Ode to Castlevania

[next relic]

How to unlock Charlotte and jonathan?

anyone knows?

[static cypress]

for charlotee Find 7 Mirrors of Truth after opening the Capra Gate.
for jonathan evolve the hand grenade

[next relic]

I meant the combined characters

charlotte and Jonathan

[fathom orchid]

||use the spells (depends on the version), or unlock stella/loretta (and their duos)||

Spells are the intended way

[next relic]

how to unlock stella and Loretta

[left quest]

245, 247, 268, 283

Weirdly it's 4 but I have 282/287

So I have one more somewhere
Ok so I checked and I am also lacking 67 but that's the fox boss in whiteout

[static cypress]

oh you need to defeat stella and loretta using the evolve reflecto

this evolve weapon of reflecto

the sanctuary

[fathom orchid]

||kill them with sanctuary (evolved refectio), theyre boss 27 in the pinned map||

[next relic]

Ok thanks

So I need Mina single weapon?

[fathom orchid]

Any character technically works

Charlotte is good for her charge

[next relic]

Do I just need to own Sanc or Sanc need to be the final hit?

[fathom orchid]

The instakill from sanctuary has to be the last hit

[left quest]

Can Ghost Lino use the sanctuary?

They can't deal damage but it has an insta kill so...?

[fathom orchid]

I think so

[next relic]

||Thanks, so yea single mina is much easier just run away to not hit them the main attack with just one ability takes out multiple 70's out of their HP I thought they'd die before the instant kill activate.||

[bleak meadow]

what is the red ring around confedore? whatever its called

shanoas sword

[fathom orchid]

The range, i.e anything inside the ring will be attacked

[bleak meadow]

yeah your right. why is there a ring sometimes though and why does it explode when you attack?

it only happens after not attacking for a while

[bleak meadow]

not just dissapear, whichd make sense if it was just letting you know its ready. but literally explodes

it doesnt do any bonus damage as far as i can tell

[fathom orchid]

The ring only appears when nothing is in range and explodes (visually) when something can be attacked

[bleak meadow]

oh so its a red herring?

shame. i was hoping itd do more damage or something

[fathom orchid]

Ye

[bleak meadow]

[next relic]

how many bosses do I need to clear with sanctuary to unlock the character?
I thought I'm done but there's another one|| (soliel)||

[fathom orchid]

||2/3, soleil and stella/loretta||

[next relic]

ok Final one then Thanks.

[zinc zealot]

Did a run with Santa. Hidden weapons galore when you throw in Alucard’s shield.

[final cape]

just feels like a support weapon

[left quest]

I was trying to get the sniper and the axe armor when my Switch crashed because I was apparently too powerful because I had decided to take too many weapons for it apparently. I guess all the shields, the paranormal scan, the impostongue, almost everything that evolves with pummarola except the garlic, and the Cerberus heads, and the rapidus fio is too much

I got tempted because of Maxim's passive ability of over healing = speed and invulnerability = power

[tribal wren]

I mean, when I went for it I just did a good old single-weapon build. The sheer amount of Stellar Blades flying meant practically nothing could touch me anyways

[trail tusk]

garlic 😔

[left quest]

I should check to see if I have enough seals to seal all of collection 1.0 except the garlic

[fathom orchid]

if you seal every base weapon except garlic it takes 30

not including any passives you wanna seal or pickups

[static cypress]

how do I get olrox?

[fathom orchid]

||kill him with dark rift||

[static cypress]

where do I find olrox BTW?

[fathom orchid]

Check the pinned map

[left quest]

How many Axe Armors should I kill to unlock the axe armor?

[fathom orchid]

not too many,, since you only need a few thousand

[left quest]

Where are the sniper angels?

[fathom orchid]

pinned map

[left quest]

Ah yes I found them they are in the sky... So we have to be fast to walk through walls

[fathom orchid]

you dont have to walk through walls

they still spawn while on the bridge

just more spawn while oob

[unkempt jay]

BTW pins can't be viewed on mobile

for some reason

only thread pins

[fathom orchid]

You can

The same way

Channel name at top -> settings

[unkempt jay]

WHY IS IT HIDDEN

in normal channels that's... not how I check 😭

this is what i mean btw

[fathom orchid]

blame discord

[unkempt jay]

Hidden 108 Bocci

[formal rose]

I also discovered this like last week, how when in a thread you have to look at settings. Cause everyone's like check the pins in this thread and I was like there's no pins option lol

[unborn veldt]

I'm a bit surprised that Reinhardt doesn't get Morning Star as a starting option, once unlocked.
He is still a user of the Vampire Killer. So it feels like he should be eligible.

[unborn veldt]

I do really like how Reinhardt's sprite depicts him with a sword instead of a whip.
Sure, the whip is his main weapon. But with all those whip users being added at once, it's nice to have a bit more visual variety here.
Plus, the fact that he can actually use his sidearm is something I always liked about Reinhardt.
Considering how often Belmonts are depicted with a blade, but it's never part of their arsenal in the actual games.

[small leaf]

So has the Switch version fixed the death not appearing in the list of killed stuff?

I think 283

[unborn veldt]

The Switch patch did a lot of things. Added all those characters that couldn't get unlocked before. Allowed missing enemies like Cave Trolls to spawn. Added the new merchant. Added all the weapons he was supposed to sell. Added the missing boss spawns. Added attacks to the bosses that actually existed... etc, etc...
Felt almost like I bought an entirely new DLC, with just how much new stuff was suddenly there. I'm like 99% sure there is even a ton of stage detail added that wasn't there before.
But I haven't noticed any fixes to the Bestiary beyond the fact that the Killer Doll entry got fixed.
But all the missing entries do seem to remain completely absent.

[small leaf]

i know my friend hates the latest patch. He was trying to unlock Dario with Charlotte

and the game crashes when he tries to play as her now after the first attempt failed

[unborn veldt]

Well, on my end playing with Charlotte and unlocking Dario works just fine.

[small leaf]

I remember egttign lucky on PC, dominus union kill boss died then the game hanged

character was unlocked even though I didn't get to quit normally

[unborn veldt]

The nice thing about the Dario unlock is that it doesn't require you to actually do anything.
Just pick Charlotte, select Il Molise and wait. Maybe activate Hurry Mode to speed things up.

[small leaf]

He literally can't as it crashes when the stage is about to load

other characters work

[unborn veldt]

Though I suppose if the unlock doesn't require you to actually do anything, one might as well input the password.
Passwords were also something that got mostly fixed by the patch.
Before I don't think any of the Castlevania ones worked on Switch, frankly. Even those for characters that turned out to be perfectly accessible and functional.
I did try some out yesterday on my 2nd savefile and they all worked just fine. Without even having collected any of the relics to display the additional sets of characters.
...well, with some hickups.
Using the code to unlock "Jonathan & Charlotte" only resulted in solo Jonathan getting unlocked.
And the code to unlock "Charlotte & Jonathan" didn't work at all.
Jonathan got it rough right now. Considering his sprites also aren't properly implemented yet.
The code to unlock Charlotte also failed.
And I mean, I did input a lot of those codes. Unlocked all those N64 characters. Axe Armor. Several characters I hadn't even unlocked yet on my main file. Some characters simply because their code was easy, so I figured I might as well.
So it's not like I soloed out codes related to those two. They just seem to be a magnet for issues currently.

But it is strange that in your case it repeatedly crashes while on my end it unlocking Dario worked perfectly fine.
I mean, console ports should be a lot more consistent between different players than with PC considering we are all using the same hardware.
I suppose different installed DLCs might maybe cause this. Or even specifics in the state of the save file.

[fathom orchid]

No

Thats only fixed on steam rn

[unborn veldt]

I'd imagine the Switch patch was mostly just getting that port on par with the initial PC release.
Since Nintendo's approval process famously takes some time.
So the fact that the Switch version was released on the same day as the other versions probably means that the Switch build was simply outdated by a week or two.

[pale leaf]

Hello I had a question about evolving alucards weapon to be the shield. Can you get it done in coop with both players weapons or can it be done only with alucard? I was trying last night and just couldn't seem to get it to evolve

[unborn veldt]

Another thing I tested out with my 2nd save file was to delete the doors in the castle with World Eater.
Random fact, Genevive's world eater will destroy the door, but Je-Ne-Viv's version does not.
Despite Je-Ne-Viv's otherwise being a stronger version that will delete any and all level geometry.

[sturdy wave]

Omfg thank you. I did my, I dunno, 8th attempt at picking him up this morning, and I finally did a run that I thought was perfect, and still didn't get him. But I just did Charlotte on Il Molino and now he's in the roster.

[unborn veldt]

I do not know who decided to depict Carrie menacingly floating with blood-red magic at the ready in the announcement trailer, but I do appreciate it.
What might have stuck with me most about the 64 games is just how terrifying that little girl is.

[potent zenith]

I mean, she's got a lot of magnet. You can run blood astronomia on her if you wanted.

[surreal scroll]

I feel guilty

Heh,nice reference

[robust rain]

Sanity check: is Nitesco supposed to still be doing Globus things?

I just had a run where I evolved it and the bouncing orbs stopped firing at all.

[next relic]

hi

how to unlock megalo death?

[torpid matrix]

kill 100k with normal death in one run

[next relic]

oh ok, yea wiki said 50k didn't work thanks

[next totem]

On the OtC map

[unborn veldt]

That werewolf entry fits surprisingly well with Cornell's background.

[ruby sinew]

Does anyone know why I can't buy all the weapons? I haven't bought them and they are missing in the collection.

[next totem]

If your weapon slots are full, you can't buy more from the merchant

[ruby sinew]

ahh thx

[stiff matrix]

Hand Granade evolved yet Jonathan is still not playable ~ Nintendo

[rocky sequoia]

||if you cant unlock the regular way, type jonathancharlotte in secret menu||

[rocky sequoia]

my bad, erase that, was looking at wrong hero :>

[twin wren]

I think it should only continue doing Globus things if you have Gemini. without that, it should have no bouncing orbs in my experience.

[twin kayak]

Is it still ||summon spirit tornado|| in versions other that the switch one?

[fathom orchid]

as in the weapon name? yes

[twin kayak]

In the switch version, it is called ||red crystal|| and the icon is a ||red crystal|| as a reference to ||that one infamous puzzle in castlevania 2 simon's quest||.

