Basic Pycord Help

[echo wraith]

Yeah I fixed that I think

somewhere

sometime

[sage tendon]

first of all you should replace the permission check with @discord.default_permissions(administrator=True)

and guild_only is deprecated too

[echo wraith]

https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/pull/2650/files this ?

[errant trout]

oh that'd do it

figured it was being run in user context

[sharp pawn]

I've tried a couple of your suggestions but now the commands are beeing refreshed, tho i noticed one more thing, as u can see from the screen it shows that it has 1 mutual guild, but that one is my private server, so it's not showing the server where i added the bot

[sage tendon]

restart your client

[errant trout]

sounds like you didn't add the bot

make sure you use the bot scope in your invite url

[sharp pawn]

Ok it seems that this was the issue, thank you for the help

[errant trout]

allgood

[shadow sigil]

is it possible to make a command that requires an argument when used in the bot's dms but gives a modal instead when used in a server

[echo wraith]

you can't change the command's parameters between dm and non dm

but you can make it open a modal only in dms

[rugged wing]

I haven't touched my bot code in a while, I have a question about Cogs

I have one cog and there is a function outside of my class called setup(bot)
I thought I remember reading that this was required by Pycord to setup the Cog
But as I'm looking at the Cog documentation, I'm not seeing reference to this being necessary or even shown
Has this changed?

[errant trout]

it is required as documented under extensions

when you create a cog as its own file, pycord loads it via load_extension

[rugged wing]

I am seeing that now, thank you!

[shadow sigil]

is there a way to tell whether commands aren't showing up because i'm being rate limited or because i'm doing something else wrong

ok, i'm doing something wrong i guess

[rugged wing]

Any idea why Im not able to use self.bot.get_channel(channel_id) from within a Cog when outside of the cog it returns the channel just fine? I'm assuming it's some misunderstanding by me about the context of the bot within the Cog?

[errant trout]

do you mean in a cog __init__

[rugged wing]

I'm trying to grab it in one of the class functions outside of __init__

[errant trout]

or in your commands

[rugged wing]

It's in one of my commands which is a loop

[errant trout]

mmmm could you show the code

[errant trout]

if you haven't already, set up logging

[shadow sigil]

thanks i've already done that

[rugged wing]

class Test_Cog(commands.Cog): 
   def __init__(self, bot):                                                                             
        self.bot = bot                                                                                  
        self.rolecheck.start()                                                                         
        self.DEV_CHANNEL_ID = int(os.getenv('PERSONAL_DEV_CHANNEL'))
                                                                                                        
        # Testing, get_channel returns None                                                                    
        # Confirmed that channel id is as expected                                                         
        channel = bot.get_channel(os.getenv('PERSONAL_DEV_CHANNEL'))                                    
        print(channel)                                             

    #@tasks.loop(time=datetime.time(hour=17, minute=29))                                                
    @tasks.loop(seconds=10.0)                                                                           
    async def rolecheck(self):                                                                          
        update_users = get_misranked_users()                                                            
        output_message = self.format_users(update_users)                                                
                                                                                                        
        # Testing, get_channel returns None                                                                    
        # Confirmed that channel id is as expected                                                         
        print(self.DEV_CHANNEL_ID)                                                                      
        channel = self.bot.get_channel(self.DEV_CHANNEL_ID)                                             
        print(channel)                                                                                  
        #await channel.send(output_message)                                                                                                         
def setup(bot):
    bot.add_cog(TestCog(bot))

[little cobalt]

.tag get_x

[sly karma]

Any function that starts with get_ in Py-cord is retrieving the related object from your bots cache. If the object is not in the bots cache the get_ method will return None. Because of this behavior you should check if the get_x method is None and if it is use the fetch_x method.

Why Is Using fetch_ Without Using get_ First Bad?
The fetch_ method makes a call to the discord API. This API call is unneeded if you already have the information. It will also make your command take longer because it will have to send and than wait for a response from the discord API. It will also contribute to the discord APIs global rate limit of 50 requests per second.

What Is Cache?
The cache is a temporary storage inside your bot. It holds many objects from members to messages. When you restart your bot the cache will be empty. When the cache is full it will delete older objects to make space for the new objects.

[rugged wing]

Oooh that's interesting, thank you very much I will try it!

Seems like it works now, something like this?:

channel = self.bot.get_channel(self.DEV_CHANNEL_ID)
if channel is None:
  channel = await self.bot.fetch_channel(self.DEV_CHANNEL_ID)

[errant trout]

get_channel does not work in __init__ because cogs are loaded before the bot starts

[rugged wing]

Ahhh this makes sense

So then there's no reason to attempt get_x within cogs?

[errant trout]

only inside __init__ / any function that would run before bot.run

it's still fine inside command code, task loops etc

[rugged wing]

Oh that's true

because if the bot stays online it will likely be cached

[errant trout]

my personal preference is you define property inside your cog instead py @property def channel(self): return self.bot.get_channel(my_id)then you can access self.channel in your code, for example

@property basically makes an attribute that calls that function every time you access it

[rugged wing]

Oh very neat

it would still have to attempt to fetch though, right?
So it would have to be async?

[errant trout]

no?

[rugged wing]

uhh, don't you have to await the fetch?

[errant trout]

well you do, but moreso i mean you don't need to fetch at all

for small bots you can pretty safely assume you have all channels cached

[rugged wing]

But isn't that the issue I'm already running into, where it isn't cached?

[errant trout]

because you were running it in __init__ no?

[rugged wing]

No, it was ouside __init__ in my loop

I had it both in __init__ and outside for testing

[errant trout]

well you're also starting the task inside init

[rugged wing]

Ah

Can I just start the task in setup?

[errant trout]

some advice from the task docs is you wait_until_ready

[rugged wing]

I did see that in the before_loop, so that would ensure my channels are cached?

[errant trout]

yes because the task won't start until the bot fires the on_ready event

[rugged wing]

Ok that makes sense

[errant trout]

wait_until_ready is useful if you need to ever guarantee the bot has fully started first

[rugged wing]

So then I can leave starting the task in __init__

[errant trout]

that's pretty standard yea

[rugged wing]

Got it

Makes sense, thank you!

[errant trout]

allgood

[rugged wing]

Very nice, that worked great

[shadow sigil]

how can I add/use the same command group in multiple cogs?

[echo wraith]

that is not natively possible in py-cord, however you can take a look at https://github.com/Dorukyum/pycord-multicog

[shadow sigil]

[rugged wing]

If I have the name of an emoji is there an easy way to programmatically grab the id?

[errant trout]

check bot.emojis or guild.emojis for a specific guild
discord.utils.get makes this a bit easier (e.g. get(guild.emojis, name="..."))

[rugged wing]

get(emojis, name="") is exactly what I was looking for, thank you!

[shadow sigil]

is there something specific you gotta do to access the value of a modal input field?
my attempts are just giving None

[echo wraith]

could you share a little more on how you're doing that ?

[shadow sigil]

class SplashModal(discord.ui.Modal):
    """A modal for submitting a splash."""

    def __init__(
        self,
        *args: tuple[discord.ui.InputText],
        **kwargs: dict[str, str | float | None],
    ) -> None:
        """Initialize the modal."""
        super().__init__(*args, title="Submit Splash", **kwargs)

