🗼final-restriction-release

[sour garden]

damn 80 is already absolute total destruction for me

[static chasm]

vortex go brrr

[twin plover]

[west tendon]

Got the funny number

[uncut panther]

Now, you can go for f100
Can't imagine how hard keep 3* ako&kayoko alive...

Also 4* Coconut!?

[uncut lodge]

4* kokona is perfectly fine for <75F

speaking from experience :V

[native ocean]

Me only f50

[sour garden]

[sour garden]

80 is so hard already

[sick tulip]

That screenshot has it killed though, (Right? I hope I'm not blind)

Good job!

[sour garden]

Enough for today

having sizuna is great

[uncut panther]

But he's doing f99, that's why I'm surprised

4* wouldn't be a problem even for f84 (based from personal experience), but it become a lot harder when go above that

[lyric atlas]

Wow, finally

[static chasm]

The Hanako solo is always spooky

[lyric atlas]

Everytime using Hanako, it has to be milisec perfect
I saw my whole team almost die like 3 times

[uncut panther]

How about reposition your striker like this, so Sakurako get kayoko basic skill...

Which is more crit

[graceful cradle]

f80 with no sshiroko and ny akari

lets goo

[graceful cradle]

ok f90 actually harder like

a billion time

i gave up

amma try if i can do f85

[uncut panther]

UE40 Utaha stronger than ue40 Sakurako despite Sakurako have better mood...

Btw it's f90

[somber mango]

anyone hv Sakurako ue50 w fl slot?

[onyx salmon]

Cleared f89 yay

Will probably grind for f90

5s left is pretty scary tho

[lone girder]

[late lily]

ue50 siz?

[inland lava]

It took me a month to realize that putting hoshino in the farthest side makes my life easier in set

[onyx salmon]

Yes

[inland lava]

so I can just heal all of my squishies with 1 hanako's ex

[onyx salmon]

UE40 Sakurako UE50 SIzuna UE30 Utaha

[late lily]

Thanks. Just getting a sense of how much it compares to my 3* siz

[late lily]

Ah, okay

[inland lava]

stage 69 clear

[late lily]

Nice

[inland lava]

very nice indeed

[spark epoch]

Also, UE40 Umika stronger than UE50 Sakurako without the presence of NY Kayoko, on F89.

[sour garden]

hm, this wouldn't be in top pillar aoe would it

I'll test it later

[uncut panther]

Of course she's stronger, She have the same green big smile mood like sakurako for outdoor. Plus Umika specifically made for this raid in the first place...

[late lily]

I cleared F80!

[spark epoch]

If only she didn't require so much micromanagement, if only her summons were easier to buff properly, she would have be even more powerful.

[spark epoch]

Congrats! And good job for clearing it with a 3-star O. Shigure.

[rugged zephyr]

hello there

my team comp and investments

[torpid basin]

[brazen bison]

NA has a cheated floor 124 clear if someone wants to report

[uncut panther]

Even Asia have someone who use cheat gaming chair...

f124

[native ocean]

idk why they make it too obvious

[robust fjord]

Idk either, but I don't try to understand them lol

[native ocean]

is it possible for mod to report it?

since no nick on it

[sour garden]

[robust fjord]

It's already reported by one of us

[native ocean]

[west tendon]

Just 10 more seconds pls Nexon

[shy moon]

ue40 kayoko

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1256782018512158750.webp?size=48&name=kayokogaki

[west tendon]

st_hina_punch

[inland lava]

and I thought that Thunder Vortex was scary

the new ability of set from stage 75 and upwards

It does not hurt that much I think?

[native ocean]

Well the thunder one still hurt more

It just adding the thing u should heal

[sick tulip]

Thunder Vortex is burst damage that hits fast with even damage distribution.

It can be resisted effectively with burst healers or shields like Hanako and Kaede, but it is deadly to the slow and steady healing like Atsuko and O.Shigure.

At F100+ it can put a lot of pressure on the obelisk as well. A not-insignificant number of Kokona breakpoints revolve around the Thunder Vortex in ATG3

[torpid basin]

Sena stonks

[slender gust]

bruh, why did I pull for O. Shigure then

[native ocean]

U need to time the heal

[sick tulip]

Well, the other attack in ATG3 is the Lightning Cage, which furthermore happens twice. Burst healers like Hanako tend to get attritioned to death by this type of attack, whilst healers like O.Shigure and Atsuko will cruise through it.

Distinguishing between the two types of healers can assist in diagnosing which one needs more focus, depending on which attack is killing the team.

[merry thunder]

Did floor 85

[oblique sparrow]

👏

[half atlas]

👨‍🍳

[cunning hatch]

does anyone in NA have a UE50 sakurako I could borrow for a pity floor 64 clear?

[sour garden]

[sour garden]

I have someone with ue40 wappi with more atk stat then ue50

[static chasm]

Either lb, silly high relationship level, or both

[spark epoch]

Finally F90.

[halcyon moss]

[spark epoch]

OK, F91 also cleared.
Triple Umika summons saved the day.

[sour garden]

[native ocean]

That's a lot of HP bar

[sour garden]

i need reset to try with a better borrow

surely 100 atk will make the difference

[graceful cradle]

how cant hanako survive that attack

she burst heal like crazy

[lyric atlas]

With the right timing, one of hanako tick can heal the team right when hp is still decreasing

Technically, it's like the students have max hp + 1 hanako tick hp

[uneven summit]

[jade mantle]

Just realized i need to clear by tomorrow afternoon, who to borrow?

[native ocean]

uh

I think today is last day?

I'm sure plana will rest tmr

It's the same way as how raid works, not event

[native ocean]

Sakurako

[jade mantle]

Got it, thanks

[tawny dragon]

https://discord.gg/bluearchiveglobal?event=1320683525393092629

[sick tulip]

Oh, it's not that Hanako can't heal the Lightning Cage, but rather that she has a comparatively more difficult time healing it relative to the Vortex.

The team can lose most of their HP to the Cage attack, and Hanako can heal all of it back, but then they can still lose the HP all over again from the second half of the same attack, and need to be healed yet again.

[swift plaza]

skirino only need ue30 right?
for chokma f100

[sick tulip]

I think there were F100 clears with as low as 3* S.Kirino?

[native ocean]

There is nonUE but i forgot what star

https://youtu.be/Upn4acnDIVQ
Kenbald

F99 tho

lemme dig further

https://youtu.be/a_rqzeuI86E?si=fAm0vAjh2BKIcgiM
There u go

[sick tulip]

4* seems pretty easy to find

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INJIJrmoJP8
Here's another 3* reference

Without having experienced it yet myself, I'd expect that as S.Kirino becomes weaker there's likely a stricter B.Hoshino check as a tradeoff.

[native ocean]

ah i see it

[torpid basin]

[lusty sage]

Help 24.
Recommend team formation and borrow.

Should I?

[cedar sparrow]

does anyone have that google doc/pic of alternative students to use for blue/red set if you dont have the best options?

[torpid basin]

Should be in here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nHWGKKoxKaId2755yCr2FOnmQZwjQ4FxoBsYlLGLmOw/edit

[uncut panther]

I only have for blue, and you can see what alt for the students

[cedar sparrow]

was looking for this one, thanks

[torpid basin]

Your initial team looks good, you should try to borrow a Sakurako instead and then use your last slot on T. Hasumi. Also Ny. Akari is very good in this mode so she will help

[opal berry]

considering i cleared with like 0.8 sec left, i reckon NY Akari is a must lol

especially if your blue roster aint that stacked compared to oldies

[lusty sage]

How strong is Sakurako?
Last SET couldn't 24

[opal berry]

Sakurako could clear F97.... and thats a conservative statement

she will be there if you wanted to make a F100+ clear

dont believe me?

[wary hill]

im not sure why my s.izuna cannot break the red orb on f99 after the 2 minute mark. she only does about half damage, fyi its a fully maxed s.izuna

[opal berry]

check the following:

• buffs on S.Izuna being active or not active (internal, from herself or external, from others)
• whether or not S.Izuna was struck by a lightning bolt

[lusty sage]

Which stronger?
Sakurako 3 +NY.Kayako(borrow)?
Or Sakurako 3?

[uncut panther]

Seeing your Sakurako just lv 60...

Sakurako 3 lv.90 would be a lot better...