[unborn veldt]

Oh, that's cool.

[potent zenith]

Still weird Simon gets naked lady tornados

[unborn veldt]

I wonder if those duo characters could become a general mechanic.
So you could do some dumb stuff like having Galamoth and Rondo Maria team up.

[next totem]

This is called co-op mode actually

[unborn veldt]

I thought co-op was multiplayer.

Yeah, it says "reassign controllers". Definitely for multiple players.
Plus, if it actually was a core feature, there would be no need for Jonathan & Charlotte and Charlotte & Jonathan to have their own slots.

[next totem]

I mean yeah but you can still play multiple characters at once if you want, you don't have to wait for them to be added as a new character

[unborn veldt]

I suppose since I am on the Switch, that might actually work.
Sounds wild, but seeing how the core gameplay is only a matter of using the joystick, it might be possible to use two joycons at once.

But it would make it difficult to still use it as a handheld, I think.
At least I don't think the joycons can be used as individual controllers while keeping them directly connected to the console.

[surreal scroll]

Today I discovered ||🍷 requires to evolve||
Which now I think about it the logic does sound yet it flew from my head.
||And now Dracula would be mad at me with "You barbaric woman! Do you not have dessert to go with your wine?!"||

[potent zenith]

Is the Master Librarian supposed to appear in the Eudaimonia Machine?

[fathom orchid]

no

it's fixed in newer versions

[potent zenith]

Ah, the joys of the switch...

[unborn veldt]

He wants to make sure to be there when it starts raining coins.

[white gust]

There's also the whole "resurrecting each century, give or take a decade" business, which is also why he gets a revive every 100 levels.

[static cypress]

dracula's evolved weapon is kinda weird
it summons food and Im having that feeling im eating a cheese cake or any dairy product foods

[patent pumice]

It seems like some enemies don't have beastiary entries

[fathom orchid]

correct

[patent pumice]

I wonder if they'll add these missing entries

[abstract trail]

you know it's dire when bracelet is the best-performing weapon

also, uh, i didn't get dario from this-

[fathom orchid]

this is why

[abstract trail]

arma dio counts???

[fathom orchid]

yep, no selectors allowed

also these

[abstract trail]

man so it's just a middle finger to a hail to the future build

the candyboxes i made sure to skip from the chest

feels like an oversight to nuke it even if you skip candyboxes and such. i'm using the code

[fathom orchid]

yeah it is a bit silly

[abstract trail]

Does Area on the Moon Rod do the same thing that it does for the Bibles, where it makes the projectiles bigger but they spread out further from you?

[fathom orchid]

yep

[twin kayak]

you could also just stand still in il molise for 7.5 minutes with arca

[static cypress]

funfact: did you know that if you use whip weapons on charlotte aulin she can do a melee attack animation just like richter and soma

[unborn veldt]

I do wonder if Shanoa's glyph absorb animation is used anywhere.
Maybe it was meant for her charge ability.
Or maybe just for actual glyph unions specifically. Which I think would limit it to Universitas and Power of Sire.

[fathom orchid]

its used when you have universitas

[unborn veldt]

That makes sense. That is game accurate.
Maybe Power of Sire will also instantly kill her.

[fathom orchid]

i mean, she's not immune to health drain

so it does kill her

[unborn veldt]

Yeah, but in her game it would kill her no matter what.

In this game, those glyphes are certainly a lot less lethal to the user.
Heck, it took me a while to even notice you take damage.

[fathom orchid]

if they were more lethal, they would be horrible

theres a reason people dont like

when it isn't killing you, it's great
but when you dont have the luck/chickens, hahaha

[unborn veldt]

To be fair, they were horrible in Ecclesia too.
Especially since no matter how high your HP got, they would always take 1/6 of your HP.
Well, Dominus Agony has some use. Especially combined with some Death Ring cheese. And it only takes 66 HP per second, so it doesn't actually scale.

Ironically enough in this game Dominus Agony has easily the most dangerous HP drain of the 3.

[fathom orchid]

actually it's the opposite

agony only drains 1hp/s, while anger and hatred drain 1hp every time they activate

[trail tusk]

agony with fleman

[wide slate]

could someone tell me how to activate the telporter on my ping? thanks.

[fathom orchid]

You have to kill one of the bosses up ahead

[crimson kraken]

Help, how best to die?

[unborn veldt]

At this rate, the system will have to crash eventually.

[next totem]

You can just quit out via the pause menu, you'll keep all gold and unlocks

[crimson kraken]

Thanks. Picking up the Parm Aegis and maxing broke the build

[proper trellis]

||are the dario unlock requirements on the wiki accurate? I'm trying for a second time with only fire weapons, this time hoping htat if I don't even touch weapons dropped by bosses that will help.||

[next totem]

Yes, you can just afk in Il Molise though to guarantee the unlock

[floral jungle]

Hello everyone, im playing vampire survivor on switch, yesterday i tried to unlock richter, i played with maria on mad forest an evolve her weapon to that like turtle shield with wings and even i reach to minute 31, however i didnt obtain any Achievements nor richter or the weapon itself for everyone. Its a kind of bug or is because i have to do it on the dracula castle? or maybe its because i used the alucard shield or something

someone had the same issue?

[fathom orchid]

Alucard shield caused the issue

[floral jungle]

😮

[fathom orchid]

Its fixed in a future version (which switch doesn’t have), so just redo it without the shield and you’ll be fine

[floral jungle]

thanks, i will avoid to use it i my next run

thanks

[abstract trail]

both charlotte and jonathan can get paranormal scan if one of them gets it through the super candybox
let's goooooo

[royal temple]

Is there an Updated picture floating around with the completed Grimore including the Castlevania DLC?

[fathom orchid]

The pins of this channel have the castlevania part of the grimoire. (If you’re on mobile, tap the channel name at the top then tap settings.) if you want every evolution, the pins in #💀survivors-spoilers have a full list

[unborn veldt]

Every time Carrie enters the castle, Death just so happens to decide it's saver to keep his head low.
Granted, this only happened twice. But it's still a bit too much of a coincidence. I have to imagine that Death knows that Carrie would bust his skull open with his own humerus bone.

[floral jungle]

if we played with dracula and choose any whip as a weapon... that means he is gabriel belmont?

[unborn veldt]

Would be funny if he were to take damage from using whips the same way everyone else takes damage from using Dominus.

[twin kayak]

Would it be funny if he instantly died upon taking garlic.

[tribal wren]

Imagine if Santa Water/La Borra zones hurt him too

[unborn veldt]

Garlic probably won't hurt him. Vincent is depicted as this Van Hellsing-style vampire hunter, carrying garlic and crucifixes around. And he is portrayed as being well out of his depth.
Although his holy water did work on Malus. So Vincent got to save the day after all. Go Vincent!
Shame that Vincent isn't playable. I feel like the classical vampire hunter would have been a fun archetype to have on the rooster.

[light hound]

Vincent Dorin? I agree, it is such a shame. I guess you'll have to pay more attention to the complete dlc roster if you wanna find a suitable replacement.

[twin wren]

I think they're talking about Charles Vincent, from the N64 games. not Vincent Dorin

[light hound]

Oooooh

Woops

[spring warren]

Do you guys have weapon recommendations for killing 100k with Death in 30 min?

[fathom orchid]

#💀survivors-spoilers message

This build/spot makes it incredibly easy

[spring warren]

I see, thx.

[surreal scroll]

||If Cornell's Tri Custo gets absorbed by Alucard's Shield, he can just...relearn them. Even with all weapon slot full...||
What?

[tribal wren]

||His passive is just like that||

||Not sure if he can evolve them again, though. I want to say 'no', but I haven't tested it yet||

[surreal scroll]

||I'll bet yes||
||There is a reason why they aren't in ||

[fathom orchid]

you cant

they dont level

[merry charm]

finallllyyy

[fathom orchid]

nice

[tiny flame]

Victory

[tribal wren]

I ended up figuring that out myself, but my run with him was pretty fun. Alucard Shield absorbed Trinum Custodem, Power of Sire, Moon Rod, Vol Umbra and Vol Luminatio (the game insisted on giving me Universitas before the Alucard Shield lmao)

I then got the three Custos glyphs which immediately started limit breaking, and then I added the Rune Sword and the Tower Shield on top of that

All in all, can't complain. It was pretty nuts

[unkempt jay]

IIIIIIIVVVIVIIVIIIIXXXIXIIXIIIXIVXVXVIXVIIXVIIIXIXXXXXI

[royal temple]

Danke

[twin wren]

when Alucard Shield requires 6 evos, does that include 1 of them being Alucard Swords?

[torpid matrix]

yes

[twin wren]

thx

[tribal wren]

Will it also accept extras? (ones gained through Candyboxes or map weapons)

[fathom orchid]

yeah

[tribal wren]

That's pretty neat

[trail tusk]

I ❤️ CHEATING‼️

[lucid wren]

Apologies bc im sure this has been asked a million times but wheres a good starting point for getting into the castlevania series? I want to understand the injokes lmao

(thats a joke ive always been interested in the series but the dlc is pushing me to actually start playing woops)

[static cypress]

here's a secret attack animation about alucard
the first one is a range attack (I don't know what weapon will do this attack) and also the second one is a magice attack ( I don't either know what weapon can make this attack animation move lol)

[fathom orchid]

the first one plays for luminatio / umbra

and tyrfing/rune sword

[static cypress]

what weapon can make alucard do this magic attack the second attack animation tho?

[fathom orchid]

thats what im testing

[fathom orchid]

and curved/bwaka knife, wine glass/ meal ticket

(will keep updating)

[static cypress]

and also charlotte can do melee attacks using whips

[fathom orchid]

sword brothers triggers the second one

and summon spirit tornado

[static cypress]

[fathom orchid]

oh yeah none of the "floppy" whips trigger his melee

[static cypress]

I really like that the devs added this floppy weapons I really want more like this weapons

[trail tusk]

hate that "floppy weapons" is a term now

[ebon gazelle]

Aren't those variations of the attack animation Alucard uses for Hellfire/Dark Inferno in SotN? So maybe Dominus Anger or Hellfire will trigger it

[fathom orchid]

neither trigger

[static cypress]

so jonathan have a whip attack animation and I tried and it didn't do the animation?

and also he have a range attack animation despite having a range weapon?