        self.add_item(
            discord.ui.InputText(
                label="Splash",
                style=discord.InputTextStyle.short,
                placeholder="Enter splash text",
                min_length=1,
                max_length=80,
            )
        )
``````py
    splash_modal = self.SplashModal()
    await ctx.send_modal(splash_modal)

    if not await splash_modal.wait():
        await ctx.respond("splash submission cancelled.", ephemeral=True)
        return

    splash_text = splash_modal.children[0].value

wait i may be wrong

misread my logs

well, different issue: the modal doesn't go away when submitted, and the cancel message doesn't appear when cancelling

[echo wraith]

Because you can't know when someone closes the modal

That's just a timeout iirc

[errant trout]

and you need to respond to a modal submission

[rugged lodge]

Here's the modal dialogs example.

[errant trout]

this includes an example for callback

[shadow sigil]

...so you're required to send a message for the modal to close?

[loud kayak]

how can i get a slash command group object by name and add a new command to it

[warm monolith]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/user#user-object In the Discord docs, the user has a primary_guild. Will the py-cord user also have a primary_guild in the next version?

[errant trout]

it will be, though it seems we might need a new pr for this

[warm monolith]

Need the tag for my feature.

[errant trout]

until then, you can get the raw data through await bot.http.get_user

[warm monolith]

don't want to call this again for every command

[errant trout]

you can always build the feature yourself

[warm monolith]

I think I don't know enough about py-cord for that

[sage tendon]

then wait until its part of the lib

[shadow sigil]

is it fine for a modal to just never timeout?

[errant trout]

you can set timeout=None

[shadow sigil]

ya but is it fine to do so

[errant trout]

if it wasn't fine we wouldn't let you do that

(tl;dr yes)

maybe if you have hundreds of modals at once it would theoretically be a memory bloat but that's a pretty peculiar scenario

[shadow sigil]

like i mean, you can set the timeout to none on http requests, yet that's still considered a bad idea

[errant trout]

well modals aren't http requests

[shadow sigil]

as in hundreds of different modals or the same modal?

[errant trout]

like a hundred users triggered modals at the same time

[shadow sigil]

hmm

[errant trout]

(quite frankly modals/views in v2 aren't designed well internally, but it's not gonna blow up your pc or anything)

[shadow sigil]

[warm monolith]

https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/compare/master...bastigamedc:pycord:feat/primary-guild

Was that it?

[errant trout]

that should be good enough if you just want it cached

[warm monolith]

okay than pr?

[errant trout]

well an actual PR will have more depth

i'm saying the code you've done there should be enough to have it available on your member cache without needing to fetch

[warm monolith]

But can I install this branch locally?

[errant trout]

oh yeah

something like pip install git+https://github.com/bastigamedc/pycord.git@primary-guild

[warm monolith]

Okay, I'll try it right away

I also use the containers, is it possible to use both?

[errant trout]

Yes because cv2 is on master now

[warm monolith]

oh nice

Since when?

[errant trout]

A few days ago? Maybe a week I forgot

[warm monolith]

Why no #library-updates announcement

[errant trout]

Because that's master, not a release

2.7.... soon, sometime

[warm monolith]

oh okay

https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/commit/b5b0bf27f3fe9034d42d347964b434451e666d38 I'm starting to understand it

[shadow sigil]

is this cursed

await (await ctx.author.create_dm()).send(f"submitted splash: {splash_text}")

[echo wraith]

You should probably not make it a oneliner

[errant trout]

you can just do author.send

[shadow sigil]

oh okay

i tried ctx.author.dm_channel.send initially and that gave me an error for none type

[errant trout]

it's because User.send calls create_dm if it isn't cached already

[shadow sigil]

fair enough

if i had a shot for every time god damn time i forgot to await a coroutine

[echo wraith]

if you set PYTHONASYNCIODEBUG to 1 in your env it will warn you when you forget to do so

[shadow sigil]

before or after i run the code

cause it is giving me these

RuntimeWarning: coroutine 'Interaction.respond' was never awaited
  splash_interaction.respond("submitting splash", ephemeral=True)
RuntimeWarning: Enable tracemalloc to get the object allocation traceback

[echo wraith]

oh then it's probably already set

maybe by some logging

or by vscode or your ide

[errant trout]

that's the default coroutine warning

[echo wraith]

yeah no wait

the asycio debug ones are different iirc

[frosty trellis]

Hi, I'm giving bot.get_message() a valid message id, but it doesnt return a message

the bot has access to the channel with the message and has all necessary privileges

[errant trout]

message isn't cached

[frosty trellis]

so, it’s not guaranteed to work with any message id?

[errant trout]

yes

[frosty trellis]

alright, thanks for the help

[errant trout]

in such a case you have to await channel.fetch_message(id) if you need to retrieve data from the message

if you only want to edit/delete, you can use channel.get_partial_message

[vital bramble]

Hi, does anybody know if it is possible to get the Join Method of a member, as shown in the "Members" tab of a server?

[echo wraith]

This is currently not officially available in the discord api and is thus not available in pycord

[vital bramble]

I was afraid of that, thanks anyway 🙂

[sage tendon]

you can use a workaround to get the used invite tho @vital bramble

[vital bramble]

Yeah with cashing the invites and checking which use has gone up, right? I don't really like that approach and it's also not really that important for me anyways.

[echo wraith]

https://docs.discord.food/resources/guild#supplemental-guild-member-object

this is not guaranteed to work at any time for any reaso but it exists

[vital bramble]

nice, thanks!

[viral plover]

def is_streaming(member: discord.Member) -> bool:
    """Check if a member is streaming on Twitch/YouTube. Must have 'Dino Hub' in stream title..
    Args:
        member (discord.Member): The member to check.
    Returns:
        bool: True if the member is streaming, False otherwise.
    """
    if not member.activities:
        return False

    for activity in member.activities:
        if isinstance(activity, discord.Streaming):
            if activity.platform in ['twitch', 'youtube']:
                if activity.name and 'dino hub' in activity.name.lower():
                    return True

Does this make sense for checking a user's status if they are streaming on twitch/YT and they have a specific keywod, dino hub in the title?

[errant trout]

looks fine enough? might need to check the casing for activity.platform

did a check on my members, it returns Twitch and YouTube

could just do activity.platform and activity.platform.lower() in ...

[errant trout]

for your bot? check dev portal

can't help ya then

[eternal kite]

how many servers do my bot have to be in to require sharding?

[lofty parcel]

It's not smart to say that here lol

[lofty parcel]

2.5k

It's when discord tells you to shard

You should probably start sharding before

[eternal kite]

if i dont it'll experience lag?

[lofty parcel]

You will be forced

Otherwise it won't let you connect

Against tos? There are staff here and people close to it in this server?

How is what working

For what reason

You won't get help on how to build a self bot

Well you're literally asking for help

"How to get user token" -> to put in a self bot -> to break the tos

You're not very smart are you

Doing it for the fun and giggles doesnt make it allowed

Using your user token outside the client itself is against the tos

There's nothing to study or practice about self bots.

So drop it.

You won't receive help about self bots here.

So stop pushing it.

You dont seem to understand that using your user token outside the client is against the ToS. You won't just funnily get your user token to look at it.

Again. Drop it.

The term platform abuse refers to activities that disrupt or alter the experience of Discord users. Sending unsolicited bulk messages or interactions (or spam) is one of the most common ways the user experience is disrupted. Spam can be sent by automated accounts designed for this purpose (spambots), normal user accounts that manually execute spammy actions, as well as by user accounts modified to perform automated actions (self-bots). Making modifications to the Discord client for the purpose of spam or any other reason is not allowed under this policy.

Oh wow!! They said user accounts can't be automated!! What would that mean? That you can't use your user token to perform actions on a code? Maybe!!

[unkempt cipher]

-ban 958077120612032612 Intend to selfbot -FO

[lofty vault]

🔨 Banned kartoshka_ma indefinitely

[little cobalt]

War schon kurz davor dich einfach mal zu pingen ;3

[unkempt cipher]

wurde schon

[little cobalt]

oh nvm xd

[frail basin]

Can this ever actually be None?

MessageReference class

[sage tendon]

I mean it says it can't

[unkempt cipher]

its null for channel follow add messages and a few other types

so yes

[silk spire]

You can see them all here https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/message#message-reference-content-attribution

[round heart]

WARNING:discord.gateway:Shard ID None has stopped responding to the gateway. Closing and restarting.
Killed

I can't tell if this is the product of the bot itself getting OOM'd, or the gateway no longer responding and something in pycord (or lower-level dpy) churning until death

[silk spire]

isn't that a discord thing where is wants you to reconnect or something

[torn barn]

yes

[round heart]

So is there a way to have pycord automatically do that?

[silk spire]

Does it not? "closing and restarting"

[jolly valley]

@round heart I've been running into something similar which is why I just joined this server. Are you experiencing bad states with your bot?