[uncut panther]

Here's some tips:

• Switch Iroha with Ny.Akari
• Switch Koharu with Kokona
• Borrow Sakurako ue40 or ue50
• Bring T.Hasumi

[lusty sage]

Which stronger?
Sakurako 3 maxed +NY.Kayako
Or Sakurako 3

[uncut panther]

• Change the students position to make it easier to heal

[uncut panther]

Still is better

Btw next time if possible please, please sort the students by level or attack type

So, we can help you make the team a lot more easier...

[clever blaze]

for set blue, do we need to use s.Izuna's EX at all?

[opal berry]

ball pop. But Sakurako can be used for that too

depends on the rot you're following, if its hw

[clever blaze]

ball pop with sakurako = wont additional dmg on ex effect be on ball but not on boss?

[opal berry]

the FF effect would be wasted on the ball, but thats a non-issue because theres only Set around

Sakurako gets an enhanced modifier to her AAs so it should be fine

just dont spam it too often

[clever blaze]

i see, thankyou
also is it good in case if i can keep ex sakurako on boss every 30sec without cancel her normal skill?
or best just only buff izuna+sakurako without using their ex

[humble trail]

Sakurako's EX being up is a huge damage increase for her. She'll want good uptime.

But don't clip it. Refresh after it's down or at the very last second.

[opal berry]

you may have trouble keeping that up after the 2 min mark as more of your cost may need to spent on prematurely deploying heals

i would do it every 30-35 seconds, but after 2 min marks, i get more loose with that

[clever blaze]

Izuna is better up time on her ex too? or she doesnt give additional like sakurako = no need to use at all if i can use s.Roko break the ball

[humble trail]

Izuna or S.Izuna?

[clever blaze]

thankyou for answering

[humble trail]

Are we talking > F50 or below??

[clever blaze]

s.Izuna my bad

floor 100

[humble trail]

S.Izuna's EX is only useful to break ball or cycle.

[clever blaze]

thankyou, i see

[humble trail]

Her debuff or whatever has 0 impact. S.Izuna doesn't have "EX uptime" on set.

[clever blaze]

i thought blue armor boss = s.Shiroko ex was enough,.,,

for the ball

[humble trail]

S.Shiroko can also work if you don't have S.izuna.

But, S.Izuna is 1 cost cheaper and S.Shiroko going on boss means def down is up. It's not a huge damage increase, but it's better to S.Shiroko boss and S.Izuna ball.

Don't need high S.Shiroko uptime on boss though. Use her to cycle to your healing mainly

[clever blaze]

ah...i see

[humble trail]

As for why Sakurako wants EX uptime. Look at text here.

It adds a hit of 17.9 damage to each of her bullets.

Also, the "new bullets" also apply the sub skill effect.

So, each Sakurako bullet has sub effect, then the EX adds 1 more bullet of 17.9% damage, which gets the sub-skill added again.

1 Sakurako bullet becomes 4 instances of damage (bullet + subSkill + EX_Augmented_Bullet + subSkill).

It can ramp crits up quickly for Kokona/Ny.Kayoko as well.

[clever blaze]

i see... thankyou

[humble trail]

Gl, F100 isn't easy.

[opal berry]

thats actually a bit outside of my band lol

i kneel

[humble trail]

You could consider me a Set main in a way, because one of my goals was to F100 from the beginning and I managed it despite starting April 2024.

But, it was close af and took some whaling/planning lol.

[opal berry]

Still worth commending, because I just treat the game mode as something for the bored vets to do, so it has a pretty damn high level of requirements, even when accounting for a focused vision

I don't really plan for it beforehand, its more just on-the-fly investments and adjustments after the first run or so.

F97 is enough for me, that way I get all of the materials i need for my TOR crusades. An extra 3 floor for the title isnt worth it to me

I'm broke anyway

[humble trail]

F97 is more than enough. F100 is just for title anyways.

I could go higher if I invested more, but I'm slacc now that I got my F100s lol.

[clever blaze]

may i please ask 1 more question?
(this is my roster)

so if i was properly-able to

• uptime 30sec on sakurako + buffs(ako ny.akari kotama)
• uptime 40sec on ny.kayoko
• break ball buff on my dps
• only break ball with s.Shiroko
• didnt use s.Izuna ex at all

and then my dmg wasnt enough
is the problem because my Izuna is only ue30?
or i better use s.Roko on Set more?

i doing floor 99 atm and i think i miss 1 sakurako ex 30sec cycle once
but boss has like 42bars hp left

(its like eventhough i fix that 1 miss sakurako cycle, it wont be enough for floor 100)

[humble trail]

I'm pretty sure that this comp can do it despite UE30 S.Izuna.

1. I'm assuming that this is fine, but, your DPS is never hit by the tower lightning to get debuffed, right?

2. Also, can you tell me how much hp this is, in millions? Bars won't help me much sry.

3. Do you rotate Ny.Kayoko between S.Izuna and Sakurako? It's a classic strat to start the whole rota with Ny.Kayoko and to swap her between both. You should have near perma uptime on both students this way. It's kind of huge, it adds tons of DPS to Izuna to do this as well.

For Ny.Kayo, it'd start with Sakurako. Cycle Sakurako, Izuna, Sakurako, Izuna, etc.

With Ny.Kayo buff, S.Izuna should break ball (cheaper than S.Shiroko) and maybe you can fit some S.Shiroko on boss for a bit more dmg too.

[clever blaze]

1. i always heal kokona on the pillar but i actually didnt check its aoe circle if it hits my dps, let me check 1sec
2. sure, doing new run atm
3. no i didnt... this is such critically good advice, let me try doing it...

hm if use s.Hoshino instead will be less micro-tasking than kayoko i wonder

[humble trail]

Check #1, near the end at ATG3, 1 Kokona sometimes isn't enough to top it off, but maybe your UE50 is enough + Atsuko.

#3 is huge and the standard strat yes. This might be enough to clear.

[humble trail]

Ny.Kayoko's buff is MILES stronger than S.Hoshino's.

People only run S.Hoshino to replace Atsuko, when they go with a Hanako strat.

38% atk is PEANUTS in the context of Kotama already buffing atk.

Effectiveness is kinda huge, esp for Izuna who has none in her kit, even despite already having Ny.Akari.

[clever blaze]

i see...

[humble trail]

But, it'd be more comfy yes haha

[sick tulip]

Increasing S.Shiroko uptime on the boss will probably be the best outstanding untapped dps increase if the NY.Kayoko shuffling isn't enough.

[humble trail]

I just mathed it out on schaledb.

For an UE30 S.Izuna, Ny.Kayoko EX+Sub is 28% more damage than S.Hoshino's atk buff if every other buff is up.

[sick tulip]

If all the red orbs are being popped with S.Shiroko, then that means that none of the Red Orb buffs are overlapping with S.Shiroko defence-shreds.

[clever blaze]

eh thankyou for kindly calculating

[sick tulip]

It's probably a bit late to change the rotation at this point, but for the future, it can be worth noting that Sakurako's uptime cycle is also a bit longer than 30 seconds.

[humble trail]

Cuz Sakurako takes like 6.1s to finish her EX and apply buff lol.

[sick tulip]

Exactly right. She buffs herself near the end of the EX animation, and the EX animation isn't affected by the special status either. The cycle is closer to 35 seconds long.

It's plausible that this accounts for the aforementioned thirty seconds of downtime

[humble trail]

Also, to be clear.

From "no Ny.Kayo" to "perma Ny.Kayo", on your team, your Izuna will deal like 51% more damage in total.

[sick tulip]

Does that calculation include the subskill uptime?

[humble trail]

Hmmm, I had counted subskill as being always up. And all other buffs up too.

Just, Kayo on vs Kayo off

So many crits in set, Sub skill should be mostly up, but yes 51% maybe a bit optimistic. 40% at the very least

[sick tulip]

Idk if subskill is always up on a UE40 NY.Kayoko.

[humble trail]

if we discard sub entirely it's 35% more.

Middle ground might make sense then, at 42% ish maybe

[sick tulip]

On 3*, I'd estimate maybe 70% uptime? But I've never looked into it properly.

[humble trail]

His is UE40 though, that's beast. Mine isn't even UE40 yet

[sick tulip]

It's really good, yeah.

That's a longer basic and EX duration as well.

[humble trail]

Just longer Kayo overall.

[sick tulip]

Basic skill should target Sakurako in that formation, I'm pretty sure

[clever blaze]

seems like i need to fix akari's pos a bit but aoe vs my dps looks fine...

