Basic Pycord Help

[nocturne jewel]

on_guild_boost?

[fresh sierra]

on guild update

and check for the number of boost

[nocturne jewel]

ah :(

[wide jasper]

is it possible to get guild data from a autocomplete func discord.AutocompleteContext?

so i can return like [role for role in ???GUILD??? if role.id in allowed_roles and role.name.startswith(ctx.value.lower())]

[sage tendon]

yes, check https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/application_commands.html#discord.AutocompleteContext

[wide jasper]

i tried it over the interaction attr interaction.guild but it didnt work

[sage tendon]

"didn't work" means what?

[lapis dock]

is this a guild install command or a user install command?

[wide jasper]

im so fck confused, it worked now

i got list index out of range first

i dont know how and why

[sage tendon]

show and we can help

[wide jasper]

print(f"[DEBUG] guild: {ctx.interaction.guild}") this is what i did now and it gives me the guild object ✅

but before i asked here i tried it already and it gave me the "list index out of range" error

very weird

[lapis dock]

If you can reproduce the error it might be useful for a bug report because nothing in the snipets you provided would lead to that error

[wide jasper]

i have no idea how this error is supposed to have come about... the guild attribute is not a list

[wide jasper]

i know, i will check if i can reproduce it

[wide jasper]

as i found out, i cant return discord.Role objects from the AutoComplete? is there a other way to only show specific roles in a slash option?
if use discord.Roles, it shows all from the guild

[sage tendon]

make it string optionchoices and let the values be their IDs

that's the only real workaround

[lapis dock]

^ this would also allow users to copy paste the ID if they want

[wide jasper]

lol true, any way to fix this?

[sage tendon]

fix what

that's not an error that's a feature

you have to validate the input anyway, autocomplete doesn't validate anything

[grizzled loom]

why change it? you can work with an id

[fresh sierra]

I think he meant only use the role like choice

And not let the user add new things

[grizzled loom]

alright

[sudden star]

hello, im having problem with SlashCommandGroup. when i used the "commands.Context" on ctx im having a problem.

[errant trout]

wrong typehint; either remove it entirely, or use discord.ApplicationContext

[sudden star]

thank you

[lapis dock]

@devout badger it is only on master as of now
https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/pull/2501

[sly karma]

1. Uninstall discord.py or any other forks of discord.py you might have with the namespace discord.
python -m pip uninstall discord.py discord -y

2a. Install py-cord
python -m pip install py-cord

2b. Update py-cord
python pip install -U py-cord

Installing other builds:
Note: You need to have git installed. Use ?tag git to find out how to install git.

Updating the module to master branch (unstable):
pip install -U git+https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord

[lapis dock]

Master branch install ^

[teal vine]

Hi,
I have started programming again after a long time and wanted to rewrite my discord.py bots to pycord. In doing so, I have already encountered some errors that I don't know how to fix.

If I have the following function:

await bot.change_presence(
 activity=discord.Activity(type=discord.ActivityType.watching, name=f "about {server_count} server"),
 status=discord.Status.do_not_disturb)

then pycharm gives me the following error: Expected type ‘Status | None’, got ‘str’ instead

The status does not change either. Can someone help me here?

[sage tendon]

pycharm has been a little odd on the latest update

it detects enum values (Status is an enum) wrong when passed to (correct) arguments

its just a pycharm bug

[teal vine]

Oh, that's right. The fact that the status hasn't changed was down to me. Sorry about that.

[sage tendon]

i get the same with bucket types

its a really dumb oversight imo

[teal vine]

Okay thx. :D

[sage tendon]

oh i didnt even see it didnt work first lol

also you have a space after your f of the f string, dk if that breaks it

[teal vine]

WTF? Okay i will try it.

[sage tendon]

yea that breaks it, you cant have a space between the f and the "

[shadow sigil]

i expect the answer will be no, but is it at all possible for a command to have some sort of image preview or whatever based on the arguments you've put in

[sage tendon]

no

[shadow sigil]

alright

[hexed herald]

hi, is there any hosted documentation of the components-v2 branch?

[errant trout]

all PRs have doc previews https://pycord--2707.org.readthedocs.build/en/2707/

[hexed herald]

alright, thank you!

[brave ice]

does py-cord[speed] already include uvloop?

[sage tendon]

install it, then install uvloop, and see if its already installed

[round heart]

No. https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/blob/master/requirements/speed.txt

[sage tendon]

wow lol i figured itd be more

[lapis dock]

I have a utils file that allowed me to create common "types" of embeds easily. Now that I am converting to components v2. I would sometimes combine an embed and a view, now I would not be able to do that

async def error(traceback: str, **kwargs) -> discord.Embed:
    e = discord.Embed(color=0xFF0000, title="Error")
    e.set_footer(text="Report This In The Support Server")
    e.add_field(inline=False, name="Error:", value=traceback)
    return e

I have 2 options:

• Accept a view argument async def error(view, traceback: str, **kwargs) and put the given view "below" the rest
• Make a util function to add together 2 views
  Opinions?

[errant trout]

i was kinda tempted to overload the + operator to allow you to combine view children

though i think with how children work the old view on the right side of the operation would lose its ability to run callbacks

[lapis dock]

that would be ideal, if the callbacks could be saved

[sage tendon]

I might be very confused what the actual topic is but I find overloading + really bad practice
it should rather be done with a function

[lapis dock]

I guess the other problem would be timeouts and other methods in a subclassed view

[silk spire]

It's do able using setattr

Timeout shouldn't matter I think

I had written the following 3 years and afaik it did work
https://mystb.in/60dc827b98ff08e0dc
for dpy but should be the same

I was planning on releasing it as an extension hence the whole documentation and stuff

[edgy nest]

view.steal_children(view2)

[sage tendon]

..adopt..

[lapis dock]

[unkempt totem]

Hello, is the version of pycord in the main branch stable? That is, if I use it in production, it won't break at some point.

[sage tendon]

the github master branch should never be considered stable

[lapis dock]

It is pretty much stable as of now though, just make sure you don't auto update on master branch

[sage tendon]

yea if you do it at all, bind to a specific commit
and even then, bugs can definitely still happen more frequently than on actual releases

[echo wraith]

In general yes, rn no

[round heart]

Three different answers. Awesome

[errant trout]

well i guess they're not wrong

• generally speaking, master should be considered breakable at any time
• at the current moment, to our knowledge there are no issues
• if you do decide to use master, it's better to bind to a commit to avoid unintentional updates (and this is good practice for anything you stick in requirements.txt, version binding is cool)

[fresh sierra]

why is there no get_emoji method ?

is it intended ?

[echo wraith]

Idk

[humble turtle]

?tags audioop

[limber wagon]

There are no tags that match your search.

[humble turtle]

?tags

[distant owl]

Audioop?

[round heart]

.tag audioop

[sly karma]

Pycord 2.6.1 may work with Python 3.13, but it is not officially supported and can cause various issues. Until Pycord 2.7 includes official support for Python 3.13, it is recommended to use a previous version.

For voice features in Pycord versions before 2.7, you might need to run pip install audioop-lts. Some users have reported issues with voice features when using Python 3.13, so ensure that you clear the __pycache__ and .pyc files before running your bot.

[round heart]

That one?

[humble turtle]

Yes thanks

[errant trout]

wdym

[fresh sierra]

There is a guild.fetch emoji but not a get emoji

[errant trout]

it's bot.get_emoji

[echo wraith]

All snowflakes are unique and not bound to anything else in principle

I think

[errant trout]

some minor exceptions but yeah

[fresh sierra]

Yep but why isn’t there a get emoji for guild ?

So I can add in my pr guild.get_or_fetch(discord.GuildEmoji, id)

[errant trout]

idk they just didn't think there was a point

if you really want we could add it but it'd be rather useless

[fresh sierra]

So I could just add the get method also in my pr or it’s just useless

Ig it might be useful, I’ll see to add it inside my pr

[errant trout]

you could also literally just do bot.get_emoji(...) or await guild.fetch_emoji(...)

[echo wraith]

yeah like the older servers and their default channel e.g.