I found that someone under discord.py wrote this as an issue
Older ref: https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/issues/3994
newer ref with fix:
https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/issues/10207

but I am still encountering this issue with py-cord. Anyone ran into this before?

[echo wraith]

-remindme 30min bad gateway states ?

[lofty vault]

Set a reminder in 30 minutes from now (<t:1754422585:f>)
View reminders with the reminders command

[jolly valley]

also.. out of curiosity is py-cord a true wrapper or does it implement discord ? if so what version of discord?

Apologies for dupe questions if these have been asked before

[echo wraith]

py-cord is a library for interacting with the discord api, just like discord.py and others are. It doesn't "wrap" anything other thant the official discord api. I am not sure if this is your question, but py-cord is on API version 10

[jolly valley]

ah ok that makes sense. Yes that answers my question thnx @echo wraith

[echo wraith]

nw

Imma take a look at your issue later

[jolly valley]

awesome, I can provide more info just lmk

[torn barn]

i fixed it on the voice fix pr

[echo wraith]

oh k

-delreminder -a

[lofty vault]

Cleared 1 reminders

[echo wraith]

.tag master

[sly karma]

pip install -U git+https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord
-# Note: The Master Branch May Have The Newest Features But It May Also Have More Bugs
The docs for the master branch: https://docs.pycord.dev/en/master/

[echo wraith]

could you try with this ?

[jolly valley]

yee, gonna try now

[echo wraith]

perfect

[jolly valley]

it worked 😭 i could cry irl

thanks ya'll. you guys rock

been debugging this for a while now and couldn't find a way to replicate it, but it's behaving as it should from what I see. I'll drop in here again if I encounter any issues with it

[echo wraith]

sure no problem

[round heart]

I doubt it’s related to mine, since I don’t use voice chat

[round heart]

No. It just gave me that error, churned, and then got killed by out of memory manager

[old lantern]

Is anyone else still occasionally experiencing https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/issues/2799 on master?

[echo wraith]

Some people mentioned that in the issue

[old lantern]

And yet it's been closed and marked as completed. I'll try to get the logs the next time it happens

Any reason why a @bot.command won't get registered? The (changed) bot's been running for a few hours already

[echo wraith]

I think we misinterpreted it for another issue but there is still a PR open to fix it

[viral plover]

Thank you!

[sly karma]

Error

Flag 'delete' is required and missing

[old lantern]

Appears to be linked to PR #2800 which was merged

[echo wraith]

Ydah that was a mistake

[old lantern]

Which PR is the one that's supposed to solve it?

[echo wraith]

#2651

[rugged lodge]

https://github.com/pycord-development/pycord/pull/2651

[old lantern]

Thanks

[wheat tiger]

How did they manage to do this?

emoji on the left side of 2 text fields (or maybe one with \n)

also there is another accessor component (which is a button here)

[echo wraith]

it's four custom emojis

[wheat tiger]

oh now I get it lol

[fresh sierra]

that look fire btw

[wheat tiger]

yup

[wheat tiger]

also messy cuz, u need to maintain emojis

a big image split in 4 parts and uploaded to bot

then merge these 4 in a text field side-by-side to text

[errant trout]

eh they can just wrap it into a function and call it a day, easy enough to generate

in terms of pokemon they can upload 500 x 4 to the bot and then split the other 500 across servers. but that bot was only a proof of concept used for CV2 demonstration and not one of the huge pokemon bots

you can read the code for it here https://github.com/DV8FromTheWorld/discord-pokedex/

[silk spire]

Discord doesn't recommend doing that btw

It was just for the showcase

[vital bramble]

Why don't modals reset their _stopped future when resending them? Is that a feature or a bug?

[echo wraith]

modals are such a mess...

[vital bramble]

So there is no deeper reason behind that design choice?

[frail basin]

nobody thought of it most likely

[vital bramble]

I just don't want to break anything when I change it myself

[vital bramble]

yeah, probably 🙂

[lapis dock]

Im not sure if it is intended to reuse a modal instance

[vital bramble]

Then why is it so difficult to copy them?

Because there are definitely use cases where reusing makes it a lot easier/is necessary

[lapis dock]

Yeah, I guess there is nothing stopping you from doing that

I guess it was just an oversight :/

[vital bramble]

Well, there IS the question of WHEN the future should be reset. When the modal is sent or maybe even before that (directly after receiving it?). Maybe that was the problem.
But I also think, that the modals in pycord are not designed to be reused, but they should be.

[autumn gust]

why is this code throwing a AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'value' error?

[errant trout]

what's the full exception

[autumn gust]

wait that's from multiple reboots

Ignoring exception in on_connect
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\domin\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\site-packages\discord\client.py", line 412, in _run_event
    await coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\domin\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\site-packages\discord\bot.py", line 1214, in on_connect
    await self.sync_commands()
  File "C:\Users\domin\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\site-packages\discord\bot.py", line 742, in sync_commands
    registered_commands = await self.register_commands(
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        global_commands, method=method, force=force, delete_existing=delete_existing
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    )
    ^
  File "C:\Users\domin\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\site-packages\discord\bot.py", line 541, in register_commands
    desynced = await self.get_desynced_commands(
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        guild_id=guild_id, prefetched=prefetched_commands
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    )
    ^
  File "C:\Users\domin\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\site-packages\discord\bot.py", line 364, in get_desynced_commands
    elif _check_command(cmd, match):
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Users\domin\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\site-packages\discord\bot.py", line 278, in _check_command
    as_dict = cmd.to_dict()
  File "C:\Users\domin\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\site-packages\discord\commands\core.py", line 943, in to_dict
    "options": [o.to_dict() for o in self.options],
                ~~~~~~~~~^^
  File "C:\Users\domin\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\site-packages\discord\commands\options.py", line 358, in to_dict
    "type": self.input_type.value,
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'value'

there we go

[round heart]

"many people sharing one physical body" ... I saw a movie about that once >.>

[autumn gust]

oh please do not bring that movie up

it's such a bad portrayal it's laughable

[round heart]

Oh, I'm talking about the one I found in my dad's room

[errant trout]

you didn't type the user argument

(i think)

[autumn gust]

oh? what's the name of it?

I expected you to be talking about split, everyone brings it up

[errant trout]

i.e. either add a full @option decorator or just type it like user: discord.User

[lapis dock]

Defi...

[autumn gust]

ohh

[round heart]

😬 Sorry, I'm making an adult joke.

[autumn gust]

ah, I see.

[round heart]

I've honestly meant to watch this because it's supposed to be related to Unbreakable, which was.. mildly interesting

[autumn gust]

it's apparently entertaining just, not very good rep for did

[wheat tiger]

Oh, I though it is again some full blown Pokemon bot

[errant trout]

well it does as it's designed, but it was something made over an hour or so in a ddevs event stream and only covers the original pokedex

[wheat tiger]

yup I was in the stream ;-;

[errant trout]

ah ic www

[wheat tiger]

they were all yapping

[round heart]

It was interesting watching it get built. But sucks they had to be hacky with the images... should've been a learning moment that they should add a large image element on the left.

[errant trout]

their reasoning is that they're giving users control over vertical layout, while horizontal layout is strictly on discord

because they want to be somewhat vaguely consistent, though i can understand it being frustrating

[wheat tiger]

The schould actually add 2 more components

1. Positionable accessory components in Sections.
2. Horizontal text fields, just like fields in embeds.

[errant trout]

fields is not happening, they're considering maybe some sort of second column but that's about it

[wheat tiger]

Not a huge fan of horizontal fields but, like it was good feature

cuz on mobile it looks trash

[errant trout]

multiplatform is essentially the reason yeah

[wheat tiger]

when devs assume the gonna put 3 text fields horizontally, and later realize they all gonna be vertical and look more ugly on mobile 😔

[errant trout]

dv8 is pretty focused on accessibility and so the old methods embeds use is out of the question

[wheat tiger]

Imagine rewriting Dyno for the sake of cv2 💀

not a big deal cuz most of dyno's setting are on Dashboard

[errant trout]

eh they could get away with most of it

[autumn gust]

ah I'm looking for the wrong thing, I'm basically looking to mention myself (user of the slash command), while this is an option selector for a user, what do I use then?

[wheat tiger]

pain will occur in economy and fun type bots, with huge amount of embed styling and emojis

[errant trout]

then remove the user arg, you're looking for ctx.author

[autumn gust]

ah, thanks

[errant trout]

allgood

[errant trout]

well it's not like embeds are being removed, they just aren't getting new features

[wheat tiger]

• boring, like we're playing the API game since years 💀