[humble trail]

Good, yeah and if R tower never gets lightning, your Izuna is good too.

it doesn't rlly matter if Ny.Akari herself is Hit, as long as she buffs everyone though.

[sick tulip]

I'm suspicious that Atsuko in this spot will put a lightning strike on the right tower at some point.

[humble trail]

Is your Atsuko healing left tower consistently (not displaced by big Car, etc.)?

[sick tulip]

She's very likely healing both towers

[celest spindle]

could be rotation issue

this set i got lazy and stop at f99

[humble trail]

I got Atsucute now (selector), but O.Shig not invested enough, so I'm postponing using her in Set.

[celest spindle]

already got the f100 blue, that 1,5m credit not worth the mald .-.

[sick tulip]

42 health bars I'm guessing to be nearabouts 10% HP of F99

[humble trail]

10% eh? That seems very doable with our proposed alterations to his rota

[celest spindle]

[sick tulip]

Well, it kind of has to come from the rotational improvement, was what I was thinking. If it doesn't work, it's probably on ice until next blue season.

Doesn't the season close in like, an hour?

[humble trail]

That's mine. So S1 was October eh? Time passes so fast and slowly at the same time wth.

[sick tulip]

Oh, two hours.

Wait. Not . That's still not enough time.

[humble trail]

Well, considering he was quite close, maybe it's barely enough. But yes, it seems quite tight.

My red too. Some good times.

[sick tulip]

Unwinding a month of non-alternating NY.Kayoko rotations into an alternating NY.Kayoko rotation in two hours makes a better player than I'm qualified to advise.

[humble trail]

[celest spindle]

red Set need a damn time stamp table to keep track the buff .-.

[humble trail]

I write a script for myself and execute it.

Too tough with 0 buff QOL otherwise lol.

[sick tulip]

I spreadsheeted it too.

It would have been nice to be able to 'pin' the sugar rush stacks to the front of the buff visibility queue, or something like that.

[celest spindle]

or let player chosse what buff to hide

[sick tulip]

B.Yoshimi was my anchor for the relative rotation, but blink twice and she's done three AAs (Or was it four? Or two??)

[clever blaze]

https://youtu.be/WwEFklNIdtg

but somehow i tried this on blue right now → first run without kayoko buff on izuna = noone die
now when i try to put kayoko buff on izuna-rotation, some of them keep dying differently on each run while i was doing the same rotation...
???

[humble trail]

Could be that you delay heals or time them differently now? Due to diff rota.

If you can record your runs it might help find a solution.

[clever blaze]

do you think it might also caused by that i used skill not as much so kokona passive didnt proc enough?

[humble trail]

I meant you watching your own recordings. I do this to analyze my own runs.

[humble trail]

Which skill you didn't use as much?

[clever blaze]

Due to diff rota. << its weird because first run that i didnt squeeze in more ex use for kayoko-izuna buff, i was last until times up

[humble trail]

You mean less Sakurako uptime?

[clever blaze]

sakurako was up time properly

[humble trail]

In my runs, I count Kokona procs and usually rely on them being at specific times (around there). Ideally you'd notice a difference in proc amounts or timings.

[clever blaze]

ok (i didnt record my run because i pause way too much

[celest spindle]

I think something go wrong in rotation and oshigure tick kinda slow

[humble trail]

I'm a pause maniac in set too

[celest spindle]

I only use hanako so, yeah

[merry thunder]

Almost close to the end

gonna try F100 once I get Kuroko

[lyric atlas]

Got a record of F97 2 hours before end.
The amount of pause is huge, the length of the pauses are event longer than the actual run itself

[lyric atlas]

Knowing pausing a lot, I just beat the stage without the music
Then cut all the pauses and add the song later

[uncut panther]

Looking at the time you post that I just realise, that really a close call...

[zenith escarp]

Red Set again soon, make sure your borrows are correct and are not for Blue Set

[native ocean]

thx for remind me

it's clearly still saku

[humble trail]

I reminded my friends and club cuz I need their Yoshimi.

[merry thunder]

So….we have new frr now right

[native ocean]

ye

wait, u mean new color right?

[merry thunder]

Yup

[native ocean]

ye, will be up in like 10h

[split minnow]

Red Set

Nice

Comfy red Set.
F100 speedrun

[topaz crown]

Today is set?

[humble trail]

like 42 min from now iirc

[topaz crown]

Oh okay

[sick tulip]

[split minnow]

Comfy F100 speedrun

[sick tulip]

Third slot T9 gear is a really big difference!

I fumbled pretty hard but still made it to the end.

Those mistakes would have gotten everybody killed thrice over two months ago

Oh, Kokona comes back to pose in the victory screen even if she retreats mid-battle. I forgot.

I guess she deserves it

[native ocean]

oh wait

i haven't share s4 playlist?

[sick tulip]

Quick, before they notice!

[native ocean]

[sick tulip]

There might be a visual bug on the F1-24 Lightning Storm/"Arrow Splitting the Moment". Is it the same for anybody else that the graphic for the final hit is invisible?

[native ocean]

time to remove s3

aight, s5 also up

[sick tulip]

The F110 clear from JP, is everything needed for it available already in S4?

Would it be added to the playlist as well if so?

[native ocean]

idk bout that

i only add vid for season near it

like S3 contain few S1 and S5

[sick tulip]

Okay

[native ocean]

red Fos is like S9 ?

that 110

[sick tulip]

Um... Idr

It's the one that ended just now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a67uHAT98sU

[native ocean]

i can proly add it to s6 later

[sick tulip]

I haven't checked yet if we have received enough total LB materials or whatever else to field this team yet.

Err... I don't think there's any characters releasing between now and then that can change this either...

Oh right, B.Hoshino, of course.

The kill is four seconds ahead of time. Maybe this could still be done, I'm not sure.

[native ocean]

are u talking bout blue or red one

or is that red but in general?

since i don't see b.hosh there

[sick tulip]

It's the Red One

This was the F110 breakthrough for Red Set

This team could maybe be fielded in its entirety today.

Except that B.Hoshino hasn't released on global yet, so we don't get bond stat transfer onto S.Hoshino.

Later I'll check if there's other strictly time-limited upgrades which might be lacking as well. Since we have only received enough LB upgrade materials for 4.5 units so far.

[native ocean]

oh

[wide orbit]

Easier than blue

[native ocean]

Tru.. me can do f50 now

[split minnow]

So true

[rugged zephyr]

slep 100

[native ocean]

i wonder if i can solo f60

[lone girder]

3s faster than S2

[uncut panther]

Using ny.fuuka might looks stupid, but it clear f99 smoothly...

So it's not as stupid as it look...

Maybe I'll try f100 tomorrow, I already use all borrow properly build b.kazusa

[quaint sage]

f99 done

[inland lava]

Heya folks, I plan to upgrade my s kirino but I heard that you can clear chokmah with just b hoshino

I don't know if it's true with higher stages

[lean gale]

You mean skirino?

[inland lava]

oh yeah that

yeah typo

[lean gale]

Hmm well ideally you want more than just one cover student afaik so BHoshi alone isn't enough to be that cover, you'd definitely have an easier time with skirino alongside as she provides some useful buffs too

But I haven't looked in Chokmah gameplay too much so unsure how much investment skirino needs at what floors, but 3* should suffice for most of the lower floors

[inland lava]

I plan to 4* s kirino this event, luckily I got s fubuki so farming her elephs might be easier

I got like 85% bonus on rings

4* might be enough for stage 75 I think, we'll see

[inland lava]

feels like red set is easier due to the rotation

you will always have a 20 cost and there's a one less rotation compared to blue

and I always run out of cost on blue for some reason

might be due to a shorter buff duration

[native ocean]

because two of ur unit has 50s buff

[lean gale]

And NYkayoko's role gets absorbed by shoshi

[placid marlin]

Red Set free Set

[idle current]

f99

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031915219926138940/1321388642698133504/RPReplay_Final1735113972.mov?ex=676d0e92&is=676bbd12&hm=8ccbb88d8186b3cc691c181b3c40b93c03f87e0d41a175cf9da9689a851502b4&

[lyric atlas]

Yes, there are some comps with b hoshi solo, tho you have to time using the ballista right when it's about to summon 2 fireballs.
On last phase, you need a team that can stay close to each other so that b hoshi can cover them all, usually with solo bhoshi comp, chokmah should be about to die.