[fresh sierra]

Ik, I do that inside my code

But Bob ask for a feature for a better get or fetch

So I just made one using their suggestion and old commit

[fresh sierra]

idk why i thought that, there is one

well it was and then it has been removed

[subtle moth]

Hello, the docs say discord.Interaction.user will be None in PING interaction? What does ping interaction mean and how is it done? https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/models.html#discord.Interaction.user

[lapis dock]

I believe the ping interaction is for bots with interaction URLs, I dont believe users have to do anything with it unless they want. It is a way for discord to know if your bot is online

[subtle moth]

oh okay so in regular slash commands / buttons etc it is guarenteed to not be None right?

when they are ran

[lapis dock]

yeah

[subtle moth]

alr thanks

[hexed herald]

hey, how do the ids in the components v2 work? are they per interaction? Like when my bot is chatting with one person and has 3 components, numerated 1,2,3 and chatting with a second person do they share the component ids or not?

[errant trout]

ids are per message

[hexed herald]

okay, thank you!

[wheat tiger]

Is there any way to get emojis, only emojis uploaded to the discord bot?

[echo wraith]

You mean app emojis ?

[wheat tiger]

yep

[echo wraith]

Yes but only on the latest git master version

.tag install

[sly karma]

1. Uninstall discord.py or any other forks of discord.py you might have with the namespace discord.
python -m pip uninstall discord.py discord -y

2a. Install py-cord
python -m pip install py-cord

2b. Update py-cord
python pip install -U py-cord

Installing other builds:
Note: You need to have git installed. Use ?tag git to find out how to install git.

Updating the module to master branch (unstable):
pip install -U git+https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord

[echo wraith]

The last one here

[wheat tiger]

is that in dicord.Bot class?

(in master branch)?

[echo wraith]

yes

[fiery fable]

do sku's have to be fetched with bot.fetch_skus()? or are they chached somewhere? because when i call bot.entitlements() the Entitlement has only the sku_id and not the name or something else

[fresh sierra]

are you on master ?

because i think there is a lot of issue about entitlment on 2.6

[fiery fable]

2.6.1

[fresh sierra]

well i cant really help you with that, but for sure someone will

[flat wind]

you have to fetch the skus, then save them in variables if needed

[viscid fractal]

How to make it so that a command can be only used by a member with a particular role?

I've gone through the docs but I couldn't find anyhting

[fresh sierra]

has_role

or has_default permission

or just from discord settings

[viscid fractal]

i don't understand the ctx.author stuff

pycord

[rugged lodge]

Here's the slash perms example.

[fresh sierra]

this is for permission

else you have

[viscid fractal]

oh okay

[little cobalt]

What do you not understand at the ctx.author stuff?

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.ext.commands.has_role
discord.ext.commands.bot_has_role
discord.ext.commands.has_any_role
discord.ext.commands.bot_has_any_role
discord.ext.commands.Group.has_error_handler
discord.ext.commands.Command.has_error_handler

[viscid fractal]

like it's related to context or something and it gives info about the author and guild

i don't understand much about async def tbf

[fresh sierra]

you should first learn python

[viscid fractal]

i do

[fresh sierra]

.tag lp

[sly karma]

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[viscid fractal]

but

api

[little cobalt]

def and async def is pretty much the same at the end, one is asyncio and the other is not

[viscid fractal]

oh okay

i know like the basics of api

like the basic requests.get(url) and then u get it into a json

is that enough

or should i know mroe

[little cobalt]

requests is not asyncio

[viscid fractal]

yea hwo to learn that

[little cobalt]

so it would block the whole bot

[viscid fractal]

asyncio

[viscid fractal]

no, see what i mean is

i know the basics of python

like functions classes and stuff

would that suffice

[lapis dock]

You should set this up via the discord UI.
Server Settings -> Integrations -> Your Bot -> Your Command -> Set everyone to cannot use and your role to can use

[viscid fractal]

okay

[lapis dock]

This way you do not have to change the code or create your own permissions system

[sage tendon]

The one thing you need to do most importantly is to read the docs, and not ask every single question here which is easily findable with the docs, because it slows both you and us down

[viscid fractal]

i've been reading docs, i just couldn't find the roles here and that is why i asked here

[sage tendon]

what roles

[viscid fractal]

nono

like

uh only a perrson with certain role should be able to u se a paritcular command in the bot

i couldnt find that in documentation

[sage tendon]

do what wolfy said for that
you can technically do that using a check but for slash commands, the way wolfy said is much preferred

[viscid fractal]

ah ok

[slender lantern]

Confirming: webhooks can't reply to messages, only send new messages?

[round heart]

I don't see any source message context in the webhook params https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/webhook so not even 'reply by reference'.

[slender lantern]

As I feared! Alas. Thanks

[flat wind]

they can send, edit and delete messages (only for messages sent from that webhook)

[red mist]

Ok so freshly installed py-cord;

ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'audioop'

trying to generate a template bot using;

import discord
import os # default module
from dotenv import load_dotenv

load_dotenv() # load all the variables from the env file
bot = discord.Bot()

@bot.event
async def on_ready():
    print(f"{bot.user} is ready and online!")
         
@bot.slash_command(name="hello", description="Say hello to the bot")
async def hello(ctx: discord.ApplicationContext):
    await ctx.respond("Hey!")

bot.run(os.getenv('TOKEN')) # run the bot with the token

the literal example on the guide

and it fails using the error shown in the beginning

[distant owl]

Just for sanity what python version u got?

[sage tendon]

install audioop-lts

[sage tendon]

3.13

[red mist]

thanks lol

[red mist]

3.13.1

[red mist]

Im guessing it has something to do with newer python versions?

[distant owl]

audioop Deprecated since version 3.11, removed in version 3.13

[red mist]

Ah-

[sage tendon]

and Pycord still relies on it

[red mist]

oof

[sage tendon]

one more reason for 2.7

but at this point I legit gave up hope

if I need something really bad now I'll switch libraries

[red mist]

💀

2.7 will come though, no?

[sage tendon]

yea, but my patience is nearing its end

[red mist]

I mean it all depends on lala soooooooo

[sage tendon]

it shouldn't

[fresh sierra]

not really

it depends mainly on the reviewer

if they can all review all pr and add it to the master

[sage tendon]

and who can make a pypi release?

[fresh sierra]

2.7 will come faster

[fresh sierra]

before making the release all review has to be made

[red mist]

it shouldnt but sadly she's the only one who can because theres well bob who's inactive a lot

[frail ocean]

Is pycord already support the component stuff?

[lapis dock]

No, but it is avalable in a PR

[sly karma]

Components V2 are under development in pycord and aren't yet included in the official releases on PyPI or the master GitHub branch. However, you can access the features now by installing directly from the pull request #2707. To do this, use the following command: pip install git+https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord.git@refs/pull/2707/head Please be aware that this is a development version and may contain bugs, feel free to report them by adding a comment to the pull request.

[echo wraith]

@eternal kite

As Luma said, you should check wether you don't have unnecessary intents.

[eternal kite]

the intents im using is just members intent and that's all

the issue is that the memory usage starts from 100mb when i restart my bot, and it gradually increases to 1gb if i didnt restart it for a couple days, so im assuming it's the commands used by players which caused the memory usage to increase

[echo wraith]

#1316463699518816287 this may be related

[echo wraith]

It can just be the cache

[eternal kite]

and my commands doesn't store anything as well

[echo wraith]

members cache can get quite big depending on how many members there are

[eternal kite]

i only chunk members when necessary

[echo wraith]

Can you run this code as used by the other member after using the bot a little and letting it run ?

import gc

        leaked_objects = [obj for obj in gc.get_objects() if isinstance(obj, discord.ui.View)]
        print(f"Leaked Views: {len(leaked_objects)}")

I wanna see if it is an issue with views or not.

maybe also take a look at this: https://github.com/bloomberg/memray

[eternal kite]

alr I'll try it once im home

[lapis dock]

You can also look into https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/data_classes.html#discord.MemberCacheFlags but I am not sure if 8000 users would be that much

[errant trout]

8000 members is pretty small to be using 1gb ram, but it is 700 servers so i suspect it's higher than that...?

[eternal kite]

it rises to around 80 but decreases back, and it never surpass 100

[eternal kite]

8000 is the chunked members

[eternal kite]

i perform a lot of pil manipulation, could that be it?

[fresh sierra]

Ig they might be the resin

[eternal kite]

do i have to use image.close() every time after using it?

i thought it gets deleted when the function finishes running

[sage tendon]

if you open a file you have to close it unless you use a context manager which you absolutely should

[frail ocean]

Okaay thanks.

Btw is there a way to get the person which triggered the / command from an other bot?

