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shell radish Apr 11, 2025, 3:37 AM

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If you want to use a custom emoji, send it with \ in front

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such as \ pycord

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then it should output as

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!pycord

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and that's the string you want to use

wild hill Apr 11, 2025, 3:38 AM

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/ Moderation

shell radish Apr 11, 2025, 3:38 AM

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wrong slash

wild hill Apr 11, 2025, 3:41 AM

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!Moderation

deep night Apr 11, 2025, 11:53 AM

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when i use
await ctx.trigger_typing()

I get permission error, which permission need to be allowed?

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these are my current

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echo wraith Apr 11, 2025, 12:15 PM

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deep night when i use await ctx.trigger_typing() I get permission error, which permission ...

You need to make sure the permissions are correct for the channel too

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Also changing these won't update them once you added the bot to a server

deep night Apr 11, 2025, 12:16 PM

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echo wraith You need to make sure the permissions are correct **for the channel too**

now it works ty

echo wraith Apr 11, 2025, 12:36 PM

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np

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 5:10 PM

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somebody else have rate-limit or its only me?
if its only me how much time i should way for it to go away?

little cobalt Apr 11, 2025, 5:32 PM

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buoyant eagle somebody else have rate-limit or its only me? if its only me how much time i sho...

?

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Channels got many rate limits

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 5:33 PM

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little cobalt ?

[2025-04-11 20:30:59] [WARNING ] discord.http: We are being rate limited. Retrying in 431.55 seconds. Handled under the bucket "None:None:/applications/{application_id}/commands"

little cobalt Apr 11, 2025, 5:34 PM

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How many commands do you have?

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 5:34 PM

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idk

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there a max amount?

little cobalt Apr 11, 2025, 5:34 PM

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Yea

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 5:34 PM

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what is it?

little cobalt Apr 11, 2025, 5:35 PM

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100 normal slash commands

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 5:38 PM

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wdym whenm you say normal?

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 5:48 PM

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little cobalt 100 normal slash commands

removed some and now i have 90

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:08 PM

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buoyant eagle wdym whenm you say normal?

You can use sub commands

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.cmd-limits

sly karmaBOT Apr 11, 2025, 6:08 PM

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You can have 100 commands, and each command can have up to 25 sub-command groups. Each sub-command group can have up to 25 sub-commands.

100 x 25 x 25 = 62.5k

Of course, "slash commands can have a maximum of 4000 characters for combined name, description, and value properties for each command and its subcommands and groups", so you're not likely to hit that 62.5k command limit

This can be doubled again with guild commands

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:08 PM

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fresh sierra You can use sub commands

#   ---===Antilinks-commands===---
    antilinks_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "antilinks")

# ---===Drop-commands===---
    drop_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "drop")

#   ---===Fun-commands===---
    fun_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "fun")

#   ---===Feedback-commands===---
    feedback_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "feedback")

#   ---===GiveAway-commands===---
    giveaway_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "giveaway")

#   ---===Logs-commands===---
    messages_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "message", description = "Log messages")
    roles_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "role", description = "Log roles")
    members_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "member", description = "Log member")
    channels_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "channel", description = "Log channels")    

#   ---===Moderation-commands===---
    moderation_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "staff")   

#   ---===Multi-Cogs-commands===---
    setup_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "setup", description="Setup")

#   ---===Tickets-commands===---
    tickets_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "ticket")

#   ---===Utillity-commands===---
    utillity_group = discord.SlashCommandGroup(name = "utillity")

this?

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:09 PM

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This are group yes

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:09 PM

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it still giving me rate limits

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:09 PM

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You cannot just have more than 100 /name

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:09 PM

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buoyant eagle it still giving me rate limits

Because you will need to rate limit to be done before not having it again

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:10 PM

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what

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:10 PM

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exactly when is the ratelimit occuring

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:10 PM

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2025-04-11 21:06:59?

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:10 PM

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i mean

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is it when you do something

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such as restarting the bot

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:11 PM

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yes

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i cant test my bot

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:12 PM

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could you try set auto_sync_commands=False in your bot constructor

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(if you ever need to update command metadata or add/remove commands, set it back to True)

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:14 PM

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now it doesnt give me the rate limit but it stills doesnt show my commands

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:15 PM

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hmmm i guess you need to sync at least once

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wait for the ratelimit to expire, then let your bot sync commands

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:15 PM

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but when i sync its giving rate limit so i cant sync

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:15 PM

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yeah so you have to wait GuraShrug

echo wraith Apr 11, 2025, 6:15 PM

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buoyant eagle but when i sync its giving rate limit so i cant sync

You'll need to wait

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:15 PM

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errant trout wait for the ratelimit to expire, then let your bot sync commands

i waited a hour or so i think

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:16 PM

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it tells you how long is left

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on the ratelimit message

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:16 PM

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and then its giving rate limit again

little cobalt Apr 11, 2025, 6:16 PM

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Usually 24 hours for the reset for slash commands

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:16 PM

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if it doesn't work then you might have to wait the full 24

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because syncing is weird

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:17 PM

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little cobalt Usually 24 hours for the reset for slash commands

damn
hate this

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:17 PM

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or just temporarily test on a new token if you can afford it

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:17 PM

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errant trout or just temporarily test on a new token if you can afford it

you mean reset the bot token or make a new bot?

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:17 PM

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new bot

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:24 PM

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errant trout new bot

made new one and still the same 🙂

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:25 PM

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literally how

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:25 PM

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idk

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:25 PM

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you sure you changed the token in your files...?

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:25 PM

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yes

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the other bot is online

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and its showing me only help command .

    for command in bot.commands:
        print(command)

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:27 PM

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it's bot.application_commands

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:27 PM

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oops

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bruh

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:27 PM

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mmmm if you set auto_sync_commands=False and later manually run await bot.sync_commands() while the bot is running, does that work?

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:28 PM

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idk

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its showing my commands

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BUT

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its saying user install when i set that to guild install

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 6:28 PM

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why do you have so many commands..

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:28 PM

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if #1132206148309749830 message is everything then it's not really that many

buoyant eagle Apr 11, 2025, 6:29 PM

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sage tendon why do you have so many commands..

good question

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 6:35 PM

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i've actually experienced something similar recently

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My bot has like 20 commands, and i didnt touch any of the data that would trigger a proper resync of any command, and i still got ratelimited under the commands bucket after restarting a bunch of times

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im not sure if discord changed something or if its an issue with pycord where commands are force synced needlessly

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:36 PM

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oh probably uhhhh

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during big outages, whenever the bot reconnects it might try to sync again

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:41 PM

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buoyant eagle made new one and still the same 🙂

how many commands do you have ?

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mb the chat didnt load

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 6:42 PM

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it was during testing nelo

cobalt bone Apr 11, 2025, 6:43 PM

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Is it possible to change the way requests are sent to discord?

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 6:43 PM

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cobalt bone Is it possible to change the way requests are sent to discord?

like?

cobalt bone Apr 11, 2025, 6:43 PM

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sage tendon like?

I'd like to manage the frequency of requests sent to discord

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 6:43 PM

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wdym the frequency

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 6:44 PM

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sage tendon it was during testing nelo

idk then but there's no code to randomly sync commands

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 6:45 PM

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i just feel like pycord either unnecessarily force syncs commands, or discord handles the ratelimit weirdly

cobalt bone Apr 11, 2025, 6:45 PM

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sage tendon wdym the frequency

You can send requests to discord like sending a message, creating a channel... I'd like to control this sending to put a personal rate limit.

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:45 PM

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cobalt bone You can send requests to discord like sending a message, creating a channel... I...

fork the library ig

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but it seems a bit hard so good luck with it

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 6:45 PM

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cobalt bone You can send requests to discord like sending a message, creating a channel... I...

pycord manages ratelimits if you mean that, you dont have to worry

cobalt bone Apr 11, 2025, 6:47 PM

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sage tendon pycord manages ratelimits if you mean that, you dont have to worry

For Discord, possible. The problem is that I'm on a free host and the bot sends too many simultaneous requests for certain commands and the host's proxy blocks me (sometimes it's discord too but I think it just blocks the server's IP).

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 6:47 PM

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sounds like you should switch hosts

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what do you use

cobalt bone Apr 11, 2025, 6:47 PM

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sage tendon what do you use

katabump

cobalt bone Apr 11, 2025, 6:48 PM

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sage tendon sounds like you should switch hosts

I'd love to, but I can't afford one right now.

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:48 PM

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cobalt bone For Discord, possible. The problem is that I'm on a free host and the bot sends ...

you will not be able to do anything about that

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since as you say if other bots send too much requests you will also get rate limit

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 6:48 PM

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yea these free hosts are often just overcrowded and just reach the IP ratelimit, you literally cannot affect it

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i assume its free if it has those issues

cobalt bone Apr 11, 2025, 6:49 PM

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:/

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:49 PM

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if you want there is a french host with a free version for a month (but you can renew forever) with up to 3 panels pterodactyl

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ping will be around 80 but else its can be good

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 6:50 PM

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theres hosts for literally <1.50€ so Shrug_3 go for it if you can

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:50 PM

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its like 3 panels like this at max

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but everymonth the thing will be delete so you will need to do everything

cobalt bone Apr 11, 2025, 6:50 PM

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I can't pay...

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:50 PM

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"my" thing is free

cobalt bone Apr 11, 2025, 6:51 PM

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thinkCat why not

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:52 PM

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https://www.adkynet.com/en

adkynet.com

AdKyNet - Web hosting, VPS, game servers

AdKyNet is a web hosting company, virtual servers (VPS), Minecraft, Garry's Mod. Servers hosted in France. Reactive support. High performance hosting

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i didnt use it for years so idk how its working etc but if this can help you

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but again its not magic, you might get rate limit also (even if there is less chance cos its a small business)

cobalt bone Apr 11, 2025, 6:54 PM

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thanks !

cobalt bone Apr 11, 2025, 6:55 PM

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fresh sierra https://www.adkynet.com/en

Are there any modules that can be used to start several bots at the same time on the same server?

fresh sierra Apr 11, 2025, 6:55 PM

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cobalt bone Are there any modules that can be used to start several bots at the same time on...

if there are all on the same panel you can just restart the panel

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and it will restart everything so

elfin inlet Apr 11, 2025, 8:50 PM

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ctx.send_modal(Views.Feeder.FeederPopup())
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "F:\downloads!!\Coding\HSC_bot\src\cmds\setup.py", line 98, in __init__
    self.add_item(discord.InputText(
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TypeError: InputText.__init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'label'

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the docs say label is a required peram

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am I stupid

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class FeederPopup(ui.Modal):
                def __init__(self):
                    super().__init__(title="Feeder URL")

                    self.add_item(discord.InputText(
                            label="Feeder URL",
                            placeholder="https://meow.camera/#5422485483170589671",
                            style=discord.InputTextStyle.short,
                            required=True))
     ```

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 8:53 PM

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positional?

little cobalt Apr 11, 2025, 8:55 PM

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elfin inlet ``` ctx.send_modal(Views.Feeder.FeederPopup()) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^...

That is not how you send a modal

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 8:55 PM

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how do you

little cobalt Apr 11, 2025, 8:56 PM

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modal = TheModal()
await ctx.send_modal(modal)

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 8:57 PM

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but thats what they are doing? lol

little cobalt Apr 11, 2025, 8:57 PM

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sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 8:57 PM

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i dont see the difference?

little cobalt Apr 11, 2025, 8:58 PM

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you mean its imported from a file location in any way?

