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or should I just forget partially transparent animations

hexed oasis
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it's supported, idk if i've seen it used much tho - maybe if you only use it specifically for animations with translucency, and stick to gif or mp4 for anything else

plush rose
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okie, it's for the ghost enemy animations actually; they're translucent

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there are also some more but I'm not there yet

hexed oasis
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@plush rose make sure you're fixing the links on all those enemy sprites - you're leaving behind some stuff https://i.imgur.com/HGoVKJu.png
i'm guessing they probably look like {{Sprite|Ghost-2|medium}} and need the link param added - {{Sprite|Ghost2|medium|link=Ghost}}

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plush rose
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ahh that, I think that's because those sprite templates didn't have link params before, so it tries to link to a page with the sprite's name instead

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but oki, I'll fix it at once

plush rose
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sprites

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anyway, I need some clarifications about the stage infobox

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what is that "enemy minimum" param exactly for???

plush rose
limpid totem
plush rose
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yeahhh, but it changes for every wave so uhh

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I guess its the starting minimum spawns?

hexed oasis
waxen flintBOT
hexed oasis
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a few stages have it set to something [[Property:Enemy minimum]]

waxen flintBOT
hexed oasis
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mostly hyper mode

plush rose
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strange, I can't find any stat that corresponds to that thing in the data file

hexed oasis
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yea i was looking thorugh it too and don't see anything either, so idk what the original intent of that infobox param was supposed to be

tropic zephyr
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Also a good chance it’s not something it contains

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I’ve found dezzel’s github thing contains a lot less info than you’d hope in general, info that needs the source code (which can’t be posted here, anyway)

hexed oasis
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yea that's a bit unfortunate, i get why the code shouldn't be shared but it does make documenting how stuff works a lot more difficult

limpid totem
plush rose
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closest thing I can find to that enemy minimum thingy is the "starting spawns" stat

hexed oasis
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if it was mono rather than il2cpp at least we could easily look through decompiled stuff directly in c# individually without having to share anything, but trying to parse through obfuscated decompiled c is well beyond my knowhow

plush rose
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I wanna learn it in my free time but idek where to start

hexed oasis
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learn what?

limpid totem
plush rose
limpid totem
plush rose
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I wonder if it's similar to other games where you gotta find an encryption key hidden in the files to decrypt and read the game's code or somethig

limpid totem
plush rose
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shadow fight 2's like that lol

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and their devs keep changing the key every update because hackers keep finding it

limpid totem
limpid totem
hexed oasis
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for a lot of games it's pretty simple, you just use dnspyex and open the right dll file - if it's a unity game compiled in mono then you're essentially done and can just browse the codebase in dnspyex... but if the game was compiled by il2cpp, then it's converted into machine code and all that can be decompiled is back into c, not c#, so you also need something like ghidra and a lot of manual time spent guessing what stuff does to try to piece it together

limpid totem
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since VS updates are pretty sparse

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||what are the chances i could convince the VS devs to release the source code (to trusted people/ modders)||

tropic zephyr
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Low

hexed oasis
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wouldn't even need the source released oifficially, just one release of the game compiled on mono rather than il2cpp, even on a second branch, and you'd be able to decompile all the c# to browse through

limpid totem
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(its a known beta access key)

hexed oasis
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yea old engine you could directly access the javascript it used to be written in, right? would be a similar sort of thing to that if the unity version was compiled with mono, you could just look through it
idk if we should be using old engine code to assume stuff about how the current engine game works tho - there could have been some inconsistencies in porting, never know

limpid totem
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there could be something there...

hexed oasis
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maybe at some point someone could go through all the public manifest ids on steamdb and try downloading all old versions

limpid totem
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yeah also im pretty sure some of the earlier new engine versions were compiled differently

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or were formatted diferently

limpid totem
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im looking through the steam db site for VS and there might be useful things listed there for modding/ version things EyesVS (maybe not though...)

hexed oasis
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the manifest ids would be the main thing, so you can download old versions directly off steam, as long as it's from a public branch

wise crown
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As well as logos and app icons

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On SteamDB

plush rose
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should side B tracks be added to stage infoboxes?

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it would be neat if you can also add alternate tracks on the template that gets displayed only if you switch between the infobox's tabbers

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i'm probably just spouting word salad but basically if the infobox displays "Normal" mode deets, it shows the default stage them and if its switched to "Inverse" the stage theme displayed would be the alternate track

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also, the Luck bonus param should be additive, not multiplicative, so it should display values like +(number)%

wanton plinth
open crystal
hexed oasis
waxen flintBOT
hexed oasis
wanton plinth
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i think i see it now

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i'll see if i can get something out of it

limpid totem
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@wise crown the guide for unlocking {{toastie}} is missing some crucial info (like how its not just killing a non red reaper for the unlock)

waxen flintBOT
limpid totem
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also apparently the distance from the ring is further then what the wiki says for it

wise crown
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@limpid totem added an "incomplete" notice in the section for now

plush rose
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I wonder what sets Bat Country bats apart from their normal counterparts when they seem to have identical properties but have different IDs

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I wish I could just ask a dev away for quick questions like this

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like they seem to be identical other than the bats from Bat Country having the word "scaling" slapped on their ID

plush rose
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thank you wiki wizard

hexed oasis
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all params in the new infoboxes, you can define a global one (without a number appended) for all version numbers, and/or individual params per version number - any individual numbered ones will override the global one

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so theoretically we could even do stuff like separate release dates for each character skin, or cost amounts, unlock conditons, etc.

hexed oasis
wanton plinth
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could be the same scaling as endless mode

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or tiny bridge

plush rose
plush rose
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there's no "skill" indicated either

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mysterious

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also it's going to be very hard to fill in room 1665's page

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the readable data file doesn't for stages do not show what enemies are supposed to appear in each wave

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INACESSIBILITY BE MY DEATH

wise crown
tropic zephyr
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For whatever reason, visually invert stages makes it appear ONE PIANO OVER

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Without it, it’s 2 pianos. With, it’s 3

wise crown
tropic zephyr
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This setting is unironically the worst in the game

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It’s caused me such a headache

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Why cant it just be cosmetic

wise crown
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devs want us to document all the little gimmicks I guess lol

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and make things more complicated

tropic zephyr
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Also the only wording change needed for toastie is it needs to be an instakill I guess, or something similar

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Ill do some quick testing

tropic zephyr
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oh right i forgot i tested this already

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it has to be BASEGAME instakills

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...which i listed already on the toastie page lmfao

cold creek
wanton plinth
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thankfully you can trigger it multiple times

tropic zephyr
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yep

limpid totem
wise crown
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Not necessarily related to the VS Wiki, but I would like to share this news with you guys: Balatro Wiki has now finally forked off from Fandom and is now hosted by Weird Gloop!
https://balatrowiki.org
(that also means the few links from this wiki to the Fandom Balatro wiki are changed to the one on Weird Gloop)

Balatro Wiki

This is the community-maintained wiki for Balatro, a poker-inspired, roguelike deck builder all about creating powerful synergies and winning big. As of 17 June, 2025 Balatro Wiki is up to date with version 1.0.1o-FULL (Friends of Jimbo 4). Learn how to earn chips and influence mult!

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not an admin there, but I did help the admin team with a few small things

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(that also means the few links from this wiki to the Fandom Balatro wiki are changed to the one on Weird Gloop)
Already done lol

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well, I guess I can now update this list

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another quality wiki saved from fand*m hell

lunar talon
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woweee look at this cool new thing!!!
https://vampire.survivors.wiki/w/Unlock_Guides#Emerald_Diorama

Vampire Survivors Wiki
Unlock Guides

Unlock Guides are official images produced by poncle following the release of DLC expansions, which help guide players through the content of the expansion. Both a text-description and a sprite version are typically published.
Operation Guns was the first expansion to have official unlock guides created for it, in May 2024.

wise crown
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Noice!

lunar talon
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if anyone spots any errors/spelling mistakes or anything please let me know and we can edit it - but I'm hoping it's all correct
there's a lot of stuff on it haha 🙏

cold creek
open crystal
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do we know the number of enemies required to unlock characters like Almaric Sniper, Axe Armor and Fleaman ?