[lapis dock]

It should be in the interaction meta data

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/models.html#discord.Message.interaction_metadata

[fresh sierra]

Wait how can you know if someone trigger a slash command from another bot ?

[sage tendon]

the message has an interaction object lol

and its not from your bot

[fresh sierra]

whattt

didnt now that

good to know

[frail ocean]

I’ll check. Thanks

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.components.SelectMenu
discord.components.SelectOption
discord.Message.components
discord.AutocompleteContext.interaction
discord.Interaction.is_component
discord.InteractionType.component
discord.SlashCommandOptionType.integer
discord.SlashCommandOptionType.mentionable
discord.SlashCommandOptionType.attachment
discord.ext.commands.HelpCommand.send_bot_help
discord.ext.commands.HelpCommand.remove_mentions
discord.ext.commands.HelpCommand.get_destination
discord.ext.commands.DefaultHelpCommand.indent
discord.ext.commands.DefaultHelpCommand.shorten_text
discord.ext.commands.DefaultHelpCommand.add_indented_commands

[lofty parcel]

@ebon swift #app-commands

[ebon swift]

sorry >< (can't delete)

[sage tendon]

or just use the website..

and yes, you can delete it.

[fresh sierra]

how ?

[sage tendon]

like any other message

[fresh sierra]

you cannot delete a command from a bot

[sage tendon]

yes, you can

oh wait you are right wtf

[lapis dock]

pretty sure you cannot, might be different for user apps

[sage tendon]

did they change it??

[fresh sierra]

never been able to do that

[sage tendon]

yea it only works for user apps

mb

[errant trout]

they actually did briefly allow you to delete your own command responses on guild apps, but it got huge pushback and was reverted

[sage tendon]

ahh

[glossy wraith]

I’m trying to make a basic ass starboard bot, how would I check for messages in all channels for a star reaction? I’m blind and probably aren’t seeing smth lmao

[errant trout]

you should use the on_reaction_add listener

[glossy wraith]

Thanks for the link to the docs :D

lemme get to work

[lapis dock]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/events.html#discord.on_raw_reaction_add
This as well for when the message is not cached

[glossy wraith]

followed yt thing for some guidance, i fetched the message and it.. gave back nothing?

[round heart]

What comes after that..? You're putting things into variables but you don't show what you're doing with it

[glossy wraith]

im stupid sorry 😭

[round heart]

Well it looks like it at least understands that the message was starred. Are you sure the message that was starred had content? (e.g. wasn't a message with only an embed)

[errant trout]

probably don't have message_content intent

[round heart]

Ah-hah ,I always forget about intents

[lean garnet]

Hi, is there any way to check someone's tag with pycord ?

I'd like to unlock special features to member who are using my tag on my server

with a bot that can add/remove a specific role to users according to their tag

[sage tendon]

It's not in the API

and honestly I hope it doesnt get added

[errant trout]

I think clan related stuff was at some point? decent chance we see the new boost features on api but no guarantees

[glossy wraith]

HOLY SHIT THANKS SO MUCH

[sage tendon]

https://docs.discord.food/resources/user#primary-guild-structure not officially documented though

you can probably somehow get it with a raw api request but no guarantees

[sage tendon]

@lean garnet

thats how to get the tag, there's a few more things about it if you print raw_user["clan"]

[lean garnet]

Thank you very much, I'll use this !

[sage tendon]

keep in mind it could break anytime

because its not documented

i do expect them to update the "clan" thing to something different

itll probably be under a different name

[lean garnet]

yeah I see, it's only for my server for now, not a public bot (or at least not yet)

so if it breaks it won't be a huge issue

[sage tendon]

will be None if there's no tag btw, so no need to check for none exceptions

or rather no attribute* whatever you know what i mean

[lean garnet]

I see, thanks

[sage tendon]

KeyError

thats what i meant

because the tag key will always exist

[echo wraith]

Is there an event for unhandeled interactions ?

[sage tendon]

wdym

[echo wraith]

like if I have a view with custom ids

and no persistent view registered

[lapis dock]

No, you would have to override on_interaction

[glossy wraith]

hai so thsi is probably youtube tutorial/me being a dumbass syndrome but, my app doesnt respondd when i do the slash command and select a channel, any ideas?

[echo wraith]

you should defer your interaction

at the top of your function

await ctx.defer()

[glossy wraith]

now he thinks for eternity 😭

[frail basin]

If the cursor.fetchone() function returns a falsy value (eg. None) then the command will hang

[glossy wraith]

i did give it something

im wondering if it isnt parsing it right?

[glossy wraith]

it was indeed none

[frail basin]

The database does not have a row containing the guild id

Which is why its None

[glossy wraith]

lemme add it

it does, weird

[frail basin]

It doesnt

The table exists. Not the row.

[glossy wraith]

OHHH

[frail basin]

You need to add a row to the table containing that guild's ID

[sage tendon]

you should really use a db helper function/class

else you're duplicating so much code

[sage tendon]

Is there any fast way to get every emoji in a message as proper Emoji object?

[errant trout]

not built in, gotta regex - <a?:\w{1,32}:([0-9]{15,20})> with re.findall should return a list of IDs, then bot.get_emoji will work if your bot has access to the relevant emojis

[sage tendon]

isnt this how i send multi-image embeds?

thx btw, worked

[errant trout]

uhhh set_image rather than thumbnail

but yeah, you send multiple images embeds with matching urls

[sage tendon]

oh yea i just noticed that too

guhh do you have the snippet for that

i forgot the tag / command

[sly karma]

f = discord.File("some_file_path", filename="image.png")
e = discord.Embed()
e.set_image(url="attachment://image.png")
await messagable.send(file=f, embed=e)```

[sage tendon]

im so smart

[errant trout]

as have i uhhh

nice

[sly karma]

You can make multiple images appear in a single embed by matching their url attributes