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 8:58 PM

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clearly lol

elfin inlet Apr 11, 2025, 9:19 PM

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little cobalt ```py modal = TheModal() await ctx.send_modal(modal) ```

Like toothy said, the only difference is I defined the modal class elsewhere and instantiated it inside of my send command. If it would help, I can send the modal definition too...

little cobalt Apr 11, 2025, 9:22 PM

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elfin inlet Like toothy said, the only difference is I defined the modal class elsewhere and...

Do you have anything else installed that causes this issue?

sage tendon Apr 11, 2025, 9:44 PM

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show your pip list

errant trout Apr 11, 2025, 11:19 PM

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elfin inlet ```py class FeederPopup(ui.Modal): def __init__(self): ...

discord.ui.InputText

elfin inlet Apr 12, 2025, 12:21 AM

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errant trout `discord.ui.InputText`

omg ty im an idiot

lethal loom Apr 12, 2025, 2:57 PM

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Hi, does anyone know why when I get self.bot.owner_id none in cog and not the id of the bot owner?

little cobalt Apr 12, 2025, 2:57 PM

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lethal loom Hi, does anyone know why when I get `self.bot.owner_id` none in cog and not the ...

Did you set the Owner ID at the bot?

lethal loom Apr 12, 2025, 2:57 PM

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hm....

little cobalt Apr 12, 2025, 2:58 PM

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Or did you even set at owner of the bot?

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 2:58 PM

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yippie the docs are down
and back

lethal loom Apr 12, 2025, 2:59 PM

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little cobalt Or did you even set at owner of the bot?

im not automaticly the owner i set it manu right?

little cobalt Apr 12, 2025, 2:59 PM

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https://docs.pycord.dev/de/master/api/clients.html#discord.Bot.owner_ids

Pycord

Client Objects

Bots: Attributes activity, allowed_mentions, app_emojis, application_flags, application_id, auto_sync_commands, cached_messages, cogs, debug_guilds, default_command_contexts, default_command_integr...

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 2:59 PM

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lethal loom Apr 12, 2025, 3:02 PM

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Okay, how can i set me as owner?

torn barn Apr 12, 2025, 3:19 PM

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owner_id=… on the bot/client constructor

echo wraith Apr 12, 2025, 5:14 PM

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Tbh if there's a V3 that manual owner id thing should be removed.

lapis dock Apr 12, 2025, 5:16 PM

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^ and owner-id and owner_ids should be merged

echo wraith Apr 12, 2025, 5:30 PM

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Yess

errant trout Apr 12, 2025, 6:00 PM

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agree with deprecating owner_id, but manually being able to set owner_ids is still useful for internal owner checks

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 6:03 PM

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would simplify checks anyway
narrows it down to if user.id in bot.owner_ids

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instead of needing to check both variables

errant trout Apr 12, 2025, 6:09 PM

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well you only need to check both if you set both

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 6:09 PM

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okay yea

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but in-lib ones if there are any

errant trout Apr 12, 2025, 6:10 PM

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the builtin bot.is_owner(user) will check both, if neither are set it will fetch application info and only set the latter

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actually

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it sets owner_ids if it's a team, otherwise it sets owner_id

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(either way just use the builtin)

little cobalt Apr 12, 2025, 8:10 PM

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Can I have 2 of the same events?

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 8:11 PM

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if you use listeners

little cobalt Apr 12, 2025, 8:11 PM

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It would be in a cog so yea, listeners

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 8:12 PM

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not two of the same in the same cog but that'd be pointless anyway

echo wraith Apr 12, 2025, 8:12 PM

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errant trout agree with deprecating `owner_id`, but manually being able to set `owner_ids` is...

I'm not saying it's not useful but imo it is too specific of a use case to be part of the core library, but whatever idrc

errant trout Apr 12, 2025, 8:23 PM

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echo wraith I'm not saying it's not useful but imo it is too specific of a use case to be pa...

idk how manually setting the bot owner is too specific

errant trout Apr 12, 2025, 8:23 PM

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sage tendon not two of the same in the same cog but that'd be pointless anyway

you can

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 8:23 PM

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oh, hm

errant trout Apr 12, 2025, 8:23 PM

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in the listener decorator, you can pass the name of any event instead of using the function name

echo wraith Apr 12, 2025, 8:27 PM

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errant trout idk how manually setting the bot owner is too specific

Not too specific but doesn't feel like it should be a core feature

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Like pycord is not a framework

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 8:27 PM

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its very common to make owner only commands

echo wraith Apr 12, 2025, 8:28 PM

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Yes it is but it should be up to the user to handle how they check that / use something from discord.utils

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Imo

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It should not be part of the bot class

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 8:28 PM

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why tho?

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its literally perfect
its the owners of the bot
why should it not be in the bot class

echo wraith Apr 12, 2025, 8:29 PM

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The fact that you can set it manually feels weird to me

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But whatever

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 8:30 PM

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if you have multiple people owning a bot

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or a managed bot

echo wraith Apr 12, 2025, 8:32 PM

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Yeah but in that case it's not "core" to me

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Idk how to explain

brazen flower Apr 12, 2025, 10:30 PM

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Hi, i want to use this with py-cord AppCommandContext
class discord.app_commands.AppCommandContext(*, guild=None, dm_channel=None, private_channel=None) can you help me please

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 10:36 PM

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that is not a thing in pycord

brazen flower Apr 12, 2025, 10:36 PM

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i can't use pycord and discord.py in same script

sage tendon Apr 12, 2025, 10:37 PM

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You have to pick one

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that is discord.py code, so either you keep using discord.py or you switch to pycord

brazen flower Apr 12, 2025, 10:38 PM

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ok, thanks

lapis dock Apr 12, 2025, 11:30 PM

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You dont need to use both either, each have approximately the same features

brazen flower Apr 12, 2025, 11:33 PM

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lapis dock You dont need to use both either, each have approximately the same features

do you know how to use py-cord to use commands in dm?

lapis dock Apr 12, 2025, 11:34 PM

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DM with other users or DM with the bot itself?

brazen flower Apr 12, 2025, 11:34 PM

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dm between 2 users

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like this

lapis dock Apr 12, 2025, 11:35 PM

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You need to make a user app for that, and then make sure you set the correct contexts and integration types for the command. Here is an example

rugged lodgeBOT Apr 12, 2025, 11:35 PM

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Here's the slash users example.

brazen flower Apr 12, 2025, 11:35 PM

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thanks you

buoyant eagle Apr 14, 2025, 4:06 PM

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how could i add in discord.Option the the type is the bot application commands?

sage tendon Apr 14, 2025, 4:18 PM

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Not possible directly

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what do you even need that for tho

halcyon dagger Apr 14, 2025, 5:39 PM

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possible that only certain discord UIDs can see slash commands?
Otherwise I would check if the UID is whitelisted to run the command and if not displays to the user "not authorized" or smth similar

sage tendon Apr 14, 2025, 5:40 PM

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Only via the integrations menu in the server settings

halcyon dagger Apr 14, 2025, 5:40 PM

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Okay, so if the bot is ran in direct msgs it is not possible?

sage tendon Apr 14, 2025, 5:41 PM

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Not to hide them, no
You can only do checks then

halcyon dagger Apr 14, 2025, 5:41 PM

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Ah okay thank you ❤️

sage tendon Apr 14, 2025, 5:41 PM

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of course you can also exclude the command from being used in DMs entirely but i think thats not what you want

halcyon dagger Apr 14, 2025, 5:42 PM

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no, the bot wouldnt really be used in servers, prolly just DMs

round heart Apr 14, 2025, 6:05 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

Tenor

nocturne jewel Apr 15, 2025, 2:39 PM

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there's any API limit or i can update channel status every ~1 second?

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 2:41 PM

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if its counted under the channel editing bucket its once every 10 minutes i think
try it out and see how far you get

lapis dock Apr 15, 2025, 2:42 PM

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I don't think it is, but it still has not been documented by discord, so it is still experimental

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Updating anything once per second seems way too often though

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 2:46 PM

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yea agree
its probably for a clock or counter

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 3:22 PM

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Is there any way to find out which file extension a role icon needs?

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I tried copying the exact code from my emoji saver which tries to get it from the URL, but it just ends up with no extension

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I feel like that's kind of hacky anyway

errant trout Apr 15, 2025, 5:01 PM

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sage tendon Is there any way to find out which file extension a role icon needs?

role icons are saved as png

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 5:01 PM

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huh
you sure?
if i inspect element it, the url is .webp

errant trout Apr 15, 2025, 5:03 PM

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the lib uses png, but it seems to be interchangable...? lol

lapis dock Apr 15, 2025, 5:07 PM

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Doesn't discord convert things to webp after you upload them?

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 5:08 PM

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i checked with a file type checker and the stuff i get from discord sure are PNGs

errant trout Apr 15, 2025, 5:10 PM

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ah right, for assets you can use any allowed extension and discord will return it in that format

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https://discord.com/developers/docs/reference#image-formatting-cdn-endpoints is a full list

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:38 PM

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about how many things are wrong here

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oh it just can't find the file lmao nvm

silk spire Apr 15, 2025, 7:39 PM

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Missing await?

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:40 PM

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that's a good point too

frail basin Apr 15, 2025, 7:41 PM

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autumn gust about how many things are wrong here

ctx typehint is wrong

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and you misspelled ephemeral

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:42 PM

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frail basin ctx typehint is wrong

typehint?

frail basin Apr 15, 2025, 7:42 PM

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in the function parameters

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ctx should be type hinted as discord.ApplicationContext

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:43 PM

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oh shit good point, damn you tab

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welp, what's wrong here

little cobalt Apr 15, 2025, 7:47 PM

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autumn gust welp, what's wrong here

Can you show the json?

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:47 PM

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oh

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I think I hit shift by accident

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I really should pay attention to small errors like this huh

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would you look at that, now that the json is actually written properly it can read it

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welp that's half of the progress, thanks gang

lapis dock Apr 15, 2025, 7:51 PM

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You do you, its your code after all. But I am going to leave this here for reference

sly karmaBOT Apr 15, 2025, 7:51 PM

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JSON is a convenient and easy-to-read data storage protocol that's widely accepted by most programming languages. However, we caution against its use for storing and retrieving data in an asynchronous environment like a Discord bot. Don’t use json!

It's a file-based data storage, which makes it vulnerable to race conditions
You'll need to implement your own synchronization primitives to avoid corrupting data
If you're not careful, you could accidentally wipe your entire JSON file.

Solution? Use a database. Recommended schema are SQLite, PostgreSQL, and MongoDB.

Async libraries exist on pypi for each of these
sqlite -- aiosqlite (or Danny's wrapper: asqlite)
postgresql -- asyncpg
mongodb -- motor
Databases organize your data into tables, and are fast at inserting, retrieving, and removing records
You can impose uniqueness constraints to ensure against duplication
The Python libraries enforce synchronization for you
The query language is intuitive, you can get running with simple queries in just a few hours!

little cobalt Apr 15, 2025, 7:52 PM

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autumn gust welp that's half of the progress, thanks gang

If you use VS Code, you could install for the errors the extension "Error Lens" from Alexander

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:52 PM

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lapis dock You do you, its your code after all. But I am going to leave this here for refer...