[fathom orchid]

i think jonathan is just bugged

like his idle isnt used either

[static cypress]

maybe they will fix it soon

[ebon gazelle]

Neither trigger? Man that's weird. I'd almost file that as a bug but there's really no way to know for sure.

[static cypress]

also shanoa have a special animation if your using the weapon called Universitas

this is universitas

[patent pumice]

Huh, didn't know that! Nice

[unkempt jay]

I mean there's no reason not to

If it's not a bug they'll just say "no that's not a bug"

[abstract trail]

what is it i'm missing here? i got all the secrets and unlocks that are listed...

[next totem]

Gemini Globus

[woeful plume]

what weapons count as glyphs

[abstract trail]

The ones from Ecclesia proper are:

• The Dominus set
• The Cerberus/Custos set (wolf heads)
• Sonic Dash & Rapidus Fio
• Confedere and its Evolutions
• Globus and Nitesco
• Optical Shot and Acerbatus
• Luminatio, Umbra, and their evolutions (+ gift)

And the Ebony Diabologue can also give Summon Spirit, Dark Rift, Soul Steal, and Sword Brothers. However, those last few aren't Glyphs in Ecclesia proper (three of 'em are SotN spells), so depending on the unlock, they might not count. Worth a shot though, you can get 'em from the Librarian.

[torpid matrix]

librarian weapons dont count, since they cant evolve and the unlocks requires you to evolve weapons

[unborn veldt]

Also those 4 weapons (along with the librarian) weren't available on the Switch version on release, and I still managed to meet the requirement for the evolving all the weapons of the Ebony Diabologue" unlock.

[proven heath]

To those of you who can fleaman without golden eggs, I salute you.

[twin wren]

the two merchants positioned exactly so that it looks like master librarian has a santa hat 🎅

[next totem]

Lmao amazing

[trail tusk]

santa sells you a thermonuclear bomb

[unkempt jay]

Ladonna

[woeful plume]

does the hydrostormer rain work with jail of crystal? Tried it but it doesn't seem to work

[fathom orchid]

Jail of crystal doesn’t affect hydrostorm

For the dragon water whip/ the evo, yeah i think its bugged

[unborn veldt]

Pfff, the bestiary entry for Doppelgänger is funny if it selects Jonathan.
He doesn't walk, instead it's just his idle sprite awkwardly tilting from left to right.

[next totem]

Yes, known bug

[unborn veldt]

I guess if the Doppelgänger copies Dracula, this means you can technically fight a vampire.

Sorta.

[twin wren]

||you can fight multiple vampires in OtC as is, after black disc||

[unborn veldt]

It's not a vampire if a purification spell can still undo it.

[twin wren]

there are others

[unborn veldt]

So all those 1.0 version evolved weapons can now be sealed again.
That's neat. Wanted to do that for a while. Especially Heaven's Sword, seeing how far away it moves from being a Cross.
Especially with the Castlevania DLC, I most certainly prefer sticking with the classic sub weapon aesthetic.

[worthy shore]

New switch patch dropped. Where can I find the patch notes?

[fathom orchid]

#❗devlog

[worthy shore]

Thanks

[fathom orchid]

#🍗beta-devlog has some non-fix changes

[upbeat remnant]

Does Death always die at 30 mins? If so, how to get 100k kills? I'm playing on endless and he just dies for no reason and cant be revived

[fathom orchid]

yes, try this #💀survivors-spoilers message

[upbeat remnant]

cheers, I'll try that

[upbeat remnant]

Can confirm it works even with only the scythe 👍

[next relic]

you need builds that increases enemy quantity like Gold Ring, Torrona's Box, Karoma's Mana. Etc.

[fathom orchid]

You dont

You can easily get it done without any curse or charm

[next relic]

or gold fingers.

[next relic]

Wait what's your suggestion, Mob Spawn spot like the entrance for Dracula room?

[fathom orchid]

the room with joachim's coffin spawns a LOT of 1hp enemies

the issue with the throne room (and other spots) is the enemies have a lot more hp

[worthy shore]

You want to increase curse

[fathom orchid]

yeah

curse makes it faster, but you dont NEED it

[worthy shore]

Sorry for the big image. It just popped up when I typed “curse”

[static cypress]

why does dracula's evolved weapon is about some random food
does dracula really like cakes and tarts that much?

[rancid karma]

Second one with fire wand

[fathom orchid]

or hes just eating after having a glass of wine

[rancid karma]

What is the meaning of the soleil description? Doesnt seem to have any stat changes in coop with cristopher

[torpid matrix]

just a joke about cv lore (soleil being controlled by dracula against christopher)

[next relic]

it's a joke about his wine and desert

Because this Dracula don't drink blood.

[nimble coyote]

And Castlevania always has food on the floor and in the walls. Dracula must just be tossing it everywhere.

[twin kayak]

I just got the familiar forge joke and I feel like I was robbed of understanding.

[wanton zinc]

Is it intentional that some bosses don't have bestiary descriptions?

[next totem]

Yes

[wanton zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585

[frail forge]

Guys, after a while death just blows me away, and I don't know what to do

[fathom orchid]

elaborate?

[tribal wren]

If you're talking about the enemy that shows up at the 30:00 mark, congratulations - getting killed by him means you've completed a run.

...if you really want to kill him, though, you'll need a specialized build. Either one that makes you immortal, or one with specialized weapons meant to be the 'real' way you kill him

...wait, are you talking OtC Death? You shouldn't be able to die to him so easily, since the fight is (mostly) scripted

[frail forge]

lol

[tribal wren]

You must be talking about the part after ||The Directer bites it||, since that's the only part you can die die on

[fathom orchid]

yeah there are too many deaths now

lol

[tribal wren]

With that confusion cleared up... how the heck are you dying?

[nimble coyote]

Gotta watch out for the scythe, it's still dangerous. The random sickles are less dangerous but could eat away at you if you don't have recovery or if you have too much curse. Even though your weapons get blasted, your passives remain effective once they're recovered, so you could enter the fight with Pummarola, Armor, and Parm Aegis to make you more durable.

Basically, keep moving, don't stand UNDER the boss, and keep clear of the hands.

[unkempt jay]

They're obviously speaking of white hand

Smh

[surreal scroll]

Does anyone know what is the music used for credits?
I'm hearing 'Wandering of Crystal Blue',but I'm sure there's more than that.

[fathom orchid]

the otc credits use VS sarabande of healing

[placid ember]

Question regarding the biggest spoiler in the DLC.

||Will buying Chaos make it incredibly difficult to buy anything else, or does buying characters instead scale with how many you have?||

[fathom orchid]

the latter

[chrome mist]

How do i get this missing item

?

[twin wren]

those are the other 2 weapon selectors
spectral sword, and coat of arms

[fathom orchid]

Use spectral sword and coat of arms in arun

[chrome mist]

How?

[fathom orchid]

Get them from levelup, or some characters start with them as alt skins

[chrome mist]

Thank you

[upper tangle]

Switch stills need some final touches

There are still some entries untranslated

Mad groove doesn’t work

Idk what else

[next totem]

That's a bug specific to a few characters and is on all platforms

[unborn veldt]

I find that the most troublesome step in unlocking everything is that whole "evolve all the spells" thing.
They all require a fully upgraded passive weapon, which makes it very difficult to figure out which one you actually need.
Normally this kind of thing can be relatively easy found out on Moongolow, but Gale Force and Rock Slide are not on any characters you have access to in the first batch. So you have to do it on the Castlevania map. And that map isn't terribly good for exp gain.
Would maybe have helped if Carrie and Julia were in the first batch. Or have finding the spells be the requirement to unlock them, instead of needing to evolve them.

I can't say I enjoyed the whole unlock process all that much, even ignoring the rough state that the Switch version was released in.
Not only is so much of it trial, error and wild guessing, but testing those out also all require to commit and fully take advantage of a 30 minute run. So often you waste 30 minutes with nothing to show for it because you were on the wrong track.

[nimble coyote]

I miss the required evo items being located on the DLC map in question (Moonspell and Foscari both did this). Arma Dio really did a number on that. Granted, Ode to Castlevania has a LOT of weapon evolutions, so it probably would have ended up being like a Moongolow 2 in that respect.

[unborn veldt]

Unfortunately as much stuff as there is to unlock, the unlock process is still very linear.

[next totem]

I mean not really, you can go about it in a lot of different ways

[unborn veldt]

They literally just posted an official guide today in this discord that highlights how linear the whole thing is.

[fathom orchid]

thats just how the dlcs are designed

[unborn veldt]

I don't know. In the other DLCs the unlock process is very straightforward. Never needed to look up a guide for any of it.
It's only in the Castlevania one where I found myself constantly stonewalled.

[next totem]

There's a lot of branching paths, the other DLC haven't really been like that

[unkempt jay]

The guide isn't really a full guide though

keep in mind ||75% of the unlockable characters are left out||

and in all fairness, the whole game is like this

[trail tusk]

the secrets are fun

(except for brauner)

[tribal wren]

...that's rather odd. If the Iron Ball does retaliatory damage, then shouldn't it proc like does?

[fathom orchid]

it doesnt

the description wasn't correct; it's fixed in the latest steam version

it just scales with armor

[tribal wren]

Ah, just another Switch oddity

Gotcha

[unkempt jay]

I want to switch between the scrolling arcana boosts and the full list

The scrolling list was kinda cute

[static cypress]

mage's from VS and castlevania comparison

[unkempt jay]

Who's 245, 252, and 270?

[static cypress]

I want bug fixe's for the DLC literally jonathan's secret animation won't work even his idle animation

[next relic]

Bone Ark

[unkempt jay]

I found it already ;v;

[ruby ibex]

TRUE

[unkempt jay]

only one I'm missing is ||Death|| refight

[full lagoon]

Is there a way to listen to Sarabande of Healing as a theme during a run? I ran through all of my themes (||already encountered the Richter scene||), but it's not there

[trail violet]

it should unlock at some point but I'm not sure when exactly
i think you have to continue with the unlocks to get it

[fathom orchid]

||try playing as julia?||

[fast knoll]

Are there any other weapons that count as Knives for the purpose of Grant's passive ability besides the Knife and the Curved Knife (and presumably their evolutions)?

[torpid matrix]

none afaik

[rancid karma]

julius passive of gaining might based on missing health is capped or is like divine bloodlines? if it's capped by how much?

