Basic Pycord Help

[deft kestrel]

alr thx guys

[lofty parcel]

He's Steve jobs bud, he's got money

[deft kestrel]

wait does this still crash everything if something dies on runtime?

cuz like

loading it i already have handling foe

for

but this died during its running

[sage tendon]

yea, no, i asked him to please get more RAM, and he said he needed to ask his dad .-.
yet ec2 is like so much more expensive than anything else

[lofty parcel]

What error made your bot crash?

I've honestly never had my bot stop for a runtime error

[deft kestrel]

me neither up until now

.

i fixed it by specifing

but literally 0 commits have been made

[sage tendon]

I can only imagine a reconnect with that error

[deft kestrel]

discord api bug or whatever toothy said

idk how a param causes a runtime crash in the first place

because it should only take it in once

i think

[sage tendon]

thats why i said reconnect

[stoic patio]

the thing is, my dad is very proficient at using ec2 and aws shit

[sage tendon]

that is great, but its expensive as shit

and aws is no different from any other VPS

[stoic patio]

also my bot's website is hosted on aws

• some other complicated shit that even i don't really understand lol

[echo wraith]

That's their business model

[errant trout]

If you're only at 7k members then you should absolutely not be running into any cache issues

[sage tendon]

They have 1GB RAM

and they say their EC2 crashes out weekly

[errant trout]

That's very silly, my bots with 40k members use under 400mb

[sage tendon]

my 400 member server bot uses like 400mb too

[errant trout]

I also remember running my first two bots on the student trial windows ec2 instance for a year, if you've somehow capped that out then you're doing too much

[short rivet]

maybe they are caching alot of things like prefixes for each guild and all

[sage tendon]

no

[zealous tiger]

elif member.guild_permissions.ban_members:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: 'User' object has no attribute 'guild_permissions'

in doc I can see there are guild_permissions for user object ??

[sage tendon]

there arent

ever

[zealous tiger]

what should I do?

[sage tendon]

get their member object

[zealous tiger]

member: discord.Member

like this?

[sage tendon]

i mean, show your code first of all

[zealous tiger]

class Bankick(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot

    @discord.slash_command(guild_ids=GUILDS, name="ban", description="Bans a member")
    @commands.has_permissions(ban_members=True)
    @option("member", discord.Member, required=True)
    @option("reason", str, required=False)
    @discord.default_permissions(ban_members=True)
    async def ban(
        self,
        ctx,
        member: discord.Member,
        reason: str | None,
    ):
        if member.id == ctx.author.id:
            await ctx.respond("You can't ban yourself!")
        elif member.guild_permissions.administrator:
            await ctx.respond("You can't ban an admin")
        else:
            if not reason:
                reason = f"None provided by {ctx.author}"
            await member.ban(reason=reason)
            await ctx.respond(
                f"<@{ctx.author.id}>, <@{member.id}> has been banned successfully from this server!\n\nReason: {reason}"
            )

@sage tendon

[sage tendon]

yea

if you do discord.User itll be converted to a User object which lacks any guild specific stuff

[zealous tiger]

Like this? or changing all members to discord.user

[sage tendon]

what

that line makes no sense lol

i mean if you typehint it as discord.User

[zealous tiger]

I didnt understand what you mean

which part I'm gonna change

[sage tendon]

none
your code is good as is

[zealous tiger]

but it gives error

[sage tendon]

yea because you are putting the ID of someone in who isnt in the server anymore

dont do that, or make your code able to handle that

[zealous tiger]

how can I do that

[sage tendon]

check if its a user object

also uh, your bot role shouldnt be so high as to be able to kick admins

[zealous tiger]

if somebody has admin you cant kick with this code am I wrong @sage tendon

[zealous tiger]

if member.id == discord.User like this?

[lofty parcel]

No

That comparation makes no sense at all.

[sage tendon]

Yes, but your bot should never be above an admin role..

[sage tendon]

isinstance()

[grizzled loom]

"==" is for comparing values,
"is" is used to compare types/states
isinstance like toothy told you is the best option in your case.

[hoary cradle]

trying to reset the cooldown of a command inside of my slash command in a cog but i just get none type has no attribute reset, i've tried both

command_name.reset_cooldown(ctx)
self.command_name.reset_cooldown(ctx)

do i need to get the command first and then use it? if so i also get none type

[grizzled loom]

maybe there is an even better way to do it. can you explain why/how exactly the unwanted cooldown is casted and why you want to remove it?

[hoary cradle]

i have a command that's moving players from one team to another and also updating their database. if a user is being added to a team as a free agent i have a check for that and want it so people can add a country code in that case and not wait the standard cooldown

[little cobalt]

you could use your own cooldown

[hoary cradle]

def custom_cooldown(ctx):
    if any(role.id in ALLOWED_ROLES for role in ctx.author.roles):
        return None
    else:
        return discord.ext.commands.Cooldown(rate = 1, per = 3600)

this is my current implementation for a custom cooldown i already have, certain roles have no cooldown otherwise its just 1h

[deft kestrel]

can i upload a gif in bot pfp?