I'm only using it for private use, so idm using json

fresh sierra Apr 15, 2025, 7:52 PM

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autumn gust about how many things are wrong here

dont use file as its blocking, you should use aiofiles

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:52 PM

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also it's something I'm familiar with lmao

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:53 PM

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fresh sierra dont use file as its blocking, you should use aiofiles

so what do I do exactly then

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is it a library and then just as aiofile

fresh sierra Apr 15, 2025, 7:54 PM

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autumn gust so what do I do exactly then

pip install aiofiles, and then async with ... and await file.read()

silk spire Apr 15, 2025, 7:54 PM

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Aiofiles isn't really necessary unless your file is like is really big (GBs)

fresh sierra Apr 15, 2025, 7:54 PM

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always better to not have blocking code when using a bot discord

silk spire Apr 15, 2025, 7:55 PM

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Anything non async is blocking then

fresh sierra Apr 15, 2025, 7:55 PM

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but using a database might be better

silk spire Apr 15, 2025, 7:55 PM

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print too

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Definitely

fresh sierra Apr 15, 2025, 7:55 PM

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silk spire Anything non async is blocking then

ofc but you can imagine that he could use in his code with ... : and then a long code

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while print will always take the same amount of time

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:56 PM

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fresh sierra ofc but you can imagine that he could use in his code with ... : and then a long...

(all I use it is to get out data I actually need and then process it outside of that, kinda the reason I just globalled people instead of doing it inside with)

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why global? because idfk how to toss data up the chain

fresh sierra Apr 15, 2025, 7:57 PM

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learn database will always be a plus

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:57 PM

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all I know is how to toss it down the chain lmao

fresh sierra Apr 15, 2025, 7:57 PM

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and its really easy

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:57 PM

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I've tried in the past and I couldn't even figure out how to download it lmao

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probably because I couldn't figure out where the actual download button was on sqlite

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 7:57 PM

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just use sqlite

fresh sierra Apr 15, 2025, 7:57 PM

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autumn gust I've tried in the past and I couldn't even figure out how to download it lmao

pip install asqlite

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https://github.com/Rapptz/asqlite

GitHub

GitHub - Rapptz/asqlite: A simple async wrapper for sqlite3

A simple async wrapper for sqlite3. Contribute to Rapptz/asqlite development by creating an account on GitHub.

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:58 PM

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I will probably get it if I need it for something else and/or I run into issues, for now I think json will do

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 7:58 PM

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youll regret that

echo wraith Apr 15, 2025, 7:58 PM

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autumn gust about how many things are wrong here

.tag blocking

sly karmaBOT Apr 15, 2025, 7:58 PM

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autumn gust about how many things are wrong here

In asynchronous programming a blocking call is essentially all the parts of the function that are not await. Do not despair however, because not all forms of blocking are bad! Using blocking calls is inevitable, but you must work to make sure that you don’t excessively block functions. Remember, if you block for too long then your bot will freeze since it has not stopped the function’s execution at that point to do other things.

A common source of blocking for too long is something like time.sleep(). Don’t do that. Use asyncio.sleep() instead. Similar to this example:

# bad
time.sleep(10)

# good
await asyncio.sleep(10)

echo wraith Apr 15, 2025, 7:58 PM

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.tag rie

sly karmaBOT Apr 15, 2025, 7:58 PM

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You can run blocking code (such as PIL/Pillow) in an executor to run it in a separate thread: ```py
def my_blocking_func(*args):
...

@bot.command()
async def test_command(ctx):
ret = await bot.loop.run_in_executor(None, my_blocking_func, 'put', 'args', 'here')``` See the python documentation for more info.

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 7:59 PM

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then let me regret it and be forced to rewrite the code pls

fresh sierra Apr 15, 2025, 7:59 PM

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autumn gust I will probably get it if I need it for something else and/or I run into issues,...

when you will have to change that will be a nightmare

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believe me

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i did first json

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then sqlite

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then aiosqlite

echo wraith Apr 15, 2025, 7:59 PM

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autumn gust about how many things are wrong here

.tag nojson

sly karmaBOT Apr 15, 2025, 7:59 PM

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autumn gust about how many things are wrong here

JSON is a convenient and easy-to-read data storage protocol that's widely accepted by most programming languages. However, we caution against its use for storing and retrieving data in an asynchronous environment like a Discord bot. Don’t use json!

It's a file-based data storage, which makes it vulnerable to race conditions
You'll need to implement your own synchronization primitives to avoid corrupting data
If you're not careful, you could accidentally wipe your entire JSON file.

Solution? Use a database. Recommended schema are SQLite, PostgreSQL, and MongoDB.

Async libraries exist on pypi for each of these
sqlite -- aiosqlite (or Danny's wrapper: asqlite)
postgresql -- asyncpg
mongodb -- motor
Databases organize your data into tables, and are fast at inserting, retrieving, and removing records
You can impose uniqueness constraints to ensure against duplication
The Python libraries enforce synchronization for you
The query language is intuitive, you can get running with simple queries in just a few hours!

fresh sierra Apr 15, 2025, 7:59 PM

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and rewrite 10times the database of all ur code is horrible

lapis dock Apr 15, 2025, 8:00 PM

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fresh sierra pip install asqlite

I think that aiosqlite is more common

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 8:00 PM

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json is not a data storage format

fresh sierra Apr 15, 2025, 8:00 PM

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lapis dock I think that aiosqlite is more common

idk, i just edit the message according to the tag

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but i never used sqlite so

echo wraith Apr 15, 2025, 8:00 PM

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tortouaise o r emme

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is da best

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 8:01 PM

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I'm only upstuck on it being json because I know I can always just resort to using txt files

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 8:01 PM

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...wtf

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 8:01 PM

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no joke, was the first idea

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 8:01 PM

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why are people so allergic to databases

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 8:01 PM

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"literally what's stopping me from just using txt files to print this text"

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sounds like more effort than it is probably

echo wraith Apr 15, 2025, 8:01 PM

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sage tendon json is not a data storage format

it's an object notation

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 10:16 PM

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am I understanding buttons correctly?

await ctx.respond("Are You Sure?", discord.Button(custom_id="y", label="Yes", style="success"), discord.Button(custom_id="n", label="No", style="danger")

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(this is just me trying to mentally explain buttons to myself, and I have no idea if I'm correct or not lmao)

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and I presume then it's just if y: if n:?

echo wraith Apr 15, 2025, 10:19 PM

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autumn gust and I presume then it's just `if y:` `if n:`?

Uh oh

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Not at all

rugged lodgeBOT Apr 15, 2025, 10:19 PM

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Here's the confirm example.

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 10:20 PM

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oh SifHollow

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only question I have is: is there a way to avoid the entire self thing?

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like, using return or something?

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or is the self thingy referring to just the button

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because my bot has no __init__ stuff in it, so idk if that's an issue or not?

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 10:29 PM

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its the view.

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 10:29 PM

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ah got it, thanks

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 10:30 PM

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look into OOP in python, the entire library is based on it

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 10:45 PM

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ty, also for interactions like await interaction.response.send_message I look here in the docs, right? https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/models.html#interactions

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trying to confirm because I still have no idea how to navigate it😭

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 10:49 PM

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i just look up whatever class i need and go from there

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:02 PM

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buttons don't appear? what have I missed, does it need the interaction?

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:03 PM

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yes

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:03 PM

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ah, got it

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does it have to respond with a message or can I just ignore it or do anything else?

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:03 PM

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a button has to respond with something when pressed

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either a modal or a message

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:04 PM

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modal?

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so can it do something stupid and useless like react to the ephemeral message?

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(if you can even do that)

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:05 PM

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no

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:05 PM

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welp, rip

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well, I added the interaction but it still doesn't seem to add the buttons?

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no traceback in console

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:08 PM

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are you sure you're importing the right thing

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and show the command code again

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:10 PM

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sage tendon and show the command code again

entire command is like this (ignore the questionable code)

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:10 PM

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sage tendon are you sure you're importing the right thing

am I ever sure of anything (sarcasm, not really?)

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watch the issue be me accidentally capitalizing something again

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:11 PM

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autumn gust am I ever sure of anything (sarcasm, not really?)

check

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:11 PM

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wait, can ephemeral messages even have buttons?

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:11 PM

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yes

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:11 PM

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alright so that's not an issue

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I'm pretty sure I'm importing the right thing?

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everything seems to check out

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:13 PM

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ctrl+click follow your Confirm() and see if its the right class

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and make sure you restarted your bot

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:15 PM

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ok funny part is, it still times out lmao

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:15 PM

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sage tendon ctrl+click follow your Confirm() and see if its the right class

yeah it brings me back to my class

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:17 PM

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what times out?

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:17 PM

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sage tendon what times out?

the interaction

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:17 PM

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also really dont use globals unless absolutely unavoidable..

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:17 PM

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as if buttons were there but I didn't click them

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:17 PM

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autumn gust the interaction

show

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:17 PM

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sage tendon show

like it just does the timed out message

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:18 PM

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show

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:18 PM

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stupid idea

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:18 PM

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can you do view=Confirm() directly in the response

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yea

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:18 PM

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lmao

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nope, didn't work

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so it's an issue somewhere here

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:19 PM

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are you actually restarting your bot

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:19 PM

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yeah

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ctrl+pause break in the terminal and relaunching it

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:19 PM

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wtf is ctrl pause break

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:19 PM

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terminates whatever is currently running

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:19 PM

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tf

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i always use ctrl+c

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:20 PM

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oh that's a thing?

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lmao

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I hit ctrl+pause break

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:20 PM

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where is your view class

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:21 PM

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view class?

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:21 PM

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yea

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:21 PM

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that's a thing?

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:21 PM

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...your confirm view class

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:21 PM

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oh wait

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you mean view=Confirm() or?

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:21 PM

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where is your Confirm class located

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:22 PM

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uuuh... in the same file if that's what you're asking?
it's outside any command

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at the top below bot = discord.Bot()

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...wait

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nope that wasn't it

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tried moving it above it, but nope

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:24 PM

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no idea tbfh

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can you send your pip list

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wait, since you are using vsc... are you actually saving the file before restarting the bot

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:25 PM

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yes

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aiohappyeyeballs 2.4.4
aiohttp          3.11.11
aiosignal        1.3.2
attrs            25.1.0
audioop-lts      0.2.1
frozenlist       1.5.0
GPUtil           1.4.0
idna             3.10
multidict        6.1.0
pip              25.0
propcache        0.2.1
psutil           7.0.0
py-cord          2.6.1
yarl             1.18.3

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:25 PM

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bruh
idk man
you have only one file right

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:25 PM

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yes

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hmmm... question: so intents, right

sage tendon Apr 15, 2025, 11:26 PM

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just send it here

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:26 PM

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do buttons need it

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like, do you need to define intents

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I believe that was a thing I had to do a while back, and didn't do here

autumn gust Apr 15, 2025, 11:27 PM

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sage tendon just send it here

let me try to tinker with some things, then I will when I'm out of ideas because I think I might've found the issue?

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I just realized, the example for the buttons is like 3 years old isn't it?

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interesting...

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???? it suddenly has an issue with this

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????????????

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I'm so confused?

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oh alright reinstalling pycord fixed it lmao?

autumn gust Apr 16, 2025, 12:06 AM

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sage tendon just send it here

alright, I've spent a while trying to tinker, do you mind if I send you the file in dms?

little cobalt Apr 16, 2025, 12:08 AM

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autumn gust ????????????

Can you show the pip list?

autumn gust Apr 16, 2025, 12:08 AM

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little cobalt Can you show the pip list?

I fixed it alr

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reinstalling py-cord solved it

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still fighting buttons tho

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something I just realized is that I don't think I'm even adding the buttons to the view?

sage tendon Apr 16, 2025, 12:12 AM

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the decorator handles that

autumn gust Apr 16, 2025, 12:13 AM

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ah

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I'm actually so lost

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OH MY FUCKING GOD

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I THINK I FOUND IT???

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I WAS DEFINING THE FUCKING BUTTONS INSIDE INIT

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DESPERATE CHAT GPT ATTEMPT TO THE FUCKING RESCUE I SWEAR TO GOD

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AND IT WORKS PERFECTLY

sage tendon Apr 16, 2025, 12:30 AM

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... you weren't tho?

autumn gust Apr 16, 2025, 12:30 AM

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sage tendon ... you weren't tho?