Vampire Survivors Wiki
Axe Armor

The Axe Armor is one of the secret playable characters in the Ode to Castlevania DLC in Vampire Survivors. Their starting weapon is the Axe.

Vampire Survivors Wiki
Fleaman

The Fleaman is one of the secret playable characters in the Ode to Castlevania DLC in Vampire Survivors. He starts with no weapon, but starts with Game Killer (0).

limpid totem
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but its not too large of an amount

open crystal
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is little clover affected by luck my notes say no but the wiki says yes

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Does anyone know the base odds of Sapphire Mist Darkana and how luck affects it?

wise crown
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@hexed oasis would it be ok if I used your dpl code for capitalization redirects for the Balatro Wiki?

hexed oasis
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go for it

wise crown
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ok

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yeah I do talk a lot about this wiki to them

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because we did a lot of cool things here after the fork

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I want them to have some of our cool ideas and standards too

hexed oasis
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i don't play balatro and won't be editing over there at all, so feel free to take whatever code and stuff you want

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(would be good to put a code comment at the top of whatever you copy over linking back to where you got it, but not necessary - most mine's sourced from rsw or brightershores anyway and tweaked for our needs)

wise crown
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yeah, definitely

hexed oasis
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also if you want to start doing some smw or calc stuff over there and need help setting up any of that let me know... you would need admin to get the calc stuff going since it's a js gadget, but i'm always open for general js/lua/wikitext code help

wise crown
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alright, will do

hexed oasis
wise crown
hexed oasis
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(still just the ui, it doesn't actually do anything yet)

wise crown
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that is pretty cool tho, ngl

limpid totem
hexed oasis
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i could see loading the save file being used in other stuff across the wiki too, like finding missing collection items or whatnot

wise crown
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that would be insane

hexed oasis
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tho it'll probably be limited to just pc versions? steam/epic

wise crown
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probably

hexed oasis
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idk if any other platforms have access to their save file

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or if it's formatted any differently

limpid totem
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i think on mobile too, but i think its more complicated there

hexed oasis
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i also did a little messing around with the checksum in the save, see if i could edit the save and make a new checksum - possibly have some kind of simple gold adder or whatever... it seems possible, but i couldn't get it to generate the same checksum from an existing save without modifying anything else so it'd probably take some more looking into, ik there have been some save editors in the past that i looked through the source of a bit
https://github.com/benediktwerner/vampire-survivors-save-editor/blob/master/index.html (3 years old)
https://github.com/Kartones/vampire-survivors-savegame-editor/blob/main/vs-savegame-editor.mjs (4 months ago)

limpid totem
hexed oasis
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that's what i thought too, but doing that with an existing save, without modifying anything, doesn't generate the same value as the checksum in the existing save

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it's also a bit more involved since we've gotta use what's available in the web browser, can't do anything with local utilities

limpid totem
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for it

hexed oasis
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yup, tried that both with the checksum left in the json but blank, and with the checksum key completely removed from the json... also with it minified and with it spaced - they all give different values, but none matching the current checksum already in the save

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something to mess with more later ¯_(ツ)_/¯ but even if i can't get an editor working, there's still a lot of neat stuff i can see being done on the wiki just from reading the save

wise crown
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Or even bsw

hexed oasis
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nah, since it's an mmo, there's no local save file, all the account/save stuff is web apis, and the only local stuff is the game's own data/cache, which they have a bot that scans for changes and makes new pages for new items

hexed oasis
# wise crown Does rsw have anything like this?

though they don't use local save uploading, they do still use player saves to display stuff - since it's web apis most of it is done with a username input to lookup rather than uploading a save file, but one of the most common places it's used is for quest requirements https://i.imgur.com/b4WnVAz.png showing which quest and skill reqs that player name still has left to do for whichever quest page they're looking at

this would be something poncle would have to do, but potentially they could have their new poncle account/cross save stuff on a web api to be queried by the account somehow, then we could pull in the save from any platform ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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hexed oasis
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also... we should probably have a savedata wiki page, documenting the file locations and what each of the keys in the json represent

tropic zephyr
tropic zephyr
wise crown
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this would be something poncle would have to do, but potentially they could have their new poncle account/cross save stuff on a web api to be queried by the account somehow, then we could pull in the save from any platform ¯_(ツ)_/¯
that'd be pretty cool

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it's absolutely something we should discuss with poncle

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(maybe even weird gloop too)

hexed oasis
wise crown
cold creek
hexed oasis
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if anyone knows what any of those i left with edit buttons are for, go ahead and fill them 😛 [[SaveData]]

waxen flintBOT
hexed oasis
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still a lot more of the save to go through, just got started on it

hexed oasis
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all the keys are listed on there now, i've got no idea what a lot of them are for, so someone else will have to fill them in

also, if anyone has a save from another platform, i'd be interested to know if the saveDate key also uses filetime rather than a unix timestamp outside windows

wise crown
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pretty small thing, but I've now made sure the links in the intro sections of character and weapon pages all use sprites in their links, for consistency

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also, love how I was simultaneously working on something else on the balatro wiki lol

wise crown
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I'm guessing Lovenus did this

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ah, nvm it's cali :p

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hexed oasis
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yea working my way through a few more versions, from 1.2.0 to 1.5.0 done now

wise crown
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alr, lemme know if u need help

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tho I might be away for a few hours at least

wanton plinth
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oh yeah sorry for actually not doing those, had to switch focus recently

hexed oasis
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np, wiki's collaberative, stuff's always in-progrogress/incomplete

hexed oasis
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this one might need someone else to take a look through https://vampire.survivors.wiki/w/Updates/v1.6.0_patch_notes
i've done all the ones from it i can, but there's so many patch notes in there i probably missed some pages some of them should be added to
also a couple i've got no idea what pages the note is talking about, like Fixed error where Cold Explosions were triggering on already dead targets., idk what all "cold explosions" would be referring to

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but that's up to 1.6.0 done

wanton plinth
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should be out of bounds explosions

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and Mirage Robe/J'Odore most likely

hexed oasis
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put it on out of bounds for now, idk if mirage are specifically "cold explosions" without oob or if they're just regular explosions

hexed oasis
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@wise crown finally got sick of the rc view new changes button not appearing, so i did some js magic to intercept the network requests and manually make the button appear... if you've got any userscript browser extension, you can use it
https://gist.github.com/Californ1a/e0de898ed395f1d503d702d85b039361/raw/watcher.user.js

you could probably make it work in your own personal common.js as well, but i didn't want to clutter mine with it so i did a userscript instead

also, i haven't messed with the live updates button at all in that, so that button probably still doesn't work, but i could look into it later - it's just not something i use

wise crown
maiden jasper
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I found out Keremet gets stats per level, but not sure the best format for the large amount of Armor gets.
https://vampire.survivors.wiki/w/Keremet#Passive_bonuses

I don't think having a table with 30+ rows will look good. I did already mention that the armor gains stop at the armor cap.