first = discord.Embed(url="https://google.com", description=..., color=...)
first.set_image(url=...)
# etc. etc, do whatever you want with your first embed
second = discord.Embed(url="https://google.com")
second.set_image(url=...)  # do NOTHING else with the second embed
await ctx.send(embeds=[first, second])
```This works for up to 4 images at once.

[sage tendon]

up to 4? dangit

[errant trout]

and this was recently patched to render on mobile too

[sage tendon]

i kinda want more

oh well, first 4 it is

rarely more than 4 emojis anyway

[errant trout]

10 is allowed in mediagallery

[sage tendon]

cv2?

[errant trout]

mhm

[sage tendon]

2.7 cant come soon enough

im a bit dumb i forgot you can set image by url godsh

marvellous

[eternal kite]

it seems like even closing the image my ram usage still increases overtime

also what is this new gradient role color thingy

[sudden star]

Hello everyone,

Can i have a url of documents on pycord for these components?

Thank you in advance💯❤

[echo wraith]

.tag cv2

[sly karma]

Components V2 are under development in pycord and aren't yet included in the official releases on PyPI or the master GitHub branch. However, you can access the features now by installing directly from the pull request #2707. To do this, use the following command: pip install git+https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord.git@refs/pull/2707/head Please be aware that this is a development version and may contain bugs, feel free to report them by adding a comment to the pull request.

[echo wraith]

Example usage: https://github.com/NeloBlivion/pycord/blob/components-v2/examples/views/new_components.py

[sudden star]

Thank you

[echo wraith]

np lmk if anyhting else

[bleak abyss]

Is there anyway with or without pycord to remove access to users

Like the user installs

[fresh sierra]

what do you mean ?

[bleak abyss]

this

is there anyway to remove those 27 users

so they can't use it anymore

[fresh sierra]

ooo i see now

no idea how to remove them from here, however you can just create a global check to only make ur id working

[errant trout]

not possible

you can't do that with guild apps either (the bot leaving the servers =/= deauthorizing)

essentially, you can't forcefully deauthorize for someone else

[sage tendon]

you can stop providing any user-app commands tho

so it's effectively useless

[bleak abyss]

Thanks for the answers

it's kinda dumb that you can't manage that

[sage tendon]

what happens then? if the bot leaves but is still authorized? like, is that any special state or

[errant trout]

not really

you can already authorise apps without adding them as bots

[sage tendon]

hm, thought they'd be able to join back or smth

[errant trout]

from a quick check kicking it does deauthorise, but if the bot isn't added as a member already then that's not possible

[ebon swift]

Hey while coding my discord bot I get moments where I want to raise errors, for example I want to see if a user has a role, if the user don't I want to raise an error, what would be the best option:

• Use a basic python error ? ValueError etc..
• Use a pycord discordExeception ? MissingRole etc.. (If those exist I couldn't find it in the documentation can anyone lead me to them?)
• Make my own set of errors ? which feels a bit weird since those would look like duplicate of pycord execptions

[sage tendon]

What's the reason you wanna do that for

[ebon swift]

for better logging and overall error handling ?

I want my bot to be resilient to logic flaws I might have forgotten to implement and I think it's better to have error raised than printing in each function ("something wrong happened")

[sage tendon]

just check if they have a role and then respond that to them

[ebon swift]

the role missing was an example, in general if I want to raise an error in my code does pycord have a set of exceptions I can use ?

[sage tendon]

if something errors python catches it under on_application_command_error

pycord*

[ebon swift]

I know but what if I want to raise an error ?

[sage tendon]

why raise it if you can just handle it then and there tho

[fresh sierra]

Missing role is ok, if this role is specific to something like premium it
And you use it often make ur own one PremiumRequieredError should be better

[ebon swift]

the function raising the error shouldn't be the one handling the resolution that better to avoid redundancy

[ebon swift]

is there a list of the pycord exception I can use ? I can't find MissingRole exception in the documentation

[sage tendon]

i mean i just let all my errors go into on_application_command_error and handle it from there by checking against the pycord exception classes

that, or i handle it where it happens

i guess you could manually raise the pycord errors but i have no idea if thats intended

[fresh sierra]

Maybe in discord.errors

[ebon swift]

that's the kind of situation I'm in :

# I'm a cog
def do_something():
    # part to do thing before the overall implementation
    try:
        my_specific_function()
    catch discord.NotFound:
        # The error happened I can handle it cause I'm `do_something` function
    catch ????:
        # Another error happened I can handle it cause I'm `do_something` function


def _my_specific_function():
    # I do actions and interact with the discord
    user : Member|None = discord.utils.get(client.get_all_members(), name='username')
    if user is None:
        # I can handle the error cause I'm `my_specific_function`
        # I can raise an exception to be handled by the caller
        raise discord.NotFound("User not found")
    else:
        # I can do something with the user
        pass

Feels weird to relay on a non caller function and get out of the scope of my actions

[sage tendon]

my first thought would be simply returning None and handling None in the function above, ideally the command directly (just pass None all the way up ig) so you can respond to the user

[errant trout]

MissingRole does indeed exist under ext.commands.MissingRole https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.MissingRole

this is typically used in the @commands.has_role check

[ebon swift]

is this a bad behavior to raise it myself at some point ?

[errant trout]

not particularly

[ebon swift]

okay thank you that's all I wanted to know

[errant trout]

as long as you handle it appropriately, you can use it

[ebon swift]

thank you toothy too I revised my code to make it less tendeous to use the raising of errors

[errant trout]

that docs page also has several other exceptions and utilities like check decorators which you might find useful, so feel free to read through

[ebon swift]

can you give me the link please ? osorry I struggle to find my way in the doc ^^

[sage tendon]

yea I was also thinking about checks but I wasn't sure if it applied here mb

[errant trout]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html# for reference
https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/ext/commands/commands.html goes into more general detail on ext.commands

[ebon swift]

hooooooooooo

thx !

[chilly spade]

Hey! Is it possible to use chatgpt and gemini api in one bot to generate responses?

[sage tendon]

sure, why not

[chilly spade]

Oh and is there wiki about this?

[sage tendon]

no

openai has a python package for it, use that

[chilly spade]

Ok thanks

[sage tendon]

lets you switch the API url too so you can use gemini without changes

[chilly spade]

Thanks!

[sage tendon]

i do that too actually
the only thing you need to keep in mind is to use google's openai-compatible API route, AND gemini doesn't support image input via url, you have to base64 it

[chilly spade]

ok and thanks for helping ❤️

[frail basin]

Is there any way to get bots to join guild application threads? (Even if undocumented)

[fresh sierra]

what is guild application threads?

[frail basin]

You can either approve, deny or make a thread with the applicant

I couldnt find anything related to that in the docs

[frail basin]

Guild settings > Access tab

[fresh sierra]

oooo i understand that now

[frail basin]

You can enable applications there

[fresh sierra]

check discord.food

might be there

[echo wraith]

Maybe take a look at discord.food

[frail basin]

Userdocs?

[echo wraith]

Yes

[sage tendon]

you mean the DM group that you can create from it?

[frail basin]

Yes

[sage tendon]

why though

i dont think bots can be members of DM groups but why

[mint isle]

?tag git

[limber wagon]

Install Git For:

• Windows
• Linux
• Mac

[sage tendon]

why

[frail basin]

Logging purposes & to send components into the thread.

[errant trout]

bots can technically create group dms, but it requires every participant to grant the bot the gdm.join oauth2 scope and so was never implemented in pycord

[sage tendon]

you could maybe use a user app for the last part, but only manually

[echo wraith]

When using webhook.from_url, it doesn't allow me to send views, even though it is application owned, just pycord doesn't know it. How can I get around / work w/ that ?

[errant trout]

this is supported in the cv2 pr

webhook.send didn't have the view param before since they couldn't use any components before

(and you don't have to use cv2, you can still use v1 link buttons on webhooks)

[echo wraith]

Wait no then that doesn't work

Or do I need to do something more ?

[errant trout]

hmmm? i'll go test

working fine on my end

[shell radish]

X

[echo wraith]

I use .from_url

that's the thing

[errant trout]

uhhh it shouldn't be any different

lemme check

[echo wraith]

Cause I store the url in my db

[errant trout]

ah

state

[echo wraith]

yeah

[errant trout]

should be fixed

oops

ok actually fixed

[humble turtle]

how can the containers get a color

comp-v2

[shadow sigil]

is it not possible to use ctx.respond in on_application_command_error?

[sage tendon]

sure is possible

[echo wraith]

discord.ui.Container(color=discord.Color.red())

[humble turtle]

Thanks

[shadow sigil]

well, i'm getting a discord.errors.NotFound: 404 Not Found (error code: 10062): Unknown interaction when I try to do so

[echo wraith]

That means you shgould defer

await ctx.defer()

at the top of the commqand causing the error

or at least at the top of your error handling

[sage tendon]

That error happens if you take more than 3s to respond

[shadow sigil]

well it's responding in less than 1s

[sage tendon]

well something isnt responding in time

[shadow sigil]

This interaction failed

[sage tendon]

whats the error of the command causing it

[shadow sigil]

empty message

[sage tendon]

cant you just, fix that in the command lol

[shadow sigil]

if i put it in the on_application_command_error then it just moves the error to that line
if i put it in the command, it gets stuck thinking and also sends a message with ctx.send

[sage tendon]

it's a button, right?

[shadow sigil]

what is a button?

[sage tendon]

can you just show your command code rq

[errant trout]

This seems like it'd be easier if you just showed the- yeah

[sage tendon]

ideally you rarely ever use ctx.send

[shadow sigil]

i know what's causing the error in the command
i'm just asking if using ctx.respond in on_application_command_error isn't allowed

[echo wraith]

it is allowed

[shadow sigil]

ok apparently it works if the defer is in the command (and i actually tell it to send the error message correctly)

but with no defer the interaction just fails and there's no error response

[sage tendon]

i still think there might be a weird thing in your code

can you show it

[shadow sigil]

should i just post it here directly lol

[sage tendon]

yes, screenshot ideally if it isnt too long

[shadow sigil]

asking for a screenshot of code is probably what i least expected

[sage tendon]

Experience told me to never trust anything people send here if it isnt an actual undeniable screenshot

so many times they changed things "for clarity" and that ended up hiding the mistake

[shadow sigil]

that's crazy

[sage tendon]

just support server things

or they write it from memory (???) and obv its different than the actual thing

[shadow sigil]

tried to include whatever I thought was relevant lol

if you want the full code i can link you to a github repository, though it's gonna have some slight differences

[sage tendon]

does that function you call ever respond anything
because if not thats a first case where you never respond

[shadow sigil]

i can tell you that in this case that function definitely isn't called

but if it is called and doesn't immediately return True, then it does respond

async def bot_channel_warning(ctx: discord.ApplicationContext) -> bool | None:
    """Give a warning if the command is not run in a bot channel (if any exist).

    If a warning was not given, or was accepted, returns True. If declined, returns False. If timed out, returns None.
    """
    if ctx.guild_id is None:
        return True

    guild_id = str(ctx.guild_id)
    if (
        guild_id not in bot_data.bot_channels
        or len(bot_data.bot_channels[guild_id]) < 1
    ):
        return True

    channel_id = str(ctx.channel_id)
    if channel_id in bot_data.bot_channels[guild_id]:
        return True

    confirmation = BotWarningView()
    await ctx.respond(
        "❗ you are trying to use a command in a non-bot channel. are you sure?",
        view=confirmation,
        ephemeral=True,
    )
    await confirmation.wait()
    return confirmation.value

[sage tendon]

but thats the first thing you do lol

it has to be called

[shadow sigil]

i misspoke

i meant that it immediately returns true so it doesn't really change anything

[sage tendon]

alright

[shadow sigil]

the code is a bit bodged due to circumstances

normally the defer would happen after the function

[sage tendon]

also just a general code tip, put as little code as possible into a try block

[shadow sigil]

mmm, yeah, though this is a bit of a "if anything gives an error, just respond with an error and stop"

i supposed i could use try except else for that

[sage tendon]

you never respond in the command function, that makes it kinda harder to debug

cant immediately see the issue

[shadow sigil]

the respond is located in frg.send_message (which is at the bottom of the file i sent)

[dreamy hazel]

hi, im trying to write a discord.Option autocomplete function. i am returning exactly 1 value in the form of List[str], but discord is saying that no option matches. any idea why? i can send over my code, but nothing is hardcoded so it wont make sense i suppose

im using autocomplete=discord.utils.basic_autocomplete(func), could that be causing the issue?

also i should clarify, when i return all the possible options (for example when nothing is typed in), it works just fine and shows all of them

[errant trout]

Can you show func

[dreamy hazel]

    @staticmethod
    def rank_level_autocomplete(ctx: discord.AutocompleteContext):
        rank_levels = ranking_data["rank_levels"]
        if ctx.value in rank_levels.values():
            return [rank_name for rank_name, rank_value in rank_levels.items() if rank_value == ctx.value]
        return rank_levels.keys()

rank_levels is in the form of {"text1": "1", "text2": "2", ...}

[errant trout]

eh

[dreamy hazel]

static method because its in the cog class

[errant trout]

it's in a separate class from your command?

[dreamy hazel]

no no, same class

[errant trout]

then you don't need it

[dreamy hazel]

dont need what?

[errant trout]

just do autocomplete=rank_level_autocomplete and add the self param back, remove staticmethod

(maybe you can keep it as staticmethod but i can't remember; regardless, it's not required)

also it should ideally be async

[dreamy hazel]

even if it has no awaits?

async def rank_level_autocomplete(self, ctx: discord.AutocompleteContext):
    ...
``` like so, yeah?