we should get some more things to tweak

[errant trout]

there will be

[autumn gust]

huh

[round heart]

As long as they continually update cv2, it's fine. But I will probably continue using Embeds for more simplistic stuff.

[errant trout]

no... your function already has ctx as the first argument

you just reference that in your code

[autumn gust]

ah

OH

[errant trout]

yeah LOL

[autumn gust]

oh my god I'm stupid I'm so sorry lmaoo

[errant trout]

no worries

[autumn gust]

turns out all of this was for nothing, footers can't ping anyway

[errant trout]

oh LOL

gotta use -# in description or something

/ whatever your last field is

[wheat tiger]

;-;

[errant trout]

what the hell, sure

[autumn gust]

funnily enough my fields are perfect length to be side by side

so even that wouldn't work

[errant trout]

new field with name="", value="-# some text"

[wheat tiger]

🙃

[autumn gust]

true, let me try that

[wheat tiger]

I thought like lets create one )_)

[errant trout]

ah no it's cool dw

[autumn gust]

yeaaaah

[errant trout]

inline=False

[autumn gust]

and that's perfect, thanks!

[errant trout]

allgood

[lofty parcel]

Lmfao

[wheat tiger]

#general message star it to send that to #starboard ;-;

[red cedar]

for some reason my embed paginator is returning ‘this interaction failed’ after changing the page? pages work fine but getting that annoying little message for no reason. no error shown in console too. https://paste.centos.org/view/ce36c168

[lofty parcel]

You're not responding to the interaction

[sage tendon]

do you know there's a prebuilt thing for pagination

[lofty parcel]

You're updating the cached message

And yeah, you could use the built in paginator

[red cedar]

thank you both ^

[fluid lark]

Why is it that when I run

vc = await ctx.author.voice.channel.connect()

The bot just hangs until it eventually times out?

[lapis dock]

It is probably due to a bug that has been fixed on the master branch

[sly karma]

pip install -U git+https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord
-# Note: The Master Branch May Have The Newest Features But It May Also Have More Bugs
The docs for the master branch: https://docs.pycord.dev/en/master/

[fluid lark]

Just installed the master branch version but it still does the same thing, where the bot connects to vc, but does nothing after that and times out

[lapis dock]

Do you have any errors?

[fluid lark]

Thanks for wanting to help, I took a break for a while and just came back to it not timing out anymore 😅

I'm not sure why

But I didn't change anything and it just started working

[lapis dock]

Might have been discord having temporary issues

Yup
https://discordstatus.com/incidents/js2f68mctrtc

[fluid lark]

I'm going to keep this link in mind for future reference lol

Thank you

[fresh sierra]

-help

[round heart]

Is there a good way of deleting a small number of messages at once?
There's a channel.purge() but seems to require a check function.. is there any way to pass in a list of message ids or something?

[fresh sierra]

it does not requiered a check

but you could use channel.delete_messages

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.TextChannel.delete_messages

[round heart]

Ah-hah. Thank you

[valid panther]

Is there any way to detect messages from voice channels?

[frail basin]

Doesn't on_message detect them?

[valid panther]

nop 🙁

[frail basin]

Do you have the messages intent enabled?

[sage tendon]

does pycord even support that yet
or did that release after 2.7

[torn barn]

it does not need to support it

it’s just doing VoiceChannel.send

as long as VoiceChannel is a Messageable

[valid panther]

For example, if I want to create a command to delete text messages from either normal chat or voice channel chat, should I also include VoiceChannel?

[sage tendon]

see if voice channels appear that way

[echo wraith]

Pycord should already support that afaik

[sage tendon]

and you dont need required= if its true

[valid panther]

That work good

[sage tendon]

does it not show voice channels with just TextChannel?

[errant trout]

no because they aren't TextChannel

[sage tendon]

could you do it with channel_types?

[vernal fiber]

any ideas for features for my bot

[round heart]

Isn't there a generic class that includes TextChannel and VoiceChannel etc? 😐

[sage tendon]

Messageable ig?

but thats a bit broad

[echo wraith]

abc.GuildChannel maybe?

[lapis dock]

That would include category and more if I am not mistaken

[echo wraith]

You're right

[silk spire]

abc.VocalChannel is a thing iirc?

There is abc.Connectable

[lapis dock]

But they want text channel as well

[errant trout]

why is this even still being discussed, the answer is channel_types

[lapis dock]

I don't even know what the original question was XD

[silk spire]

same

[echo wraith]

Idem

[upbeat remnant]

Hey guys, I have something weird going on.
One of my cog's is constantly asking for the ctx parameter when calling the command in discord, but it's not happening for any of my other commands.

It's only happening with this one cog, and I'm not sure what I'm doing to cause it. Source added as image 'cause too poor for Nitro xD

[echo wraith]

.tag paste

[sly karma]

Please copy and paste your code here. This makes it easier for everyone helping you.

[upbeat remnant]

https://mystb.in/819395ea47cfb560d0

[little cobalt]

Something like that is pretty hard to read ;3

[upbeat remnant]

Yeah, sorry. Slow brain in the morning didn't think of that. Link provided 🙂

[little cobalt]

I see you import CommandGroups from a cog?

[upbeat remnant]

Yeah, I didn't know multicog was a thing, so I've been using a little hacky approach. Will be converting to multicog soon.

[little cobalt]

Py-cord got something for that

.tag multicog

[sly karma]

To split slash command groups across multiple cogs with Pycord, you can use pycord-multicog. Install it via pip install pycord-multicog. Initialize your bot by using from pycord.multicog import Bot. Define command groups in one cog and extend them in others using @subcommand. For example:

# Cog1.py
class Cog1(commands.Cog):
    group = SlashCommandGroup("group")

    @group.command()
    async def subcommand1(self, ctx):
        await ctx.respond("This is a normal subcommand.")

# Cog2.py
from pycord.multicog import subcommand

class Cog2(commands.Cog):
    @subcommand("group")
    @slash_command()
    async def subcommand2(self, ctx):
        await ctx.respond("This subcommand is in a different cog.")

[upbeat remnant]

The issue I found with multicog was adding subcommand groups.

Example:
All RSS related commands are in separate class files within the same module folder.

The rss command group is defined in rss_feeds.py along with a subcommand group, feeds resulting in the command /rss feeds add, etc.

I then want to create, in the template cog, the /rss template subcommand group.

Either way, as far as my understanding goes, I'd still need to import another cog to access the rss command to then add a subcommand group, or is my understanding incorrect?

Unless I define the subcommand group in rss_feeds and then use the @subcommand decorator to add the commands to it, I guess. Brb, giving it a try

[fresh sierra]

Bahahaha

[fresh sierra]

Whats ur issue i dont get it ?

Is it to use group and subgroup ?

If yes you should just do
subcommand(group subgroup) with a space between

[upbeat remnant]

Original issue was that commands when used in discord were asking for the ctx parameter (ApplicationContext) but only for the one cog.

[fresh sierra]

Can you show me ur code ?

Are you passing self outside a cog ?

[upbeat remnant]

https://mystb.in/819395ea47cfb560d0
Not that I'm aware of. Other than the command methods featuring self as the initial param.

[fresh sierra]

Ur not using the subcommand from the multicog here

I don’t think also at the end you need the bot.add application vommand

If ur using bot.load_extension

[upbeat remnant]

I wasn't using multicog at all this morning, so that might be the issue. I'm currently refactoring to use multicog 🙂

[fresh sierra]

Then to use multicog you need to stop importing the group, and just add the subcommand decorator

Create all of ur group in one file which will be run before all the other cog

[upbeat remnant]

OKay, I'll give that a try and come back if the problem persists. Thanks.

[uncut quartz]

after i've deferred a response, is it possible to then respond with just a view? (for components v2)

when I try, i get the error about the existence of content / embeds

[lapis dock]

can you share the error, you should not be having this issue unless you are actually supplying content or embeds

[uncut quartz]

one sec, lemme recreate it rq :)

[errant trout]

it sure would be a shame if i messed up the validation somehow

[uncut quartz]

one sec for the code

[errant trout]

reinstall

or rather, install master

[uncut quartz]

alr one sec

awesome, it works!! tysm <3

[errant trout]

allgood

[patent meadow]

im having an issue running the example code on the github page. It doesnt seem to register a command for me. Is there something special I have to do other than run this with the bot in my server?

import discord

bot = discord.Bot()

@bot.slash_command()
async def hello(ctx, name: str = None):
    name = name or ctx.author.name
    await ctx.respond(f"Hello {name}!")

bot.run("token")

im using python 3.13.5 and created a fresh venv with only pycord installed

did discord break the api recently maybe?

[torn barn]

refresh the discord client

[patent meadow]

i spent..... too long before asking for help

thank you lmao

[torn light]

https://docs.disnake.dev/en/stable/ext/commands/api/app_commands.html#disnake.ext.commands.Param
Please tell me the equivalent of this in pycord. I am writing autocomplete
-# Please ping me when you reply to me. I use a translator and can't see all messages

[rugged lodge]

Here's the slash autocomplete example.

[echo wraith]

Take a look at the above

[torn light]

Okay.
Thanks.
If there are any other options, please let me know.
-# Please ping me when you reply to me. I use a translator and can't see all messages

[eternal kite]

can there be two selects in one discord message?