[unborn veldt]

Richter is honestly pretty low on the list of characters I would have thought had something special going on in the throne room.
I mean, is he the first Belmont in the series? No, that's Simon.
Is he the first Belmont chronologically? No, that's Leon. (Or maybe Sonia. Haven't played Legends.)
Is he the Belmont who put down Dracula for good? No, that's Julius.
There is nothing special about his turn fighting Dracula.
I was only able to deduce that there might be something for him to do because the unlock progression would eventually lead to Richter being the last character to get unlocked.

[unborn veldt]

I suppose unlocking things is easier now since the required information is more easily available on the internet.
Still, these first few days were very frustrating.

[twin wren]

presumably because his dracula encounter cutscene is a famous meme (voice acting, etc.)

[polar turtle]

Anyone know when or if the soundtrack will be released to Spotify/Apple Music?

[fathom orchid]

It wont

Since its a collab

[polar turtle]

gotcha

[ebon gazelle]

Richter’s stated to be the strongest Belmont in some places isn’t he? Obviously this is wrong since Julius exists but I’m pretty sure that statement’s been made a few times. He’s also been in three games and he’s one of the few who Death tried to go after immediately.

[twin wren]

yeah iirc Richter is stated to be the "strongest" in some places, but also I think those sources may date to before Julius was invented
I think that as the game technology progressed and magic became more and more of a staple in the series, Konami would put out the impression that the Belmonts were getting stronger in each new game

but stepping back, I also think VS likes to draw from SotN most of all the castlevanias. and they like to draw humorous material, hence the famous voice acted scene

[ebon gazelle]

This is a shame because I was hankering for a Moon Fight remix

[white gust]

IIRC, the lore goes that each Belmont who faces Dracula gets stronger with each generation.

And Richter was the penultimate Belmont to face off against Dracula (the strongest being Jules).

[patent pumice]

Peter, the Belmonts are here.

[small leaf]

Is there complete info on pair characters with regards to their unique mechanics?

Like wanna know if A has x passive, can B use it for evo but opposite doesn't seem to be true

[fathom orchid]

passives are shared

[small leaf]

Including effects?

[fathom orchid]

well

[trail tusk]

hello oders

[fathom orchid]

theres a setting to turn on shared passives

(for evos)

effects are usually shared regardless

[small leaf]

How about if they have union capable weapons?

Like birds and guns, can they be separated

[fathom orchid]

i dont think so

[trail tusk]

yeah it wouldn't really work due to both weapons being absorbed for the union

[static cypress]

bruh I really want bug fixe's update for castlevania DLC
because jonathan is not using his attack animation and others

[trail violet]

there was a beta patch yesterday
maybe it fixed it?
if not it might be a bit

[static cypress]

on mobile?
because I play on mobile tho

[trail violet]

apperently there was a testflight beta update for the same version
the update is in beta right now so it might be a while for it to go main

[trail tusk]

i want bug fixes and improvements

[lost rain]

Help me out y'all, this has been driving me crazy and the wiki is no help. Who is this guy??

[fathom orchid]

||Maria Montessori||

||educational method, and she is on the 1000 lire bill||

[lost rain]

thank you!!

[delicate canyon]

What's everyone's favorite weapon in this dlc?

And why

[unborn veldt]

Optical Shot.
Just a nice wide aimable beam with perfect penetration.

[twin wren]

I find unevolved mace very satisyfing for some reason

[trail tusk]

my favorite is alchemy whip

the idea of a weapon that scales with bosses defeated is just so cool

[left quest]

I like Alucard's shield to have more weapons

[twin kayak]

Stamazza, I love the twenty ||thousand damage ||||in one hit || ||pre slash||.

[trail tusk]

btw I belive the damage numbers showing when numbers are off is intended because it's like, "dude you gotta see this"

[trail violet]

yeah it definitely seems intentional

i also wish we could get more unique damage number colors at higher damages

[nimble coyote]

I mean, the damage color numbers are 'standard' (white), 'high' (yellow), and 'critical' (red), pre-Might since they reflect the base values of the weapon. I suppose 'wacky' (violet) would be cool for crazy hits like Stamazza and Troll Bomb, though.

[trail violet]

im kinda saying like just more colors past yellow

[nimble coyote]

It sounded like you were requesting it based on damage amount, though, and I was saying it's more informative to consider it in terms of damage type, especially because Might is so variable.

[lost rain]

wait I know you

[delicate canyon]

I love that one too! Nothing beats swinging a big hunk of metal

[tribal wren]

Being a Pokemon fan, the move Gigaton Hammer comes to mind

[zinc zealot]

The game will lag for me when it crits. Even on a solo weapon run.

[fathom orchid]

If you have screenshake on, that’s why

[zinc zealot]

Will have to check on that.

[surreal scroll]

Sanctuary. ||See a vamp boss? Boom! Vamp no more ~||

[unkempt jay]

Ok this makes 90000% more sense

[twin kayak]

I have done a personal tier list of all Castlevania weapons, mostly based on fun, personal bias and a slight bit of power which influenced my experience at times.

[trail tusk]

ALCHEMY WHIP ‼️

also how's sanctuary in S instead of S+?

[unkempt jay]

you put THAT in THAT tier instead of THAT tier?

[twin kayak]

I'm just not the biggest fan of it

Also universitas is not here because the template did not have it.

[white gust]

At least Sanctuary's a screen clearer that doesn't obscure the screen.

[unborn veldt]

Above all else I'm not sure how much sense it makes to list weapon evolutions independently of their base versions.

[tribal wren]

Sometimes evolving a weapon changes how it works.

For example, Optical Shot has auto-aim when standing still. However, once evolved into Acerbatus it loses that

[unborn veldt]

Sure, but you can't have evolved weapons without their base components first. Besides upgraded gift boxes, I suppose.
So I'd say it's very much a package deal.

[tribal wren]

Honestly, yeah, I can see why you'd say that

But then again, this is all just subjective anyhow

[twin wren]

some evolved weapons are totally different from the unevolved forms. though that's only rarely the case in OtC

but is more common in the other packs

[ebon gazelle]

I think it’s fine to rate base weapons differently from evolved weapons. You just take into account the time you used the base weapon when doing the rating for the evolved weapon.

[surreal scroll]

I agree. As much as I want to be Overpowered,I'll also like to see where I'm going.
Looking at you.Sire and Universitas.

[hardy pasture]

Is there any way to listen to the OST of the DLC on spotify?

[fathom orchid]

No

[hardy pasture]

Oh, thx

[unborn veldt]

Alright, Reinhardt gets Morning Star now! Woho!

[twin wren]

I have the update but I can't see Morning Star for him... can you?

[next relic]

How to evolve a weapon when you are controlling two characters? all the chest is being taken by the second character? (Stella and Loretta)

[unborn veldt]

I don't have it since the update isn't on Switch yet. I simple go by what the patch notes say.

[delicate canyon]

Anyone know how to get the number 287 Death into the bestiary?

[fathom orchid]

it's only fixed on steam iirc

or if your platform is 1.12.108

i forget

[delicate canyon]

understood

[surreal scroll]

Evolving weapons with duo characters is very finicky. It's like sometimes the game doesn't acknowledge you had had the requirements because the passive is on the other character

My advice is just pick more chest until the game takes a hint

Still,even with setting weapons to 1, your partner still has 6 on...

[ebon jolt]

Make a passive that lets soma, dracula, and other soul stealing characters get stats or skills by killing various enemies for their souls, cowards.

(I joke, I love the DLC and think it's amazing, I'm just sad Soma doesn't have the ability get stronger with souls is all.)

Also I'd love a vania adventure but that and a soul passive seems like thing that'd have to be a update or not at all. And maybe the few people missing. I say a few because it might be, like, only 3 people from the spinoffs and the actual dlc was very though

[unborn veldt]

I suppose a more game accurate Soma would ignore all the benefits of the Luck stat and have a 90% chance of not getting anything from a level-up or a chest.

[static cypress]

the character was a boss from castlevania aria of sorrows

[nimble coyote]

Uh... isn't that the mermaid Shanoa fought in Order of Ecclesia? Aria of Sorrow didn't have any underwater bosses and the Dawn of Sorrow underwater boss was more serpentine.

https://tenor.com/view/castlevania-order-of-ecclesia-castlevania-order-of-ecclesia-shanoa-nintendo-ds-gif-22434818

[static cypress]

yes

[static cypress]

oh sorry lol
I though she was from aria of sorrow

😅

[unborn veldt]

I imagine Carrie starting with Rock Slide is a reference to that original teaser where Carrie was seen levitating rocks.
It's a cool reference.
But I do hate having to use it. It's so unwieldy.

[unborn veldt]

I think it would make sense for Carrie to get access to the Coat of Arms.
Carrie did not have her own set of sub weapons, like Maria or Sypha did.
She used the usual assortment of axes, daggers, crosses and holy water.
That little girl has an impressive throwing arm.

[potent zenith]

and makes the rocks really good. Carrie starts with the latter, so you can pick the former.

So she's not completely hosed with the rocks. Just move around a bit once you can multiple circles dropping rocks to cover more area.

[ruby anchor]

So like, is Jonathan missing sprites? Soma and Alucard both are fully animated from what I've seen, but for Jonathan, he doesn't have a stand sprite like they do, but he does on the character select. 🤔 Not sure if it was intentional or not, but thought I'd see about it here

[fathom orchid]

Yeah, known issue

[ruby anchor]

Ahh alrighty. Thanks for confirming 🙏

[next relic]

So reflectio is practically broken if you can upgrade it as early as possible.

[nimble coyote]

I mean, maybe a little? Sanctuary is about the same as any other insta-kill weapon, like a rosary or Pentagram or Ophion. I think Refectio shines more with Gemini, though; I love making Speculo Refectio dance around the screen.

[surreal scroll]

and you are pretty much good to go

[unborn veldt]

I do like that Henry is here. I have a bit of a soft spot for him.
I can't help but appreciate Henry's moxie in entering Dracula's castle with an ordinary revolver.
It's also just a really nice progression for him. As a child, Cornell saved him from the castle. Now a decade later, he returns to the castle in order to save other children.
Idk, it's just neat.

[next relic]

It instant kill bosses Penta and Rosary don't as far as I know.

[white gust]

It also doesn't clutter up the screen like other screen clearers.