[errant trout]

uhh i guess you can do it either way

docs claim it can be both

[dreamy hazel]

nice it works, thanks

[errant trout]

allgood

[shadow sigil]

is there a point to raising an error in on_application_command_error if it's being logged

[sage tendon]

why raise an error if you're already in an error handler tho

[shadow sigil]

idk i just remember reading that somewhere

[lofty parcel]

You could log the traceback

I used it to raise it again tho for it to stay in the console

And using the error handler just to inform the user

Whatever fits your needs, really

[ebon swift]

I'm trying to check if a user joins a voice channel, for a test I used this listener:

        @commands.Cog.listener()
        async def on_voice_state_update(
                self,
                member: Member,
                before: discord.VoiceState,
                after: discord.VoiceState,
        ):
            log.info(f"Voice state updated for {member.name} before: {before} after: {after}")

the listener isn't called when I join any voice channel, I don't see my log . Am I missing something is there any requirement for it to work ? any intent that is mandatory to check on voice channels ?

[echo wraith]

Ig you maybe need presence intent ?

I'm not certain

[ebon swift]

I'll try it

doesn't work :/

doesn't feel like an intent issue because when give all intents it still doesn't work

I added another listener _ontyping() to test if the listeners wher loaded and this last one works only the on_voice_state_update() doesn't

[echo wraith]

I'll take a look

If you find the fix in the meantime, please ping me

[ebon swift]

I'll do if I find it !

[echo wraith]

I was not able to reproduce your issue with the following code:

import logging
import os

from dotenv import load_dotenv

import discord

load_dotenv()

logging.basicConfig(level=logging.DEBUG)

TOKEN = os.getenv("TOKEN_2")

intents = discord.Intents.default()

bot = discord.Bot(intents=intents)

@bot.listen()
async def on_voice_state_update(
        member: discord.Member,
        before: discord.VoiceState,
        after: discord.VoiceState,
):
    print(f"Voice state updated for {member.name} before: {before} after: {after}")

if __name__ == "__main__":
    bot.run(TOKEN)

Can you try and tell me if that still doesn't work for you ?

[ebon swift]

@echo wraith found it ! I had an identation issue !

[echo wraith]

Alright

[ebon swift]

sorry for the disturbing

[echo wraith]

np lmk if there's anything else

[ebon swift]

I'll do !

[eternal kite]

so i currently have a on_application_command_error event to handle errors, is it possible to let it show a full traceback instead of just the exception?

[errant trout]

the default handler uses the traceback module py traceback.print_exception( type(exception), exception, exception.__traceback__, file=sys.stderr )

[echo wraith]

Sentry

[eternal kite]

oh so I can make it show the exact line of the error?

[errant trout]

uhhh it normally does that yeah

you don't need to do anything special

[sudden star]

how can i make the role option as list, so i can add multiple role?

@ticket.command(name="setup", description="Create a report ticket system")
    @IsAdmin()
    @option(name="role", description="Role that can access the ticket", required=True, type=discord.Role)
    @option(name="category", description="Category where the ticket will be created", required=True, type=discord.CategoryChannel)
    async def ticket_setup(self, ctx: discord.ApplicationContext, role: discord.Role, category: discord.CategoryChannel):
    ....

[errant trout]

not possible, sorry

[lapis dock]

You could use a select menu instead

After sending the command

[chrome plover]

Can there can be defaults in select type for things such as default userselect?

[silk spire]

Yes

Oh apparently pycord doesn't support it

#discussion message

[chrome plover]

Alright

[lapis dock]

When using Webhook.from_url can I use an existing session from the bot or am I required to create my own? Also is there a better way for a bot to manage a webhook other the saving and loading from url?

[errant trout]

it's silly, but you can use bot.http._HTTPClient__session

(class vars that start with __ are considered truly private, but can still be bypassed by using that notation)

that's also how the library handles webhooks in stuff like channel.webhooks so there's nothing really wrong with it py def from_state(cls, data, state) -> Webhook: http = state.http session = http._HTTPClient__session proxy_auth = http.proxy_auth proxy = http.proxy return cls( data, session=session, state=state, proxy_auth=proxy_auth, proxy=proxy, token=state.http.token, )

[lapis dock]

👍
Also answered the second half of my questions. Bot.fetch_webhook exists

[errant trout]

yeah if you have the ID

if you don't want to fetch for whatever reason then from_url is perfectly fine too

[lapis dock]

I am setting up error logging to a discord channel

[errant trout]

ahh fair

[lapis dock]

so it is only 1

[valid panther]

Good afternoon, I'm trying to review the topic of new features. To be able to use command messages in private chats with other people. How do I manage it?

[fresh sierra]

do you talk about user app ?

[valid panther]

Yep

[rugged lodge]

Here's the slash users example.

[echo wraith]

@valid panther ⬆️

[valid panther]

From which version is it available?

[sage tendon]

2.6, i think

[valid panther]

It's time to make the version jump, I'm in 2.4

[sage tendon]

jesus what

[valid panther]

[sage tendon]

isnt that like 2 years old at this point

[fresh sierra]

i mean 0.2 thing is not that much generally

[sage tendon]

luma, we are talking about pycord

[fresh sierra]

but in pycord its like 0.1 every years

[sage tendon]

where minor versions have breaking changes (?????)

[fresh sierra]

no joke man

[fresh sierra]

better than having no update at all

pycord 3.0 before 2.7 ;)

[valid panther]

2.4.1v

Do you recommend me to do the version jump?

[sage tendon]

do you just not update your packages

[sage tendon]

...yes?