[split kiln]

F104 full band once again

[opal berry]

I kneel boss

u helped me with my F74+ clears as well

i must pay tribute

[sweet saffron]

i wonder if f99 is doable for me 🤔

[clever blaze]

100 easy now with notepad
https://youtu.be/WwEFklNIdtg

[sour garden]

should i invest in bkazoos or atsuko for floors 80-90s?

[sick tulip]

For Set specifically, I think B.Kazusa would be the stronger investment

[uncut panther]

Well... if you already have Kokona built, then b.catzusa would be better investment

[sour garden]

i quickly raised her to lvl 80 but she barely survived f74

[uncut panther]

B.kazusa have low hp, so unless you have her 5* you definitely need to babysit her

You can use her to f99 even if 3* as long you maxed her out

[sour garden]

let’s see what we can do

[celest spindle]

depend though, i see bYoshi UE50 getting killed the same as bKazusa 3*

[split kiln]

can use her until even 104
just need correct team

[humble trail]

I almost did F103 with my F100/101 rota, but 3 star D.Ako died in ATG.

Do I just do F101 like last time, or upgrade my D.Ako?

Is more than 3 stars needed for D.Ako anywhere else?

[uncut panther]

I just haven't seen a video 3* bkazusa above f99, so... yeah I just not confident to say she can goes above that

(doesn't mean she can't)

[split kiln]

is your healer gear all maxed up?
if you have a lot of dmg leeway try to change up your rotation a bit maybe?

[humble trail]

With D.Ako dead at like 1min something, I had 10m hp left on boss.

I imagine I coulda barely cleared with D.Ako up?

It's Hanako UE50 M7M7 BG2 with max gear.

[split kiln]

uhh try maxing her sub first ig...
maybe thats extra heal enough to squezee it out

[humble trail]

Thx, I'll take a look at my stuff.

My D.Ako passive might be 7 too lol (HP).

Been cruising on minimal D.Ako for so long.

[sick tulip]

Highest 3 star D.Ako I've seen last red season was F107.

I don't know if any F108 clear of that kind exists? Maybe with very very optimal play it's possible.

But... At that point, 3* -> UE30 D.Ako might be cheaper than whatever other UE40+ upgrade was needed for her to survive.

[humble trail]

Is D.Ako needed above 3 star for anything but Set?

[sweet saffron]

i wonder if i can replace my d.hina for an atsuko for healing 🤔
i never use her ex anyway

my bkaz is at ue40

[sick tulip]

Not for regular clears yet, as far as I know.

There are plenty of strats, especially in Hiero, that make use of UE D.Ako, however.

It's over now, but UE40+ D.Ako was niche PvP pick on the Indoors season too.

[sour garden]

Probably need to max hanako before going further

is fish important for red set? Maybe I can just put oshigure or smimori in her slot

[split kiln]

Sroko herself not really
But you need cost sub

And she is the best cost sub for set

[sour garden]

oh right

cost regen

and nagisa cdmg sub is higher than oshig

[humble trail]

F101 done.

I was messing up Hanakos.

I'll try F103 with my 2nd best Yoshimi.

[fringe sigil]

[sour garden]

oh and nagisa's sub heal is good for bcat and byushi

[humble trail]

Wait a sec, my Nagisa is pitiful...

I'll save resources and be content with F101 for now.

[opaque dawn]

opened the game just for this one

[native ocean]

Wao

[uncut lodge]

wait, the red orb is normal armor right?
I forgor

[dense perch]

wow thats a new record for me

idk if i can go to higher floor with this

[native ocean]

It follows set armor

[uncut lodge]

thanks, so cant use iwak to bust it this time huh...

[native ocean]

Only possible for lower floor

Higher floor will need s.rocco+nagisa or d.hina

[sour garden]

fish + nagisa to pop the ball?

[sweet saffron]

that's what i also do, ye

[inland lava]

I do s nonomi + iwak

[zenith topaz]

102 with 7 seconds left

Would be slightly better if Ako lived past the 1 minute mark

[native ocean]

[idle current]

time to try f106 again

I want the gifts

[wide orbit]

3* maxed B Kasuza doable for 103?

[robust fjord]

I think that's fastest red set f99 Ive ever done

[native ocean]

uh the render is bad

it reduce the quality a lot

[robust fjord]

ok yeah faster F100 clear too

[dense perch]

man i cant do it

[robust fjord]

also yes I used ur yoshimi as always for f100 @spark epoch 🛐

[native ocean]

Yellow armor is hard to keep alive beyond f74

Have u try B.Airi?

or other blue/purple armor

[dense perch]

i dont have any

and i hwvent built b.airi

[native ocean]

is that Hanako maxed?

[dense perch]

m777

im very hesitant to max her out cuz of o.shigure

[native ocean]

hm

[spark epoch]

Great!

[native ocean]

Think if u are gonna upgrade o.shig for long-term use (u40) then might do earlier if u want to clear that floor?

[dense perch]

the thing is that i dont have o.shigure yet

im afraid of her spooking me

cuz i know o.shigure is better than Hanako

[native ocean]

ah..

more universal, ye

Kurokage, FoS, Chokmah

[opal berry]

anyone got a F100 clear using this comp?

im 30 mil dmg short

and im not sure if its invest diff or rot diff or both

[lyric atlas]

Well hanako is farmable, even on higher floor, people use both of them.
Also hanako and o shig skill needs different stuff

[spark epoch]

Are you losing Yoshimi uptime? Even if you skip a round of Yoshimi EX during ATG3, she should still be able to do 70M+.

[zenith topaz]

You're missing a DPS

[sick tulip]

I have seen teams like this one that use either Nagisa + Hanako, or Nagisa + Kaede

[zenith topaz]

Can sub out atsuko for either D.Hina or B.Kazusa if you have them

[opal berry]

A bit, yes. Most likely after the 2 min mark because i gotta prioritise heals / S.Shiz to make sure they survive the double ring lightning shit and the final lightning bolt

Yoshimi might have had one or two skipped basic. Maybe

[dense perch]

ik, but still

[opal berry]

Got Kaede, but not raised. No Nagisa

[sick tulip]

In your case, there's a good chance that Naigsa could be swapped in for Kotama instead, using either Hanako or Kaede to heal.

Hmm... Do you have any other potential stat-stick with a CDmg subskill?

[opal berry]

Banking on the future is good, but you never know when you're gonna get oshig if shes not in a selector and you're not planning to get her via that path. Just do it.

[opal berry]

S.Ayane and Hibiki. Hibiki is not raised at all

there's Hanae...

we not gonna count those

[lyric atlas]

1.5 year and not a single ny kayoko dupe

[opal berry]

1.5 year and no Shun

[sick tulip]

These types of statsticks will need to be traded with S.Shizuko in this case, as their EX skills are deadweight. Which is okay.

Rotations wise, two healers should be enough to defend with

If you can't find a good dps striker with which to replace Atsuko, I'd lean towards Atsuko + Hanako as the healing lineup.

[opal berry]

i did three healers because in my previous experience, two wasn't enough

but now that i raised my healers a bit more, maybe i could cut atsuko

[sick tulip]

Well... how strong is the Atsuko?

[opal berry]

also i dont know what other options i can use cuz B.Yoshimi is borrow

S.Nonomi is my own

3* MMMM 999 iirc

lemme check

[sick tulip]

D.Hina and B.Airi are the commonly owned options.

[opal berry]

3* MMM7* 999

D.Hina is 3*, still. B.Airi is 4

[sick tulip]

But other Red/Blue dps are good picks too.

S.Iori, Saori, etc.

[sick tulip]

That might be okay still. D.Hina is a badge user, and also doesn't get hit by the Lightning Cage. B.Airi is a bit tankier in general as a front unit.

Good odds that B.Yoshimi is still the weak link on the healing front.

[opal berry]

and D.Ako. She's 3*

even if they live, i still gotta worry about 30 mil worth of dmg

[sweet saffron]

How much of a DPS loss would I suffer if i swapped my dress hina for an atsuko? (f99)

[opal berry]

and as it is right now, i dont know if what i got can cut it

[spark epoch]

You may want to conserve some cost going into ATG3 to ensure Yoshimi's uptime, especially since you are running duo DPS. But with S. Shiroko in the team, you shouldn't be too tight on cost. Are you overhealing and/or over-shielding during ATG1 and ATG2? And you may not want to always go for everything, aka buff with D. Ako and Kotama and debuff with S. Shiroko, otherwise you may consume too much cost.