[errant trout]

Up to like, 20

[eternal kite]

thanks

[errant trout]

But if you go above 5 selects, the library will switch you to CV2 which will disable content and embeds

[eternal kite]

alr

[placid ferry]

        embed = discord.Embed(
            title=f"[{artist_name} in {ctx.guild.name}]({artist_url})",
            url=artist_url,
            color=discord.Color(0xFFFFFF),
        )

im hoping this is fine? its still dpy but this server is far more helpful than the dpy one

[errant trout]

title won't take markdown

[sage tendon]

breh

[errant trout]

you only need the visible text, url will do what you want

[sage tendon]

consider switching to pycord :>

[placid ferry]

ye i forgot to remove it, noticed agfter running the command

[placid ferry]

😭 i would if the bot im working on wasnt too far into its progress

i regret not starting with pycord at the start of it

[sage tendon]

switching isn't much effort, from experience

[placid ferry]

😭 ive never switched thats the issue though

[sage tendon]

all the core stuff is the same, the only difference are command decorators, and maybe options? but not sure there

[placid ferry]

ayye it works now

[placid ferry]

oh yea decorators is a thing i rely on

[sage tendon]

oh you're using a client mod that's why I thought it looked like cv2

[placid ferry]

LMFAO

[sage tendon]

well yea but it's basically just changing the name to another if I remember right, and not needing a lot of weird stuff like manual syncing and stuff

ig read the guide and you can tell how much is different, been a long time since I used dpy

[placid ferry]

i'll def look into it then once im done workjing on this cog (unfortunately might take all day since I have to test it on production instead of my testing bot)

[sage tendon]

plus everyone here will help you if you have problems switching to pycord :3

[placid ferry]

_< good to know; this server does seem to have alot better of a community

do you know how to fetch the artist cover art for lastfm? ive never been able to get this to work for some album covers and artist cover art

but fmbot seems to have no issue with it

[sage tendon]

there's probably an API

[placid ferry]

im using their api thats the thing

but

[sage tendon]

ah
well then it's somewhere in there surely :)

[placid ferry]

it doesnt seem to fetch all the cover arts

part of me wants to look thru lastfms repo and see since its oss but at the same time its .NET and C# and i dont know jack abt either

[sage tendon]

you are reading their docs right

[placid ferry]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... ofcc

[errant trout]

what are you using LOL

[sage tendon]

docs are the key to using any API or package

if you don't read docs you're screwed usually

[placid ferry]

for the music fetching?

[errant trout]

yea

[placid ferry]

last.fm

[errant trout]

yeah but like

is it a python library, or are you using their api directly

[placid ferry]

OH

pylast

and

their api

so kinda both

[sage tendon]

[placid ferry]

i use pylast for the authentication stuff i think thats all though

the rest os their api

yea

so

[sage tendon]

we'll go through their API docs and you'll find it somewhere 100%

[placid ferry]

literally one thing uses pylast

        self.network = pylast.LastFMNetwork(
            api_key=self.api_key, api_secret=os.getenv("LASTFM_SECRET")
        )
        self.db = None

just this

[errant trout]

so like, is the request not returning an image at all or does it return some generic url

[placid ferry]

😭 my nightmare

[sage tendon]

well as I said as a developer you read docs or you'll be in huge pain

[placid ferry]

they have a generic image if the cover isnt fetched properly

one second

[errant trout]

i mean lastfm docs are pretty simple https://www.last.fm/api/show/album.getInfo

[errant trout]

then you probably can't circumvent it unless you wanna use another service's api

[placid ferry]

this

[errant trout]

i.e. if lastfm themselves isn't returning it then you kinda just have to roll with it

[sage tendon]

well if that's the image returned by the API I guess you're out of luck

depends if multiple requests have the right picture sometimes and sometimes default, that'd be something to look into

like for the same song

[placid ferry]

so i checked the url, and whatever lastfm uses https://i.scdn.co/image/ab67616d0000b2732d4aa8abd5ebeb4657e609e0 is what the url shows for the current song, so its not from lastfm so i guess i'll check that

hmmmm

ion even know what this thing is

[errant trout]

that's spotify's cdn LMAO

[sage tendon]

wow

[placid ferry]

wait really??

OH

scdn

[sage tendon]

so chances are the given album is not on Spotify or smth lol

[placid ferry]

im slow

no the url i sent

is how fmbot shows it

[sage tendon]

oh

[placid ferry]

which is the correct cover

my bot on the other hand

it sends this https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/300x300/2a96cbd8b46e442fc41c2b86b821562f.png

😭 jus realized thats a really long subdomain

[errant trout]

maybe just print the raw request data and see what it looks like

[sage tendon]

https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/300x300/2a96cbd8b46e442fc41c2b86b821562f.png

hm

[placid ferry]

star

[sage tendon]

are you sure the album has art on lastfm

[placid ferry]

it does not

[sage tendon]

well there you go

[placid ferry]

i figured that out after you told me it was spotifys cdn that url belonged to

or

nelo

[obsidian stratus]

How do we use the new copy text feature in components v2?

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord-master

discord.ui.View.copy_text

[echo wraith]

the above

[obsidian stratus]

Do we also have Container.copy_text

[errant trout]

yes

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord-master

discord.ui.Container.copy_text

[obsidian stratus]

Oh okay, thank you 😃

[errant trout]

View.copy_text will copy the contents of all TextDisplay items in your View, including Containers and Sections

this is the same behaviour as Right Click -> Copy Text on CV2 messages

[obsidian stratus]

Ohh

[placid ferry]

@errant trout can footers have hyperlinks in CV2?

[echo wraith]

footers don't exist in cv2

[placid ferry]

oh

[echo wraith]

also no need to ping Nelo someone will reply

[echo wraith]

instead you can use the -# syntax

[placid ferry]

sorryyy

[echo wraith]

-# some link

[placid ferry]

😭 yea smb just told me the same so'

[echo wraith]

use this

[placid ferry]

can i

do them under footers

[echo wraith]

-# [some link](https://discord.com)

[placid ferry]

or does footers stay at the bottom

since its a footer

[echo wraith]

There's no such thing as footer in cv2, again

it's just text

[placid ferry]

I'm not using CV2 rn so thats why i was asking

[echo wraith]

in normal embeds you can't

[placid ferry]

fawk

oh well

[placid ferry]

yayay, i finally figured out the spotify api stuff

[lofty parcel]

Compact mode dang

[brazen mango]

I use compact mode and light mode

[shell radish]

by using light mode, you are contributing to global warming

[wheat tiger]

using light theme is a sin

[viral plover]

Anyone know how to get everyone in a Discord server with a specific tag / every member who has the server tag applied

[sage tendon]

bot.http.get_user(uid)["primary_guild") i think

you will need to iterate through everyone, its not in 2.6 (obv), and im not sure if master has it properly built in
but that is the way i did it

[viral plover]

Saint if this works- I have a client wondering if he can make giveaways exclusive to server tag holders

[viral plover]

Is it available in another branch or PR?

[sage tendon]

i really dont follow the PRs or what happens on the master branch, no idea

[viral plover]

Works with master- ty

[sage tendon]

well this will also work on 2.6
i just meant on master it might be actually part of a Member object which would make it way easier to use

[echo wraith]

Easier to select and reroll automatically to avoid ratelimits in that case

[sage tendon]

yea its not properly on master yet either

[viral plover]

yea I think we are just gonna check when they sign up and when the giveaways rolls

[echo wraith]

Makes sense

[normal iris]

Hi, is py-cord compatible to python3.13? Because i had issues with the audioop library being deprecated

[lapis dock]

You need to use the master branch for 3.13 support. Or you can install audioop-lts

[normal iris]

Aight thx, so it will be in the next release?

[sage tendon]

yes

[patent meadow]

Im trying to change the message the bot says when it defers a command. is this possible?

@bot.slash_command()
async def defer(ctx):
    await ctx.defer()
    time.sleep(3)
    await ctx.followup.send("Done!")

Right now it says Bot is thinking...

[errant trout]

you cannot change this message

also never use time.sleep with a discord bot, you should import asyncio and await asyncio.sleep instead

[patent meadow]

thank you ill do that

[patent meadow]

im having trouble using asyncio.to_thread(). I want to make the docker sdk async but just for testing im using still using time.sleep()

@bot.slash_command()
async def defer(ctx):
    await ctx.defer()
    await asyncio.to_thread(time.sleep(3))
    await ctx.followup.send("Done!")

this throws discord.errors.ApplicationCommandInvokeError: Application Command raised an exception: TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable

[errant trout]

for to_thread (or run_in_executor under the hood), you do not call the function. you pass the function as the first argument, then its args/kwargs after

e.g. in this example it would be (time.sleep, 3)

[patent meadow]

thanks again

[brazen mango]

Wouldn't it be simpler to just use await asyncio.sleep(3) instead?

[errant trout]

yes, but they were just using time.sleep as an example here

[tardy bluff]

When using the basic slash commands example no slash commands seem to be available. What am I doing wrong?

@bot.command(description="Sends the bot's latency.") # this decorator makes a slash command
async def ping(ctx): # a slash command will be created with the name "ping"
    await ctx.respond(f"Pong! Latency is {bot.latency}")```

[echo wraith]

.tag slashnoshow

[sly karma]

Application Commands Not Showing Up?