I was

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look at the indents

sage tendon Apr 16, 2025, 12:30 AM

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bruhh

autumn gust Apr 16, 2025, 12:30 AM

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is the correct way

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1 hour only to find out it was my indents 😭

little cobalt Apr 16, 2025, 12:31 AM

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autumn gust is the correct way

yea

autumn gust Apr 16, 2025, 12:31 AM

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little cobalt yea

yep, and I had it like this

flat wind Apr 16, 2025, 8:42 AM

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is a thread delete raised by an on_raw_thread_update event ?

rugged lodgeBOT Apr 16, 2025, 8:47 AM

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Searched in pycord

discord.on_thread_delete
discord.on_raw_thread_delete

silk spire Apr 16, 2025, 8:48 AM

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I don't see why it would fire an update event

flat wind Apr 16, 2025, 8:48 AM

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I know there is this event too, but a delete is an update technically 🤷
that's why I ask

silk spire Apr 16, 2025, 8:49 AM

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Not really. Update means something has changed regarding the thread like the archive status. Delete means.. it's gone.

flat wind Apr 16, 2025, 8:49 AM

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okay, thanks

silk spire Apr 16, 2025, 8:49 AM

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Tias I guess

flat wind Apr 16, 2025, 8:50 AM

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I will check. To make sure, I have added a if thread is None in my code (after trying to get / fetch it)

opal swan Apr 16, 2025, 12:09 PM

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hi i have this error in the console : discord.errors.HTTPException: 400 Bad Request (error code: 50006): Cannot send an empty message

messages = await text_channel.history(limit=10).flatten()
            for message in messages:
                  async with aiohttp.ClientSession() as session:
                          webhook = discord.Webhook.from_url(webhook.url, session=session)
                                await            webhook.send(message.content)

echo wraith Apr 16, 2025, 12:10 PM

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opal swan hi i have this error in the console : discord.errors.HTTPException: 400 Bad Requ...

probably the original message contains just an attachment so its content is empty

fresh sierra Apr 16, 2025, 12:10 PM

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Also take in account defer

opal swan Apr 16, 2025, 12:11 PM

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forgot how to remove an attachments in this case

fresh sierra Apr 16, 2025, 12:11 PM

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For message in message, if not message.contrnt continue

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If you only want to send the text

opal swan Apr 16, 2025, 12:12 PM

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ty

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ty again it work correctly !

round heart Apr 16, 2025, 9:34 PM

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I don't use JSON as a storage format, I use YAML. Much better.
(Apparently that was a conversation from yesterday; I'm late)

echo wraith Apr 16, 2025, 9:44 PM

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How can one manually get a message from the message cache

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I found it

nocturne jewel Apr 16, 2025, 10:34 PM

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how can i send a message like every sunday at 16:00

lofty parcel Apr 16, 2025, 10:34 PM

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tasks.loop

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You can set specific datetimes

errant trout Apr 16, 2025, 10:36 PM

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well you can set a specific datetime.time, you'd still have to check the current day

nocturne jewel Apr 16, 2025, 10:37 PM

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i'll see it, thanks!

lofty parcel Apr 17, 2025, 12:50 AM

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Iirc a cron lib also exists?

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But dunno if it works with pycord

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Last time I tried it didn't, or maybe i was dumb

round heart Apr 17, 2025, 7:32 AM

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lofty parcel Iirc a cron lib also exists?

aiocron. It works with pycord if you set it via aiocron.crontab(...) (the decorator does not work within classes (e.g. cogs))

quartz umbra Apr 17, 2025, 8:39 AM

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I am so confused. How can this command: https://pastebin.com/St7eMNYC
have this output? (See screenshot). It's not the 2nd embed as the 1st line differs and the debug log isn't printed. I'm baffled.
Kits == 1 btw
Where is the embed even coming from xD

Pastebin

@commands.slash_command(name="sendwaitlistembed", description="...

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

rugged lodgeBOT Apr 17, 2025, 8:39 AM

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https://pastebin.com/raw/St7eMNYC

sly karmaBOT Apr 17, 2025, 8:40 AM

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Tag not found.

Did you mean...
vc-autosave

echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 8:40 AM

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quartz umbra I am so confused. How can this command: https://pastebin.com/St7eMNYC have this ...

.tag vc-autosave

sly karmaBOT Apr 17, 2025, 8:40 AM

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quartz umbra I am so confused. How can this command: https://pastebin.com/St7eMNYC have this ...

Look at this StackOverflow post to learn how to setup auto-saving in VS Code.

quartz umbra Apr 17, 2025, 8:41 AM

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what does that have to do?

echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 8:41 AM

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Make sure you save your file

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Also

echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 8:42 AM

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echo wraith Also

That your logging level is debug or lower

quartz umbra Apr 17, 2025, 8:42 AM

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I'm 99% certain its saved as there's no white dot next to the filename xD

echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 8:42 AM

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.tag logging

sly karmaBOT Apr 17, 2025, 8:42 AM

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https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/logging.html

Pycord

Setting Up Logging

Pycord logs errors and debug information via the logging python module. It is strongly recommended that the logging module is configured, as no errors or warnings will be output if it is not set up...

quartz umbra Apr 17, 2025, 8:42 AM

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echo wraith That your logging level is debug or lower

What do you mean by this?

echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 8:42 AM

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sly karma https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/logging.html

Read this

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And set it to logging.DEBUG instead of INFO

quartz umbra Apr 17, 2025, 8:44 AM

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echo wraith And set it to logging.DEBUG instead of INFO

okay... what do i do with that? I'm a bit stuck

echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 8:45 AM

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quartz umbra okay... what do i do with that? I'm a bit stuck

Did you set up logging somewhere in your code ?

quartz umbra Apr 17, 2025, 8:45 AM

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echo wraith Did you set up logging somewhere in your code ?

I mean, Py-cord's debug logging is now showing, but idk what to do with that

echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 8:46 AM

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quartz umbra I mean, Py-cord's debug logging is now showing, but idk what to do with that

Well now your own debug logging will show too

quartz umbra Apr 17, 2025, 8:46 AM

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echo wraith Well now your own debug logging will show too

no no, I am using a different library called loguru and my logs (including debug logs) are already showing

echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 8:46 AM

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quartz umbra no no, I am using a different library called loguru and my logs (including debug...

Uh ok alright

quartz umbra Apr 17, 2025, 8:47 AM

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echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 8:48 AM

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quartz umbra I am so confused. How can this command: https://pastebin.com/St7eMNYC have this ...

What line differs even

quartz umbra Apr 17, 2025, 8:49 AM

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From the embed? This:

From the dropdown menu, please select the kit you wish to test in.
That's written in the embed, but not displayed. I had this embed previously, but not anymore (aka i deleted it for debugging)

echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 8:50 AM

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Ok are you sure the bot isn't running twice?

quartz umbra Apr 17, 2025, 8:50 AM

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this always happens...

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thanks

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xD

echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 8:52 AM

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Nw

quartz umbra Apr 17, 2025, 12:56 PM

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hi! does anyone know why guild.get_role might be None? I'm 99% certain I'm using the correct role IDs, yet it doesn't work. This is the code in question:

tester_role = guild.get_role(tester_id)
        sr_tester_role = guild.get_role(sr_tester_id)
        if tester_role is None or sr_tester_role is None:
            log.error(f"Tester or Sr. Tester role not found. IDs: {tester_id}, {sr_tester_id}")
            await interaction.respond("An error occurred while processing your request.", ephemeral=True)
            return

This is the console log: ```py
2025-04-17 13:55:02.795 | ERROR | views.queue:create_high_ticket:125 - Tester or Sr. Tester role not found. IDs: 1362395334302498848, 13623953998847714792025-04-17 13:55:02.795 | ERROR | views.queue:create_high_ticket:125 - Tester or Sr. Tester role not found. IDs: 1362395334302498848, 1362395399884771479

Why is this happening? Is it an intent / permission issue?

little cobalt Apr 17, 2025, 1:10 PM

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quartz umbra hi! does anyone know why `guild.get_role` might be None? I'm 99% certain I'm usi...

.tag get_x

sly karmaBOT Apr 17, 2025, 1:10 PM

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quartz umbra hi! does anyone know why `guild.get_role` might be None? I'm 99% certain I'm usi...

Any function that starts with get_ in Py-cord is retrieving the related object from your bots cache. If the object is not in the bots cache the get_ method will return None. Because of this behavior you should check if the get_x method is None and if it is use the fetch_x method.

Why Is Using fetch_ Without Using get_ First Bad?
The fetch_ method makes a call to the discord API. This API call is unneeded if you already have the information. It will also make your command take longer because it will have to send and than wait for a response from the discord API. It will also contribute to the discord APIs global rate limit of 50 requests per second.

What Is Cache?
The cache is a temporary storage inside your bot. It holds many objects from members to messages. When you restart your bot the cache will be empty. When the cache is full it will delete older objects to make space for the new objects.

sage tendon Apr 17, 2025, 6:21 PM

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Is there any way to get a "clean" attachment url without the whole ex= nonsense at the end? For an API I use i need a clean one without any query params

fresh sierra Apr 17, 2025, 6:23 PM

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sage tendon Is there any way to get a "clean" attachment url without the whole ex= nonsense ...

Maybe just remove everything after the .png or whatever it is

sage tendon Apr 17, 2025, 6:23 PM

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doesnt work

torn barn Apr 17, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Use yarl.URL and extract the clean url

sage tendon Apr 17, 2025, 6:30 PM

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I already said just removing the query params doesnt work

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nevermind it, i found another problem first lol

echo wraith Apr 17, 2025, 6:41 PM

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sage tendon Is there any way to get a "clean" attachment url without the whole ex= nonsense ...

It's not nonsense and I'm pretty sure the attachment won't load if you remove them

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#discord-api-updates message

sage tendon Apr 17, 2025, 6:43 PM

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yes, as i just said
twice

fresh sierra Apr 17, 2025, 7:18 PM

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sage tendon doesnt work

Can you give an example of url ?

sage tendon Apr 17, 2025, 7:18 PM

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no nvm it for now the issue is bigger than the url anyway lol

fresh sierra Apr 17, 2025, 9:11 PM

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does @tasks.loop overlap or wait until finish to go to the next itinaration ?

fiery fable Apr 18, 2025, 8:11 AM

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once i do guild.fetch_member() its going to be cached or not?

echo wraith Apr 18, 2025, 8:16 AM

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fiery fable once i do guild.fetch_member() its going to be cached or not?

I don't think so but am not 💯 sure

torn barn Apr 18, 2025, 8:21 AM

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No, fetch_ calls don’t cache anything

torn barn Apr 18, 2025, 8:22 AM

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fresh sierra does @tasks.loop overlap or wait until finish to go to the next itinaration ?

I think it overlaps it, but try it and see

fiery fable Apr 18, 2025, 8:32 AM

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torn barn No, fetch_ calls don’t cache anything

but wouldnt that be good because if you have chunk_guilds_at_startup enabled you dont have anything cahced at the beginning and could slowly cache everything

torn barn Apr 18, 2025, 8:32 AM

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fetch_ calls have incomplete information

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Only things cached are the ones received via gateway, which have all the information you need

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chunk_guilds_at_startup doesn’t make the bot call fetch_members on every guild, it uses the gateway to request all members of each guild

silk spire Apr 18, 2025, 8:59 AM

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fresh sierra does @tasks.loop overlap or wait until finish to go to the next itinaration ?