[sick tulip]

D.Ako is standing in the lightning, I guess. Now that I look at it, perhaps there are formation changes that will make things a bit easier to heal.

[native ocean]

That's lot dmg lost if the one u replace is DHina

[sick tulip]

Atsuko is usually on the outside-most position.

[native ocean]

But idk the full team

So can't say sure

[opal berry]

I did use S.Roko, but that was more for cycling to the next skill than the dmg + def down

[sick tulip]

With only two other dps, D.Ako becomes a good source of damage too, so see if there's a spot where she can be placed near S.Hoshino, away from the lightning strikes.

[opal berry]

I think i used S.Shiz for shields like thrice overall

once around 2:20 mark for relocation towards the south near S.Hoshi

[sweet saffron]

my bkaz is a ue40, my d.hina is a ue50

[opal berry]

once during 1:00 and 1:50 for either the lightning storm or the horizontal double ring shit

and one last one before the the final 3 ATG lightning strike

[sweet saffron]

my other option to staying alive is to replace nagisa with an s.eimi (but i kinda need to build her)

[opal berry]

maybe Atsuko swap place with D.Ako for now?

[native ocean]

Oh, it should be can do then

Since B.Kazusa still doing the same dmg when also buff byosh

[sweet saffron]

nrhd, thanks
my d.hina ex is kinda useless since im already popping ball using nag+iwak, so this'll help my rotation

[sick tulip]

Yeah, that should be good. Move her over yet one more slot if she’s still not inside S.Hoshino’s aura. I don’t remember the exact coverage in this lineup.

[opal berry]

well the empty slot is yoshimi so if that were the case then she might end up outside of s.hoshi's aura

but ill test now

[native ocean]

This post of Byosh still inside SHosh

[opal berry]

hows this

[sick tulip]

B.Yoshimi I’m pretty certain would be okay. I happen to have B.Yoshimi in Pos4 myself.

[native ocean]

Looks good

[sick tulip]

That looks good! If she doesn’t take a hit from the hot obelisk, then there should be a marked improvement.

I’m still a little suspicious about the overlapping sub skills on S.Shizuko and Kotama. Both these units are good but…

[native ocean]

They don't have Ako for c.dmg sub?

S.Ayane, Hibiki

[sick tulip]

I think it’s S.Ayane or Hibiki, depending on what’s built better.

[opal berry]

the reason i used S.Shiz was because i was worried that even with triple healing, i couldn't get perfect coverage (heal / shield) to ensure all of my students live past the 2 min mark / 2 ATG

A secondary benefit is the periodic cdmg buff via basic. I am aware of the overlapping sub, but what i just said overrides that elephant in the room

doesnt look like shes hit by the lightning

i might try this first then

but.... im not sure how much extra dmg can i expect from a 3* D.Ako

[sick tulip]

Can you actually not do it without the shields? Idk how strong the Atsuko is, or if it’s purely rotational inefficiency

[opal berry]

shes 3*, not UE30+

[sick tulip]

It’s not 30M damage, but it will be a step in the right direction

And she will also be a lot less of a survivability impediment if she’s out of the lightning strikes

[opal berry]

on the 2nd Set (red armour), I went with Atsuko / Kok / Hanako and S.Shiz for survivability because removing just one of those 4 meant i had a lot more trouble keeping the team alive past the 2 min mark.

Its not so much the amount of healing / shield that was lacking but the "coverage". Even if I could heal them back up to full with Hanako, for example, I still had to churn through 1 too many skills to get to the next skill that could keep them all alive. Just Kok wasn't enough, for example.

BUT this might be indicative of rotational ineffiency where if I cut something out or even waste cost at 20 even just for a bit in lieu of something else, then maybe i wont have to bring so many heals / shield units just to keep my team alive

And this was the 2nd Set, we are on the 4th.

What I am using is merely reusing what I used back then to clear F97

[sick tulip]

Nothing in ATG3 is going to be easy to heal, but the boss’ dps check isn’t balanced around having a comfortable time. So it might be a case of just working on it until you are absolutely certain that it’s not possible with only two healers.

[opal berry]

Right now im looking at trying to clear F100 just for the sake of it. And my healing has improved somewhat since then:

• Kok basic and sub went from 7 -> 8 and she now has LB25 healing
• Hanako is now fully maxed out lvl 90 BG2 UE50 MMMM 999 LB17 (iirc) healing

[sick tulip]

And when you do your run again, see if you can analyse S.Shizuko’s basic skill uptime over B.Yoshimi’s basic skill casts. Pay especially attention to the subskill basic.

[opal berry]

i dont have concerns with S.Shiz EX skill interfering with her own basic. But I do have concern over her EX skill interfering with Yoshimi's basic, on top of maintaining perfect uptime for Yoshimi

so ill try.. to pay attention to that

[sick tulip]

If S.Shizuko is really of great importance, then it may be Kotama who becomes the leading candidate for substitution.

There are a few clears hovering around which use Shizuko to avoid Kotama’s subskill clash

[opal berry]

I perceived that she is because of reasons I said previously. But that was based off my previous attempts. Idk, its my first time trying F100 so im just thinking its only gonna get tougher so maybe maintain the full roster for heals and shield

trading the damage from ex for crit rate sub?

[sick tulip]

B.Yoshimi experiences some degree of buff-dilution on the Atk stat as it is, and AA dps also don’t experience as heavy of diminishing returns from Crit Rate as EX-centric dps do

There’s a lot of other things to consider when swapping to Shizuko (or someone else entirely) of course, but it’s the most obvious lemon on the dps to me at a glance.

30M HP lag is… a lot isn’t it!?

[opal berry]

I did observe that most people run 3 DPS around this stage. Evidently 2 is enough for F99. The HP increase cant be that massive from 99 to 100

so im just thinking its part invest diff, part rot diff

if 3 DPS wasnt a thing, still

So this is indeed possible for 2 DPS, but I can guess that the permanent cdmg sub from nagisa helps a lot here

[sick tulip]

I don’t have anymore time to investigate now, but maybe look into some clears from early S2 and see if you can figure out the maths behind why they take stat sticks + Kotama instead of S.Shizuko + Kotama. I’m certain there’s a sensible logic behind it.

[opal berry]

and that guy has a UE50 S.Nonomi, possible even with LB25 atk bonus

Im UE40 MMMM 998 with LB6 atk bonus

a tier 9 watch + LB25 could cut a few more million, maybe down to 25m gap, just being somewhat generous with my estimation

ill see what the thinking heads at ARS think. Thanks for this so far

[spark epoch]

Remember that, compared to F99, you get 5 level penalty on F100. You are dealing 10% less damage even if everything else is identical.

[opal berry]

dont think that 10% will be the clincher for closing the gap

but yea, that tracks

[spark epoch]

Yeah, if you can clear F99, then F100 shouldn't be 30M short.
Are you doing identical rotation on F99 and F100?

[opal berry]

should be, yes

but i might be prematurely using heals / shields from 2 min onwards

ill try it again to be sure that thats what happening

[spark epoch]

Make a recording and inspect the footage to see what is potentially wrong?

[opal berry]

but ill preface by saying that i already achieved my (practical) goal of getting all the lb mats. Anything F97 is extra

ill see if i can do a one-take and record it via shadowplay

i dont use written notes for skill usage times

[uncut lodge]

c.kotori is also an option, her normal skill stacks with most other crit buffs

[clever blaze]

rip not enough dmg f104... (borrow ue40 d.ako)
if use my own 3☆d.ako then may be she stole kokona's passive heal? → b.Yosimi ded during spear...

wonder if borrow s.nonomi instead of b.kazusa can be better or not...

[idle current]

Not considering raising your own D Ako’s UE?

[clever blaze]

im very behind so, i just got m.Shizuko, and s.Ui is coming, etc = not enough eligmas

[idle current]

Dam

Also, you happen to be looking for a club still?

[mossy crown]

will u have an issue if u bring 3 dps instead of 2?

[sick tulip]

A little generous, but not terribly so. There's maybe 1-2M difference in the UE40->50 upgrade. Not entirely certain of T9 watch or LB25.

The swing from crit variance on S.Nonomi is 0.5-1M too, I think, though it could be more, because I'm comparing numbers on slightly different floors.