• Refresh Discord by restarting or pressing Ctrl+R (or Command ⌘ + R)
• Uninstall libraries that conflict with the discord namespace (e.g. discord.py).
• Invite your bot with the application.commands scope.
• Load cogs before bot.run() (e.g. not in on_ready).
• Do not override on_connect.
• Update to the newest version of py-cord (see ?tag install).
• Turn off User Settings > Accessibility > Chat Input > Use legacy chat input.
• Share your code and errors.

[tardy bluff]

Ah, I just needed to refresh discord

[flat wind]

Hello !
Is it possible to call something like self.my_function in an autocomplete callback ?

[frail basin]

Just make the autocomplete part of the class

[flat wind]

okay got it, thanks !

[sage tendon]

I am trying to do a generic "redo command" view that i can just add to the end of views, and which will just re-call the command. I've got this far

However, the invoke constantly throws this error despite ctx.command being set properly inside of the original command callback. how?

[edgy nest]

command is a property

save it from the old context and reset it when the button is pressed

[sage tendon]

save it where? in the init?

[edgy nest]

https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/blob/e1814cce4bb7ed54d970ac5fe6900f8e65bb1879/discord/commands/context.py#L133

[edgy nest]

sure

or just before you change .interaction

[sage tendon]

holy fucking shit that was all i was missing

thanks

[edgy nest]

👍

[sage tendon]

now :) next lil problem
the command im invoking may defer at times - but since its intended for a slash command context, it doesnt pass invisible=False
is there a way to force this without changing the command code?

[edgy nest]

subclass context to do it for you :3

[sage tendon]

okay erm
it all works like i want now, but i can only re-run the command once x3
the second time around, i get the same error with command being none

[terse zephyr]

How can I make it so I can run a command from my bot in any dm, not just a dm with the bot? Some apps I have installed allow me to run their commands when I’m talking with friends in dms, but mine doesn’t. How do I do this?

[errant trout]

you need to install your bot to your user account

make sure it's enabled on dev portal, then grab your bot's install URL and add &integration_type=1

[terse zephyr]

Ok I'll try that

[errant trout]

something like ```
https://discord.com/oauth2/authorize?client_id=BOT_USER_ID&integration_type=1&scope=applications.commands

[terse zephyr]

that worked but its not showing up when i type /

in a dm

the bot IS running

[errant trout]

reload discord, but you also may need to specify your command can be used on a user installation - in your command or slash_command decorators, you need integration_types

[rugged lodge]

Here's the slash users example.

[terse zephyr]

oh i see

[tidal vessel]

Hi guys, I have a question: how can I get a user's banner in the server where the command is used? In the documentation, it says to use fetch_user() and it works, but it returns the global banner, and I want to get the banner the user has set in the server (in case they have Nitro).

I tried with Member but it returns None Can someone explain this to me better? Or maybe I missed something else in the documentation.

[errant trout]

guild_banner and display_banner are available on Master branch (same usage as guild_avatar and display_avatar)

[tidal vessel]

perfect, thank you

[lethal loom]

Hi, how we become a new pyxord update wirh the New functilnallyties

[echo wraith]

Soon ™

[wide jasper]

Hi guys, is it possible to check if someone has the "guild tag" like in my case in the image "QKZ"

[sage tendon]

yes
if you're on 2.6 it's a bit hacky tho

bot.http.get_user(id)["primary_guild"] I think

[echo wraith]

get user

But yeah that's it

[cerulean laurel]

where do i put the "timeout=none" thing

if i do discord.ui.View(timeout=none) in the first yellot brackets my bot crashes

[sage tendon]

pass it to the super init

and it's detailliert :)

[cerulean laurel]

sry what?

[sage tendon]

pass timeout=None to the super init call

[cerulean laurel]

so "super(timeout=None).init()"

[sage tendon]

no, to the init

[cerulean laurel]

so after the init

[sage tendon]

super().__init__(timeout=None)

to the init

[cerulean laurel]

oh thx

also my code crashed and it said it can only have 2 positional arguments but 3 were given

[sage tendon]

show the traceback and your code

[cerulean laurel]

Thats the crash if u mean that:

Ignoring exception in view <Annehmen_Button timeout=180.0 children=1> for item <Button style=<ButtonStyle.primary: 1> url=None disabled=False label='Annehmen' emoji=<PartialEmoji animated=False name='😎' id=None> sku_id=None row=None>:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Python\Python313\site-packages\discord\ui\view.py", line 426, in _scheduled_task
await item.callback(interaction)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TypeError: Annehmen_Button.button_callback() takes 2 positional arguments but 3 were given

[sage tendon]

oh, yea, you are missing the button argument in your callback
it goes between self and the interaction

[cerulean laurel]

button argument?
sry i had a break and just came back to my bot

[sage tendon]

just add it between the self and interaction arguments of the button callback

[cerulean laurel]

i mean how do you write this argument

[sage tendon]

just button or something

the name doesnt matter

you can also name it _ if your IDE says you aren't using the argument

[cerulean laurel]

sry i cant follow you

got it thx

[flat wind]

Hello !
About this in the API. Am I wrong or is it just impossible to create a forum thread ?
Here in the docs we have the "content" value : https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/models.html#discord.ForumChannel.create_thread
I also have this error when I try with "content" variable : In message: This field is required

But if I try with message :
TypeError: ForumChannel.create_thread() got an unexpected keyword argument 'message'.

Am I doing something wrong ?

[sage tendon]

show your code

[errant trout]

can't repro

the argument is indeed content, not message

[frail basin]

show your code

[flat wind]

if channel.type == ChannelType.forum:
                    new_thread = await channel.create_thread(
                        name=translated_name[:100] if translated_name else thread.name[:100],
                        content=starting_message,
                    )
                        
                else :
                    # Create the thread in the target channel
                    new_thread = await channel.create_thread(
                        name=translated_name[:100] if translated_name else thread.name[:100],
                        message=starting_message,
                        auto_archive_duration=thread.auto_archive_duration,
                        slowmode_delay=thread.slowmode_delay,
                        invitable=thread.invitable,
                        type=thread_type,
                    )

[errant trout]

do you have the full traceback/error, and what pycord version are you on

[flat wind]

no I don't, I have the HTTPException (I am not at home rn, I will have it later). And I am on pycord 2.6.1

[errant trout]

oh wait

[errant trout]

what is starting_message

because you're using it in both content and message, which is wrong

content in ForumChannel.create_threadshould just be a string, while message in TextChannel.create_thread is expected to be a full message

(because you don't create forum posts from an existing message)

[flat wind]

oh okay !! that's why ! mb

[errant trout]

allgood

[flat wind]

will check it but it should be it

[sage tendon]

anyone know how i can shorten this without killing readibility

Also I think master has a bug, I (obviously as you can see) have a banner, but member.display_banner is None for me

does indeed print None when used on me even though i have a banner

I think the issue is that the banner (according to the docs) is only available via Client.fetch_user, and well, that cant work for Member. The lib currently doesnt fetch the user object when realizing there is no guild-specific banner, it just returns it from the user object within member (if you know what i mean) where it is not if it hasnt been fetched

should i make this a github issue

[tidal vessel]

I think it's an API issue. I tried getting the Member object from a server by making a direct request to the Discord API, and the banner is None

I don't understand this

[silk spire]

The guild specific banner is given over the gateway IIRC

the global banner needs to be fetched yes

[sage tendon]

Yea so first of all discord should get its shit together
but it is a lib oversight that the user isnt fetched before returning the (not cached) banner

[silk spire]

The lib shouldn't fetch or cache it when it can't update it imo

[tidal vessel]

So is there a way to get a member's banner? Not the global banner.

[sage tendon]

member.display_banner

but itll be none if there's only a global banner

yea i think ill make a github issue brb

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord-master

discord.Member.guild_banner

[tidal vessel]

But it is None, also as I said I tried with the API and it still returns None in the banner, it is very strange or maybe I am doing something wrong, I don't know

[silk spire]

You sure the user had a guild specific banner? And did you fetch member or user

fetching member doesn't return the global banner

[tidal vessel]

The banner appears here but it returns None (I tested it with a user who has Nitro)
Do you know about this?

[silk spire]

That's Guild.fetch_member yeah

[sage tendon]

https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/issues/2866

[silk spire]

Did you fetch is via pycord?

[tidal vessel]

Use both methods, from the library and using aiohttp

And it doesn't work

I don't understand

[errant trout]

can't repro?

oh display_banner

ah

eh......

[sage tendon]

:3

either the library forcefully fetches it when querying display_banner, or the docs need to be updated, or the name should change

[errant trout]

pretty sure it's because the member banner is overriding the user banner