[summer vortex]

Hey, I'm trying to get the Familiar/Innocent Devil unlock and the Candybox wouldn't give me a familiar forge? Am I missing something?

[fathom orchid]

would it be your second forge?

when you get a weapon it disappears from candybox, so if you're picking up the forge off of the stage first, you won't be able to get it from candybox

[summer vortex]

OHH gotcha, so Candybox first then map pickup. Thank you.

[fathom orchid]

yep

np

[summer vortex]

I'm trying to do the Hammer unlock, and so I'm wondering; Do I just gotta survive until the 30 minute mark while having six "Coat of Arms" weapons evolved, or does the 30 minute timer only start when I evolve the last of the six weapons I need?

[fathom orchid]

There isnt a survival timer, you just have to ||get 6 EVOLVED DLC WEAPONS that are in coat of arms (first 8 weapons in its list)||

[summer vortex]

Is this incorrect then?

[next totem]

Yes

[summer vortex]

Oh- And they have to be DLC weapons specifically? Because stuff like King Bible and Lightning Ring are technically Coat of Arms weapons

[fathom orchid]

Yep

[summer vortex]

Ah okay, I gotta re-plan my build then

[obtuse glade]

Is there any character (base game or from any DLC) that can get more than 2 Familiar Forges||, besides Young Maria Renard||?

[fathom orchid]

hector can get 16 extra

[atomic sonnet]

Issac.

[fathom orchid]

||dmitri lets you get 2 forges each time you pick one, as well||

[fathom orchid]

doesnt isaac just get followers tho, not the forge

[atomic sonnet]

Uhhh maybe.

[dark walrus]

I am quite late but it randomizes who gets the chest no matter who picks it up so you'll get a chance

[potent zenith]

Watching my sister play through the dlc, and her build for every character with a belnades spell is "6 spells." Yoko's being one hell of a speedbump.

[surreal scroll]

Speaking of Belnades, why does Juste took one look at Summon Tornado Spirit and decides not to level that up despite being in the same set?

[static cypress]

there are so much enemies in this DLC that is not beastiary tho?
especially that vaccum cleaner monster

[white gust]

Methinks the vacuum cleaner monster is a "skin" of Persephone, since that's the ability you get from Persephone's soul in Soma's games.

[unborn veldt]

Barlowe got a lot of HP. Goshdarn.
I wonder what weapon would be best suited to represent the mighty Barlowe Fist.

[trail tusk]

dominus agony

prolly

[unborn veldt]

Dominus Agony is just a status buff.
Big Fuzzy Fist would probably be the closest.
Platinum Whip should have been throwing Barlowes at enemies instead of Richters.

[static cypress]

also who the heck is persephone is she a vampire maid or a human maid
she is more like a reference from touhou scarlet devil mansion like sakuya the only human maid in this monstrous mansion

[next relic]

Tohou came 10 years later than castlevania so the referencing is wrong here.

[unborn veldt]

You know, the Castlevania characters all have their full names listed on the character select. Except Henry.
Shouldn't it be Henry Oldrey instead of just Henry?

[surreal scroll]

She might be a variant of Silky, an Irish Fairy specializes in Housekeeping.
If that doesn't convince you just think of any other monster being to ease your guilt.
Also, props to her naming after Hades's Wife.

Also also, anyone first idea of playing Innocent Devil is having him draw...less innocent things?

[zinc zealot]

She’s the reason we have seasons.

[shell prawn]

Does anyone know what weapons go best with Hammer (the RPG guy)?

[white gust]

Yes, but Sakuya showed up around the early 2000s.

[surreal scroll]

Play with or Iron Shield/Guardian Targe for thier invurnability.

[next relic]

And persephone showed up around 1992 or 93

[unborn veldt]

1.12.08 is out on Switch now.
But unlike what the patch notes say, Reinhardt didn't get the Morning Star.

[static cypress]

And Johnathan idle, attack, and range animation is not yet fixed

[unborn veldt]

Sure, but that wasn't in the patch notes in the first place.

[twin wren]

these issues were also in the 1.12.108 patch on other platforms too

hopefully all platform versions will update in sync again as of next patch

[frozen veldt]

Sammy is more efficient.
Vincent is way more fun.

[twin wren]

Vincent is so fun with

[fathom orchid]

Ode to Castlevania Boss and Notable Enemy Map
SPOILERS

[shell prawn]

Is it just me or does it feel like Cornell's weapons dont do enough damage? I mean they look so cool paired together but it feels like im not killing enemies fast enough?

[white gust]

The Custos union rectifies that, but for the most part Cornell has to get close to enemies while abusing Centralis Custos's buffs.

[shell prawn]

Do you know which Arcana would synergise best with him and the custos union?

[shut yoke]

guys any tips unlocking ||megalo death|| i always die at 30 mins

[torpid matrix]

stack curse like crazy (aka )
you dont need to mind the difficulty cause death is invincible until 30min

also dont use hurry

[shut yoke]

thanks

[fathom orchid]

A very easy way is to get hydrostorm and go to ||joachim’s spawner room, the frozenshades there make it easy||

[unborn veldt]

Also Charm.
Honestly pretty strange that Death doesn't take damage. I mean, even Dracula himself does.

[fathom orchid]

Normal ||death|| does now,
Morphed does not

[unborn veldt]

Oh, that's cool.

[next relic]

Well death shouldn't die but eh. 🤷‍♂️

[trail violet]

its more fun this way though

[atomic sonnet]

The Death cannot die.

[trail violet]

he cannot die to (red) death, but dying to literally anything else goes

death versus death would break the fabric of reality

[trail tusk]

"fuck you red death you fucking copycat im gonna die to a dust elemental"

[unborn veldt]

I wonder if he can actually fight the Ender now.

[trail violet]

he still disappears at the time limit

[unborn veldt]

This is all very weird.

[trail violet]

you can always fight the ender in boss rash

[trail violet]

apparently his invincibility was a bug ????

I legit thought it was an intended feature

[torpid matrix]

HUH??????????

[trail violet]

#1316618150133108817 message

[torpid matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[trail violet]

it was probably being carried over from his evo form where he is intentionally invincible

[static cypress]

I hope they will fix jonathan range and melee animation

[unborn veldt]

Kinda amusing that Jonathan doesn't get the Candybox.
The general logic behind their distribution seems to be that it goes to characters who use a wide array of weapons in their game.
So Nathan and Juste not getting it makes sense since they only ever use whips.
But Jonathan has a very wide arsenal. I guess since he doesn't use magic.
But Shanoa gets it, and she can only use glyphs. And there is already a container for those.

[twin wren]

honestly maybe just everyone should have candybox access at some point. like when you unlock 100% of the game
why not allow maximum run flexibility

[ebon gazelle]

They gave Shanoa the Candybox because attempting to use Confodore makes me want to hurt myself

Nobody else in the DLC has a weapon that's as annoying to use IMO

It's a concession basically

[frozen veldt]

Confodore > Cats.
Very hard to make something worse than a weapon that actively tries to kill you.

Also Confodore is amazing with or

[next relic]

But Upgraded Cats > Upgraded Confodore.

[frozen veldt]

Voracious Hunger would need to be the best weapon in the game to make up for cats.

And Voracious Hunger isn't Paranormal Scan, or Gorgeous Moon, or Photonstorm.

[static cypress]

wait I just realize that this weapon was originaly from maria renards

[ebon gazelle]

Setting aside the fact that Cats aren't a DLC weapon, I'd argue the fact that they're big DPS for a malus that can be partially mitigated by Clover makes them not so bad. In fact, you can probably get away with not evolving them because they're higher DPS at base form

[white gust]

Acknowledged bug! They'll probably fix it after the holiday.

[frozen veldt]

The fact that they have a malus at all means that they have more to make up for.
Also 'the weapon does more damage if you don't evolve it' is not a glowing endorsement. XD

[boreal imp]

globus

it's just a shittier runetracer

[surreal scroll]

Wait, I thought Confodore scales with
Though I suppose you can pair Shanoa with Sonic Dash because...wait, her charge requires her to stand still...

[frozen veldt]

It's Speed, not Move Speed.
I feel like Shot Speed would be clearer as far as stat names go...

[surreal scroll]

Question ,does Shanoa's charge works on special Glyph such as Soul Steal?

[boreal imp]

yes it does even though charging as shanoa takes an eternity

[surreal scroll]

And she was one step away from No Move.

Imagine, Confodere6+Globus+Optical Shot+Soul Steal+Luminato+Umbra

Sadly no moving means 4/6 Weapons aren't doing a good job.

[boreal imp]

confodere also sucked in order of ecclesia because its the first glyph you get

at least its not as bad as the cutler

[ebon gazelle]

Sure, but MAN does it feel a little too lore accurate

At least when I get Gatti Amari running or evolve Globus into Nitesco, it feels satisfying

When I get to Melio Confedere with CitDN and whatever else is supposed to boost its DPS, I'm like "Woah! This is worthless!"

[unborn veldt]

DPS isn't exactly the weapon's problem in Order of Ecclesia. Since it's attack rate is excellent.
It's more a matter of area coverage.

[frozen veldt]

Honestly I feel like it's really strong when fully evolved - I may have to do a quick test run.

[unborn veldt]

It's most certainly stronger than SpellString.

[frozen veldt]

Test 1: Dairy Plant, Hyper-Hurry-Inverse-Limit Break.

Melio Confodere was hitting for 1k damage per individual bullet as soon as it came out.

[frozen veldt]

Second Test: same set of starting conditions.
With Confodere I went
With Cats I went

I think the biggest difference-maker was getting a second Luck Boost event early on with the cats.
Cats got a higher kill count overall.
Confodere had significantly better DpS.
Not shown: I basically had to stand in the cloud of cat-fusion in order to not die. This was not a problem with Confodere.

[next totem]

Would probably be a better test without hurry

[frozen veldt]

Hurry was mainly because I didn't want to spend more than an hour testing both weapons.

[next totem]

Gatti amari gets stronger the more floor chicken it eats, so hurry mode would hurt it

[frozen veldt]

I took another spin, this time using , Dairy Plant, Hyper-Inverse-Limit Break, and a full 6 weapons, with the other slots being Tyrfing and Boot Rune.
Awake was necessary because Giovanna does not survive early-game Inverted without it. It still took several attempts to even get Confodere. Survivability was only achieved once Confodere got its first evolution (Lifesign Scan refused to show up even with 60 other weapons banished).
I had to cut the test run short since I have to go to dinner, but at 15 minutes Melio Confodere (obtained at around the 8 minute mark) had already out-damaged Cats.