[little cobalt]

yes

[deft kestrel]

mhh

HTTP Error 415

[little cobalt]

415?

[deft kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/1251867332926771235/a_1454419b00a8dbf0af21f9a259aa41a9.gif?size=4096

yep

[errant trout]

do it from dev portal

[deft kestrel]

same problem

[errant trout]

then blame discord

[red mist]

LMAO

[errant trout]

did you already try bot.user.edit

[flint talon]

discord has no attribute bot

[shell radish]

bot or Bot

[flint talon]

Bot

[shell radish]

you probably have conflicting discord libraries. Did you make sure to first uninstall all packages using the discord namespace, then installing the pycord library?

[flint talon]

Yeah I deleted Discord dot pi and then installed pycord

We’re fine without using flash commands. As soon as I want to use them, it becomes a problem. I don’t know if it’s a pie cord thing.

Sorry I’m on mobile

[shell radish]

pip list and send output?

[oblique sable]

hey guys

can i give a list of options for voice?

[sage tendon]

yea

@discord.option("voice", str, choices=[...])

[oblique sable]

thx

awesome!

[keen relic]

i want to list ban member

[sage tendon]

speak sentence, get help

[keen relic]

I'm planning to add a command to our Discord bot that lists all banned members. Are there any specific requirements or guidelines I should follow for this implementation?

[sage tendon]

like, what

[keen relic]

add a command to our Discord bot that lists all banned members?

[sage tendon]

"any specific requirements or guidelines I should follow for this implementation"
i have no idea what this is supposed to mean tho

what do you mean with guidelines

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/ here are the docs if you mean those

[keen relic]

ya i need this for ctx.guild

[sage tendon]

use the search

[keen relic]

thx

[lethal loom]

Is there such a thing for errors that occur when I press buttons etc.?

async def on_application_command_error(ctx: discord.ApplicationContext, error: discord.DiscordException):
    if isinstance(error, commands.CommandOnCooldown):
        await ctx.respond("This command is currently on cooldown!")
    else:
        raise error  # Here we raise other errors to ensure they aren't ignored```

[flint talon]

guys

when I try ctx.respond using a slash command

and try to send my discord embed

it just sends <discord.embed at yadayadayda>

any ideas?

[lofty parcel]

You're not using the embed kwarg

[flint talon]

wdym

[flint talon]

?

[lofty parcel]

You have on_error if you subclass your views

[lofty parcel]

You're not passing your embed with the embed= kwarg

[flint talon]

ohh i see

thanks for catching that

brain fart

-_-

[flint talon]

it works now thanks

one more thing

how can I detect if a user is spamming messages

or spam editing channels

or spam handing out perms

u get the idea

[sage tendon]

thats an issue you have to solve yourself really

need to record all those actions and decide how much is too much

or use an established anti spam and anti nuke bot

[flint talon]

nah I wanna have my own

[flint talon]

ur right

[fresh sierra]

nope is this not, there is an on_error but it’s for everything

[sage tendon]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/ui_kit.html#discord.ui.View.on_error

and Dark already told them that

[fresh sierra]

this also exist but it’s not for all view you will need to setup for each

[sage tendon]

there's no need to reopen that issue

[fresh sierra]

i did not talk about the same thing

[sage tendon]

i'd just subclass all views from one main subclass then, issue solved

[fresh sierra]

you that’s the thing

the on error exist also so i can if i want tell him about that

[lofty parcel]

Sometimes it surprises me how smart you can be

[sage tendon]

how nice of you

and thanks if that wasnt entirely sarcastic :>

[lofty parcel]

little bit of this, little bit of that

[shell radish]

literally basic oop

[sage tendon]

sssh

[ebon swift]

is it possible to make group commands from slash commands ?

[fresh sierra]

group cant be command also with slash

[ebon swift]

okay so to imitate this behavior I should probably have a choices as second argument thank you

[fresh sierra]

yes

[flint talon]

how to create automod rule

[sage tendon]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/models.html#discord.Guild.create_auto_moderation_rule

[flint talon]

bruh I couldn't find that

[sage tendon]

took me ~5s

knowing where to look helps ;3

[flint talon]

🙃

I searched automod and that didnt come

😭

[sage tendon]

i mean

automod rules belong to a guild

so go to the guild class

[flint talon]

will do in the future

i've had enough of not getting my searches

[little cobalt]

I found a lot

[flint talon]

newrule = await ctx.guild.create_auto_moderation_rule(
name = "Spam setup",
event_type = discord.AutoModEventType.message_send,
trigger_type = discord.AutoModTriggerType.spam,
trigger_metadata = discord.AutoModTriggerType.spam,
actions = discord.AutoModActionType.block_message,
enabled = True,
exempt_roles = None,
exempt_channels = None,
reason = f"Rule creation ordered by {ctx.author}",

)

this returns this error:

File "c:\Users\[redacted]\Desktop\vscodeprojects\[redacted]\main.py", line 67, in spamsetup
    newrule = await ctx.guild.create_auto_moderation_rule(

AttributeError: '_EnumValue_AutoModTriggerType' object has no attribute 'to_dict'

[edgy nest]

trigger_metadata should be a AutoModTriggerMetadata

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/models.html#discord.AutoModTriggerMetadata

[flint talon]

trigger_metadata = discord.AutoModTriggerMetadata(mention_total_limit = 5)
it says I need a comma, and in the docs none of the other parameters are optional
so can I not just set a mentionlimit?