[sage tendon]

wdym?

[errant trout]

but avatar is designed in the same way so maybe not...?

[sage tendon]

remember User.banner is only available on fetch

and as far as i could tell the lib returns member.display_avatar or user.banner (whatever it is called exactly in the code)

and since the banner isnt cached cause it wasnt fetched, 💥

well not boom but None

[errant trout]

we will keep display_banner because fetch_member does return user.banner, but add a warning on docs saying the behaviour is different from cached members

then just fix the issue with fetching member not storing user.banner properly

[sage tendon]

wait so
the intended behavior is now having to fetch the member then?

[errant trout]

yes

(after it's fixed)

[sage tendon]

ok thx

i think my first proper bug find :3

[silk spire]

It does?

Oh it does now

Finally

[sage tendon]

Is there some more space saving way to do this? I haven't done that much with CV2 yet but I've always done it like this so far, and bigger CV2 views take up quite a lot of space like that

or better, is this even the intended way of using it or is the container.add_x the intended solution

[silk spire]

You can use the add methods but imo your current code looks better

view = discord.ui.View().add_item(
    ui.Container(color=...).add_text(
        "Hello world"
    ).add_item(
        ui.MediaGallery().add_item(
            "url here"
        )
    )
)

Or maybe defining them separately cleans it up a bit

container = ui.Container(...)
container.add_text("...")

gallery = ui.MediaGallery()
gallery.add_item("url")
container.add_item(gallery)

view = ui.View(container)

[fresh sierra]

looks good to me

[hard haven]

What is the best way to restart a bot using a command?
Tank you!

[fresh sierra]

the question is why do you want to restart the bot ?

.tag restart-cmd

[sly karma]

The only good way to restart your bot is to shut it down and have your process manager handle it. You can shutdown your bot by running Bot.close().

Do use

• Run your bot in a process manager such as:

• Systemd
• Openrc (Gentoo, Devuan)
• Runit (Void Linux)
• Supervisord
• Upstart (Old Ubuntu)
• Docker

• Manually reboot it

Do not use

• A bash loop (it can eat your C-c by rapidly spawning python and if your bot fails it won't stop it from constantly failing)
• subprocess.call (you will eat your memory up by not letting your old processes die)
• os.exec
  Tag Credit: discord.py server

[hard haven]

Yes, but I use Windows...

[fresh sierra]

No but why

To sync the command ?

because you might not even need to restart te bot to do what you want

[hard haven]

I am creating a text-to-speech bot and would like to restart all related programs.

[fresh sierra]

coulnt you do manual restart ?

[hard haven]

It's a little difficult to connect to the server running the bot, so I'd like to restart it remotely using a command if possible...

[fresh sierra]

what are you using to run the bot ?

[hard haven]

    Python v3.12.10-final
    py-cord v2.6.1-final
    aiohttp v3.12.15
    system info: Windows 11 10.0.26100

[sage tendon]

oh huh I didn't think about chaining it, forgot that works
might become quite spaghetti for a big view tho

[sage tendon]

why do you need to restart it though? chances are you can do what you want to do without a restart

[frail basin]

Run it in docker and just exit(1)

It will detect that it "crashed" and restart it

Systemd works too

[hard haven]

OK,I'll try!
Thank you!

[sage tendon]

qwq

why restart tho

[frail basin]

Would it cause isses if I called bot.add_view on the same view twice?

[echo wraith]

.tag tas

[sly karma]

https://tryitands.ee/

[echo wraith]

Nah but honestly

ViewStore is such a mess

[frail basin]

as far as I can tell from looking at the library code, the second call should override the first

[echo wraith]

I have absolutely no fuckery of an idea

[frail basin]

the custom ids and the message id are the same so it looks fine?

I basically want to add a command that reloads all persistent views from the database

[sage tendon]

I still have yet to find out what custom IDs are even for

[fresh sierra]

nope

doing that since a long time and never had any issue with it

[silk spire]

That and the component_type is all Discord sends about the component with the interaction create event when someone uses your interactable components

• https://discord.com/developers/docs/components/reference#button-button-interaction
• about custom id: https://discord.com/developers/docs/components/reference#anatomy-of-a-component-custom-id

The lib then needs to find the corresponding item and view with the same id and dispatch it accordingly

[sage tendon]

so i guess the library tracks which view object was sent with what message, and so that works even if you dont add the view to the bot & set custom IDs?

[silk spire]

Yeah the lib stores all views until the timeout

[sage tendon]

My bot automatically colors embeds (and now CV2 components) via a user's accent color.

Now, i noticed that someone who has an entirely purple profile has this color as accent_color
why is that? doesnt the custom-set theme color override that? second screenshot is their profile

[errant trout]

if im not mistaken, accent_color also requires fetching

[sage tendon]

im already doing that, dw

im just wondering why it seems to be, well, wrong

[torn light]

I want to use message_command on servers where there is no bot. Is this possible, or am I misunderstanding something?

[rugged lodge]

Here's the slash users example.

[sage tendon]

breh how do you all remember all the examples and tags

[errant trout]

eh i just used it the other day

[errant trout]

install the bot to your user with integration_type=1 in your oauth url, and refer to the example above to set a command as user installable

[errant trout]

ah, accent_color is their banner colour

not profile colors

[sage tendon]

Yea, but their banner is nowhere near that color either qwq

[errant trout]

it may be whatever they have set under their image banner

[sage tendon]

(its purple)

wdym

[errant trout]

if you don't have an image banner set

[sage tendon]

oh right
oof, so discord doesnt use the banner or profile color when you have a custom banner... and to change that color you need to delete your banner.. god that is dumb

[errant trout]

yeah it's a tad convoluted

[sage tendon]

i wish we could just access the profile theme colors

[errant trout]

this also returns None if they're using the automatic banner colour based on their PFP

[sage tendon]

accent_color? oh ffs

[errant trout]

yep

if they're a member, you could try fallback to Member.color to get their guild role rolour

or run some img library to pick a colour from their pfp yourself

[sage tendon]

yea ill have to see if it works for most people or if i need to change it
thx

[errant trout]

allgood

[tribal magnet]

can I get help?

discord.ext.commands and discord.commands are very confusing.

When creating a Cog file:

from discord.ext import commands

class Name(commands.Cog):

On the other hand, when creating a slash command in same file:

from discord.commands import slash_command

@slash_command(...)
async def ...

I want to understand the difference between the two.

After reading the docs, it seems that Cogs only exist in discord.ext.commands.
However, slash commands are available in both.

[errant trout]

No, cogs work for anything

ext.commands is a legacy part of the library that existed BEFORE discord added slash commands

Slash commands are fully compatible with functions in ext.commands, but it is not required

[rugged lodge]

Here's the slash cog example.

[errant trout]

That example, and several of the others in that folder, should demonstrate different usages of slash commands

[tribal magnet]

thanks. so, according to what you said, does that mean I don’t need to use discord.ext?

[errant trout]

If you do not want to make prefix commands (e.g. !help) then yes, it is not required

[tribal magnet]

oh yes, I want to use only slash_command. then can I use class Name(discord.Cog): to class, and from discord.commands import slash_command?

[errant trout]

Yep (you can also just shorten it to from discord import slash_command)

[tribal magnet]

oh wow, Thanks very much, clear now.

[errant trout]

[tribal magnet]

Can I ask one more question?
There is commands.NoPrivateMessage() in my code , but I found in the docs, it seems to exist only in discord.ext. What should I do in this case?
It looks like commands.CommandInvokeError can be replaced with discord.ApplicationCommandInvokeError

[errant trout]

you can still use that with slash commands

from discord.ext.commands import NoPrivateMessage etc

...though, that's not a very good answer from me

what you really want is contexts

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.SlashCommand.contexts
discord.SlashCommandGroup.contexts

[errant trout]

this will let you restrict it to a certain context, e.g. discord.InteractionContextType.guild

[tribal magnet]

I think there’s really no need to insist on avoiding discord.ext.
That was my mistake. It was helpful, thank you

[errant trout]

no worries

[sage tendon]

I'm trying to convert an automatic slash command generator to using groups

At the end, I have self.bot.add_application_command, do i still need that when i already add it to an existing group?

[fresh sierra]

How do you add it to the group ?

[sage tendon]

well

[echo wraith]

well

[sage tendon]

it is actually erroring tho so 1s

yea i cant do that

do i just need to add the groups as commands, once they're done?

[fresh sierra]

you could do group.add_command(command_function) instead of the self.bot.add_application command

if ur current solution is not working

[sage tendon]

oh yes

1s

[fresh sierra]

on my side, im doing that:

[sage tendon]

nope, doesnt show up

okay hold the phone, i got a 400 error

something is getting to discord

[sage tendon]

transgender is one of my subcommands

[fresh sierra]

dont do both group command and group.add_command

group command will try to add it too i think

[sage tendon]

which then

[fresh sierra]

if the 1st one is not working with group.command maybe only the group.add_command

[sage tendon]

oh fuck yea it works