[opal berry]

i could raise, but its not worth it to me

now i put my dimes in pvp

[sick tulip]

I wouldn't do it either

[opal berry]

i already got my lb mats

so maybe next season

hopefully kuroko gives me free f100

[sick tulip]

I ran a run with not exactly the same comp, but I got B.Yoshimi killed with almost a minute still to go and also ended at slightly below 30M.

These three healers have some slightly awkward cost overflow in the first half of the fight, and I didn't use S.Shizuko EX at all... I'm still not entirely convinced that she's worthwhile, but if there's nobody better to use...

[sick tulip]

And in reference to this, the reason that tri-dps teams are more common on Red is that Blue Set teambuilding hinges heavily on NY.Akari creating congestion in the special slot.

Blue teams often move healing duty to a striker slot, ie: Atsuko, and hence they end up with only two slots leftover for dps.

The Red Set meta doesn't yet have a clear equivalent for NY.Akari, and the last special slot ends up being somewhat 'open'.

Pressing stat-sticks or some other form of damage boost into that slot is common for Atsuko-owners, but if owning a solid red striker dps, then moving all AoE healing up into specials in order to field the tri-dps is ideal.

That idea does still make assumptions of there being good options on hand with which to fill the open striker positions: Whilst viable Red units are more common than Blue, individual experiences may differ... But I digress.

[opal berry]

fair , and i do have viable red units to use...

on a technicality

practically, they're not ready

D.Hina is still 3*, while B.Airi is 4.
Even if I were to invest to UE30 B.Airi, theres no guarantee that ill get the F100 clear

i only got 650k creds right now

hardly worth it

[sick tulip]

I'd be pretty inclined to try both anyway, just to see for sure whether they work. D.Hina on 3* is probably still tankier than B.Yoshimi, and her long range will help with that too.

B.Airi less so, but she is a 2-Cost cycle, and Hanako teams inherently have chronic skill cycle headaches in ATG3, so it might help.

It's going to demote D.Ako back into the lightning strike zone if you do though, so that's one significant tradeoff.

[clever blaze]

i'm already in one... hm but'd be nice if i can get in much active club
mine was little dead

[clever blaze]

issue will be that i gotta fix all the rotation + test everything in details again = quite a lot of work compare to reward
i might try do some few swap and see

may be i should try 103 first, i skipped from 100 right to 106 > 104 atm

[crisp shale]

is thera an f2p guide for f 74? for explosive I dont have B.ass and S nonomi is only 3*

[idle current]

are you interested in joining mine? I'll send you details in dm's if that's the case

[mossy crown]

fair enough

[clever blaze]

i have to leave my friend club if so = let me decide a bit. i will dm you, thankyou Folie

[idle current]

np

[surreal dew]

Anyone got a UE40 Kazusa?

[sweet saffron]

what region? I have a ue40 bkazoos

[surreal dew]

Global

And yea sorry UE40 Band Kazusa lol

Forgot there was 2

[sweet saffron]

kk, i'll add you, just input friend code

[dense silo]

malding done

[surreal dew]

Oh nvm I'm in Na xD

Thought Na and global the same

My bad

[sweet saffron]

It's fine.

[fleet kindle]

Any1 has that jp video red set f100 clear with precise skill timing?

I forgot to save it

On yt

For now i stop at f74
Will do until f100 later

[wide orbit]

Pretty sure you are much more than qualified to do 100+

There's a RS Rainstorm guide, but they replaces Nagisa for S Shizuko

[fleet kindle]

Cant sshizuko properly since im on phone

Finger in the way

[wide orbit]

It's not like you need pixel placement though

[hushed hatch]

Guys, do we need a tank here?

Just go full dps and supports right?

[native ocean]

ye

Cuz most of atk hits all your students anyway

[lyric atlas]

1 more for the title

[graceful cradle]

my tear fell, a bit

I FEEEL SO SIGMA RIGHT NOW OH MY GOD

f90 without uh
shiroko

mhhmm i still have 17 seconds left

that mean i can prob do more than 5 million dmg

[split kiln]

[humble trail]

Does Set take more EX damage when he's groggied?

I'm watching a F103 run that I hope to be able to F104 with and he D.Hina EXes Set despite not needing to break any balls.

[split kiln]

No

[humble trail]

Is it a waste of time to D.Hina EX? Or, is it better to do 1 round of EX with her if you have spare cost at the end?

He does it just the once.

[split kiln]

That idk
I never really thought about it

[humble trail]

It's this part right here (link timestamped): https://youtu.be/tGkwtNSFZ9M?si=kI7IbKmexhjL6BwB&t=300

Do you think this comp can do F106?

My B.Kaz is UE40 M7M7, and my Nagi is 3 star with M sub though, so not sure.

[split kiln]

Uhh 106?
They'll die

Really bad

[humble trail]

haha

I was eyeing the purple gift. But, as expected, F106 is too much.

F104 then?

STN shard kinda worth for me maybe

Oooh, at 105 Set gains +5 levels?!

[split kiln]

Maybe 104
They have 10s left and its 3* bkazu

[humble trail]

I'll try despie level 7 Nagi basic at 3*. Maybe I'll get it close shave, thx.

Should I skip that D.Hina EX at end, you think?

[split kiln]

I wouldn't use it, but I never actually calc which is higher between AA and ex dmg

[humble trail]

Aight I'll give it a shot after reset.

[split kiln]

[sweet saffron]

3* seimi huh...
i might drop kotama then...

[split kiln]

@humble trail I'm using my own dhina stat, but assuming dhina take 9s to do ex its
147k*9=1.32m
meanwhile ex dmg is
405*2+847=1.65m
on average

seems like using ex skill is better

[humble trail]

I see!

Thanks for the info!

So, the guy was doing a small optimisation there.

Ssg D.Hina EX

[split kiln]

oh I don't have seimi basic and sub tho
that will buff her aa but not ex

I have kotama instead

might be small enough diff to worry about

[humble trail]

Wow, so on F104 I need good Nagisa crits to Nagisa+Iwak ball.

This is my Nagisa .

I guess I'll just slacc on F101 and wait.

I can't rlly afford to fix her rn. I'll see about doing it for next Red.

[split kiln]

yeah with seimi nagisa seems like AA is better than ex average
but you can high roll ex ig

[spark epoch]

You can never crit on the red orb.

[humble trail]

Wait rlly?? Then, I'm just barely out of reach on F104 I guess

TIL

[humble trail]

[spark epoch]

F100 cleared

[fringe sigil]

What’s your iwak like

[humble trail]

ue40 M7MM

Maybe I missed a bit of the Nagisa EX, but I don't think so

[fringe sigil]

Yea it’s probably the placement then, you can place the nagisa ex pretty far from set and it’ll still hit him and the ball as it goes. That’s what I did

[humble trail]

I usually get it right, must've missed it.

Was trying new rota too.

I'll take another look later

[split kiln]

pain

[sick tulip]

It’s so close!

-#

[iron pumice]

Hmm

I don't how much furter could i go without B.Kazusa

F97 worth trying

[spark epoch]

A blunder from earlier today.

[graceful cradle]

misclick a dress ako ex and its joever

😭😭😭😭😭

i didnt misclick anymore.

if only i have sshiroko rn bro i would try to do f99

[merry thunder]

U didnt pull?

[spark epoch]

You can do it! Even F100 is clearable without S. Shiroko! #🗼final-restriction-release message

[graceful cradle]

but u have nagisa instead

😭😭😭😭

[spark epoch]

I'd need to swap Nagisa for Himari if I wanna do F102+, otherwise the cost is too tight during ATG3.

[graceful cradle]

a

maybe ill consider ue30 bkazusa first

mine dont even do more than 15m

even shoshi too

[spark epoch]

DPS-wise, 3-star B. Kazusa shouldn't be too much of an issue. With Himari, you can guarantee B. Yoshimi uptime so that B. Yoshimi should have the potential to do 75M+ on F99-ish.

[graceful cradle]

[lone girder]

1.5m richer

got massive skill issue in 104

[dense silo]

thanks to peavie's guidance I managed to beat my highest floor ever, F74 done

[iron pumice]

[iron pumice]

Let's fkng go

All atk books getto

[uncut lodge]

2mil hp away from clearing 80F
I really could use some gearboxes to max kotama's passive...

[native ocean]

kotama's what?