Vampire Survivors Wiki
Keremet

Keremet is one of the secret playable characters in the Ode to Castlevania DLC in Vampire Survivors. His starting weapon is Keremet Morbus.

hexed oasis
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maybe i'll make it into a gadget... but really it still just seems like some kind of bug on wg's or poncle's end, with the domain name or cloudflare stuff so idk

wise crown
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Yeah

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Or maybe some issue in the backend

limpid totem
hexed oasis
maiden jasper
hexed oasis
wise crown
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i.e. from my experience, it usually only loads after the rest of the wiki loads

hexed oasis
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oh that has nothing to do with why this specifically takes a bit longer
js done directly within the wiki takes a bit to load because mw ensures load order, all mw's own js loads before any other js even starts
but this script is off-wiki, it loads immediately on page load, but the reason it takes a sec to show the button is because it's waiting for a hung request to rc, and only after it detects that a request isn't returning a response, then it shows the button - whereas when rc is working normally, the request returns properly and shows the button after the request is done

wise crown
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interesting!

wise crown
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[[Talk:Mask_of_the_Red_Death]]

waxen flintBOT
wise crown
limpid totem
wise crown
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if not, I'll just change the pronouns to they or it

tropic zephyr
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The reaper is implied to be male, but they/them has only ever been used to describe red death (character) officially (yootooz page lol)

limpid totem
tropic zephyr
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O i see it

limpid totem
tropic zephyr
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Yeah

limpid totem
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and its just stuck

wise crown
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thank you

wise crown
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@hexed oasis what do you think of making custom character/weapon tooltips more widely used across the wiki through the usage of a new shortcut template?

e.g. jokers, the main category in balatro, have a "J" template, which is used across the wiki, which uses a tooltip base template and some dpl

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we do have character tooltips already in use for the main page and the characters page, as well as weapon tooltips in the main page, so we can potentially build off of these examples

hexed oasis
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yea was gonna say we already have them, they're just used sparingly in specific spots rather than everywhere that links to a weapon/character... imo, having extra tooltips everywhere is just added clutter, and since they aren't visible on mobile you can't actually use them for any necessary info so it's not good to rely on them for anything - plus there's already the builtin mw ones, right?

wise crown
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yeah

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but even the default tooltips aren't currently in use afaik

hexed oasis
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oh i guess that extension isn't installed

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it is on rsw

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i always turn it off anyway so i never checked

wise crown
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yea

hexed oasis
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to me, tooltips just aren't really useful and since they aren't visible on mobile it's not something a lot of focus should go into like taking time to manually go put them everywhere - instead if we wanted to have tooltips everywhere, i'd rather opt to ask wg to add the previews extension, or use wp's navigation popups gadget (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation_popups) so it's applied to everything universally rather than needing to manually maintain them when all the mobile users get nothing out of them (and many desktop users disable them)
i prefer just having them in specific cases like we have on the main page, rather than everywhere, but that may just be personal preferece

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that said, the gadget they're using is identical to the one we are
https://balatrowiki.org/w/MediaWiki:Gadget-tooltips.js
https://vampire.survivors.wiki/w/MediaWiki:Gadget-tooltips.js
the only difference being a generic entry in the tooltips_list variable at the top, to manually define a template within the tooltip template, rather than only the predefined ones within the gadget
all we'd have to do is add that generic entry to the list and there'd be nothing stopping anyone from making a similar template setup to theirs - however, we've also been moving away from dpl and using smw instead

wise crown
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does anybody know the tracks played in the stages of the dlc adventures?
I've noted down the themes for base game adventures

hexed oasis
wise crown
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will look into this, ty

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I mainly default to noting down info from the game itself 😅

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except for stuff like IDs

hexed oasis
wise crown
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yup

wise crown
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@hexed oasis from what I can tell, it seems like for all of the tracks in the OG adventure, jungle vs version plays in normal mode while the original jungle track plays in inverse mode, right?

hexed oasis
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if that's what it's showing then yea, i haven't looked

wise crown
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alr

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either way, noted down the other tracks played in which stage (in a private area where I take notes), and now I'm gonna document those on the wiki

hexed oasis
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@wise crown make a copy of dezz's text one, added a basic plays with column [[User:Californ1a/Sandbox/MusicTable]], it includes stages and characters, not enemies/bosses - i'll probably add the small italic text for stage modes (similar to character search skins https://i.imgur.com/uWmKSMa.png ), but there's still some that wouldn't really work, like otc credits

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waxen flintBOT
wise crown
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and temptation of the occult plays in the secrets menu

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but those aren't automatically listed, since there's no theme param in these infoboxes

hexed oasis
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yea, menus aren't listed... boss enemies definitely can be once i get around to converting that infobox, but menus might just have to be manually noted above the table or something like that, idk, unless we want to make a infobox for menu uis, but i don't see that being too useful... maybe instead, we just make a small template that can go on menu ui pages to set the theme smw prop - or it could be something that [[Template:Audio]] can set, if you |smw=yes or something like that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

waxen flintBOT
wise crown
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yeah

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[[Template:Audio]] in our case is just for pages without an infobox, or at least with an infobox where adding a theme parameter might only work for like 1 or 2 pages at most

waxen flintBOT
hexed oasis
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@wise crown alright if you look now it picks up on those with |smw=yes in Template:Audio [[User:Californ1a/Sandbox/MusicTable]]

tho the way i'm setting the smw param in the audio template is kinda cursed, using the filename to query smw for the music page that uses that file in the infobox and then setting that returned page name to the theme param... it might be worth just changing the title param to take in the theme page link instead of the track's title, then i could just set the theme param directly to that link rather than having to query smw for the page's name first

waxen flintBOT
wise crown
hexed oasis
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alternatively, rewrite the audio template in lua, only take in the theme page name as a param, and build the whole output from smw of the theme page 😛

wise crown
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that'll be something you can do if u want, since you know lua better than me :p

hexed oasis
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that's probably overkill tbh

wise crown
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yeah, just joking

hexed oasis
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think i'll just change the title param to link to the track page for now

wise crown
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@kindred void oh yeah, and as a best practice (especially in UX), I'll say this from now: if a weapon is mentioned multiple times in a section, link it only the first time, rather than each time it is mentioned

kindred void
wise crown
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np

wise crown
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@hexed oasis oh yeah, and for side B tracks, only those with the side B track as default are listed

hexed oasis
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It is intentionally only showing each stage once per track right now (not both default and hyper) if that's what you mean, if it's something else then I'm not sure what you mean

wise crown
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Yeah that's what I mean

hexed oasis
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hm, listing them all individually seems a bit cluttered

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hexed oasis
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maybe this is better

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wise crown
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That's OK to me

hexed oasis
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the character ones can get a little long, but idk how to really deal with that, there's no easy way to filter out the skins that are just weapon changes https://i.imgur.com/XHmb8Az.png

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(also the ordering is alphabetical, not the same order as the infobox buttons... again, no good way of dealing with that)

wise crown
hexed oasis
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well you've got skins like retired poe and unblinded imelda that could possibly have their own theme

wise crown
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Can argue the same thing where stages list Hyper, Inverse, and Normal

wise crown
hexed oasis
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yea they don't currently, but i'm saying those skins that are more custom could have their own theme - future skins could

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it's an option in the data, they could have a bgm set in the json

wise crown
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Interesting 🤔

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Even then, now's not really the time for yet, but it can definitely be something that can be revisited in the future if that will ever be the case

hexed oasis
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it doesn't really know if that list is the same amount as the full list of modes on that stage's page - the smw query is only finding all the entries where the theme matches and it doesn't know about any where the theme doesn't match, so it doesn't know if there are more entries where it doesn't match or if that's the full list

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the main thing i'm trying to avoid is having to do an smw query for every track in the album - right now it does one query to get all the tracks, and another query to get all the pages where the theme is set to any of those tracks, so it's just 2 total queries before even starting to build the table, rather than one on every row

wise crown
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Makes sense

hexed oasis
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update history now supports defining specific platforms https://i.imgur.com/ZVkJGFX.png
open to suggestions on styling, using the platform icons within a second badge was just the first thing that came to mind

Imgur
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they're definitely a bit small, but making them any larger kind of pushed the line height higher overall, so i did make hovering over them show the full platform name

wise crown
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they look cool to me

limpid totem
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like having every patch on different dates an different platforms that fixed something would fill up the pages too much

hexed oasis
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in general they should only be used when something doesn't apply to all platforms - when no platforms are shown, that's assumed to be a patch for all platforms, so they'd only be listed when it's not all of them

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so mostly just the hotfixes

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though yeah, i can see how listing the same fix on a page multiple times, once for each platform's hotfix, might be a bit cluttered, but i can't really think of a better way to have that history listed for anyone trying to see the history of that particular thing

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we could just use the steam version's patch notes and not have other platforms in the update history, but i think the history of the other platforms should be documented too

wise crown
wise crown
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WG is now hosting another pretty cool wiki: https://wiki.smite2.com/

Smite 2 Wiki

There are currently 116,462 pages (386 articles) on the wiki, and you can help improve the quality of information here by editing them and creating more! If you're interested in helping, consider joining the wiki's Discord server.