[fresh sierra]

ofc

i dont think you will have to change a lot of thing

[lapis dock]

What you want is not possible until 2.6 so yeah

[fresh sierra]

i mean if you want you can wait for 2.7 before updating but we dont know when it will be released

[valid panther]

When was 2.6?

[sage tendon]

half a year ago?

or so

[lapis dock]

I think last june July 9th, 2.6.1 was september

[sage tendon]

yep

so almost a year ago

2.4 released in february 2023 jfc

[fresh sierra]

gta 6 before 2.7

2.4 : — 12/02/2023
2.5: — 02/03/2024
2.6: — 10/07/2024

[valid panther]

If I make the version jump to 2.6, the change to 2.7 should be minimal

[valid panther]

[sage tendon]

man if pycord respected semver you wouldnt need to worry about having to make ANY changes

[valid panther]

How fast time flies

[lapis dock]

I dont think there are any breaking changes in 2.7 other than dropping support for python 3.8

[sage tendon]

2.6, bridge tho

bridge options

but atp i have no idea who still uses prefix commands

[lapis dock]

Bridge is so broken that breaking changes dont make the code more broken

[sage tendon]

actually 2.5 was breaking too

[little cobalt]

What would you do, if slash commands are not working anymore for a longer time?

[sage tendon]

that wouldnt happen

"what if one of the major features of the platform just didnt work for a long time" is not something that happens lol

[fresh sierra]

all of them

https://docs.pycord.dev/de/v2.6.1/changelog.html

[sage tendon]

this is just bs

if there was even a hint of caring about semver we'd be at like 4.0 minimum

[fresh sierra]

when possible ;)

[sage tendon]

thats not something you can do "when possible"

either you respect semver or you don't.

and pycord does not

[fresh sierra]

the when possible here just state that this will be respected only for public functions, however its not respected

[sage tendon]

did you ever read semver?

[fresh sierra]

i was talking about pycord message

[sage tendon]

pycord specifically breaks semver exclusively when it comes to the public api

[fresh sierra]

The first thing to keep in mind is that breaking changes only apply to publicly documented functions and classes.

[sage tendon]

no shit

[fresh sierra]

that's why i wrote : however its not respected in my message ;)

[sage tendon]

you can still break semver for the backend code

marking patch changes as minor versions for example, or minor changes as patch

not breaking changes, but breaking semver

[fresh sierra]

well i dont really care about those thing as long that i have a library that is working, so im just waiting for 2.7 even tho it doesnt respect semver

i just want finally a stable release

[sage tendon]

checks first unreleased 2.7 change > breaking

YIPPIE

[echo wraith]

Its just 3.8 eol

[sage tendon]

actually seems so

[nocturne jewel]

raw = await bot.http.get_user(member.id)```

Any info about ratelimits?

[sage tendon]

dont do it unless necessary

not sure about the ratelimit of fetching users but just avoid it

[echo wraith]

Ratelimits will still be applied here

[errant trout]

everything done through bot.http is ratelimited

[nocturne jewel]

i need to get user guild tag

[errant trout]

(or rather has built-in handling of ratelimits)

then eh sure why not

[nocturne jewel]

        "clan": {
            "identity_guild_id": "1044698006395555960",
            "identity_enabled": true,
            "tag": "STAR",
            "badge": "66dd35e973cf6054f84b0edd73ac2b02"
        },
        "primary_guild": {
            "identity_guild_id": "1044698006395555960",
            "identity_enabled": true,
            "tag": "STAR",
            "badge": "66dd35e973cf6054f84b0edd73ac2b02"
        },```

whats the difference lol

[sage tendon]

the top one will go eventually

[lapis dock]

The second is also still technically in beta

[south radish]

is there an attribute for hybrid command in pycord (I know nothing but I have made small bots by using deepseek to write my code 😅😅)

currently my bot responds to prefix cmds but I want to make it such that I can use slash cmds as well

can anyone help?

[tidal vessel]

https://guide.pycord.dev/extensions/bridge

[lapis dock]

Additionally I recommend not using AI for discord bots

[south radish]

umm.... why ?

[lapis dock]

Generally AI is not aware of the newest features that discord has. In addition much of the training material is poor quality (many online discord bot tutorials are terrible). There are also multiple python discord libraries and the AI can get them confused. And if you use AI you dont learn as quickly and it will take you longer to debug issues as you dont fully understand the code.

[south radish]

I took bio in my Sr. secondary school so I don't know anything about coding and I make bots only for troll commands like........ dragging someone continuously through multiple channels so for me AI works fine. Later I will definitely learn more in coding but for now I can't...... hehe 😅

till now all I've made is to troll my friends

[round heart]

Damn. Is there any way to reference an autocomplete from a different cog (or different class at all) in my command def?

Can't use autocomplete=self.target_cog.my_autocomplete because I can't use self.

[fresh sierra]

CogClass.my_autocomplete

[round heart]

CogClass is not defined

Even though I am importing it

[fresh sierra]

cog class is supposed to be the other cog you need

[round heart]

Yes, I am aware 🙂 I'm just saying it throws errors about not being defined.

from mycog import MyCog

[fresh sierra]

how are you importing the cog ?

[round heart]

Which is doubly weird because it doesn't seem to error in my TYPE_CHECKING block. But when I place it outside of that, it whines

[fresh sierra]

can you show me ur tree ?

because it might be possible that you dont really import the good thing from the file

make sure to put the full path or .__setup__ (if in the same folder)

the setup is my file name

[round heart]

bot
  - main.py
  \ commands
    - treasury.py (class Treasury)
    - developer.py (class Developer)
    ...

From my treasury.py, I'm trying to from developer import Develooper

Again, works fine in TYPE_CHECKING for doing IDE stuff, but complains at runtime when outside of it

[fresh sierra]

is bot also a folder ?

[fresh sierra]

also could you try from .developer import Develooper

with a .

[round heart]

Okay, from commands.developer import Developer works.

[fresh sierra]

and .developer should work to

[round heart]

Well the IDE whined about it not being a package, so I didn't try

[fresh sierra]

the . do the import from the current folder

[round heart]

Yeah I know. Just don't want to see any squiggles right now 😅

[fresh sierra]

be careful because sometime the ide show an import somewhere but during runtime it import it from somewhere else

had this issue with commands.cog that was coming from lumabot.commands even tho i never import commands from lumabot

[wheat tiger]

@sage tendon

References: #general message

[sage tendon]

okay first of all why do you do exit() lol

do you want your entire bot to shut down if that's none

[wheat tiger]

That's not pycord 🤓

that's why I asked in general

bcz python nerds out here

[sage tendon]

ah

I mean you can just ignore it, VSC isn't the smartest with code analysis

[fresh sierra]

look at ur class

and if possible can you share us ur class definition ?

[torn barn]

Because vscode does not know whether exit will “return” the code or not (because it can be handled in a try/except)

If you use a exit then add a return below it , it should fix it

[fresh sierra]

as anonymous said, maybe the exit() is not considered as a return

[wheat tiger]

Even if I add return after exit() (or vice versa) still error is shown

[fresh sierra]

then maybe do a if self.query is not None

or a isistance str

or just put a # type ignore if nothing is slved

[frail basin]

how is query defined?

[frail basin]

works for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fresh sierra]

will it be possible to include this in pycord ? instead of having to use the decorator or Option

async def test(self, ctx: LumabotContext, test: ["test1", "test2"]):

[frail basin]

You should never do that

if you add / remove from test, it will persist across function calls

[fresh sierra]

wdym ?

this would just be for passing directly inside the function def the list so i dont have to use the decorator to add choices = [test1, test2]

[frail basin]

This also isnt correct typing wise.

This is probably what you want:

import typing as t

async def test(self, ctx: discord.ApplicationContext, test: t.Literal["test1", "test2"]):
    ...

But even this isnt ideal, if you pass different types of objects into the Literal

[fresh sierra]

Yeah that’s what I meant

But will that work in pucord v

Like display it as choice ?

[frail basin]

I highly doubt this is currently implemented if thats what you are asking

[torn barn]

It should be already implemented ?

[frail basin]

Are you sure? I doubt it.

I've never seen anyone using that syntax before.

[torn barn]

But it should be

[fresh sierra]

Im gonna test than in a min

[sage tendon]

...why?

just use options

[frail basin]

Ask Luma lol

[sage tendon]

...

people really are allergic against easy-as-fuck tools given by the library

especially luma

[fresh sierra]

why tf would i want to add a fonction when i can just type hint this ?