Pretty sure it waits

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 9:59 AM

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torn barn I think it overlaps it, but try it and see

after test it does not

silk spire Apr 18, 2025, 10:27 AM

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Someone should document that tbh

little cobalt Apr 18, 2025, 10:35 AM

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torn barn fetch_ calls have incomplete information

Do you have an example for that?

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Usually fetch_ is an API call to Discord

torn barn Apr 18, 2025, 10:50 AM

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Yes, I know

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Example is on members, the user object can (and is usually) missing fields that are received via gateway only

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This can include, for example, guild_banner, or user fields

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Can’t reproduce rn but when I can I will

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 11:44 AM

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why does fetch doesnt cache after ?

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 11:51 AM

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silk spire Someone should document that tbh

yeah, and maybe have an arg for it can overlap if needed

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what do you think about that ?

silk spire Apr 18, 2025, 12:07 PM

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Sounds good to me

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 12:39 PM

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torn barn fetch_ calls have incomplete information

ehm, no I don't think

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you have to fetch in certain situations to get certain info

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 12:43 PM

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sage tendon ehm, no I don't think

Fetch guild doesn’t return everything

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 12:43 PM

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what not

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 12:45 PM

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sage tendon what not

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 12:45 PM

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hm

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well makes sense ig

torn barn Apr 18, 2025, 12:53 PM

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sage tendon you _have_ to fetch in certain situations to get certain info

no, actually, everything available on the fetch_ calls is received via gateway, but not everything received via gateway is available on fetch_ calls

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 1:24 PM

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Strictly speaking that isn't true either, but yeah close enough

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 1:54 PM

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If a button has a custom_id set, how come button.is_persistent() returns false?

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little cobalt Apr 18, 2025, 1:55 PM

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frail basin If a button has a custom_id set, how come button.is_persistent() returns false?

Did you add the button to a view and set the view persistent?

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 1:55 PM

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yes and yes

little cobalt Apr 18, 2025, 1:55 PM

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with timeout=None?

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 1:56 PM

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I added the button to the view and its timeout is set to None

little cobalt Apr 18, 2025, 1:56 PM

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frail basin

why is there a =?

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 1:56 PM

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f string

little cobalt Apr 18, 2025, 1:57 PM

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?

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 1:57 PM

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if you add = to the end of an f-string variable it will print like this

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thats just the logging statement anyways

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 1:58 PM

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checked the code and it seems fine

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did you use discord.ui.Button for the button ? or select ?

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 1:58 PM

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I used the correct button class

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 1:58 PM

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self._provided_custom_id = custom_id is not None
that's how it is setup

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yeah really strange

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are you on master ?

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 1:59 PM

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2.6.1

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 2:00 PM

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frail basin 2.6.1

can you try on master to see if this still occurs ,

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 2:01 PM

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I am not setting the custom id during the initial button creation actually

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a bit after, but still before adding it to the view.

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Might be that

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 2:02 PM

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frail basin Might be that

yep

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but pycord should handle that, you might want to open a pr to add this change

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 2:03 PM

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fresh sierra `self._provided_custom_id = custom_id is not None` that's how it is setup

this is only during the init

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 2:03 PM

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fresh sierra but pycord should handle that, you might want to open a pr to add this change

The custom_id's setter doesnt

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ill make an issue

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 2:24 PM

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https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/issues/2766

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 2:30 PM

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frail basin https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/issues/2766

i'll take a look in 5min

little cobalt Apr 18, 2025, 2:31 PM

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frail basin https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/issues/2766

where did you add the view to a persistent view?

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 2:31 PM

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little cobalt where did you add the view to a persistent view?

you mean the button?

little cobalt Apr 18, 2025, 2:31 PM

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no, I mean the view

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Where did you add the view to a persistent view

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Did you add it at the on_ready event?

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 2:33 PM

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little cobalt where did you add the view to a persistent view?

I dont quite understand how thats relevant. Adding the view to the bot shouldn't have any effect on whether the button itself is persistent.

lofty parcel Apr 18, 2025, 2:34 PM

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Views are persistent, not the button itself

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 2:34 PM

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discord.ui.Button classes have an .is_persistent() function

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 2:35 PM

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fresh sierra this is only during the init

fixing this, fixes the whole issue

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 2:35 PM

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little cobalt Did you add it at the `on_ready` event?

but yes.

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 2:40 PM

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Im in the train so I have no connection rn, ill do it when I can

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 2:51 PM

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frail basin https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/issues/2766

@errant trout since the component v2 are coming, is there a point of fixing this now ?

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if yes i'll do a pr

frail basin Apr 18, 2025, 2:51 PM

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Is there even an ETA for v2?

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I didnt see any official announcement yet

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 2:52 PM

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i'll just include it in the v2 pr

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 2:52 PM

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frail basin Is there even an ETA for v2?

no idea but ig it will be before 2.7

lapis dock Apr 18, 2025, 2:56 PM

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frail basin I didnt see any official announcement yet

I think the unofficial ETA is within the next week or 2. But we know how all the other ETAs went XD

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 2:56 PM

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~~the unofficial ETA is today~~

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 3:01 PM

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you mean from discord or

echo wraith Apr 18, 2025, 3:12 PM

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sage tendon you mean from discord or

It was Monday then Tuesday then soon ™

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From discord

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 3:46 PM

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experiment gate is being lifted like right now lol

echo wraith Apr 18, 2025, 3:47 PM

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OMFG YAAAY

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 3:54 PM

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wdym experiment gate

lapis dock Apr 18, 2025, 4:26 PM

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Probably the experiment that allows it on the test guilds

flat wind Apr 18, 2025, 4:51 PM

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is it possible to fetch a message object of a message ID without knowing the channel associated ?
I know the guild but not the channel.

lofty parcel Apr 18, 2025, 4:52 PM

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flat wind is it possible to fetch a message object of a message ID without knowing the cha...

Nope

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You need a channel

flat wind Apr 18, 2025, 4:53 PM

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okay, because I have multiple channels (like a list of it) but I don't know exactly in which channel the message have been sent.
So I should do a for loop until I find it ?

lofty parcel Apr 18, 2025, 4:54 PM

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That'd be the only way yeah

flat wind Apr 18, 2025, 4:55 PM

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okay thanks

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 5:09 PM

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save that info next time

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 5:25 PM

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errant trout experiment gate is being lifted like right now lol

merged and queued for release

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 5:26 PM

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will 2.7 have components v2?

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 5:27 PM

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the entire reason 2.7 hasn't released is because we thought v2 would release a month ago lol

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the pr is more or less done

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 5:27 PM

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so, days?

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 5:27 PM

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should be yeah

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 5:27 PM

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yippie

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please dont tell me anything's breaking

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 5:28 PM

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no but we will fully break it in v3

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(mainly forcing users to create ActionRow for v1 components)

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 5:29 PM

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will views be easier or just different

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or harder

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 5:29 PM

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probably more verbose? but it will hopefully make more sense

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 5:29 PM

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even more verbose?

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 5:30 PM

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right now the entire row system is too simple which made v2 compatability a pain

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it's very basic right now lol

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 5:30 PM

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well as long as 2.7 comes out soon..

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 5:30 PM

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(i mean too simple for the user, internally it's hell because it's doing stuff like automatically calculating item positions)

sage tendon Apr 18, 2025, 5:30 PM

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is it like grid views in websites?

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 5:31 PM

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i guesssss? only buttons can be grids though

lofty parcel Apr 18, 2025, 5:34 PM

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Didn't know components were that complicated

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Why does it need to calculate item positions

errant trout Apr 18, 2025, 5:34 PM

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the current design of Views is that you just do add_item

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but this ignores the existence of the ActionRow component; they can have up to 5 buttons or 1 select, and also exist in the V2 space

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because ActionRow can exist with other V2 components, we have to work around the existing system that uses weights and has various library-sided checks for full compatability

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in v3, we'll likely force users to add ActionRow to the view and then add Select/Button to the row, instead of just having a row kwarg

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that strategy is also more in-line with how Container and Section are used in v2 components

fresh sierra Apr 18, 2025, 6:20 PM

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Hope 2.7 will be released with pr ;)

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Does all valid pr will be merge or only some of them ?

quartz umbra Apr 18, 2025, 10:48 PM

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hi! can someone help me figure out why @commands.has_any_role() isn't working as I intended? This is my code: ```py
@commands.slash_command(name="start", description="Start the queue for a kit in a region.")
@commands.has_any_role(*get_tester_role_ids())
async def start(self, ctx, kit: discord.Option(str, choices=CONFIG.get('kits')) = None, region: discord.Option(str, choices=CONFIG.get('regions')) = None):
await ctx.respond("Hello world")

This is the `get_tester_role-ids()` method (not in a class): ```py
def get_tester_role_ids():
    """
    Get the tester role IDs from the configuration.
    """
    sr_tester_id = CONFIG.get('roles', {}).get('sr_tester')
    tester_id = CONFIG.get('roles', {}).get('tester')
    if sr_tester_id is None or tester_id is None:
        log.warning("Tester role IDs not found in configuration.")
        return None
    return sr_tester_id, tester_id

I know that the get_tester_role_ids() method is working as intended since I have set up global error handling, which displays the required roles (MissingAnyRoles.missing_roles) correctly. I use the command with both of the roles yet I'm told I don't have permission. Why might this be happening?

torn barn Apr 18, 2025, 10:49 PM

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Make sure you pass the ids as integers and not strings

quartz umbra Apr 18, 2025, 10:50 PM

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torn barn Make sure you pass the ids as integers and not strings

second time i made this mistake in this project 0-0

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thanks that was it

little cobalt Apr 19, 2025, 12:01 AM

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quartz umbra hi! can someone help me figure out why `@commands.has_any_role()` isn't working ...

Keep in mind, if you use choices, that you have to restart the whole bot if you add new stuff to the list

lapis dock Apr 19, 2025, 12:05 AM

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My guess is CONFIG is intended to be a constant in this context.

flat wind Apr 19, 2025, 7:23 PM

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is there a way to get the thread.starting_message if we don't have the message in cache ?
Like a way to fetch it in the on_thread_create event

lapis dock Apr 19, 2025, 7:40 PM

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The thread ID id the message ID when created from a message. You can get the channel from the thread.parent or thread.parent_id if not cached

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Then you can fetch the message

flat wind Apr 19, 2025, 9:36 PM

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lapis dock Then you can fetch the message

I found an other way, using the thread.last_message and make sure the MessageType is default. If there was no starting_message, then the last_message is the MessageType.thread_created

lapis dock Apr 19, 2025, 9:37 PM

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that would only work for threads with no messages tho, wouldent it?

flat wind Apr 19, 2025, 9:37 PM

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yeah, but that's for the event on_thread_create, so it is always a new thread

lapis dock Apr 19, 2025, 9:38 PM

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ah ok

flat wind Apr 19, 2025, 9:38 PM

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if the thread was created using the /thread command, then the last_message is MessageType.thread_created, and if we made the thread using the right click on a message, it is a MessageType.default

errant trout Apr 19, 2025, 10:53 PM

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you can get the oldest message of any channel with await channel.history(after=discord.Object(1), limit=1).flatten()[0]

lapis dock Apr 19, 2025, 11:01 PM

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For threads my option would be a bit simpler

errant trout Apr 19, 2025, 11:10 PM

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yeah but that assumes the thread starting message exists

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and starting_message only applies to public threads

round heart Apr 20, 2025, 3:14 AM

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errant trout you can get the oldest message of any channel with `await channel.history(after=...