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116k pages and 386 articles though? 🤔

cold creek
wise crown
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hexed oasis
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probably from all the files, since each file has its own file ns page

wise crown
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Oh wow, you're right

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hexed oasis
wise crown
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That's insane

wise crown
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[[special:statistics]]

waxen flintBOT
tropic zephyr
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@proven pond btw, i removed your notes about direction for door and imakoo since it depends on the player's options (and the stage's page already has the directions. i added a link to the stage for imakoo's page)

proven pond
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Yeah np

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It had directions by default

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All the pages did

tropic zephyr
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oh the enemy pages

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fixed

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i'd also recommend making an account, btw

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it's easier to attribute changes to specific people that way

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also because by default, edits show ip iirc

wise crown
hexed oasis
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bestiary infobox updated

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still needs some parsing and smw stuff, but the basic conversion is done for it

wise crown
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King

limpid totem
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i should really learn how random works...

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this is alot

runic valve
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|| if you decide to master the random imagine the probabilities PoeMyGodVS ||

gusty raven
wise crown
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made this page: [[merchandise]]

waxen flintBOT
wise crown
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and of course, can't forget editing the individual pages of characters/weapons where there is the merch too

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I wonder what other page ideas we're missing (other than potentially, a couple of interface pages) 🤔

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@hexed oasis I think u mentioned to me once about potentially having individual pages for poncle's videos lol

hexed oasis
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yea, probably not really needed, but it's something that could be done

wise crown
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I mean

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most of the long-form videos are osts tho

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and a lot of the other ones are trailers

zealous venture
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Can't change it myself rn but I noticed this

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tropic zephyr
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fixed

zealous venture
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👍

wise crown
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My bad, happens to the best of us 😅

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Thx for fixing, staf

cold creek
runic valve
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sigma ratcho

cold creek
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queen poe

tropic zephyr
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congrats on the transition poe

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lol

wise crown
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grandma ratcho

tribal jetty
tropic zephyr
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Not you dani

fast tulip
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The amount of content in this game is massive

Kudos to anyone working on the wiki 🙏

gusty raven
runic valve
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maybe he is not fluent and wanted to mean content is huge with no perjorative conotation

fast tulip
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By massive I meant very large or extensive

gusty raven
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nvm

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sorry

fast tulip
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Ah ok, I was confused lol

For a second I thought the studio name had massive in it or some other sort of relation

gusty raven
runic valve
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when I try to find a word I don't know and I get more than one type I try to fit one even not fully knowing the difference if any, so that can happen when the person is not fluent

gusty raven
hexed oasis
wise crown
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Also, we're definitely not massive, at least not to the likes of Minecraft or RuneScape, but we're still undoubtedly a fairly large and popular wiki!

wise crown
thorn prism
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fandom more like I'm not a fan, dom.

wise crown
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Fandumb

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Speaking of which, I'm kinda concerned regarding the fate of the non-EN versions of the VS Wiki, all of which are still on Fandom

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I hope this doesn't mean, for example, AI would poorly translate outdated EN articles from the Fandom wiki into the Russian wiki, especially given that the Russian wiki has genuine contributors and genuinely translated articles

wise crown
fast tulip
hexed oasis
fast tulip
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Woah, I guess ctrl+F wasn’t working???

hexed oasis
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maybe you were looking at the old fandom site lol?

tropic zephyr
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he linked the new wiki

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so

limpid totem
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Or you maybe spelt gaea wrong lol

fast tulip
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Maybe?
I was spreadsheeting stuff and noticed that Gaze was missing on my list but Embrace wasn’t

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Then when I looked at the list I found one but not the other,

guess I’ve been looking at my screen too long so I couldn’t see it lol

hexed oasis
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¯_(ツ)_/¯ those tables need to get replaced eventually anyway - whenever i get around to redesigning the weapon pages infobox

limpid totem
fast tulip
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Maybe

I was using the Stats Overview page then started manually checking the DLC that came after, that could also be why

hexed oasis
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that stats page is missing a bunch of weapons, gaze isn't on there

fast tulip
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Yeahhh, would be pretty handy if it were up to date but that seems way too tedious unless you could regex/filter through the game’s code for it

hexed oasis
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i'd like to redesign that one to be more like [[Characters/Search]] with selectable columns and filters (essentially replace it with a weapon search rather than large stats tables), but it requires the infobox redesign first, so the data given in the infoboxes is actually stored on the wiki in a usable format that can be searched/filtered dynamically

waxen flintBOT
fast tulip
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Oh that’s real handy

hexed oasis
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those weapon stats tables are just way too wide, even on desktop they go off the edge of the page width, and on mobile they're just awful... so even just having the column selector on there would be really nice

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always more stuff to work on even when there aren't updates needing new pages

wise crown
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It seems like the width of navboxes in the Minerva skin (mobile layout) is broken too

hexed oasis
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I think rsw also has similar styled navboxes on Minerva, but I can take a look to compare them in a bit

hexed oasis
limpid totem
hexed oasis
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i don't see why not, unless poncle has anything against it

limpid totem
gusty raven
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the one with the drums and stuff

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thaat would be hype 🔥

limpid totem
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here is a list btw #💀survivors-spoilers message

hexed oasis
waxen flintBOT
limpid totem
hexed oasis
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idk anything about any of them, so i've no idea what info should be on any of them

limpid totem
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#💀survivors-spoilers message

hexed oasis
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hm, director's cut to me seems to just be the dev version of the game, using "currently existing" (at the time) sprites before sprites for the actual characters and weapon projectiles have been made... maybe instead of listing unused characters, it'd make more sense to have a Director's Cut page, that describes anything seen on any director cut version

limpid totem
limpid totem
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like there should be a general directers cut page

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and the unrelased characters in the unreleased/removed tab for characters that show up in it would just link to the page

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cause theres more to DC then just the characters

hexed oasis
waxen flintBOT
wise crown
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Nope, still broken on my end :/

wise crown
hexed oasis
hexed oasis
waxen flintBOT
hexed oasis
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okay now it should be fixed, whenever minerva.css cache is reloaded

wise crown
wise crown
wise crown
hexed oasis
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just keep in mind they're over a year old, so some stuff has released or changed since then

limpid totem
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since they arent in the highest quality

hexed oasis
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probably best not to, unless they're in the game files, just use screenshots from official sources for images of ones that aren't in the game files

wise crown
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Man my internet sucks at the moment, literally unable to load a 25 sec video lmao

wise crown
waxen flintBOT
limpid totem
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its not just characters

hexed oasis
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yea - if you want to wikify those descriptions a bit better so the grammar's nicer and they link to other stuff, that'd be good

wise crown
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Guess where this is from

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zealous venture
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a documentary

wise crown
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Correct

zealous venture
wise crown
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Not that it was a hard guess lol

zealous venture
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I mean I wasn't gues I already knew

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haven't seen the documentary but I knew about it

wise crown
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only watched some small parts of it so far

limpid totem
thorn prism
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maybe not the fall guys stuff yet and the transformation characters and the skeleton band should all only have two pages (1 each group including others i might have missed) but some of them like bella and torino should have their own like xanthia

wise crown
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Tbh I don't think there is enough information about them to warrant individual pages, at least for now, but that's just me

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Xanthia (who is already in-game) and even Bisconte Draculó warrant individual pages because there is a good amount of info about them

wise crown
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wonder who's downvoting these posts lol

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hexed oasis
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tribal jetty
wise crown
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Fandom staff working overtime

limpid totem
cold creek
limpid totem
limpid totem
cold creek
wise crown
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John reddit doesn't like Fandom though

cold creek
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yea but part of it just likes downvoting things for no reason at all

wanton plinth
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what is stopping the fandom version of the wiki from being turned off btw? wouldn't it be easier to get rid of it?

wise crown
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As a community, there's nothing we can really do about it. However, the best course of action would be to completely ignore the Fandom wiki and put all our efforts to build and promote the official one (as we're all doing right now.)

wanton plinth
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Oh so not even the admins there can delete or at least hide the wiki?