• as anonymous said it should already be part of it

[sage tendon]

its nearing abusing typehints / defaults

[fresh sierra]

so im technically just using proper python type hint

[fresh sierra]

well its not implemented, i just test it

[fresh sierra]

@frail basin

i might do a pr for that

[sage tendon]

this syntax should be preserved for actually setting defaults, not feeding into your urge to bend pycord to your needs

[fresh sierra]

sadly for you you are not in charge of that

if maintainer think that it should not be add they will be free to let me know

[sage tendon]

why break existing python syntax just for the sake of .. zero gain at all

[fresh sierra]

if as anonymous and me they think this should be implemented then it will be implemented

[sage tendon]

is it THAT hard to use options, which you should anyway for descriptions and stuff?

[fresh sierra]

man pls just leave me alone

u have just been yapping for the last month and i cannot really stand that anymore

[sage tendon]

no you are literally just trying to bend the library to your very specific needs, constantly

[fresh sierra]

.

[sage tendon]

good luck

just make a fork man

you have so many specific and weird wants and needs

literally fork it and you can do whatever you want

[fresh sierra]

.

[torn barn]

Using literal annotations would make sense for pycord to use choices by default to that

But not doing something like opt: str = ['smth']

[fresh sierra]

ofc, this was made really fast and doesnt make sense at all

like im setting a dict as default value

[torn barn]

Nah worse

Wait

Like

Dict for default and annotating as str

Or

[frail basin]

You really shouldnt do that

I even sent you an example why not to

[fresh sierra]

ik, that what i said

[frail basin]

That applies to every reference type object

[fresh sierra]

yeah, idk why i wrote that because that does not make any sense

[fresh sierra]

i wanted to credit you on the github about this Literal, but i cant find ur account, can you help me with this ?

(in case credit is not english i meant shoutout)

[frail basin]

I dont really want to be affiliated with that. I am on Toothy's side in this matter, the decorator is the intended way.

[fresh sierra]

ok then, thanks still

[silk spire]

poor luma just trying to improve the lib for everyone

[sage tendon]

Its just bad design imo
Plus, you kinda have to use the decorator if you wanna use a description, or anything else

like even setting options via typehints at all is not good practice imo

[errant trout]

Apologies but I don't think we're ever adding this; your best option would be a function or subclass of Option that just takes the choices you want

The general direction of the library is to be more explicit in how users interface with discord, not less

[fresh sierra]

no worries, i'll continue to use @discord.option then

[tidal pecan]

You know that you're not required to use @discord.option just to present a fill-innable field when users type their slash-command, right?

The whole deal is that Py-Cord devs are not to blame: Discord's API exchanges JSON-encoded objects as (I think) UTF-8 encoded text with "Gateway" bots over Websocket connections. Py-Cord just translates the incoming JSON into runtime events with typed parameters, then translates outgoing function outputs back into JSON for transmission. So the difference between setting up an event-handler (or command-handler, call it whatever you want) with @discord.option versus just plain old input parameters is that @discord.option instructs the Py-Cord framework how to format the JSON object which represents that parameter when it transmits its command definition to Discord's API.

Your typehints in Python are useful to things with IntelliSense, like Visual Studio and PyCharm. Those type hints are only relevant to you as a programmer... even Python itself doesn't really care what data type you put in, and Discord will only give you or accept in return some kind of text-encoded string. Trying to scan those comments and thereby invent documentation comments for the Discord API would be a bit like giving everybody who buys a car the Hayne's Manual which contains all the schematics for every moving part in the vehicle.

[fresh sierra]

im not blaming anyone, i was wondering if this could be a thing

[tidal pecan]

Sure, I get it. I was just trying to expand on the explanation already given, because all Toothy really said is that they probably won't do it. I think I have a pretty good idea as to why they won't.

[fresh sierra]

im only using decorator for list, so i was looking if there was a way to just not use it

[fresh sierra]

to be fair im not listening to toothy anymore, im not saying his point is not valuable but i dont like the way he says thing in general.

[echo wraith]

You can always use annotated to

[fresh sierra]

and it was logical in a way for me to continue to use typehint since we can already do everything with typehint expect choice/autocomplete

[fresh sierra]

wdym ?

[echo wraith]

typing.Annotated

[sage tendon]

luma knows that..

and idk why you explain it in such an overcomplicated way lol

[fresh sierra]

do you mean use typing.Annotated to pass choice from typehint ?

[sage tendon]

and discord.option doesnt set up an event handler or command handler or anything

what you are saying is literally not true

[tidal pecan]

That's not what I said.

[sage tendon]

you literally said exactly that, almost word by word

[tidal pecan]

It's a complicated process, and the way the Framework is designed to simplify it for you obfuscates the actual operations performed.

[sage tendon]

you love using big sentences to explain stuff lol

[tidal pecan]

No, it's literally not what I said by any stretch of anybody's imagination but yours.

[sage tendon]

its really not as complicated as you make it

pycord literally just builds the options from whatever it gets, there isn't really a difference if you dont use @discord.option or if you do use it, apart from it giving you a way to actually pass option descriptions (etc)

[tidal pecan]

Wow. THAT is literally what I said XD

[sage tendon]

in about 500 words

[tidal pecan]

OK, you're blocked. I don't need this kind of trolling from somebody with a staff bit.

[sage tendon]

what you're doing isnt helping, its throwing around big words for braggings sake

and if you have been here even once youd knew luma knows the library enough to not need it explained to him like that

[fresh sierra]

he had a valid point

what he said was the typehint should only be for me

and nothing related to library

[sage tendon]

there was no point in all his 1000 words

[fresh sierra]

i dont understand why you have to be that mean with people

[sage tendon]

its just "heres many cool words i learnt used in semi-correct ways"

[fresh sierra]

and there is no point of you just being mean for no reason

just chill out

[sage tendon]

its literally just showing off, while being partly wrong

im not being mean, im sick of people acting like fucking smartasses like that

[fresh sierra]

well @tidal pecan thanks for your explanation, it was greatly appreciate

[sage tendon]

the explanation was literally wrong

because pycord literally DOES use the typehints

if you do intoption: int it will be an int option inside the discord UI

so many words just to be fatally wrong

[fresh sierra]

it does but i should not execpt pycord to use them since as he said its mainly for ide etc

[tidal pecan]

I hope it helps. I know not everybody wants a deeper understanding than just what it takes to make Py-Cord work, but as someone who does want a deeper understanding I tend to target that audience.

[sage tendon]

thats what ive been saying all this time lol
the typehint methods (both!) to define command options are just bad practice

[fresh sierra]

and that's true, in fact typehint are for documentation and more readable code

[sage tendon]

yet you are wrong in your main point lol

oh well they left anyway, good riddance

[fresh sierra]

i understand the point of the typehint and so why nelo etc are not in favor of editing the lib to support typehint

[sage tendon]

luma typehints work to define option types

or do you specicially mean the literal thingy to define optionchoices

[fresh sierra]

so thanks, its way more pleasant to have an explanation than just a dont do that

[sage tendon]

the explanation was just wrong

but who cares about facts anymore

just use like 500 words to explain a very basic concept and call everyone correcting it mean

[tidal pecan]

"Don't touch the stove!"
"Why not?"
"DON'T TOUCH THE STOVE!"
looks at the stove

[round heart]

I have an idea: your feedback clearly isn’t welcome, so if you think they’re doing it wrong, let them go down that path of discovery

[sage tendon]

its not discovery, its just showing off and spreading false info

if you dont meet that with the appropriate response they will never stop

[fresh sierra]

python in fact does not really care about typehint, its mainly to help us understand the code, and that was the ponit he was trying to show me

[sage tendon]

and if luma actually was a beginner in need of help, that overinflated "explanation" would not help at all

[fresh sierra]

even tho pycord does support this typehint

[round heart]

Just leave it and go touch some grass

[sage tendon]

no, voidcaster is literally wrong
they said, in my own words now, "using typehints to define options would be <dumb>"
BUT PYCORD LITERALLY DOES THAT

im fine defi dw

[round heart]

That part is actually true. Pycord relies on typing in Options (and other places I’m sure)

[sage tendon]

yea, hence why im so mad their entire explanation ultimately went to the wrong conclusion

[round heart]

Well, let them figure it out.