thx

also something i learnt: if a group has no subcommands, it acts as standalone command

[fresh sierra]

like

command_function.cog = self
command_function.parent = group
group.add_command(command_function)

[sage tendon]

so gonna explode the command limit

200 right?

[fresh sierra]

100

but a group count for 1 command

[sage tendon]

oh goood

this little code to create like 40 commands lol

[fresh sierra]

just for you know its 25 options for each group

component v2 ?

[sage tendon]

yea its like 15 each

[sage tendon]

yes

completely unnecessary for this but :3

[fresh sierra]

command looks strange asf

like just sending a view

seems off

[sage tendon]

well

its just 3 command groups (i forgot one) that uses the api there to apply all kinds of filters

and well, you only need the url for that

[fresh sierra]

no but ur code is normal

its just that im not used to just sending a view instead of building embed or smth like that

i wonder how it will looks like with view less component

[sage tendon]

well im constructing the cv2 components inside of the view

[fresh sierra]

yeah ik

[sage tendon]

ngl i kinda dislike that single images also need to be wrapped in a mediagallery

[fresh sierra]

tbh i find component v2 a bit wierd

like all you need to do so simple things

embed are so much easier so having to switch make me feel soooo lazy

[sage tendon]

final result

[fresh sierra]

maybe a suggestion but putting it in grey might look better

since he is in jail

[sage tendon]

dont make me chain the URLs, its gonna be like 300 chars lol

[wheat tiger]

What extension are u using?

[errant trout]

that's just an option in pycharm

forgot what exactly though

[wheat tiger]

I thought its vscode ;-;

[errant trout]

nah toothy hates vsc

maybe you could find an extension that does something like that? but i wouldn't know

[wheat tiger]

du use vsc?

or u too hate it ;-;

[errant trout]

Nah I don't mind it

I do all my pycord PRs on github.dev which is a browser version of VSC (vscode.dev) with proper github integration

Too lazy to open a desktop IDE

[frail basin]

Vsc also has it

[wheat tiger]

yep got it

[lofty parcel]

Wait is it an option

Or an extension

[wheat tiger]

option

search of inlayHints in settings, there are many options to tweak for every supported language

[lofty parcel]

Fun. Thanks lol

[wheat tiger]

I am keeping it disabled lol, its making my large codebase look horrible

[sage tendon]

default ass pycharm that is

it only shows sometimes tho (else it'd be clutter) but I haven't found the rule yet

[wheat tiger]

inlay hints

[lapis dock]

The one downside is it makes your lines longer than the max line limits, without actually doing so.

[echo wraith]

@frail kayak What distro are you on ?

[frail kayak]

windows, not linux

[echo wraith]

https://git-scm.com/downloads/win

[frail kayak]

i installed but still

[echo wraith]

• Did you restart your terminal
  If yes and still doesn't work:
• Did you restart your computer

also

.tag venv

[sly karma]

Sometimes you want to keep libraries from polluting system installs or use a different version of libraries than the ones installed on the system. You might also not have permissions to install libraries system-wide. For this purpose, the standard library (as of Python 3.3) comes with a concept called "Virtual Environment"s to help maintain these separate versions.
The main benefit is to avoid package conflicts and unnecessary packages

Read more in the guide

[frail kayak]

yeah i hate venv

[echo wraith]

you should use it, still

[sage tendon]

venvs are very useful

[frail kayak]

turned off some programs, restarted terminal and it worked, thanks

[echo wraith]

i'd go as far as saying they are necessary

[sage tendon]

not if you only have one project

[echo wraith]

yes if you only have one project

[frail kayak]

I do not disagree its useful and necessary just sometimes have troubles with this "concept"

[sage tendon]

if you use a proper IDE you don't even have to think about it

[echo wraith]

try taking a look at uv, you might enjoy it

[frail kayak]

i use one linux daemon (cant use other) that might create its own venv, and might launch .py file with already existing one

and it does it when it wants

if only you've seen my face trying to install packages properly that day I setup it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-berg-cat-orange-cat-swimming-gif-25177582

anyway thanks for help, gotta go enjoy cv2

[echo wraith]

have fun haha

[sage tendon]

what

[cerulean laurel]

what does that mean/what do i have to change?
discord.errors.ExtensionFailed: Extension 'cogs.sendsomething' raised an error: ValidationError: Command names and options must follow the regex "^[-_\w\d\u0901-\u097D\u0E00-\u0E7F]{1,32}$". For more information, see https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/application-commands#application-command-object-application-command-naming. Received "Send Embed"

[echo wraith]

Needs to be lowercase I think and no spaces

[cerulean laurel]

ok but why

i mean the reason why i used the extra name thing was to make it big and with space

[echo wraith]

Because discord doesn't allow it to have spaces

[cerulean laurel]

and no way to bypass that with unicode or smthing like that?

[echo wraith]

I didn't think so. You should probably take a look at https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/application-commands#application-command-object-application-command-naming

[sage tendon]

not without subcommands

[cerulean laurel]

and whats the difference of bot.create_group and discord.SlashCommandGroup?

[echo wraith]

One adds it to the bot the other no

[cerulean laurel]

oh ok thx

[sharp pawn]

Hello, i know this question is not directly linked with pycord but did someone had issue with aiohttp blocking the event loop when it raises an aiohttp.ConnectionTimeoutError?

This issue is occurring in production enviroment, initially it happened every 24 hours more or less, to try to solve it i added a custom session:

import aiohttp

_session: aiohttp.ClientSession | None = None


def get_session() -> aiohttp.ClientSession:
    global _session
    if _session and not _session.closed:
        return _session
    timeout = aiohttp.ClientTimeout(total=30, connect=10, sock_connect=10, sock_read=20)
    connector = aiohttp.TCPConnector(limit=100, ttl_dns_cache=300)
    _session = aiohttp.ClientSession(timeout=timeout, connector=connector)
    return _session

async def close_session():
    global _session
    if _session and not _session.closed:
        await _session.close()
        _session = None

This change seems to work just fine but today the issue appeared again after 5 bot working days

Here you can find the logs: https://pastebin.com/d4E52uEL

After this error occurs it seems like my main loop gots blocked, i can't invoke commands and no errors are shown when i do, the bot responds with interaction error like if the bot is offline, even if so i still got logs from background activities like scheduled cogs and tasks

(More or less the bot sends 80+ request per hour)

[rugged lodge]

https://pastebin.com/raw/d4E52uEL

[flat wind]

Hello !!
Is it possible to connect to a new shard without restarting the bot ?
I saw the AutoShardedClient.get_shard() and the discord.ShardInfo.connect() but if the new shard does not exists when the bot started, the get_shard will just return None. Am I wrong ?

I get a new shard every week / 2 weeks and currently restart the bot after I get a new shard. I would like to avoid the downtime by adding a new shard without restarting the bot

[lofty parcel]

I doubt its possible since you provide the shards amount when connecting to the gateway

[sage tendon]

Yea I also would think its not possible. But this made me think: How do huge bots like dyno do it? Their growth is quite steep, and they cant be restarting every 1000 guilds (or whatever the shard max is)
So there surely must be a way

[lofty parcel]

Dyno deploys multiple pods

That handle a set of shards

[shell radish]

pods

[lofty parcel]

Idk that's what they call them

[hexed herald]

maybe smth special for them, large bot's have some extras, don't they?

[shell radish]

probably just an dyno thing. It’s like youtube calls it subscribers while other platforms calls it something else

[hexed herald]

¯\(ツ)/¯

[errant trout]

The next step after shards is usually "clusters" of shards

[flat wind]

once you join 150k servers, Discord give you a number of shards and it does not change

https://discord.com/developers/docs/events/gateway#sharding-for-large-bots

[echo wraith]

Kubernetes

[lofty parcel]

Yeah i think they're just that lol

But they call them pods

Or i think pods deploy and manage the clusters

Some Kubernetes shit

[round heart]

gesundheit

[valid panther]

Do users who use commands in discord.InteractionContextType.private_channel need permissions to view emojis?

[sage tendon]

No

is that a user app? might be a discord bug

[valid panther]

Yes, it works correctly on the server, but in private conversations it only works on the button. It's very strange.

[sage tendon]

thats cv2 right?

there is currently a known bug where bots can use any emoji sent with cv2 buttons

so what you have with the emojis in the text might be a side effect of that

[valid panther]

and there is no effective solution for that at present ?

:((

[sage tendon]

can you try send those exact emojis with a regular text-only response?

and see if it still happens

[valid panther]

My emojis are currently uploaded to the server, but my idea is to upload them to the app in the future, where you can have up to 2k emojis. But since it's a bot and not a team, the trial version or stable version remains the same.

[valid panther]

I can try it, I guess you mean outside of embed

[sage tendon]

just a pure ctx.respond("<emoji>")

in a message without cv2

[echo wraith]

-Remindme 3d wtf

[lofty vault]

Set a reminder in 3 days from now (<t:1756135129:f>)
View reminders with the reminders command

[sage tendon]

you and your reminders

[echo wraith]

:)

[frail basin]

am I safe to do this to generate mock users?

user = discord.User._copy(bot.user)
user.name = "MockUser"
user.global_name = "AmoxMockUser"