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This sucks

wise crown
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Not at all

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Plus, even if you attempted to do so, it'll get reverted sooner or later, and you'll get demoted and/or even blocked on the original wiki.

wanton plinth
wise crown
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But hey, at least there is a great extension that hides and/or redirects Fandom results to the official wiki

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And you get to support a lot of cool wikis that moved away from Fandom too, not just the wiki for VS!

wanton plinth
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Yeah I got that one, it has already saved me a few times

wise crown
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Yeah it's cool

wanton plinth
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Honestly a must have extension these times

wise crown
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Yup

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There's also a wiki.gg redirect extension which supports all wiki.gg wikis with Fandom counterparts

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(Not that it supports the VS Wiki, since it is not a wiki.gg wiki, but it supports a lot of cool wikis that are on wiki.gg)

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I keep both extensions, as a wiki connoisseur

wanton plinth
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Might get that one as well then

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Wonder why iwb doest go for .gg ones

wise crown
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It does support some wiki.gg wikis, but if a wiki isn't available, it's only cuz no one cared enough to submit a wiki.gg wiki onto IWB

wanton plinth
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Aaaaah makes sense

hexed oasis
wise crown
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because wiki.gg is usually the better wiki for a game than fandom in most cases from what I've seen

wise crown
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If anybody is interested, a wiki for Berserk or Die, the new game poncle published, is now live! 🎉
https://berserkordie.wiki.gg/

Berserk or Die Wiki

Welcome to the Berserk or Die Wiki, a collaborative wiki resource that is open for anyone to edit!

lunar talon
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I added some words to that wiki!!

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wowee i just added some words right now!!

wise crown
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ngl

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that is very wholesome

lunar talon
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woweee i just made ANOTHER EDIT

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(I'm probably gonna break it)

wise crown
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nah you're all good so far

lunar talon
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need to work out what to do for the stats because each chara has multiple stats
maybe keep them to the individual character pages thinking

wise crown
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perhaps base stats in the characters page

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then all stats in the individual pages

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either way, I'd say it's fine to dump all the stat info somewhere and then reorganize them later

lunar talon
shell trout
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Is there a page on the wiki for the question mark?

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I'm trying to fing id here but I'm coming up short

limpid totem
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{{?}}

waxen flintBOT
shell trout
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Like what you see on the map

tropic zephyr
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the map pages usually have what it means

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since it depends

gusty raven
shell trout
tropic zephyr
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no

shell trout
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k

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So is that sprite of the question mark anywhere on the wiki?

runic valve
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{{titto}}

waxen flintBOT
runic valve
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{{Chalanda }}

waxen flintBOT
tropic zephyr
shell trout
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Aight okay, thanks for letting me know, much appreciated.

tropic zephyr
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i will also say that if you're going to upload it - try to get a sprite directly from the game.

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from an asset ripper or something. you could ask @/Dezzelshipc

shell trout
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Ah...it was more for a thumbnail for a video I'm making.

tropic zephyr
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ah okie

hexed oasis
tropic zephyr
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similar enough

shell trout
wise crown
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@hexed oasis yooo
idk if you realized this yet, but the "View new changes" button is finally working!

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tropic zephyr
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@wise crown these might be referring to mazo familiar

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wise crown
tropic zephyr
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ah

wise crown
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in #🤖info-bot

tropic zephyr
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still, wouldnt go straight to randomazzo

wise crown
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I did make [[mazo]] redirect to Mazo Familiar

waxen flintBOT
hexed oasis
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@wanton plinth you're probably the most apt to answer this since you were filling in the weapon combos https://redd.it/1lyykxi

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also i just went though all the weapon pages and added the combos templates to any of them that were missing it, and created categories to track ones that don't have any arcana or darkana combos added yet: [[Category:Weapons with no Arcana combos]] & [[Category:Weapons with no Darkana combos]]

waxen flintBOT
hexed oasis
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the stats combos still needs to be converted to a module... it'd be kinda difficult to make a similar tracking category in wikitext

wanton plinth
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Like it's pretty straight forward until there is a hidden special interaction that has to absolutely be tested to find out

limpid totem
tropic zephyr
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iirc thats only for the second evo

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when i was testing i dont remember it happening with vol confodere

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also looking at limit breaks for interactions is funny because

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time warp limit breaks with speed. it is not affected by speed

wanton plinth
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Not even the lasers?

tropic zephyr
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time warp is the circle one

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that freezes/slows/debuffs

wanton plinth
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Yeah it keeps the sword slashes, no?

tropic zephyr
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no, that's from gemini

wanton plinth
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Never noticed that

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It does take some time to circle around tho, perhaps it was supposed to affect that

tropic zephyr
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the spin speed doesnt have anything to do with it. projectile speed doesnt affect that (nor does it matter, just a visual)

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my theory is that it increases the slowdown part (like how amount increases the slowdown of lancetVS 's XXIBloodAstronomiaVS zones)

wanton plinth
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Makes sense yeah

hexed oasis
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if anyone else wants to chime in on that thread and doesn't have a reddit account, let me know and i can rely the info

hexed oasis
limpid totem
wanton plinth
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i didnt do those

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probably just a copy paste issue

hexed oasis
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yea it seemed like a copy/paste thing to me, i just changed them to regular content cells... if they were denoting something it'd be better to do that with ref notes anyway

wise crown
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another small maintenance project idea

hexed oasis
wise crown
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That'd sound good to me

hexed oasis
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it's also really weird that current cite template has to be wrapped in ref tags manually, outside the template... but i think that's one of the fandom-made templates so it'd be good to replace it anyway

wise crown
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yeah, I agree

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and yes, it is a fandom-made template

wise crown
wise crown
# wise crown

@limpid totem here are some instructions with screenshots:

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you'll be led to this interface. click on this button

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once you click, you'll get this skeleton of a character page

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hexed oasis
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(if you’re in visual editor the red buttons pop up on the top right)

wise crown
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from there, you can fill in information

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@hexed oasis we probably should have a notice for unused content

hexed oasis
wise crown
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I wonder what character we can use here 🤔

limpid totem
wise crown
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for the unused/future notice template

limpid totem
hexed oasis
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I was thinking the hourglass weapon

limpid totem
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i think missing no fits better

hexed oasis
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missing no doesn't really denote future or time in any meaningful way, especially to those who don't know the background history of it

limpid totem
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maybe NOFUTUREVS ?