[sage tendon]

cant if they block anyone showing em 😂

[echo wraith]

cat /etc/passwd

[fresh sierra]

the thing he tried to explain me what more general (2nd part)

[round heart]

The way you’re reacting is immature. Just go do something else

[fresh sierra]

you just leaked ur password gg

[echo wraith]

Pycord relies on typing but isn't typed

[sage tendon]

no, its unfiltered

its immature to use this stupid way of "explanation" just to throw around big words

[tidal pecan]

Isn't STRONGLY typed :-D

[round heart]

Actually I saw something where someone getting a canned AI response on LinkedIn tricked the agent into sending the user’s ssh key

[tidal pecan]

Hold ALT and press F4 repeatedly to gain instant Admin powers on any Discord server.

[sage tendon]

i think you mean python lol

or what

[fresh sierra]

im waiting for pycord v3 pydantic + type everywhere

[sage tendon]

huh isnt the library pretty much typed across the board

at the very least public bits

[echo wraith]

LMAO

[fresh sierra]

didnt work... what's the command for mac os

[echo wraith]

No not really even

[sage tendon]

i dont think i ever came across anything i used that wasnt typed properly

show an example

[tidal pecan]

Hold COMMAND and tap W repeatedly

[round heart]

Q

[fresh sierra]

i got tricked by that back in the day

it was supposed to "fix" my mic

[sage tendon]

wow

[echo wraith]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/_modules/discord/commands/core.html#slash_command

an example

[sage tendon]

hm
i think its prolly because its a decorator

[echo wraith]

That dosn't mean it shouldn't be typed

[sage tendon]

yea

[valid panther]

can I make the “default_member_permissions” in the SlashCommandGroup?

[sage tendon]

sub commands can't have their own default permissions, it has to be passed to the group

the other two can stay

[valid panther]

oki doki

regarding the “has_permissions” decorator can be done in the SlashCommandGroup object?

[sage tendon]

well, you only need the has_permissions check if you want enforce it in every case
server owners can change the default permissions in the server settings

[sage tendon]

no, that's for each command individually

[errant trout]

if you mean the internal checks from ext.commands, SlashCommandGroup allows you to pass a list checks to apply it to all commands in the group

example from slash_cog_groups py secret_greetings = SlashCommandGroup( "secret_greetings", "Secret greetings", checks=[ commands.is_owner().predicate ], # Ensures the owner_id user can access this group, and no one else )basically any function that returns a bool

[sage tendon]

oh yea I forgor

[tidal pecan]

Is there a separate channel/forum for general bot-dev questions? I'm using Py-Cord to build the bot, but that's not what my question is really about.

[errant trout]

you can ask in this forum anyway

[nocturne jewel]

discord don't generate previews of images, anyone aware of this?

[tidal pecan]

I'm not clear whether this is a pycord or bot question, or just a request for help with Discord?

[errant trout]

https://discordstatus.com/incidents/51zy2qv0kgz3

[nocturne jewel]

thx

[lapis dock]

How would I implement a global error handler for the entire bot? When an error occurs in a button callback it does not seem to trigger on_error. I thought it would as it is an error in the interaction event

I guess it is possible that I am overridding it wrong though

class SurveyWolf(discord.Bot, ABC):
  async def on_error(self, event_method: str, *args: Any, **kwargs: Any) -> None:
    ...

[frail basin]

I subclassed the view and added the error handler to it

[sage tendon]

im p sure you just do @bot.event no?

i think overriding the entire function breaks everything

[errant trout]

no, on_error is a standard Client function rather than event

on_error triggers on events, but because view callbacks call their own on_error it sidesteps Client.on_error

[lapis dock]

I am looking for it to be more global, I was trying to figure out how I could catch ALL ignored exceptions but I think pycord does too much in the background so I settled on on_error and on_application_command_error

Ah ok

[errant trout]

honestly

we could just PR on_view_error as a new event or something

[lapis dock]

I will make an feature request issue for now 👍

[silk spire]

That would be a really neat addition for everyone really

[errant trout]

in the meantime either just edit view.py or subclass view to have the default on_error call client.on_error or so

[echo wraith]

I did some monkey patching for it to work

[errant trout]

Client.on_error sucks because it doesn't even have an arg for the exception

[silk spire]

typ, error, trackback = sys.exc_info()? lol

[errant trout]

yeah but it doesn't match the other error handlers that explicitly pass the exception

[silk spire]

True

[fresh sierra]

Pls do it !

[ebon swift]

hey all ! I was wondering, what's the best way to add a has_role() over all a cog ? I know I could just add @has_role() to each of my commands. but I feel like this open the way to forgetting to add it and have some misuse of certain commands. (I was maybe thinking checks but I don't thinks they adapt well with decorators or the function under the @has_role decorator)

[sage tendon]

make your own version of the slashcommand decorator that adds it to every command its used on

[lapis dock]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/v2.6.1/api/cogs.html#discord.Cog.cog_check and do the role check yourself

[sage tendon]

oh thats useful

[lapis dock]

Cogs have a lot of stuff that is rarely used

[ebon swift]

thank u

[silk spire]

Is it commands.has_role for slash too?

If so, you can call the built check manually in cog_check too:

has_role = await commands.has_role(xxx).predicate(ctx)

Oh there are no lib checks for slash

[sage tendon]

because ideally those are handled in discords ui

[ebon swift]

I'll try that thank you !

[errant trout]

all checks in ext work with slash

they just don't apply on discord's end

[errant trout]

got bored and slipped it into cv2 teehee https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/pull/2707/commits/097a60f9cfb727837bb12ecbfb738875a896c900

refactored ctx.command -> interaction.command, added interaction.view and interaction.modal, new events on_view_error and on_modal_error; these are called by default if you did not define View.on_error and Modal.on_error

[lapis dock]

Thanks :)

[ivory beacon]

Does anyone know the rate limit for the fetch_invite() function or its underlying endpoint?
Specifically, how many invite links can be checked within a certain time frame?

[haughty grove]

why does discord do this? im using member.mention in the join event and sometimes (especially on mobile client) it shows the mention as unknown member, even tho they didnt even leave

[sage tendon]

client issue

unless its in an embed

[haughty grove]

so nothing i can do about it?

its a normal message

[sage tendon]

yea then no

[errant trout]

discord explicitly changed the client to stop rendering users you don't have cached

[sage tendon]

wait doesn't it fetch them on mention?

[errant trout]

no

[sage tendon]

but it used to do that right

[errant trout]

i thinkkkkkkk so but i can't remember

never worked in embeds, worked in normal text until a couple months back

[sage tendon]

yea that's why I duplicate my embed mentions in the message body

ugh

[lapis dock]

Rate limits in discord are dynamic and intentionally undocumented.

[ivory beacon]

ahh, thanks 🥳

[fresh sierra]

Fell free to just try it

Also sometime on re-edit you can find some info

[ivory beacon]

i was bulk checking 3k invite links and got rate limited 💔

even tho i was using 0.5s delay

[fresh sierra]

No but like you do a script to understand after how many you are rate limit and for how long etc

[lapis dock]

Bulk anything is going to get you ratelimited

[fresh sierra]

So after that you know what number/tome you can use

[ivory beacon]

rate limit is based on ip ?

[fresh sierra]

Yes

When it’s from cloudfare

[ivory beacon]

oke, i will experiment it

[fresh sierra]

There is also by bot, guild, etc

Also if ur checking ur guilds invite etc you could use guild.invites, might be better

[sage tendon]

do you really need to fetch them?

[ivory beacon]

yes, I've to check them if they are expired or not

[fresh sierra]

But from where are you getting them ?

Guild where ur bot is not in ?

[ivory beacon]

I run a bot called Dank Alert, which acts as a Dank Memer assistant. I use Dank Memer's Discovery API to fetch and store all server invite links. Recently, I added a feature that checks whether those stored invite links are still valid or have expired

I've saved 3.3k+ invite links on production

[fresh sierra]

Ok I understand now

I’ll try to think about it

[ivory beacon]

sure, but it's working if i fetch 20± invite links (already got banned for 24h, only on invite endpoint)

[sage tendon]

what is this even for

[ivory beacon]

user can join those discovery server and fish for limited time rare fish

[ivory beacon]

https://dankmemer.lol/discovery this page to discord cmd

[sage tendon]

and why do you save them

[fresh sierra]

.

[sage tendon]

no, thats not the reason they save them in the first place

thats the reason they fetch the invite from discord after saving them