[frozen veldt]

Final test I'm gonna do, same as above, but with Darkana Final Speed was ~ +1101%.

Results seem pretty conclusive to me.

Towards the end of the run, Melio Confodere and Rune Sword will kill enemies before they get to the Clouds of Violence Gatti spawns, even if you aren't moving.
If you are moving said clouds will despawn if they go offscreen.

[twin wren]

yeah I've also had really fun results using Confodere because of and combined with ||Blackmore's|| per level bonuses for more speed

[ebon gazelle]

So my testing had some different scenario parameters, but I think it's interesting how wildly different the results were

I will actually concede that Confodere has more potential than I gave it credit

Mostly I can see it floor bosses way better than anything else, which is nice for a weapon that doesn't need a passive

It's kinda easy to slot in

It's just MISERABLE to use by itself

It's a scalpel in a game that favors nukes

And before it's a scalpel it spends two evo levels being a butter knife

[frozen veldt]

The major difference between the tests looks like the use of Sapphire Mist.
That's going to benefit the cats a lot more, because they're a Loitering Munition that benefits from several cats being around at once.

Confodere works really well with Slash because the large number of hits per activation means that crits happen lot more frequently.

You skipped on the clover, which means the crits happen less frequently.

Clover > Spinach if you're taking both and

[ebon gazelle]

Clover replacement alone saw a +66% increase

Regrettably, that is still 430M going up against 2G

[trail tusk]

wheres my uno they told me it came free with my morning star

[ebon gazelle]

You have to download it, it’s free

[twin kayak]

Is one of ||Soleil|| or Cristopher's effects freezing every enemy for a second every level or is that exclusive to playing co-op with both?

[frozen veldt]

For me, that additional damage just doesn't make up for the aggravations that come with using them.
Besides which once the Darkanas come into play it stops being about raw output and starts being about not overtaxing the Switch.

[ebon gazelle]

It could be. Unfortunately, Soleil's effect isn't really documented anywhere, and a lot of us can't test because we've got no one to co-op with

[twin kayak]

It might be an effect that only happens when both are in play since soleil's description implies something like that.

also, you can easily test multiplayer things by yourself if you have multiple controllers.

[ebon gazelle]

I regret to inform you I do not have multiple controllers. Just the one I use for Monster Hunter.

[ebon gazelle]

Yeah, it’s a pain because you’re essentially having to play a zoning game not just with the enemy but also against your own weapon. It’s close to one of the last things I’d bother picking up whether for its base form or its evo.

But imo a payoff’s a payoff

[rancid karma]

does anybody know where to find the animation gifs of the dlc characters?

[unborn veldt]

The hosts are Charlotte and... Shanoa?
Shanoa doesn't even use spells. Only glyphs.
But I suppose Sypha wouldn't wanna deal with Charlotte. She probably reminds her too much of Maria in Judgement.
As for Maria, she doesn't really use spells. Just her familiars.
Juste is probably too busy enjoying the furniture in the castle.
And Carrie doesn't seem to know how to use magic beyond burning things to ashes through raw energy discharges.

Should probably have gotten Grandmaster Barlowe.

[static cypress]

actually shanoa mentioned that reflectio and fulgur was a glyph magic from order of ecclesia

[surreal scroll]

Barlowe would try to deceive Charlotte into casting Power of Sire.

[unkempt jay]

The video is pretty cute

[exotic siren]

This DLC is so long. I've been playing for Hours got the achievements and it gave like 40 more achievements now 🥲

By achievements I mean "unlocks"

[atomic sonnet]

VS + the first four DLCs has 85 characters.
Ode to Castlevania has ||--80--|| characters.
It's gonna take another year to beat every stage with every character...

[frozen veldt]

There's a reason VS deserves the Labor of Love award from Steam. That and it's one of the only games I've played this year that's even eligable for anything. xD

[ebon gazelle]

It really does. It's also the closest thing we're getting to a new Metroidvania.

Is there a more consistent/easier way to do this that doesn't rely on Crystal Cries?

[exotic siren]

WOW this was grindy

Now I gotta do the secrets 😭🔫

[trail violet]

*yeah your not done *

[exotic siren]

IK

I just got me the DLC for Christmas. I've been playing A LOT

[trail violet]

yeah its great

[exotic siren]

I got a couple of the secrets just doing the achievements

I've heard they're very hard. Am I in for trouble?

[trail violet]

if you dont have a guide you might not get anywhere imo

they are weird / obscure

[exotic siren]

I'm sure there's something pinned somewhere

Or Google for that matter

[potent zenith]

None of them are hard really. About the only one you might have issue with are the ones for the Axe Armour, Amalaric Sniper, and ||Megalo Death||. The former two are annoying, the spoilered one is mainly annoying if you have hurry mode on.

[river wasp]

Is there a guide that actually has like, order of operations? Found one that listed all the character unlocks but sorted alphabetically T.T
There's so much in this DLC it's like the size of the freaking base game or bigger lmao

[light hound]

Unlocks menu

[river wasp]

Eh i guess

[light hound]

If you are confused on HOW to unlock specific things, feel free to ask

But it's there for a reason

[boreal imp]

its only for the first half

[woeful plume]

where should i grind for 100,00 kills?

[white gust]

Just play a regular run.

Make it endless so you don't get shafted by Red Death.

[ebon gazelle]

If you don't do it on Endless and insist on doing it on normal/Hurry time settings, go to ||Joachim Armster's|| boss room and defeat the Frozenshades that spawn in there because they only have 1 HP

[fathom orchid]

^

Hydrostorm makes it super easy there

[potent zenith]

Turn off Hurry mode too, that way you'll get longer periods of time with the easier enemies.

[pulsar fulcrum]

Since google failed me: Is there a way to ||re-play the Megalo Death boss battle?||

[fathom orchid]

yes

||just go back as richter||

[pulsar fulcrum]

I thought it might be that simple. Still, it's better to ask.

[next relic]

you can always fight it if you use|| richter||

[devout spruce]

Is it every character that was added to Ode to Castlevania able to find the Castlevania pickups? Even if not identified in the description.

[fathom orchid]

yeah

[devout spruce]

Okay, cause many of those items are really powerful. I'm curious how I might weigh that in character choice considerations.

[atomic sonnet]

Why Fleaman why.

[light hound]

funni

[atomic sonnet]

I hope my horror is funny to someone when I post that BESWEC then because OHGODWHY.

[severe river]

anybody know how i unlock the last challenger?
I think is because Morning star i can't unlock, already tried with Richter and Reinhardt

[fathom orchid]

you just have to use all of those selectors once. here's an image with what selectors each character can use (spoilers for secrets)

you can start with them as an alt skin, or they can appear in levelup if you have an open active weapon slot. using seals should make it pretty easy

[severe river]

thx man, was missing Morning star

[white gust]

Also, I believe the devs updated it so that Reinhardt can start with the Morning Star.

[torpid matrix]

that specific change is not actually implemented currently (sadly)

[static cypress]

bruh sanctuary can't limit break while reflectio can

[white gust]

Deliberate choice on the devs' part, since it can onehit bosses and the reaper without restrictions.

[next relic]

Sanctuary can clean the red reapers

[river wasp]

Spoiling just in case ||Does familiar forge interact with sos in any way? Like it's a weapon but it uses a passive slot. ||

[next totem]

No they just show up in the passives section, but they act like separate characters and aren't considered your active weapons.

[river wasp]

Hell yea, so it doesn't take up a weapon slot, messing up sos. Pog.

[rotund olive]

Wondering about a specific character; ||Does dmitri only copy his NEWEST weapon or every weapon he gets?||

[next totem]

Newest

[rotund olive]

ah

[sick pelican]

Hi am I allowed to ask about secrets here?

[next totem]

I'd recommend #💀survivors-spoilers over this channel

[obtuse glade]

https://discord.com/channels/904353235006017556/1301999183368163442 might work better (maybe), depending on what you'd want to ask.

[scarlet knot]

I have a question, what do the pickups do? (heart refresh, karma coin, mirrors, etc.)

[fathom orchid]

heart refresh gives +5 recovery temporarily
karma coins have a 50% (affected by luck) chance to essentially proc a rosary that also heals you
mirrors triggers all of your weapons and double your current amount bonus
wall chickens heal you for 60 hp
neutron bombs deals 1000 to the screen, meaning they can kill instakill-immune enemies if their hp is low enough

[scarlet knot]

thanks

[devout spruce]

You can read more here
https://vampire-survivors.fandom.com/wiki/Pickups

[cyan urchin]

So whats your favorite familiar so far? I think My favorite it's the one with troll bombs lol

[devout spruce]

Pumpkin and it isn't close. I do like Faerie as well just because of how it looks and the small amount of healing it provides.

[nimble coyote]

I like the look of the little dragon, but Fulger isn't a good weapon and the dragon's use of it is even worse.

[ebon gazelle]

To ||play|| or to summon?

If it's the former, everyone using Refectio is OP so I enjoy using Faerie. Wood Rod and Pumpkin are also fine.

If it's to summon, then Pumpkin by far. Troll Bombs man...

[coral parcel]

Hey, wanted to ask here to see if I was doing something wrong before jumping to conclusions and making a bug report-- anyone else having trouble unlocking Isaac? I evolved the mace like the wiki said, but I never got him

ohhhhhh, i think i figured it out-- though people were weirdly aggressive about it lmao. reddit is for weirdos

[twin kayak]

do you have the black disc

[coral parcel]

yeah no dw i Get What I Gotta Do don't mind me

[cyan urchin]

Summon of course playable characters are his own thing

[cyan urchin]

Redditors are pretty sensitive about everything yeah

[scarlet knot]

aight time to unlock all the whip users

i don't get the charge mechanic though

[next totem]

Standing still will charge the bar, which does something different per character when it fully charges

[rotund olive]

I think its kind of funny how sword brothers can easily make you fully invincible to everything

max weapons 2,have your starting weapon and sword brothers with silent old sanctuary and empty tome,done

now nothing can hurt you

[surreal scroll]

My vote on familiar is Pumpkin

If you ask as playable I'll choose Ukoback as you can draw...not so innocent drawings with Svaroag Statue

[twin kayak]

the wood rod as a playable is my favourite, while as a familiar, i really like the sacred turtle, it looks so silly and it is decently useful

[rotund olive]

Fun fact:
I have the entire richter thing at the top of the tower recorded

And boy I was happy when I first saw that

[obtuse glade]

Does running on Wood Rod give +3 Amount to , , and , or does it give the +3 to only ?