[uncut lodge]

sub skill. I have it at rank 8. it should be able to cover that last bit of dmg, but I ran out of mats

[native ocean]

passive is another name of enhance, btw

[sick bay]

anyone got a ue50 byoshi in asia

[uncut lodge]

F

[native ocean]

Have u try BAiri

[uncut lodge]

she's 3* lv60. I really can't afford to build her right now...

[native ocean]

hm

Try move d.ako proly

In place she can avoid debuff

[lyric atlas]

Got the title, I can now sleep peacefully

[merry thunder]

try

[uncut lodge]

Thanks! That worked
80F clear!

[spark epoch]

F101 cleared without S. Shiroko!

[clever blaze]

2dps f103 works, 7sec left
next time will try f104

i fix my notepad to squeeze in more dps on yoshimi, instead of EX every 50sec, i made it to 54.4sec

her ex animation is 7.0sec and her buff last only 47.40sec

[dense silo]

will it be possible?

[spark epoch]

Wow, Yoshimi dealing 88M of damage!

[clever blaze]

b20 (+10)

[spark epoch]

My Yoshimi has significantly higher stats but miserable uptime, thus dealing only 74M on F101.

[clever blaze]

may be because i have b.Kazusa's EX always on every 40sec ?

(i didnt check yet if Kazusa has her buff right at when using EX or not

[spark epoch]

Mostly because I skipped a round of Yoshimi EX during ATG3. The cost is too tight without S. Shiroko. During ATG3, my Yoshimi spent ~45 seconds without any sugar rush, hurting the DPS a lot.

[clever blaze]

i got no s.Roko last time so i borrowed her
https://youtu.be/WwEFklNIdtg
i uploaded precise timestamp here↑ (in comment section)

if you're interested

i will upload f103(or 104) fixed version on monday

[spark epoch]

I have to borrow an O. Shigure instead. My Hanako is only UE30 5477 and I don't have O. Shigure. So no S. Shiroko for me.

[spark epoch]

I'll check out your video!

[clever blaze]

its quite unfortunate that you had to skip her, but fes's selector ticket is coming
so you can get her

[spark epoch]

Yeah, my pyro planner didn't allow me to pull her. I do plan to spend the new selector ticket on her.

[queen sphinx]

Hi, can i ask for some help in team making?

[spark epoch]

It should be possible.
I tried to get as close to your team as possible and improvised a run. I could clear it with more than 1 minute to go.
Here is the footage if you are interested. Note that this run is improvised and thus far from optimal.
Tsubaki is merely a placeholder. I don't have T. Yuuka or S. Shiroko, so I cannot copy your team 100%.

[queen sphinx]

Im currently at floor 18 rn, and the 1 spot is usually left for borrow
Can i get some advice on who i can build as core unit for set?

[dense silo]

Thank you kanon, ig it's just my dako not being max then and rotation issue ,had to heal more too as kokona and dako dies mostly without shield (bad shield timing),
I'll try it again then
Also are you using dako on pillar just to see when her buff runs out or is there some mechanism and buffing the pillar idk about yet

[dense silo]

Borrowing a BYoshimi and buffing her while healing the team should be more than enough to tackle F50 at that level
Can also go higher than that if you try

[spark epoch]

My D. Ako is M774 T9T9T7. Her investment shouldn't be too much of an issue.
I use D. Ako on the pillar just to see when her buff runs out.
How's your Hanako's investment, BTW?

[queen sphinx]

I mean thats the plan, but i at least eant to push by myself till i cant anymore

Cuz i dont have that mamy byosh to borrow per day

[dense silo]

You can borrow each day

[queen sphinx]

Hmmm alright thanks

Ig ill just get the same answer everywhere i asked

Appreciate the advice, thanks

[dense silo]

Pretty slacc, so much that it scares people

[dense silo]

I'm sorry, I was actually confirming whether you were aware of the fact that borrows reset each day,
In any case if you want to do a borrow less team I'd suggest you build your own dhina for her AA and BAiri as well

[queen sphinx]

Owh its ok, ive been borrowing each day, but i can only push like 5 floors each day with borrows

[dense silo]

Might wanna use kotama later on as well for aoe atk buff and replacing koharu with somebody else if possible

[queen sphinx]

Alright thanks, ill try and build my own dhina and bairi

Even if Bairi is 2 star, will she be any good?

[dense silo]

Needs high investment

[queen sphinx]

For more dps or support? So ig my team comp rn have like too much healing?

[dense silo]

I think copium option is 3* but she'd need to be over 5* at least to do much

[queen sphinx]

Ahhh its ok, i dont plan on pushing far on my own, maybe up till floor 30? Is it possible?

[dense silo]

She can buff multiple DPS at once for 30s
Himari can hyperbuff a single DPS for a short amount of time

[dense silo]

Very easily, i actually beat F45 in past season with my own team (i have UE50 dhina and 3* bairi)

[queen sphinx]

Hmmm so it might be a bit harder for me since i have 3 star dhina and 2 star bairi😅

At least i kinda know how far i can try to push

Thanks, i was looking for this advice actually

[dense silo]

I'd say save your resources rather than investing them into bairi, as for dhina she can benifit more from her investment
Just borrowing a DPS like BYo can save you a huge amount of resources

But in the end it's upto you to decide, I'm just suggesting

[queen sphinx]

I do plan on pushing as far as i can in set, ive just recently reach lvl 90 and can unlock some talents

[spark epoch]

For a more comfy clear, try to EX3 your D. Ako if you have the mats. For Hanako, you may do something like 4147 or 4174. My Hanako is 5477 with T8 necklace.

[dense silo]

Do I not use ako in team then and just rely on dako buff?

[queen sphinx]

And i dont have much plan for building up anyone atm, after my pvp team, i might look into building for set, and then raid? The only raid that i can do atm is red🤣

Maybe blue somewhat

And i struggle with yellow

[dense silo]

If you want more flexibility out of your investment I'd suggest dhina, nykayoko to be worthy of investments

[spark epoch]

Their buffs overwrite each other. You can either bring D. Ako only, or time Ako's EX on B. Yoshimi.

[queen sphinx]

Nykayo has been built, not fully but her skills are somewhat ok-ish

Need few more mats

But she is usable so far

And thanks, ig ill build my own dhina then

But ive been told that dhina wants ue50

And max skills and gears etc

[dense silo]

Been trying that was actually slaccing on gehenna mats as I'm broke on them so kept them in case if nykayoko spooks , I'll try timing ako for now and see how far I goes

[dense silo]

Yeah she's top tier red dps

[queen sphinx]

Alright, i can slowly began working on her

Tysm for the advice

[spark epoch]

You can do something like |D. Ako-----------Ako---------| on B. Yoshimi. Don't Ako immediately after D. Ako, otherwise when Ako's buff wears off, Yoshimi's got nothing.

[dense silo]

Ah right

[dense silo]

i managed to buff the DPS but forgot shielding

Tyuuka easily messes up the positioning for me

[graceful cradle]

u shouldnt use both dress ako and ako ...

do u have himari instead

[dense silo]

I have

Wasn't using cuz was using ssroko

[dense silo]

Was trying to do this

Did F74 like that

[graceful cradle]

do u have bkazusa

[dense silo]

Nope, only bairi

[cold minnow]

Welp

Ill try again later

[deft jolt]

anything i can change here?

i feel like sloting in Nagisa

[merry thunder]

you can increase the difficulty to one where you dont clear in a minute

[deft jolt]

i just got started on the clearing

i could use some help from Nagisa maybe, for the orb

[merry thunder]

you have a dhina

[sweet saffron]

dhina is usually orb popper, unless you never use her ex

ive dropped her for atsuko though, i have 2 DPSes already

[deft jolt]

it feels like i'll lose DPS from her just breaking the orb

fair

[cunning linden]

nagisa cant kill orb on her own

the dps loss from dhina using ex is minor as long as ur not holding her shots for too long

[merry thunder]

you gain dps using dhina ex

if u have spare cost

even with 80% reduction dhina ex is just that strong

[native ocean]

It said to be still positive increase as far as u not let her standing do nothing

[floral bluff]

Kotori as shield support, yay or nay

[native ocean]

Use the S.Shizuko

[floral bluff]

Dont have her

I managed to finish 24

[native ocean]

She is free on archived

Tho *1, but worth to ligma to *3 tbh

Tho if u only want like f50 below, it's no need

[native ocean]

https://youtu.be/wT6nqWvpXC0?si=98NrcKGvHizgE22p
Till f50 is actually pretty simple

u can switch that S.Shizu to other atk sub like Kotama

And just fill the slot

[floral bluff]

im only lv 56 so i dont actually need to climb that much

but yeah my students get melted after the 2 minute mark

[native ocean]

Ye it's ok, i just show how it's "easy" enough to climb that far

that's a Borrow

the other striker is .. lv1

[merry thunder]

you'd struggle using that with level 50 1110 333 2* welfare supports

[native ocean]

i never use s.shizu shield there btw

she is sub and basic support

[merry thunder]

idk if level 50s even have her sub tbh its quite an investment

[native ocean]

sub is lock to rarity

*3

that's why i also just ask em to use kotama with same sub, since i know some won't ligma s.shizu

[static chasm]

Anybody got some good hw with a UE40 B.Yoshi and a 3* B.Kazoo?