wise crown
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good one haha

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I was thinking [[bisconte]] cuz we're always trying to find him and/or waiting for the day the devs add him to the game, if that ever happens, haha

waxen flintBOT
hexed oasis
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It also depends which notice we base it off of - future or cache - do we want a notice for future content, or a notice for stuff obtained from data mining game files? Possibly both like rsw has, since they are used in different contexts

wise crown
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I'd say both

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just in case

limpid totem
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theres really only a small amount of datamined content

wise crown
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we'll always have a template ready for any scenario

hexed oasis
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[[Template:Future]] & [[Template:Datamine]] notices exist now, and i stuck future on [[torino]]

also all the citation templates are made now, [[Template:CiteGeneral]] probably being the main one, and all the others linked in the navbox [[Template:Citations]] at the bottom of them

waxen flintBOT
hexed oasis
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could possibly make ones for bsky, instagram, and tiktok if they're needed at some point, but for now it's just reddit, discord, and x

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as well as generic ones for other sites and videos

fathom trout
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Can anyone update wiki pages?

hexed oasis
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yup

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you don't even need an account (though you should probably make one, it shows your ip if you don't)

fathom trout
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I have a question

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Can someone send here info about darkana arg? I want to create page about it

hexed oasis
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not sure what that's referring to

wise crown
cold creek
# hexed oasis not sure what that's referring to

its a mini arg that led us to the 1.11 secret beta branch (do-not-open)
the entirety of the actual code cracking happened on august 14th 2024 in #💀survivors-spoilers (or about then depending on the timezone)

zealous venture
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Now I just gotta get around to remembering to work on it

wise crown
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If you mean adding the notice itself, just add {{future}} or {{datamine}} at the top

zealous venture
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No I meant the page

wise crown
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Ah

zealous venture
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Like I mean adding more words and some actual images

wise crown
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I'll take a look into it brb

zealous venture
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Actually, question about the images: would it be acceptable to add a sprite recreation? Not as like the main image of course, that would be the clearest screenshot we can get of them, but as in like labeled as a recreation in case anyone wants a direct sprite to use for anything

hexed oasis
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it's probably best to avoid that and only use official images, or screenshots from official sources

wise crown
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I've hidden the broken file links and update history for now

hexed oasis
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it's kind of on the line between fan art and actual game images... only difference is that pixel art is much easier to remake than other graphic styles

zealous venture
wise crown
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np

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you wrap something with <!-- and --> if you are using source editor

zealous venture
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Yea

wise crown
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I've hidden them from view, rather than remove them, in case if editors want to add back this info whenever this character gets released more easily

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if ever

zealous venture
# zealous venture Yea

Though I have no clue how to do anything with it, I made the page while I was bored one day and tried to improvise

wise crown
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if this is all of the info that can be possibly revealed of the character, there's not much u can do tbh

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until it becomes an officially released character

zealous venture
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Well the main thing I didn't know how to do was add images

hexed oasis
waxen flintBOT
wise crown
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@devout echo look at this:

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:p

devout echo
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:)

wise crown
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there's also a non-fandom wiki for the game btw

tropic zephyr
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oh my god the redirects

wise crown
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Yeah, I know it's a lot, but it's to maximize convenience for people searching how to unlock characters based on the given hints in the game

tropic zephyr
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yeah ik

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it's just funny seeing how many there are

wise crown
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yeah

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there's not really a convenient way to do this with a bot afaik

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maybe unless if I gathered the possible search terms beforehand

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but it's whatever

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almost done with them now

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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ok done

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even then, there will always be some of these slightly-differently worded versions of these terms in [[special:SearchDigest]]

waxen flintBOT
hexed oasis
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yea you could spreadsheet it with a column for pages to make and a column for which pages they'd redirect to, and a bot could go over that, but it's probably easier to just do them manually

wise crown
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yeah

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especially since it was easier for me to gather the possible search terms on the spot

hexed oasis
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you should definitely play around with jwb tho when you get a chance, if you ever think of anyhting that needs mass find/replace

wise crown
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I do have awb

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and funnily enough, I finally got that to work for me while mass finding/replacing a broken link on another wiki today

hexed oasis
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awb you should usually reserve for using with an actual separate bot account, but jwb is nice for using on your own account for quick stuff

wise crown
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yeah

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I used a bot for awb

hexed oasis
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at some point i'd like to tackle making a proper bot, that would read dezz's github jsons, match them to pages, and create pages/autofill infobox data... but that's a project

wise crown
#

that would be insane

hexed oasis
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and i think i've mentioned it before but i also want to mess around with leaflet at some point, see if i can get an interactive map going, at least for one stage just as a proof of concept

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gotta figure out how to create the tiles first though before even getting them into leaflet

regal flame
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has anyone seen old version of OTC stage?

hexed oasis
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i haven't, idk if anyone else has

regal flame
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like this

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hexed oasis
# regal flame like this

are the tiles used to generate the maps images like this a consistent resolution, or are they different sizes you have to piece together?

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trying to figure out if it'd be possible to just throw the raw tile images into leaflet for a dynamic map or if we'd have to generate a full map image first and slice it up - leaflet needs consistent tile sizes

regal flame
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they are consistent and every "tile" is 32x32px, and complex structures are built from this tiles

hexed oasis
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alright, good to know... might have to create the full map anyway and slice it up - it might need different zoom levels as individual tiles as well, idk, i haven't looked too much into it yet

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but i grabbed the foscari map you sent a while ago to use as a test whenever i get some time to mess with it

regal flame
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uploaded most of the other stages to the same google drive

hexed oasis
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ah cool, i'll get the rest of them

tropic zephyr
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yo

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can someone lock the wiki

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being vandalized

limpid totem
#

theyre not online right now...

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hey @wise crown or @hexed oasis
the official wikis being vandalized right now
all good now 👍

hasty mortar
limpid totem
regal flame
limpid totem
# regal flame no

the wikis being vandalised right now and none of the main wiki guys are online right now whitehandVS

heavy totem
#

is there not an emergency admin or ‘in-case-of-emergency-break-glass’ account?

limpid totem
heavy totem
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welp.

cold creek
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from what i see in {{Special:RecentChanges}} theres two emergency accounts resulting in two subsequent undos on the same pages (i might be wrong)

waxen flintBOT
tropic zephyr
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the weirdgloop and vsantibots are both fake

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they are uploading and vandalizing

cold creek
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oh nvm then

limpid totem
cold creek
wise crown
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i'm here guys!!

heavy totem
#

sometimes people vandalize things just because they can.

wise crown
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Yeah

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Ok guys, all of the vandals are blocked, thanks to everyone that helped reverting!

tropic zephyr
#

would it be possible to lock it for a bit?

wise crown
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the entire wiki? don't think this is something I can do

tropic zephyr
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rip

wise crown
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would also defeat the purpose of the wiki in the first place

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but I can protect some important/high-traffic pages

wise crown
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some pages like characters and weapons are now temporarily protected to autoconfirmed (non-newly registered) users

tropic zephyr
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yay

void blaze
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I joined the discord now and apparently you've guys already seen the vandalism, but if you can edit pages I think it would be a good idea to at least edit this

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tropic zephyr
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refresh

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it should be fixed

wise crown
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yup

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I've already reverted all of the images and even made sure to delete the revisions containing inappropriate uploads

void blaze
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same image on both computer and cell phone, but I think it's just a matter of time before it returns to normal

cold creek
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its already fixed on my side

wise crown
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same

void blaze
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For me, the image is still there, but only on the home page, It's probably just my internet or something, good night there and good work

wise crown
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also, I've hidden the accounts' names with inappropriate usernames from view (in RecentChanges and history)

thorn prism
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I checked the berserk or die wiki too just in case and it looks like nothing happened over there.

tribal jetty
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hello gamers

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oh the wiki got vandalized

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damn

wise crown
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haha

wise crown
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good thing I woke up just an hour ago

thorn prism
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I will scout the vs wiki a bit more just in case, but I think everything is dealt with.