[scarlet knot]

and here i thought i had all the unlocks in castlevania dlc...

[rotund olive]

Hm?

Also i was listening to the ost of the dlc in my last hour and a half of my work today

Ebony wings slaps so damn hard

[white gust]

Just the fire wand.

[surreal scroll]

How can Keremet Morbus be so...bad?!
It just went out of control midway when you tried moving nonstop
Even behaves like Tap Water on Draught.

[rotund olive]

most normal run with random in otc

[static cypress]

uhhh the star flail and moon rod swing projectile is missing its half sprite

[tawdry dock]

my god hector is strong! He is my new main. Is there anyone else who gets extra familiars like him?

[fathom orchid]

maria, isaac, and ||young maria|| can get some

the last getting the most

[tawdry dock]

oooooh okay thanks!

[rotund olive]

jet black whip is so insane

[boreal imp]

i prefer alucard spear and its evo

[rotund olive]

yeah but i mean in terms of solo weapon

[boreal imp]

Thunderbolt spear is also insane
you flood the screen with projectiles and the spin attack is there if something gets too close

[unkempt jay]

if you like: broken weapons
you should try: any of the dlc weapons

[light hound]

[trail tusk]

[vague iron]

[twin kayak]

[unborn veldt]

Sword Brothers has the advantage that it can simply be bought right at the start. No rng required.
Not much reason to care about the details if you are just completely invincible the whole time.

[ebon gazelle]

You do need like... 67% CD? For 100% uptime on Sword Brothers

[bright geyser]

what is the point of flea man 💀

[twin kayak]

funny

[bright geyser]

i mean he is op af but he has 1 hp 😭

[bright geyser]

garbage

[twin kayak]

have you tried using him

[bright geyser]

yes

[twin kayak]

why is he op

[bright geyser]

he starts with the game killer arcana

[twin kayak]

that is not good

[bright geyser]

well its the best he can get

unless i run all the way across the map to get the cerberus clock and dominus stuff

[next totem]

Or just use the teleporters

[bright geyser]

yeah

but flea man dies fast so not an option

[twin wren]

I think the usual path is to just buy weapons from the librarian for him

flea mans point is that he's just a fun/tense challenge

[trail tusk]

the fleman "meta" is
1: pick silent old sanctuary
2: get sword brothers from librarian
3: try to get empty tome from something

[surreal scroll]

Can Fleaman dies from Dominus?

[fathom orchid]

yes

[ebon gazelle]

Personally I use Crystal Cries + Icebrand in order to make Fleaman a tolerable experience

Him being 1 HP is the biggest blocker for me so flipping that on its head immediately is the way for me

[boreal imp]

dominus can kill charaacters

[burnt spruce]

took a small break after getting through several of the castlevania characters, and i eventually wandered south off the map and found some kinda gravestone, went through some trees and found a big building that has a sealed door inside, but no way past it... am i supposed to trigger some kinda boss fight here? i don't see anything in the area

[boreal imp]

defeat the real final boss of the stage as richter first

[burnt spruce]

ah, ok... i still haven't unlocked richter

[fathom orchid]

Sounds like you need to ||go to the top right room as richter belmont|| after doing that, the bottom area will unlock ;)

[static cypress]

why richter is the only one can fight dracula tho how about alucard

[twin kayak]

richter can't fight dracula

[trail tusk]

no one can

except for the mudmen technically

[twin kayak]

||olrox, carmilla, galamoth, death (kinda), soleil, keremet, joachim, walter, stella, loretta, succubus, and blackmore|| can all fight dracula

not to forget ||fleaman, frozen shade, axe armor, alamaric sniper, malphas, cave troll, bitterfly, alleged ghost, and ukoback|| (i am only mentionning the playable ones)

also, ||tri anchor, tri blunder, werewolf, simondo, rottin ghoul, sammy, tanuki, kappa, the reaper, thunderous oni, cute molisano, dragon shrimp, boon marrabio, avatar infernas, and leda||

[trail tusk]

and stage killer poe

[twin kayak]

and giant bat (vs) and Pipeestrello (only together)

[twilit sun]

why Confodere doesnt want to evolve?

[fathom orchid]

you either 1. have the evolution sealed in collection or 2. aren't picking up an evolution chest

[white gust]

As a rule, evo chests don't start spawning in until 10 minutes into a run.

Exceptions exist, but that's the rule since the early access period.

[faint stone]

how do i fight dracula?

[fathom orchid]

||go to the throne room (top RIGHT room) in otc as richter belmont||

[faint stone]

is this like a new dlc or something? i'm kinda new to the game, and don't know much.

[fathom orchid]

Newer, yeah

Released on Halloween

[faint stone]

ohhh

[faint stone]

what does it cost?

[fathom orchid]

4 usd

[faint stone]

is it good?

[fathom orchid]

Very

[faint stone]

i'll check it out, thanks

[boreal imp]

its the best dlc so far

[shrewd nexus]

so far every DLC has been amazing

[burnt spruce]

dude... finally finished the final battle with richter and... damn, that was AMAZING

i feel like i underpaid for this DLC

[trail tusk]

so did i

[unkempt jay]

I have no regrets

OTC is awesome

Though playing VS for 100 hours without any other games kinda burnt me the hell out 😭

[trail violet]

yeah

same tbh

[unkempt jay]

I haven't even finished the DLC

I think I've still got like 15 secrets left

When the next update comes out I'll probs be back but I am FRIED rn

[static cypress]

uhhh is richter the only one who can fight death in the game not alucard or even the other belmonts?

[twin wren]

||correct
I think they just really wanted to do a twist on the infamous SOTN dialogue scene.
plus it's not really an actual "fight" anyway. more like a cinematic ending.||

[static cypress]

I really want want dracula having a dialogue for alucard

[fierce moat]

hi guys how to unlock the one next to the clock tower in collected ?

[trail violet]

its gemini globus

[fierce moat]

thanks...so ineed to get globus then use gemini arcana right ?

[trail violet]

yes

you can use the character thats starts with it and just pick Gemini

[fierce moat]

thanks

[burnt spruce]

how do we hide spoilers? i wanna ask a question without spoiling anything

[fathom orchid]

|| on both sides

Make sure it’s 2 bars on each side

[burnt spruce]

alright, i'll test it out first... ||testing||

alright, so... i'm playing as ||dracula|| and i have like... half a dozen red deaths on me... i can't die, i have 50% curse... so i doubt i'll ever kill red death... am i gonna have to just quit?

is ||dracula|| invincible? i think i noticed the only time my health was "draining" was when i leveled up hollow heart

[fathom orchid]

Yes

Technically no, but it is really hard to die as him

Even more so with armor and some healing

[burnt spruce]

well, i guess i messed up since i got moonlight bolero, i ended up with tons of extra health, healing, armor... and that aegis thing

well, is quitting the same as dying? it doesn't cancel out any achievements, does it?

[fathom orchid]

no, you keep all of your gold and unlocks

you also get the checkmark for stage completion if you quit after time limit

[burnt spruce]

ok, cause i don't think i ever had to quit before, i usually either die or kill red death

[surreal scroll]

Hector somehow stops getting upgrades for And Dominus

[surreal scroll]

Having ||Chaos|| on Carlo Cart is weirdly fun to watch

[burnt spruce]

did i glitch something? after finally quitting my run as ||dracula|| several more characters appeared on the selection screen... ||succubus|| who seems to be ready to purchase already, as well as four ||megalo|| characters, ||elizabeth||, ||olrox||, ||death|| and ||dracula||

feel like i didn't really do anything to make them show up

[fathom orchid]

did you get ||the pile of secrets|| from ||beelzebub||?

||top left boss||

[burnt spruce]

no, i didn't get that... i don't even think i could reach that boss, the door is locked and i couldn't figure out how to get in

i did fight... ||legion|| i think? and received some kinda relic... i honestly couldn't see much of anything late in my run cause so much was happening, i think i got some spellbook as well, and since i had gemini, the whole center of my screen was basically a big shadowy blob, i couldn't tell where any paths were, so i might've also been passing through walls for all i know

[torpid matrix]

legion drops ||ebony and crimson stones|| which reveals ||the 4 megalo characters||

[burnt spruce]

ah, ok... guess that's what did it, then

[burnt spruce]

alright, now i was able to fight ||beelzebub||... dunno why i was able to go into his room this time... and wow, the reward for that was ||even MORE characters?!|| i am honestly feeling kinda overwhelmed

[surreal scroll]

Was it ||Ebony Stones>Pile Or Wood Craving>Pile? Or was it Both or Neither?||

[fathom orchid]

||stones is its own thing. Pile -> wood carving||

[burnt spruce]

ok, i think i've fought every boss in the stage now, except for one... this one south of the, library, i think? in an area that looks like it's outside the castle? i've explored all around it, am i missing a hidden door somehow, or do i have to do something special to access that area?

i wish i could figure this stuff out on my own, but i feel like i am beating my head against a wall

oh, i think i might've found a clue just now by actually sticking to a wall... ||a gold statue pointing at a clock||... do i need the ||clock tower||? i'll have to try that on another run

[fathom orchid]

No

[boreal imp]

||youre not even halfway done||

[celest osprey]

Hey, was just wondering there is apparently a boss that drops the lightning spell after medusa to the left, but the red skull and the boss aren't spawning. Any of yall know whats up?

[fathom orchid]

That boss requires you to have the ||black disc|| to spawn

||black disc is unlocked by going to the throne room (top right) as richter belmont :)||

[celest osprey]

You're awesome, tysm

[sinful shore]

Facing a softlock when using a character with only a hidden weapon in the doppelganger mirror boss room. No weapon shows up, you can only wait for death? Can someone confirm the issue on their end?

I was using ||cosmo pavone|| to just explore the map, had gotten laurel and limited weapons to only one. Stuck in the mirror room now 😑

[carmine barn]

Is the OtC map supposed to have very low enemy density without Charm/Curse?