What is discord.Object(1); def the first time I've ever seen that class referenced

errant trout Apr 20, 2025, 3:14 AM

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Object is a placeholder for any snowflake

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if you ever see Snowflake in docs, it means you can pass any object that has a discord ID

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e.g. in something like history you might find it useful to pass a Message to before or after; if you don't have an actual message object but you have the ID, you can just stuff it into Object

round heart Apr 20, 2025, 3:20 AM

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Ahhh, okay; I was just going to ask why it couldn't take a literal 1 since Snowflakes are (more or less) integers, but I do see that Snowflake is defined as a Protocol class.

errant trout Apr 20, 2025, 3:21 AM

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i guess for the most part it's to avoid having separate parsing for integers in the many functions that accept Snowflakes

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 3:49 AM

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I have always wondered why it is not discord.Snowflake

errant trout Apr 20, 2025, 4:02 AM

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Snowflake is the lower level protocol, Object implements it

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 4:04 AM

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oh, so it is a think 😅

frail basin Apr 20, 2025, 9:19 AM

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import discord
from discord.ui import View, Container
bot = discord.Bot(intents=discord.Intents.all())
import logging
logging.basicConfig(level=logging.DEBUG)

second_container = 2

class TestView(View):
    def __init__(self):
        super().__init__(timeout=None)

        c1 = Container(color=discord.Color.red())

        count = 0
        for i in range(10):
            s = discord.ui.Select(placeholder=f"{i*25+1} - {(i+1)*25}")
            for _ in range(25):
                count += 1
                s.add_option(label=f"Option-{count}")
                
            c1.add_item(s)

        self.add_item(c1)

        
        c2 = Container(color=discord.Color.red())
        
        for i in range(second_container):
            s = discord.ui.Select(placeholder=f"{i*25+1} - {(i+1)*25}")
            for _ in range(25):
                count += 1
                s.add_option(label=f"Option-{count}")
                
            c2.add_item(s)
        self.add_item(c2)

    

@bot.event
async def on_ready():
    print(f"Logged in as {bot.user} (ID: {bot.user.id})") # type: ignore
    print("------")

@bot.slash_command(name="test")
async def test_modal(ctx: discord.ApplicationContext):
    await ctx.defer()
    await ctx.respond(view=TestView())

import os
# from dotenv import load_dotenv
# load_dotenv()

bot.run(os.getenv("TOKEN"))

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Setting second_container to 1 / 2 works as expected, 3 / 4 silently fails, 5 throws a HTTPException

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And if I dont defer the interaction then 3 / 4 results in an Unkown interaction / This interaction failed

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I assume this would be something to do with discord and not the lib? Just based off of the HTTP status codes

errant trout Apr 20, 2025, 11:13 AM

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frail basin I assume this would be something to do with discord and not the lib? Just based ...

yes, if you try to stuff too much into components discord won't bother trying to work with it

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(even below the hard limits they set)

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 2:08 PM

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frail basin ```python import discord from discord.ui import View, Container bot = discord.Bo...

in your test_modal command, why do you defer then instantly respond anyway?

frail basin Apr 20, 2025, 2:10 PM

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sage tendon in your test_modal command, why do you defer then instantly respond anyway?

I was testing to see if that would show different results (and it did).

My production bot does heavy querying for most commands anyways so I might aswell defer in the test bot too.

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 2:11 PM

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Yea just jumped into my eye because the function is called test_modal, and you cannot defer an interaction if you want to send an actual modal

frail basin Apr 20, 2025, 2:11 PM

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Thats just named that way cause I reused the same file as one of my issue MRC-s

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 2:42 PM

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frail basin ```python import discord from discord.ui import View, Container bot = discord.Bo...

5 is expected to fail because you would have 32 components when the maximum if 30.
You have 2 containers, then you have 15 total select menus. Each select menu needs to be in an action row (which pycord does for you) but this counts as 2 components, so it is 15*2. Also according to lala's docs you cant have more then 5 actions rows per message so I am surprised that the first container works at all

frail basin Apr 20, 2025, 2:43 PM

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errant trout Apr 20, 2025, 2:43 PM

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5 per message is the none-v2 limit

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message.components.max_length = 10
message.components.total_nested_components_in_tree = 30
section.components.max_length = 3
media_gallery.items.max_length = 10
container.components.max_length = 10

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(MediaGallery items are not considered components)

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 3:05 PM

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Ah ok

round heart Apr 20, 2025, 4:52 PM

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Are Containers the only entities that can have a color? Is it Containers that are limited to 5?
Or is it more like Embeds where it's 10?

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 5:16 PM

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Yeah, containers are the only thing with color. The 5 limit is for action rows in non-v2 messages.

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Hopefully I answered the second part of your question

lofty parcel Apr 20, 2025, 5:19 PM

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I assume non-v2 messages will be deprecated at some point?

fresh sierra Apr 20, 2025, 5:20 PM

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frail basin

waouw 250 options that a lot

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and is this inside an embed ?

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i'll have to rewrite everything to make it works with the new thing

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is it easy to do the migration or its completly different ?

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 5:23 PM

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lofty parcel I assume non-v2 messages will be deprecated at some point?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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That is going to be my first question in the API updates thread for it

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"Is this supposed to be an alternative for embeds or are embeds going to be phased out over time and all bots using embeds should switch over?"

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 5:25 PM

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fresh sierra and is this inside an embed ?

It is inside a container. I would say that the transfer is not too difficult but it is not a drop in replacement either

lofty parcel Apr 20, 2025, 5:25 PM

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My bet is, they will make us switch

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Because they've always said embeds were not really meant for bots

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 5:25 PM

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The big thing right now is pages does not work without some major changes

lofty parcel Apr 20, 2025, 5:26 PM

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Guh

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Someone's gotta rewrite that thing

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It is scary

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 5:28 PM

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Yeah I think pages needs a complete redesign. Personally I would prefer if it was a view you could subclass rather then its own send/edit thing. That would reduce some of the complexity and allow for more custimization without making a mess

fresh sierra Apr 20, 2025, 5:41 PM

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so containers are the new embeds ?

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:43 PM

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hello

integration_types = {IntegrationType.guild_install, IntegrationType.user_install}, contexts={InteractionContextType.guild, InteractionContextType.bot_dm, InteractionContextType.private_channel}

anyone see a error?

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my import py from discord import slash_command, SlashCommandGroup, InteractionContextType, IntegrationType

little cobalt Apr 20, 2025, 5:44 PM

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toxic saffron hello ```py integration_types = {IntegrationType.guild_install, IntegrationType...

Do you even get an error?

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:45 PM

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little cobalt Do you even get an error?

nope

little cobalt Apr 20, 2025, 5:45 PM

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So you dont need help I guess

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:45 PM

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i added it

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fresh sierra Apr 20, 2025, 5:47 PM

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toxic saffron

what is the issue ?

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:47 PM

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I cant see the commands

fresh sierra Apr 20, 2025, 5:47 PM

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you want to add it to ur account but you added it to the guild ?

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:47 PM

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only in the server

fresh sierra Apr 20, 2025, 5:47 PM

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toxic saffron

this is for ur account right ?

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:47 PM

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fresh sierra you want to add it to ur account but you added it to the guild ?

I added it in a guild and to my account, but the commands are only showing in the guild

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:48 PM

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fresh sierra this is for ur account right ?

yeah

fresh sierra Apr 20, 2025, 5:48 PM

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can you show us how you define a command with the user app ?

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 5:51 PM

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fresh sierra so containers are the new embeds ?

in some ways yes

edgy nest Apr 20, 2025, 5:51 PM

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toxic saffron I cant see the commands

slap ctrl+r and come back if that doesn't work

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:51 PM

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edgy nest slap ctrl+r and come back if that doesn't work

did

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:52 PM

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fresh sierra can you show us how you define a command with the user app ?

@ltc.command(description="Generate a Payment.", integration_types = {IntegrationType.guild_install, IntegrationType.user_install}, contexts={InteractionContextType.guild, InteractionContextType.bot_dm, InteractionContextType.private_channel})```

edgy nest Apr 20, 2025, 5:52 PM

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what's ltc

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:52 PM

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slashcommandgroup

edgy nest Apr 20, 2025, 5:54 PM

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let's see that

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:54 PM

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ltc = SlashCommandGroup("ltc")

edgy nest Apr 20, 2025, 5:54 PM

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is it added to the bot

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 5:55 PM

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wont integration_types and contexts only work on the top level command as well? not subcommands

edgy nest Apr 20, 2025, 5:55 PM

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yeah

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:55 PM

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means?

edgy nest Apr 20, 2025, 5:56 PM

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do you have an add_command or an add_application_command somewhere

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or is it in a cog

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:57 PM

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COG

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 5:57 PM

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toxic saffron means?

You need to move the integration_types and contexts into the group definition not the command decorator

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Discord does not allow /ltc view to be only a guild command and /ltc pay to only be a user command for example

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 5:59 PM

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now thanks guys

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 6:21 PM

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file = discord.File(fp=ltc_qr, filename="ltc_qr.png")
embed = discord.Embed(description=f"### LTC Payment\nAddress: `{ltc_address}`\n**Amount: `{amount}` $(USD) `{amount}`€(EUR) `{ltc_amount}` Litecoin**")
embed.set_image(url="attachment://ltc_qr.png")```

where do I need to add the file and how?

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 6:22 PM

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when you send the message
embed=..., file=file

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 6:25 PM

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hmm, i getting missing accsess now when i try to make a oauth2 link with accsess I getting a scope error

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 6:27 PM

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what are you trying to do with oauth?

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could you post the full error

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 6:29 PM

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lapis dock could you post the full error

Application Command raised an exception: Forbidden: 403 Forbidden (error code: 50001): Missing Access

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User installed, guild installed its working fine

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 6:30 PM

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toxic saffron Application Command raised an exception: Forbidden: 403 Forbidden (error code: 5...

when doing what

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 6:30 PM

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my slashcommand in a dm

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but in a guild its working

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 6:30 PM

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which line throws the error

lapis dock Apr 20, 2025, 6:31 PM

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-# I got to go study, toothy gots you covered :)

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 6:31 PM

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sage tendon which line throws the error

@commands.Cog.listener()
async def on_application_command_error(self, ctx, error):
await ctx.respond(f"{error}", ephemeral=True)
raise error

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 6:31 PM

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that's.. your error handler

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 6:31 PM

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ye

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 6:31 PM

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I mean which line of the command errors

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 6:32 PM

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await ctx.send(embed=embed, file=file)

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file = discord.File(fp=ltc_qr, filename="ltc_qr.png")

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 6:32 PM

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yea you can't send messages lol

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you can only do .respond with user installed bots

toxic saffron Apr 20, 2025, 6:33 PM

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thanks, working now

flat wind Apr 20, 2025, 7:04 PM

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weird but...
When the bot replies without mentioning author, and then edit the message, it becomes a message that mention the author.
Any way to change that ?

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 7:08 PM

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flat wind weird but... When the bot replies without mentioning author, and then edit the m...

testy

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hm

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so the @ before the username of who the bot replies to is suddenly there?

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I mean it doesn't really affect anything, message edits cannot cause notifications or red 1s

fresh sierra Apr 20, 2025, 7:11 PM

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flat wind weird but... When the bot replies without mentioning author, and then edit the m...

maybe by using allowed mention

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 7:11 PM

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that only changes anything for notifications

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it won't affect this

fresh sierra Apr 20, 2025, 7:13 PM

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sage tendon that only changes anything for notifications

its not what he means by mentionning ?

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 7:14 PM

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sage tendon I mean it doesn't really affect anything, message edits cannot cause notificatio...

.

fresh sierra Apr 20, 2025, 7:15 PM

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sage tendon so the @ before the username of who the bot replies to is suddenly there?

i didnt really get that

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neither whats under

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do you have an code so i can try to see the effects ?