wise crown
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yup

thorn prism
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but only visually so i some slurs are written there is a high chance i miss them

wise crown
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I encountered one revision containing a slur, so I deleted that at least

devout echo
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Could the search function be of use in this manner?

thorn prism
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logically, it would be very convenient, but there are a lot of different slurs, which would make it very long to search each one individually

wise crown
waxen flintBOT
wise crown
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that's how I did it

devout echo
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Seems like all has been taken care of, then.

wise crown
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yup

devout echo
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What an inconvenience this all must have been.

wise crown
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Yeah. It's good that it rarely happens, but vandalism really does suck

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Last time I dealt with vandalism was probably in November of last year on another wiki I edit

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And oh boy, they targeted multiple wikis on wiki.gg at the same time

thorn prism
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I just realized that the files for both versions of an empty tome are swapped (in their own pages and in the [[music]] page)

waxen flintBOT
thorn prism
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for reference (sorry this might take a lot of space):

1 - vs wiki, vs version: https://vampire.survivors.wiki/w/An_Empty_Tome_-_Vampire_Survivors

2 - vs wiki, hod version: https://vampire.survivors.wiki/w/An_Empty_Tome_(Harmony_of_Despair)

3 - vs version, vs ost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8_Mubm4_pc

4 - hod version, hod ost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaKuZzz3QN0

Vampire Survivors Wiki
An Empty Tome - Vampire Survivors

An Empty Tome is the sixth track of the Ode to Castlevania album. It was arranged by Daniele Zandara and was released alongside the rest of the album for the Ode to Castlevania DLC on 31 October 2024.
This song is an arrangement of An Empty Tome, which was composed by Michiru Yamane for Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia.

Vampire Survivors Wiki
An Empty Tome (Harmony of Despair)

An Empty Tome is the twenty-first track of the Castlevania Series album. It was originally composed by Michiru Yamane and later arranged by Yasushi Asada and was included in the Castlevania Series album for the Ode to Castlevania DLC released on 31 October 2024.
It is one of the sixteen included tracks from Castlevania: Harmony of Despair.
This ...

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06 An Empty Tome | Vampire Survivors: Ode to Castlevania

Vampire Survivors version of “An Empty Tome” by Daniele Zandara

Everyone is here in Vampire Survivors: Ode to Castlevania

The Vampire Survivors have come a long way in their honourable hunt, and after joining forces with the Belmont Family, they are the closest they've ever been. Finally, within their grasp... Another man! 🧍‍♂️

A...

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An Empty Tome - Castlevania: Harmony of Despair OST Extended

Game: Castlevania: Harmony of Despair
Release Date: August 4, 2010
Developers: Konami
Publishers: Konami
Composers: Yasuhiro Ichihashi, Tomoaki Hirono

Where to buy the game: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/castlevania-harmony-of-despair/bzs1294v9fq3

Where to buy the soundtrack: https://www.amazon.com/Akumajo-Dracula-ORIGINAL-SOUNDTRACK-...

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limpid totem
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did they just leave the server CursedSkullVS

gusty raven
gusty raven
wise crown
wise crown
gusty raven
wise crown
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It's like Wikipedia, but only about Vampire Survivors

gusty raven
gusty raven
wise crown
wise crown
wise crown
gusty raven
wise crown
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The answer is already in your message lol

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It's basically Wikipedia's slogan, kinda

gusty raven
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Wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia, created and edited by volunteers around the world and hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation.

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thats the real slogan

wise crown
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More like a description of Wikipedia but sure

gusty raven
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i always like finding out about peoples usernames origins

wise crown
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Hepi because of the Hepi face from Pixel Gun 3D, a meme face I made
ChestCow because my pfp is a chest cow
I kept my avatar as that because I wanted to have the most cursed pfp ever lol

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I do also go by JustLeafy, which was chosen after renaming myself from LeafGaming (which I chose because gamer moment) because there was a clan in Pixel Gun World that had the "Just" prefix

gusty raven
wise crown
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I go by either name, I use both interchangeably lol

limpid totem
gusty raven
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thats like my favorite question to ask people, its a really good convo started fr

wise crown
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well, the vandal is back at it again

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immediately blocked and reverted

cold creek
hasty mortar
wise crown
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some people just have nothing better to do

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there are a million things you can do on the internet, yet they chose to specifically vandalize an official wiki about a popular bullet heaven game that thousands, if not hundreds of people use per day

hasty mortar
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exactly

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tbh, its better lock all edits, set to edits in wiki only be approved by moderators

hexed oasis
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nah, a wiki is all about open editing from the community

wise crown
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^^^
it defeats the purpose of what a wiki is: a collaborative site where anybody can edit

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don't worry, this is probably the only major time we have dealt with vandalism on this wiki so far

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I'm sure that other larger and more established wikis, such as the ones for runescape and minecraft, deal with far worse on a more regular basis (but there are also more editors that deal with reverting the vandalism too)

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vandalism is uncommon, but it can still happen on any wiki unfortunately. it's a global issue in the world of wikis, no matter how good or bad a wiki is

lost dome
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Looks like I missed some :CharChaosVS:.

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Ah well, all sorted out now.

wise crown
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Yeah, don't worry, it's all under control now

tribal jetty
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uhhhh

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kinda related but looks like the balatro wiki is also getting vandalized

hexed oasis
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@wise crown @heavy scroll ^^ balatro wiki getting hit

heavy scroll
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thanks

wise crown
hexed oasis
wise crown
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Wtf

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I think they also hit Pixel Gun 3D Wiki too

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But I didn't check yet

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Just woke up

limpid totem
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this seems targeted

cold creek
hexed oasis
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yea potentially at wg, no idea why

limpid totem
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they might even be in this server too

wise crown
hexed oasis
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but as far as i can tell, minecraft and none of the rs wiki's got hit

wise crown
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The one on Fandom

limpid totem
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oh
theyre killing fandom too???

wise crown
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Yeah

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I mean

cold creek
wise crown
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The troll attacking us originally had vulgar names insulting a group of members on Fandom called SOAP (they can revert vandalism more easily)

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So it seems like they were attacking some active wikis on Fandom before we got hit

limpid totem
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either way this looks like planned attacks

wise crown
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Yeah

wise crown
hexed oasis
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yup

wise crown
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And they impersonated me on WFW 3 times 🤣

lost dome
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I'm not entirely sure why Juste Belmont is the character used to represent OTC.

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Tsunanori Mido, Bill Rizer, Crewmate Dino and Miang Moonspell are all the first characters you get in their respective DLCs.

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Luminaire Foscari's not the first character for Foscari, but she's probably really important to that DLC's story IIRC.

thorn prism
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probably meant to be leon but the colours were similar so someone mixed them up

hexed oasis
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i don't really remember the reason, but it was set before the wiki was public, so it was probably something we talked about a while ago

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possibly had something to do with leon being turned away? his sprite shows his back rather than front

hexed oasis
waxen flintBOT
tropic zephyr
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it does

hexed oasis
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is there a name for it/do we have a page on it?

tropic zephyr
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someone would have to dig through the files for it

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it's not a song in the ost

limpid totem
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i think its one of the code screens from one of the games

hexed oasis
tropic zephyr
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yes

limpid totem
hexed oasis
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@regal flame if you can find that music track in the game files, it'd be worth uploading to the wiki

regal flame
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wanton plinth
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is the running merchant sprite not on the wiki?