[next totem]

Most maps do

[carmine barn]

I've done a run at 0 curse/charm with Antonio, he hit like 60 in OtC while hitting 100+ in Mad Forest/Lake Foscari/Moonspell with the same build.

[next totem]

The enemy spawns in OtC do vary quite a bit, some spots have more/less enemies, stronger/weaker enemies, etc

[fathom orchid]

^

[next totem]

Also, just because you had the same build doesn't mean the results are guaranteed to be the same, it can be very different depending on the order you get the items, and other factors

[carmine barn]

Roughly the same order

There were times when I saw around 8 enemies enterthe screen at around 15+ minutes in OtC when in other maps there's be multiple groups converging around that time

[fathom orchid]

i definitely think otc was meant to be harder (leading to fewer/tankier enemies, which definitely impacts xp)

and again, where you are matters quite a bit. the frozenshade area by ||joachim's|| spawner has higher density, for example

granted the xp there sucks but

[cobalt roost]

||i was able to unlock Charlotte & Jonathan, but not Jonathan & Charlotte for some reason. What's up with that?||

||I put the code in both ways||

[fathom orchid]

||the other code has an extra e currently. it's etteolrahcnahtanoj||

[cobalt roost]

||OH ITS LITERALLY BACKWARDS??||

[fathom orchid]

yes

• a typo

[cobalt roost]

thats so stupid im not even mad thats just really funny

anyway thank you :3

[fathom orchid]

np

[carmine barn]

Shanoa and Alucard don't have stats that scale their charge speed, right?

[fathom orchid]

yep

[carmine barn]

So wait, are familiars supposed to be immune to the reaper?

Or is there some hidden interaction with Maria (not young) that makes them unkillable?

[fathom orchid]

otc familiars/followers just dont take damage

period

[marble bloom]

i bought this dlc on my laptop earlier today, switched to my pc, and none of the new characters or maps are showing up its just not there

[fathom orchid]

Do you have the dlc installed on your pc?

[marble bloom]

yeah i dont see why it wouldnt be

[fathom orchid]

Just check anyway

[marble bloom]

i just uninstalled and reinstalled and it works now

[carmine barn]

What determines the side of your character the evolved targe & shield are facing? I've had both end up behind my character. Sometimes only one.

[trail tusk]

usually by default it faces right but it's based off of if you just pressed the A key or the D key, W and S do nothing and pressing those keeps the most recent direction the shield was facing

(sorry for the paragraph lol)

[carmine barn]

Nah I mean how the Targe and Shield Evo apoear behind my character, the other side where my character was facing

[vernal timber]

GOD the ||death|| fight is so good

[carmine barn]

How long does the custos union stat boost from taking damage last?

I've been rapid pressing the pause button and my cooldown reduction is staying as is, so I assume it doesn't reflect on the stat screen

[keen nexus]

Hello, I was wondering if in the OST will add the CASTLEVANIA Music??🤔

[fathom orchid]

They’re looking into it, but licensing it is a pain

[potent zenith]

For now it's available to listen to on youtube

[pastel ibex]

Is uh, the regular Javelin just bad or am I using it wrong?

[trail violet]

javelin just sucks

[pastel ibex]

Unfortunate

It'd be okay if it just targeted nearest enemy/groups. Maybe some actual damage to it too

[trail violet]

it just needs more pierce lol

[pastel ibex]

Wouldnt hurt, but I just find its aiming/arc to be uh...bad

[trail tusk]

also the area
(same reason sucks)

[pastel ibex]

Yeaaah

[trail violet]

well its a javelin

[trail tusk]

this is the same game where a vegetable generates a damaging area around you

[pastel ibex]

There's also just a LOT of weapons, especially in the DLC, that fire only left/right

Maybe if it sought stuff out in like, a cone

[trail violet]

||have a guess at what shuriken does (kinda)||

[pastel ibex]

Yeah I know, but that's more just it ends up that way; I meant actually have it aim at nearby stuff in the cone you face

[trail tusk]

shoots one projectile at a bad arc

ofc

[marsh ore]

I'd really appreciate it if the star flail didn't look a whole lot like the upgraded magic wand

[burnt spruce]

apparently eggs and ||double characters|| don't go well together, cause playing as ||charlotte and jonathan|| had the eggs trying to go into ||jonathan|| and they can't... so they're just rapidly flying all over the screen and even picking up speed, flying further away as time goes on

[burnt spruce]

also, seems like ||sanctuary|| insta-kills red death, but it doesn't count as actually defeating him, so the white hand isn't triggered.

[fathom orchid]

White hand doesn’t trigger based on killing a reaper

It’s if you a kill a reaper that’s been HIT with /

[fathom orchid]

Also, known https://discord.com/channels/904353235006017556/1302882360764661760

[desert timber]

otc is so peak

[boreal imp]

white hand only spawns if you kill red death with and/or

[keen nexus]

This is the only way to kill the reaper right?

[fathom orchid]

no

it's just the most intended

[nimble coyote]

Earliest reaper kills involved using Suor Clerici in Inlaid Library. You had to reset until the gem on the table offered Runetracer as your second weapon, and then you had to wedge yourself in such as way as that the projectile would completely cover and protect her from harm. Then, you waited for 30 minutes (this predated Hurry mode) at level 2, careful not to move so as not to gain any additional experience (Attraction power-up had to be turned off for this to work). Chests from bosses landing on her were okay, though, and would help the run survive. After 30 minutes, you would sprint towards the red gem at the far end of the screen, which held all of the experience from the run (using the levels you gained as temporary invulnerability and hoping it's enough). Then the fun begins: you had to get Clock Lancet up to max level from that experience, and hopefully Laurel as well. Then, you needed to wedge the first reaper (it HAD to be the first, because he was a level 2 reaper as opposed to a level LOTS reaper) between the table and the bookshelf so that your runetracers would wedge into him and do continual damage. If you got lucky, you managed to beat him before the fourth reaper showed up and overran your lancet freezes.

DLC weapons are much more effective at non-White Hand defeats than that early strategy, though, with Sanctuary being the best at it.

[I didn't come up with this strategy, mind you, but I did try it and succeed after six or so attempts; that's how I got my first Reaper defeat, before Infinite Corridor was in the game]

[boreal imp]

no, the earliest reaper kills involved editing the files to give garlic insane damage

that was when killing him unlocked missingno

[ebon jolt]

Earliest legit reaper kills, then. Though conisdering it unlocked missingno at the time, maybe that was expected.

[white gust]

I'm still proud of myself for using the Clerici method.

[marsh ore]

dunno if it's a bug or not, but there are quite a few characters that ask me to evolve weapons... again?

[next totem]

Likely because you didn't have their unlocks beforehand, and now they are available

[marsh ore]

yeah, I unlocked them after beating ||Death|| so that must be it, right?

[next totem]

Sounds like it

[pastel ibex]

Aww, the ||Master Librarian's weapons dont evolve?||

[next totem]

Nope

[pastel ibex]

Maaan, I wanted some wacky stuff from that.

[mint meadow]

Just finished the DLC, you can see how much love went into it. Thank you devs for the lovely experience.

[marsh ore]

there is a LOT of love there indeed

[desert timber]

especially ||fleaman||

[marsh ore]

can we get official ||fleaman|| merch tho

[desert timber]

reak

real

like the green shirt and blue pants

[trail tusk]

guh

[desert timber]

did he get you as well

[trail tusk]

no

[desert timber]

then report my body

[trail tusk]

no

too busy fishing on the web

[desert timber]

aw man

are you at least catching good fish

[trail tusk]

soda rings

[marsh ore]

are the ||Jonathan and Charlotte/Char and Jon|| spell codes not working?

or do I have them wrong?

[fathom orchid]

What are you trying to input?

[marsh ore]

loudshout

shoutloud

[fathom orchid]

Those are outdated

The updated ones are ||jonathancharlotte|| and ||etteolrahcnahtanoj||

[marsh ore]

also what are ||Stella/Loretta codes too?||

thank you

[fathom orchid]

The individual ones have spells, but the duos dont. ||twinnado and cooltwin||

[barren spade]

So, for some reason Sanctuary didn't Limit Break, even though Refractio did. Is that suppsoed to happen?

[trail violet]

yes

[barren spade]

Huh. Okay

[trail violet]

its so the finisher doesn't constantly retrigger when you level up

[barren spade]

Also, rhetorical question, why is a glass cup a better weapon than the shotgun revolver?

[trail violet]

id say yes

its glass

also the wine burns i guess

[barren spade]

...And the silver doesn't?

[trail violet]

the coverage is surprisingly not that great

[barren spade]

Hmm.

[trail violet]

its also that wine has a lower cooldown

[barren spade]

And has a better area. Seriously, the revolver misses torches sometimes and that bothers me.

And I mean the bullets somehow weave around the torches without touching it.

[trail violet]

its a thin bullet

[barren spade]

Clearly the theory wasn't that great...

...Out of curiosity, are there other weapons you can't Limit Break?

[trail violet]

im not sure but there are others

[fathom orchid]

power of sire

clock tower

[barren spade]

(They made an entire clock tower a single weapon, the madmen)

Never got power of sire, though. Thatnks for letting me know.

[fathom orchid]

clock tower technically isn't a weapon in itself

[barren spade]

Is it four weapons in one?

[fathom orchid]

getting the evolution acts like alucard shield. it makes the clockwork weapons hidden

getting it alone also gives hidden copies, and if you remove clock tower with mods you still have the clockwork weapons

[barren spade]

...That's wierd, but okay.

Wait, does the limit break of the individual parts stay after evolving?

[fathom orchid]

yeah

[median phoenix]

what the best crowd damage weapon in this dlc

[white gust]

Sanctuary when it procs.

[barren spade]

Can anyone tell me how to get the Beast Key? I can’t seem to find the boss that drops it…

[fathom orchid]

||after getting the black disc, eligor (a boss on the FAR RIGHT side of the map, check the pinned map) drops it on kill||

[barren spade]

…But how do you even get there? Is there a path that I might be missing?

[fathom orchid]

from the bottom of the map, starting from the left side

or just walk through walls

[barren spade]

The thing is, a set of doors is still locked for me, even though I defeated the boss beforehand. Mummy, right

[fathom orchid]

mummy doesnt drop a gate