[native ocean]

floor?

[static chasm]

97/99

But F100 strats also work, it doesn't really matter

[native ocean]

10 minutes

[native ocean]

what the exclude?

S.Nom and else?

[static chasm]

I do have snono but only 3*

I can borrow like, 4 of em UE50 tho but I only have one UE50 B.Yoshi borrow that I wanna save for F99 or 100

Only common unit I don't have is xserina

[native ocean]

hm, most of it u50 byosh but *3 kazoos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI8PVl1Y9yE&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtHgQIHVJ3gKrEP1aIyBz4--&index=73
this thing kind of insane btw

[native ocean]

so u50 comp one is fine?

[static chasm]

Yeah if I really need to I'll just wait a day for F99 and use the UE50 on F97

Not ideal, but it is what it is

[native ocean]

why u not just directly do f99

the borrow is save even if u fail anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJk3JUkMuOI&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtHgQIHVJ3gKrEP1aIyBz4--&index=80
this one u40 but with B.Airi instead

well S.Nom too

there bunch *3 b.kat but u50 b.yosh

or not even b.kat

[static chasm]

I'll have a look and see what looks good

I just need to charge my phone first

[native ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yioK0jsT_n4&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtHgQIHVJ3gKrEP1aIyBz4--&index=6&t=5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo85eFyGFIg&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtHgQIHVJ3gKrEP1aIyBz4--&index=8&t=2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywsEFzP4fAQ&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtHgQIHVJ3gKrEP1aIyBz4--&index=12

[static chasm]

Grinding Set on 35% ain't the smartest plan

[native ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKq88cWaRuU&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtHgQIHVJ3gKrEP1aIyBz4--&index=75
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0U4cslaLEc&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtHgQIHVJ3gKrEP1aIyBz4--&index=75
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLeBwr7MLsY&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtHgQIHVJ3gKrEP1aIyBz4--&index=77
no bkat

[native ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXinpgAAjKE&list=PL_KvBMo1VNtHgQIHVJ3gKrEP1aIyBz4--&index=52
there u go

[static chasm]

🛐

[native ocean]

u40 with *3 b.kat

[static chasm]

I hadn't considered that tbh, kinda forgot that you can retry with em if you fail the attempt bc I'm so used to restart spamming if there's a problem

[native ocean]

[regal arrow]

bkazusa the key como at f80+

[split kiln]

Wtf near should have given my clear smh

https://youtu.be/1oC53fx7TWM?si=smWUWZU7uyDK2bv7
3* byosh 3* bkazu F97

[static chasm]

24,49,74,99 ez

I can rest

[static chasm]

I used the first one of these

It was a little spooky bc my Nagi is UE40 but this one was 4* and she almost popped red orb by herself a few times

But I was also like, 10m damage ahead of the video 90 seconds in bc of higher invest and T9 gear so it wasn't too bad

[native ocean]

urs not in playlist

[sweet saffron]

3 star byoshi i can do this ⁉️

ssg

[split kiln]

It should be much comfier now with third slot
But I can't verify that, my byosh and bkazu magically got blue star

[native ocean]

from yello to blu

[half atlas]

From f2p to whale

[hushed sentinel]

From baral to whelzix

[mossy crown]

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-out-of-the-water-viralhog-breaking-the-waves-whale-gif-5427878765847301485

[queen sphinx]

Shouldnt this be written as "dmg dealt BY enemies in a particular area increase by 30%"?
Instead its written as dmg dealt TO enemies
Doesnt that means the students will get extra dmg from the boss? Since enemies here refers to students, right?

Im quite confused

[merry thunder]

its not the best wording but

you gain the buff which makes you deal 30% more damage to enemies

[native ocean]

cuz we are their enemies

[queen sphinx]

Ive been told this too

And i was told that i should try and pop the red ball near my team

[merry thunder]

yeah thats why you see people wait to pop orb while its running over the team instead of right away

its simple, just kinda crappy wording on the tooltip

[queen sphinx]

I seee, thats so confusing words

Can they like improve or fix it?

[merry thunder]

a lot of sets wording is pretty awful

[queen sphinx]

Alright thanks

[late lily]

not just set

[queen sphinx]

Ill just ask again if im confused

[merry thunder]

set in particular has a lot of phrasing that sticks out badly

[late lily]

I prefer to rely on community resources

[queen sphinx]

I mean i need to do some research before asking , ive been told off so many times just bcz i dont read

[hushed sentinel]

Blue archive raid sometime don’t even tell you the boss mechanic

Say, like

Did you know hod have 90% damage reduction

But nothing in the raidtooltip/boss skill tell you that

[merry thunder]

well you can infer it

[hushed sentinel]

Or how hod enrages when low

All trial n error

[merry thunder]

what it doesnt tell you is how to deal with that

thats why my first ever raid i got bronze in asia

hod with no cc and probably no borrow

[native ocean]

Bronze

[half atlas]

My first raid i got diamond

[hushed sentinel]

Damn

He got top 1k

[wide orbit]

Guess i could do 103 if Yoshimi crit hard enough

[mystic stone]

😭

[uneven belfry]

This boss can piss off now

[clever blaze]

2dps still work on f104 (up nagi passive 8→10)

feel like kazu ue30 might dont have enough hp on f105(with my strat) but will try tmr

[late lily]

wtf I didn’t know dako could do so much damage

[spark epoch]

Yeah, D. Ako's basic can do some decent amount of damage (if not in the ATK-down zone).

[merry thunder]

sigh

any tips?

[hushed sentinel]

Upgrade ur hanako more

And watch video for heal timing

[native ocean]

Proly destroy orb with DHina instead

And swap Nagisa with O.Shig/SShizu?

Change T.Yuuka with like B.Airi/SNom/SIori (assuming no BKat)

[merry thunder]

dhina is fragile as hell

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV17z6xYCEDZ?buvid=XUC12E1C677F883B41B461F0F2C24A46B17AD&from_spmid=dt.dt.video.0&is_story_h5=false&mid=iKFbfmJlRi1%2BmfkxGgbqQg%3D%3D&p=1&plat_id=114&share_from=ugc&share_medium=android&share_plat=android&share_session_id=442bd730-0855-4b03-990e-6e331a3d9e18&share_source=COPY&share_tag=s_i&spmid=united.player-video-detail.0.0&timestamp=1735444217&unique_k=iiKwMk9&up_id=411336158

[minor sparrow]

Ended up not needing a borrow after all

[native ocean]

That's a long link

[clever blaze]

heal all full before spear hit you at around 1:10?

Proly destroy orb with DHina instead
<< oh right as Nekuro mention did you destroy red orb properly?

[merry thunder]

yes

dhina

[half atlas]

Cutting it way too close

[west tendon]

I guess that makes you a FoS(sil)

[half atlas]

I only started yesterday

[regal arrow]

change tyuuka with atsuko?

[merry thunder]

no atsuko

no oshigure

no bkazoo

[regal arrow]

bruh at least u a have iwak

so the problem is just at your investment

like ligma up your kotama hanako or dako maybe

[clever blaze]

what about last 200ms

[merry thunder]

eh 3* dako is fine

my problem is hanako ffs

[uncut lodge]

hanako eleph is sold at raid shop, so you can boost her after tomorrow's reset

[radiant canopy]

Fury of Shizuko

[wide orbit]

2 hours mald worth it

[spark epoch]

S. Eimi, too.

[steel totem]

can anyone help me with f24:')

i do not have a friend tat has

[clever blaze]

hm from floor 105 does boss get huge more amount of def or something?

my yoshimi from dealing 89m, now only deal 76m

floor 104 finish with 7sec left
floor 105 = boss has 100+ bars left