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 7:18 PM

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a message edit cannot cause a ping

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that's it

torn barn Apr 20, 2025, 7:19 PM

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its just how interactions work

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 7:19 PM

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the only thing it does is highlight the message if you add a mention

torn barn Apr 20, 2025, 7:19 PM

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lol

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the first response will not ping anyone

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the followups will

sage tendon Apr 20, 2025, 7:21 PM

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huh

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that's wrong and not related to what we're talking about

torn barn Apr 20, 2025, 7:21 PM

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oh shit

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there were more messages

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i was replying to another person's message 😭

wide jasper Apr 21, 2025, 12:47 AM

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im very confused, since yesterday many of my commands/interactions are executed twice. for e.g. i have a user_command where i added this code now:

print(self.processed_interactions)
if ctx.interaction.id in self.processed_interactions:
  return  # Skip already processed interactions
self.processed_interactions.add(ctx.interaction.id)

now its only getting executed one time because of the return but my log still say:

2025-04-21T02:41:57: set()
2025-04-21T02:41:57: {1363676098251980900}

so it still tries to execute it twice. i also added a print in the cog setup, the cog is only loaded one time and bot is also only running one time

lapis dock Apr 21, 2025, 12:58 AM

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Are the interaction IDs the same? (Move the print below the line where you add to the set)

wide jasper Apr 21, 2025, 1:03 AM

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lapis dock Are the interaction IDs the same? (Move the print below the line where you add t...

figured out where the problem is, i've rewritten my cog loading logic yesterday and accidentally enabled an old error handling cog where i had the line await self.bot.process_application_commands(interaction) facepalm

lapis dock Apr 21, 2025, 1:04 AM

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nice, glad you found the fix :)

wide jasper Apr 21, 2025, 1:05 AM

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lapis dock nice, glad you found the fix :)

yes, but thank you for your fast response 🙂

outer trout Apr 21, 2025, 10:07 AM

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I often have the problem that the attributes of the Guild instance like guild.members or guild.roles or out of sync, so the cache contains objects which results in 404 error in the API.

How to re-sync the cache, so I dont have to use fetch every time but force a re-sync if I detect a mismatch?
Is there an automatic syncing logic, or is it really static from the bootup?

sage tendon Apr 21, 2025, 10:15 AM

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how many servers is your bot in

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And no, cache isn't static, it should update with every event sent by discord

outer trout Apr 21, 2025, 10:22 AM

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sage tendon how many servers is your bot in

one single guild/server. Mhhm thats weird.
Does the ``fetch` method updates the cache then also? So for example

await guild.fetch_roles() #sync roles
....
roles = guild.roles() # uses cache synced before

?

sage tendon Apr 21, 2025, 10:23 AM

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you really should never need to do that

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Unless you messed with how the caching works or your bot is in a LOT of servers, cache should be 100% reliable

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And dont fetch every time, thatll cost time and eventually ratelimit you if you do it often enough

fresh sierra Apr 21, 2025, 10:24 AM

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outer trout one single guild/server. Mhhm thats weird. Does the ``fetch` method updates the ...

I don’t think it does

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But you can get or fetch, if get is None then you fetch all role and check if its inside

outer trout Apr 21, 2025, 10:24 AM

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sage tendon you really should never need to do that

Well I understand - but right now I have this issue. With the whole cache. Member, roles, etc. - getting regulary 404 errors if I try to use the cached objects
The weird thing is - this is a problem occured since a few days. Was never an issue before and I didnt changed my code

outer trout Apr 21, 2025, 10:26 AM

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fresh sierra But you can get or fetch, if get is None then you fetch all role and check if it...

Its not none - its more an out-of-sync issue. So guild.members still contains members who left the server for example

sage tendon Apr 21, 2025, 10:26 AM

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do you delete roles at all? else a 404 wouldnt make sense for roles

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and make sure you are always actually using the cache and not saving it to some variable and reusing that later or something

fresh sierra Apr 21, 2025, 10:27 AM

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outer trout Its not none - its more an out-of-sync issue. So `guild.members` still contains ...

Its more probable that a member is not in that it’s in when it should not

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But this is out of my knowledge so I cannot really help you with out of sync stuff

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However when you get a answer pls ping me

outer trout Apr 21, 2025, 10:33 AM

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sage tendon do you delete roles at all? else a 404 wouldnt make sense for roles

yes I do - I have a lot of channels and since discord have a role limit the bot manages the roles I use for a ping dynamically. So my bot deletes and creates roles for some channels depended how popular a current channel is. Maybe this is some kind of race condition - one thread just deleted it but the other still uses the old cache. Will investigate.
That would explain the role thing - but I get the same with members recently. Weird..

sage tendon Apr 21, 2025, 10:33 AM

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role limit? what

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i have like 150 roles in my server lol

outer trout Apr 21, 2025, 10:35 AM

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sage tendon i have like 150 roles in my server lol

Yes but without the bot managing my roles I would need more than 250 (which is the limit as far as I know)

sage tendon Apr 21, 2025, 10:35 AM

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wtf

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honestly no clue
you are on 2.6.1 right

outer trout Apr 21, 2025, 10:39 AM

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sage tendon wtf

😄
In short: I have gaming server where each game have its own channel - and each channel have one role for it. The bot dynamicalle moves and sortes the channels and uses the role for ping if a event (mapped to that channel) is created. Since I have 400+ channels I cannot create a role for each channel, so I only create the role if the channel is "active" and the role is needed. I save the members of the role in my own database - so if the role is deleted it still exists in my database and If I need it the bot recreates it and adds all members from my database

sage tendon Apr 21, 2025, 10:39 AM

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panik

lapis dock Apr 21, 2025, 11:24 AM

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What intents do you have? And did you change them recently?

fresh sierra Apr 21, 2025, 11:26 AM

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are they some example of component v2 code usage ?

lapis dock Apr 21, 2025, 11:28 AM

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Not yet

sage tendon Apr 21, 2025, 5:28 PM

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with autocomplete

fiery fable Apr 21, 2025, 6:22 PM

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is there an easy way to get all guilds the bot and the user are sharing?

rugged lodgeBOT Apr 21, 2025, 6:23 PM

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Searched in pycord

discord.User.mutual_guilds

fresh sierra Apr 21, 2025, 6:23 PM

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fiery fable is there an easy way to get all guilds the bot and the user are sharing?

;

fiery fable Apr 21, 2025, 6:24 PM

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oh my god i overlooked it reading the docs... thanks

lean garnet Apr 22, 2025, 7:36 PM

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Hello, how can I implement this ?

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or at least how it is named so I can look in the documentation

rugged lodgeBOT Apr 22, 2025, 7:38 PM

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Here's the context menus example.

lean garnet Apr 22, 2025, 7:41 PM

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Thanks !

echo wraith Apr 23, 2025, 1:29 PM

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Did app emojis get merged already or not yet ?

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It was

round heart Apr 23, 2025, 1:33 PM

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2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7

echo wraith Apr 23, 2025, 1:41 PM

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haha

lapis dock Apr 23, 2025, 1:43 PM

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You need to say it backwards 7 times for it to come true

round heart Apr 23, 2025, 1:48 PM

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Wen pycord 7.2, with ai

lethal loom Apr 24, 2025, 5:05 PM

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Hi, is pycord support this in the latest git?

errant trout Apr 24, 2025, 5:05 PM

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lethal loom Hi, is pycord support this in the latest git?

soon, can be tested if you install https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/pull/2707

GitHub

feat: components v2 by NeloBlivion · Pull Request #2707 · Pycord-...

Summary
Soon

Edit by Lala:
Temporary reference: https://github.com/Lulalaby/discord-api-docs/blob/comp_v2/docs/interactions/Message_Components.md#v2-components

Yet another edit by Lala:
Offici...

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 5:28 PM

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lethal loom Hi, is pycord support this in the latest git?

the latest git..

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the latest git is 2.49.0

lofty parcel Apr 24, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Lmfao

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 7:51 PM

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when i have

@cogs_group.command(
        guild_ids=[12345],
        name="random",
        description="aikdjnaiwhfiabnwi"
    )
@commands.guild_only()
@has_any_role(role_ids)

why is the has_any_role check executed before checking if its a guild?

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 7:52 PM

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guild_only is deprecated

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the new way is using contexts

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Also uh, neither guild ids nor contexts or guild_only applies to subcommands

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subcommands are not standalone commands in discord's model

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 7:53 PM

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because i tried executing my slash cmd in dms for fun and then got AttributeError: 'User' object has no attribute 'roles', but with guild_only() it shouldnt do anything?

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 7:54 PM

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well read my message first lol

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 7:54 PM

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i i am using pycord: 2.6.1

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 7:54 PM

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no use diagnosing an issue when another issue exists

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 7:54 PM

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sage tendon well read my message first lol

sorry, started writing before you sent your message lol

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 7:56 PM

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sage tendon Also uh, neither guild ids nor contexts or guild_only applies to subcommands

okay, so what should i exaclty do

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any docs about the new way to do it

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 7:57 PM

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make whatever command you want to be guild only its own group or just base command

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look in the SlashCommand docs, you'll find the contexts attribute

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 7:59 PM

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sage tendon look in the SlashCommand docs, you'll find the contexts attribute