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cant find it

hexed oasis
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nah we probably don't

hexed oasis
waxen flintBOT
wanton plinth
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nice

wise crown
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Why does it look kinda funny by itself

lunar talon
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Can anyone test out the discord link on the Wiki
it's working for us but someone on twitter is saying it's not working for them (same with the reddit link) thinking

wise crown
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Sure

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It should be fine though

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@lunar talon working fine for me

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so it must be on their end with slow internet or something

lunar talon
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hmm maybe!

gusty raven
wise crown
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same

wise crown
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@hexed oasis gonna make the character select grids in [[Characters]] have 2 columns for devices with <720px width

waxen flintBOT
wise crown
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To fix this issue

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hexed oasis
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how's it laid out in-game on mobile portrait? maybe just make them resize if it's 4 wide in-game

wise crown
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holup

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lemme check portrait mode for vs

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and see if it is still 4 columns

tropic zephyr
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It is

wise crown
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interesting

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yeah u'r right

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just wanted to check for myself just to make sure 😅

hexed oasis
wise crown
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dang it

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forgot about that little rascal

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cut off its top

hexed oasis
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image is what it should look like

wise crown
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ah ok nvm

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yeah should be good

hexed oasis
wise crown
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@hexed oasis now working!

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looks like it might need a bit of right margin, but nice

tropic zephyr
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not using courier font is cursed

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i get thats not what the wiki uses usually but it's still cursed

wise crown
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It is used as the accent font but I get what you mean

tropic zephyr
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yeah

wise crown
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Too much of it would be unbearable to read

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hexed oasis
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yea it's just not as easily legible

tropic zephyr
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ye

wise crown
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this change is now public! /j

tropic zephyr
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vs uses bolded courier >:)

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(yes i know that would fuck with things. someone invent double bold kthx)

wise crown
hexed oasis
wise crown
wise crown
limpid totem
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this should just be an option lol

wise crown
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at least u could tell what was bold before

tropic zephyr
wise crown
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but if y'all want it for yourselves right now, all you have to do is go to [[Special:MyPage/common.css]] and add this code:

* {
  font-family: courier;
}```
or for the bolded version
```css
* {
  font-family: 'Courier New',Courier,monospace;
  font-weight: 600;
}```
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wise crown
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also, got this cursed css:

* {
  cursor: url(https://vampire.survivors.wiki/images/thumb/Sprite-Garlic.png/32px-Sprite-Garlic.png), auto;
}

basically, turns your cursor into garlicVS

zealous venture
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see but the problem w/ garlic is that it doesn't accurately portray what part of the mouse is for clicking

wise crown
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Yeah

zealous venture
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something like confodere on the other hand

wise crown
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Custom cursors are generally pretty inconvenient

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But I did it as a joke ofc

wise crown
hexed oasis
zealous venture
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I think every sprite does

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I'd give a screenshot but my computer doesn't show cursors in screenshots

tropic zephyr
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yay

wise crown
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A flipped clock lancet could be a good cursor

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Potentially

zealous venture
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garlic rotated so the tip is towards the top left, and whenever you hover over a hyperlink it turns into soul eater instead of the finger

hexed oasis
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you could definitely do that

wise crown
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You could probably use Poe Ratcho as a cursor and make it so that his stick would be headed towards the top left corner

zealous venture
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he turns retired when hovering over a link

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wait hang on just got a stupid idea

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the sword is pointed to the top left

wise crown
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Give it a try I guess lol

zealous venture
wise crown
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New stage idea

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The wiki

zealous venture
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it's a bad idea cause the cursor will constantly shift, BUT

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I think you can use anims for the cursor

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nvm you can't =[

hexed oasis
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you can have animated cursors, but you have to do the animation with js/css, can't just use a gif

wise crown
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@hexed oasis what do you think we should do for the collection table on mobile?

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I know the tables are supposed to match the collection in-game, but there's also the issue of the item name, unless if we make the icons really small and the names have a really small font size, or make them 4 columns on mobile

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Also, do you think we should make it so that a table cell can have two different background colors: blackish with a red tint and blackish, so that we can denote which items are sealable and which ones aren't?

wise crown
# wise crown Also, do you think we should make it so that a table cell can have two different...

Of course, there's a general rule where weapons, passives, and evos (including character evos), are sealable. Furthermore, all arcanas and darkanas are unsealable. But, among relics, most are unsealable except for roast chicken with a clock in a middle. Counterpart weapons also cannot be sealed, and neither can the rings and metaglios be sealed either. Also, the "essential" pickups like coins, xp gems, and chests cannot be sealed, but non-essential ones like rosary and floor chicken can be sealed

This is based on what I have in my collection: everything from base game and ED. Don't have the other DLCs, so can't really check what's sealable or not first hand

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We could probably even include this as an infobox row for multiple infoboxes

hexed oasis
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wise crown
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totally forgot about that option

wise crown
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that sounds awesome

hexed oasis
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imo, horizontal scroll is never the best solution, it's kind of clunky

wise crown
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yeah, I agree, but I guess it's the best we got here

hexed oasis
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nah, we could make it display flex at smaller width instead of table, and flex wrap the cells

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wouldn't match the in-game columns, but i think that's better than horizontal scroll... definitely a preference thing tho

wise crown
hexed oasis
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yea the names will be a problem at that width

wise crown
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not that we could conveniently cram 8 columns in mobile, but I'd say give yourself an attempt to do what you wanna do

hexed oasis
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@wise crown in general i'd recommend against making mainspace redirects into category ns - category ns shouldn't really be user-facing as the page a reader lands on

wise crown
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Yeah I do agree, but felt like this was more of an exceptional case

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Since we're not gonna really have a main ns page about the game's sprites

hexed oasis
wise crown
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That's pretty cool that the rs wiki has their own help pages

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I remember back in the mid-2010s Wikia days, the contents of the Help pages are just displayed from what was available in Wikia's Community Central

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And those pages were usually abandoned

hexed oasis
wise crown
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It's easier to ask what they don't have at this point

hexed oasis
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main downside of the horizontal scroll is that you can't have table-layout: fixed, so the columns are varying widths rather than all being the same width for each column - so the spacing can look slightly awkward, but at those smaller page widths it's not as noticeable as it is on larger page widths without fixed layout... the spacing looks real awkward on large widths without fixed

hexed oasis
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if anyone can figure out what the 1000th article created was, it'd be a neat thing to list in the history section [[Vampire Survivors Wiki:About]]

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tropic zephyr
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o uhhh

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would it be possible to remove the vandal names from the active users list

hexed oasis
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unfortunately i don't think so... weird gloop can nuke the accounts entirely, but usually what's done is just admins hiding the names in recentchanges log

tropic zephyr
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f

hexed oasis
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they'll not be listed on active users anyway after 30 days

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we could add some js specifically to hide the entires with (blocked) next to them, but it's probably not a big enough issue to really matter

tropic zephyr
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yeah

lost dome
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Funnily enough the OTC succubus character has the movement animation from the base game's succubus enemy in its gallery. Couldn't seem to find any animations for the OTC character, though.

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It's like the Succubus is in Holy Forbidden.

hexed oasis
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fixed

lost dome
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Ah, seems like it must have just been a naming error, then.

wise crown
waxen flintBOT
tropic zephyr
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Well that makes sense

hexed oasis
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if anyone wants to make pages for the beta stuff, you can stick [[Template:Beta]] on it, otherwise probably gonna wait for release to make pages

waxen flintBOT
wise crown
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good work as always king 👍

wise crown
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Gonna expand through some relic pages and make them more detailed

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like in [[Grim Grimoire]] before

waxen flintBOT
wise crown
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like describing the interface and maybe how some mechanics from these relics work

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love how this is in [[Special:SearchDigest]] lmao

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wise crown
waxen flintBOT
wanton plinth
runic valve
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balarkanas when?

wise crown
tropic zephyr
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whats even the point of editing if these are going to be your notes

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wise crown
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Damn, haven't checked rc yet

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@regal flame any way to retrieve the character sprites of the evolved forms of Mortaccio, Yatta Cavallo, and O'Sole Meeo?

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i.e. Anima of Mortaccio, Yatta Daikarin, and Profusione D'Amore

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we have the evo sprite and icon for each of them but not the character sprites of the evos themselves

wise crown