    cogs_group = SlashCommandGroup(
        name="fv", 
        description="Commands",
        guild_only=True,
        guild_ids=[12345677],
        checks=[
            has_any_role(ids)
        ]
    )
``` so like this?

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 7:59 PM

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no

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read what i said

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(contexts apply to slashcommandgroups as well)

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 8:13 PM

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sage tendon (contexts apply to slashcommandgroups as well)

so if i understood it right

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i have to set nothing just guild_ids=[123] in my slashcommandgroup

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 8:13 PM

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thatll also allow it for DMs

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wait nvm im dumb

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you are right

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 8:14 PM

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then how to deny it for dms think_FF

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okay

#

so i can also now remove my
@has_any_role
@commands.guilds_only
and guild_ids

in my commands because i defined it in my slashgroup

lofty parcel Apr 24, 2025, 8:15 PM

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Or... set the actual contexts...

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 8:16 PM

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lofty parcel Or... set the actual contexts...

what you mean my that? i thoughjt its unapplicable for guild commands?

lofty parcel Apr 24, 2025, 8:17 PM

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You don't make it a guild command and set contexts.

lapis dock Apr 24, 2025, 8:20 PM

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lofty parcel Or... set the actual contexts...

It's a guild command tho so it's only available in guilds

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 8:20 PM

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I think what dark is on about is that they should rather set context than put in the guild IDs of the one or few servers their bot is in unless its specifically a command locked to a specific guild

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 9:08 PM

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lapis dock It's a guild command tho so it's only available in guilds

im confused now

#

cogs_group = SlashCommandGroup(
        name="fv", 
        description="Commands",
        guild_ids=[1234545],
        checks=[
            has_any_role(ung_role_ids)
        ]
    )

is this now wrong or right?

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 9:10 PM

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yea
but uh, why guild_ids at all

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 9:13 PM

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sage tendon yea but uh, why guild_ids at all

because i want that only the commands can be executed on one guild

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 9:13 PM

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sage tendon yea but uh, why guild_ids at all

but also now my checks isnt working anymore

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 9:15 PM

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because thats not how you use that

#

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/application_commands.html#discord.SlashCommandGroup.checks

Pycord

Application Commands

Command Permission Decorators: Commands: Shortcut Decorators: Objects: Attributes full_parent_name, qualified_id, qualified_name. Methods@ after_invoke,@ before_invoke,@ error, def get_cooldown_ret...

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unless has_any_role returns such a predicate

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 9:32 PM

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sage tendon unless has_any_role returns such a predicate

sorry im very confused now

#

def has_any_role(role_ids):
        print(f"Checking roles: {role_ids}")
        async def predicate(ctx):
            if not isinstance(ctx.author, discord.Member):
                return False
            return any(role.id in role_ids for role in ctx.author.roles)
        return commands.check(predicate)

# Slash Command Group
cogs_group = SlashCommandGroup(
        name="fv", 
        description="Commands",
        guild_ids=[12551236],
        checks=[
            has_any_role(role_ids)
        ]
)

thiss is what i have now

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i tried it out and my has_any_role func is not called when i execute my slash commadn

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 9:35 PM

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because it doesnt satisfy the requirements for a check function

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 9:37 PM

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sage tendon because it doesnt satisfy the requirements for a check function

is the problem that it returns commands.check(predicate) instead of true/false?

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 9:40 PM

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sage tendon https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/application_commands.html#discord.SlashCom...

read. the. docs.

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 9:41 PM

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sage tendon read. the. docs.

List[Callable[[ApplicationContext], bool]]

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 9:43 PM

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thats what they say

wide jasper Apr 24, 2025, 9:43 PM

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    async def check_has_any_role(ctx: discord.ApplicationContext) -> bool:
        print(f"Checking roles: {role_ids}")
        role_ids = config().fw_role_ids
        return any(role.id in role_ids for role in ctx.author.roles)

    # Slash Command Group
    cogs_group = SlashCommandGroup(
        name="fv", 
        description="Commands",
        guild_ids=[1234],
        checks=[
            check_has_any_role
        ]
    )

i think like that?

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it works.. but is it the 100% right way

#

and should the task be sync or async

sage tendon Apr 24, 2025, 9:58 PM

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doesnt matter

lapis dock Apr 24, 2025, 11:16 PM

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wide jasper ```py def has_any_role(role_ids): print(f"Checking roles: {role_ids}") ...

The difference is you are not using it as a decorator anymore, the whole nested function thing is for decorators

maiden bloom Apr 25, 2025, 1:45 AM

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Does bot.emojis not include emojis added in the developer portal?

errant trout Apr 25, 2025, 1:51 AM

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maiden bloom Does `bot.emojis` not include emojis added in the developer portal?

in the next version (will require you to specify cache_app_emojis=True)

maiden bloom Apr 25, 2025, 1:52 AM

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Got it. I really need to just switch to master this is ridiculous

round heart Apr 25, 2025, 3:11 AM

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errant trout in the next version (will require you to specify `cache_app_emojis=True`)

Wait, where do you define that kwarg?

errant trout Apr 25, 2025, 3:11 AM

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In Bot/Client

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It just fetches the emojis on startup

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There's no events related to app emojis, so if they change while the bot's running you have to fetch them again

round heart Apr 25, 2025, 3:12 AM

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oh yucky. Does the API let you add them?

errant trout Apr 25, 2025, 3:12 AM

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Yeah there's a couple methods for them

#

Just no events, but not the end of the world

lapis dock Apr 25, 2025, 3:17 AM

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you should probably know when your emojis are updated

round heart Apr 25, 2025, 3:19 AM

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That's the advice my momma always told me, growing up

lethal loom Apr 25, 2025, 4:36 PM

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Hi, when i uuse a command i can use cctx.defer() but how can i use it in a interaction callback

frail basin Apr 25, 2025, 4:41 PM

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lethal loom Hi, when i uuse a command i can use cctx.defer() but how can i use it in a inter...

interaction.response.defer()

#

if thats what you mean

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 4:42 PM

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but the interaction callback is just the command function

frail basin Apr 25, 2025, 4:43 PM

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fresh sierra but the interaction callback is just the command function

I think they mean view items

lethal loom Apr 25, 2025, 4:44 PM

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frail basin interaction.response.defer()

THX

lapis dock Apr 25, 2025, 8:03 PM

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lethal loom THX

Just so you are aware ctx.defer is just a shortcut for ctx.interaction.response.defer

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 8:57 PM

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can someone explain me this ?

#

knowing that at the begining of my command i have :

    async def add(
        self,
        ctx: LumabotContext,
        member: discord.Member,
        channel: discord.TextChannel = None,
    ):
        channel = channel or ctx.channel
        if (
            channel.permissions_for(member).view_channel
            and channel.permissions_for(member).send_messages
        ):
            return await ctx.respond(
                ctx.translator.ticket.add.error.already.format(user=member)
            )
        await channel.set_permissions(member, view_channel=True, send_messages=True)

        await ctx.respond(
            ctx.translator.ticket.add.success.format(channel=channel, member=member)
        )

how can specify a channel or not change

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:01 PM

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is the channel you are running that in sbd ticket

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:02 PM

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sage tendon is the channel you are running that in sbd ticket

yeah

#

thats the whole point

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:02 PM

#

is it a thread?

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:02 PM

#

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:03 PM

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sage tendon is it a thread?

nope

#

so its saying that both have the perm to view channel

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i guess 2.6.1 moment

#

let me try on master

#

but why from ctx.channel it will be different than channel -> thats a mystery ig

lofty parcel Apr 25, 2025, 9:05 PM

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Have you tried printing channel for both commands

#

And see if there's any difference

#

Which would be weird

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:06 PM

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lofty parcel Have you tried printing channel for both commands

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like that doesnt make any sens to me

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:07 PM

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fresh sierra knowing that at the begining of my command i have : ``` async def add( ...

and again both channel are the same

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:07 PM

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print the channel objects.

lofty parcel Apr 25, 2025, 9:07 PM

#

^

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:09 PM

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sbd-ticket sbd-ticket True

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for

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print(channel, ctx.channel, channel == ctx.channel)

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:10 PM

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did you print that as the first line in your command

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if not, do it

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:11 PM

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ok

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:12 PM

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sage tendon did you print that as the first line in your command

same result

#

    async def add(
        self,
        ctx: LumabotContext,
        member: discord.Member,
        channel: discord.TextChannel = None,
    ):
        channel = channel or ctx.channel
        print(channel, ctx.channel, channel == ctx.channel)

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:12 PM

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i said first

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not second

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because of that exact line that changes the channel var which makes that whole test worthless

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:13 PM

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sage tendon not second

channel will be none

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when i dont specify the agr channel

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:13 PM

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specify it, print it

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:13 PM

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sage tendon specify it, print it

did it

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and its none

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and when i specify its both the same

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:14 PM

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did you try with the master branch

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:14 PM

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so
None sbd-ticket False -> no arg
sbd-ticket sbd-ticket True -> arg

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:14 PM

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sage tendon did you try with the master branch

im gonna test that on my test bot but how come ctx.channel and channel are not the same

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:15 PM

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they are though, didnt you just prove that

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:15 PM

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sage tendon they are though, didnt you just prove that

seems that there are equal

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:15 PM

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I think Paillat mentioned a weird issue with permissions_for, but im not sure if it was on 2.6.1 or master
either way try the git version

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:15 PM

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but however there are not really since the permission are different

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:16 PM

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i wouldn't distrust obj == obj tests

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:17 PM

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== might be true but is might be false

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but i forgot what == means and is is

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:18 PM

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actually yea retry with is

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:19 PM

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yep its good on master

raw beacon Apr 25, 2025, 9:19 PM

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== value
is memory address

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iirc

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:19 PM

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are you also gonna become a 2.7 yapper

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:19 PM

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sage tendon are you also gonna become a 2.7 yapper

im already one

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just hope they first push the pr before merging

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i dont want to have the same issue than in 2.6...

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:19 PM

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hardly matters most of the time

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:20 PM

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sage tendon hardly matters most of the time

i knew that part but if the variable are equal might be a bit tricky

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since ctx.channel return a function

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:20 PM

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No

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:20 PM

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maybe it cannot really check if those part are the same in both case

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:20 PM

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its a property

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:21 PM

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yep true

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idk which one but some return a funct to retrieve it

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:21 PM

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properties use functions under the hood

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:22 PM

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idk how the == will evaluate them

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will it check all different thing

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like a before.channel == after.channel even tho they will have different name ?

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:22 PM

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who knows

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:22 PM

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let me check that

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 9:22 PM

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might deep check all values

fresh sierra Apr 25, 2025, 9:26 PM

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sage tendon might deep check all values

yeah it does not

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    @commands.Cog.listener()
    async def on_guild_channel_update(self, before, after):
        print(before.name, after.name, before == after)

test1 test True

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but is does

echo wraith Apr 25, 2025, 11:13 PM

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cause python memory management does bs

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don't use is

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 11:20 PM

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is yielded the only correct result

echo wraith Apr 25, 2025, 11:23 PM

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tf

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what was the problem ?

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that before == after ?

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that's expected

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and the fact that is returns true is beecause it ain't the same object but that's normal

sage tendon Apr 25, 2025, 11:40 PM

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is returned false no?

echo wraith Apr 26, 2025, 1:35 AM

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yeah I thought the opposite at first

fresh sierra Apr 26, 2025, 7:32 AM

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fresh sierra but `is` does

does return false

fiery fable Apr 26, 2025, 9:30 AM

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is there a recommended order of command decorators?

silk spire Apr 26, 2025, 10:32 AM

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No, the order shouldn't matter in most cases.

sage tendon Apr 26, 2025, 10:50 AM

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The order absolutely matters

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First decorator has to be the slash command decorator

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apart from that tho, no I think

echo wraith Apr 26, 2025, 11:23 AM

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sage tendon First decorator has to be the slash command decorator

First you mean top to bottom ?

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yeah

silk spire Apr 26, 2025, 11:39 AM

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Ah, I assumed everything followed same design as ext.commands

sage tendon Apr 26, 2025, 2:11 PM

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wdym

silk spire Apr 26, 2025, 3:25 PM

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The decorator on prefix commands doesn't matter, if pycord hasn't changed it. Like checks and the command decorator can be anywhere.

sage tendon Apr 26, 2025, 3:26 PM

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the command decorator always has to be on top for all i know

silk spire Apr 26, 2025, 3:34 PM

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Nah

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Builtin checks can handle the func being a Command or not by setting an attribute

humble turtle Apr 26, 2025, 8:17 PM

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how can i use components v2

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?

fresh sierra Apr 26, 2025, 8:36 PM

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humble turtle how can i use components v2

not on master rn

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but you can still use the pr

humble turtle Apr 26, 2025, 8:37 PM

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but how do I install it

ivory beacon Apr 26, 2025, 8:44 PM

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humble turtle but how do I install it

pip install git+https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord.git@refs/pull/2707/head

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https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/pull/2707
PR

GitHub

feat: components v2 by NeloBlivion · Pull Request #2707 · Pycord-...

Summary
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Edit by Lala:
Temporary reference: https://github.com/Lulalaby/discord-api-docs/blob/comp_v2/docs/interactions/Message_Components.md#v2-components

Yet another edit by Lala:
Offici...

humble turtle Apr 26, 2025, 8:45 PM

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thx

nocturne jewel Apr 27, 2025, 9:24 PM

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how to get a slash command id directly from the code?

fresh sierra Apr 27, 2025, 9:25 PM

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nocturne jewel how to get a slash command id directly from the code?

command.id ?

nocturne jewel Apr 27, 2025, 9:28 PM

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fresh sierra command.id ?

i mean this, i need it for mentioning a command from the code

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like /help => it mention all commands

fresh sierra Apr 27, 2025, 9:29 PM

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nocturne jewel i mean this, i need it for mentioning a command from the code

using command.id then

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and you can you bot.application_commands to get all commands

rugged lodgeBOT Apr 27, 2025, 9:30 PM

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Searched in pycord

discord.Bot.walk_application_commands
discord.ext.commands.Bot.walk_application_commands

nocturne jewel Apr 27, 2025, 9:35 PM

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fresh sierra using command.id then

thx

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what's the event name when someone boost the server?

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