[edgy nest]

you need a comma at the end of it because it's a parameter list

_total_limit = 5),

[flint talon]

ok i see

oh shoot

-_-

[flint talon]

newrule = await ctx.guild.create_auto_moderation_rule( <--- this line right here
        name = "Spam setup",
        event_type = discord.AutoModEventType.message_send,
        trigger_type = discord.AutoModTriggerType.spam,
        trigger_metadata = discord.AutoModTriggerMetadata(mention_total_limit = 5),
        actions = discord.AutoModActionType.block_message,
        enabled = True,
        exempt_roles = None,
        exempt_channels = None,
        reason = f"Rule creation ordered by {ctx.author}",

    )

Returns this error:

Traceback:
File "c:\Users\[redacted]\Desktop\vscodeprojects\raidbot\main.py", line 67, in spamsetup
    newrule = await ctx.guild.create_auto_moderation_rule(
AttributeError:
'str' object has no attribute 'to_dict'

-I have no clue what's going on
-It's been happening for a while

[lapis dock]

Is that the full traceback?

[flint talon]

i can send it if u want

thats where the error is and what it is

[lapis dock]

yes please :)
full traceback is needed for this issue

[flint talon]

😄 will do

here u go:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Python312\Lib\site-packages\discord\bot.py", line 1137, in invoke_application_command
    await ctx.command.invoke(ctx)
  File "C:\Python312\Lib\site-packages\discord\commands\core.py", line 435, in invoke
    await injected(ctx)
  File "C:\Python312\Lib\site-packages\discord\commands\core.py", line 146, in wrapped
    raise ApplicationCommandInvokeError(exc) from exc
discord.errors.ApplicationCommandInvokeError: Application Command raised an exception: AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'to_dict'

+Full traceback

[flint talon]

done

[little cobalt]

stay now in one channel pls ;3

[sage tendon]

actions have to be a list

[lapis dock]

I still dont think that this is the full traceback. There might be more above. Sometimes there is a blank like that makes it look like a different error but it is related

[sage tendon]

your action is a single action but the docs require it to be a list of actions

[lapis dock]

try what toothy said first tho

I might be wrong

[flint talon]

ohhh

[flint talon]

still doesn't work

[sage tendon]

show your code and the traceback

[flint talon]

👍

[sage tendon]

also, why do you explicitly pass "None"? just leave those options away

[flint talon]

newrule = await ctx.guild.create_auto_moderation_rule(
        name = "Spam setup",
        event_type = discord.AutoModEventType.message_send,
        trigger_type = discord.AutoModTriggerType.spam,
        trigger_metadata = discord.AutoModTriggerMetadata(mention_total_limit = 5),
        actions = [discord.AutoModActionType.block_message],
        enabled = True,
        exempt_roles = None,
        exempt_channels = None,
        reason = f"Rule creation ordered by {ctx.author}",

    )

wait

PS C:\Users\[redacted]/Desktop/vscodeprojects\raidbot> & C:/Python312/python.exe c:/Users/NishanPC/Desktop/vscodeprojects/raidbot/main.py
We have logged in as Glum#9657
Ignoring exception in command spamsetup:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Python312\Lib\site-packages\discord\commands\core.py", line 138, in wrapped
    ret = await coro(arg)
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Python312\Lib\site-packages\discord\commands\core.py", line 1082, in _invoke
    await self.callback(ctx, **kwargs)
  File "c:\Users\[redacted]\Desktop\vscodeprojects\raidbot\main.py", line 67, in spamsetup
    newrule = await ctx.guild.create_auto_moderation_rule(
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Python312\Lib\site-packages\discord\guild.py", line 3925, in create_auto_moderation_rule
    "actions": [a.to_dict() for a in actions],
                ^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: '_EnumValue_AutoModActionType' object has no attribute 'to_dict'

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Python312\Lib\site-packages\discord\bot.py", line 1137, in invoke_application_command
    await ctx.command.invoke(ctx)
  File "C:\Python312\Lib\site-packages\discord\commands\core.py", line 435, in invoke
    await injected(ctx)
  File "C:\Python312\Lib\site-packages\discord\commands\core.py", line 146, in wrapped
    raise ApplicationCommandInvokeError(exc) from exc
discord.errors.ApplicationCommandInvokeError: Application Command raised an exception: AttributeError: '_EnumValue_AutoModActionType' object has no attribute 'to_dict'

[edgy nest]

you need one of these

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/models.html#discord.AutoModAction

[flint talon]

where??

[edgy nest]

instead of an AutoModActionType

[flint talon]

trigger_type = discord.AutoModAction(action_type=discord.AutoModActionType.timeout, metadata=discord.AutoModActionMetadata(channel_id=ctx.channel, timeout_duration=20m, custom_message="Message blocked. Do not spam."))

it says that

parantheses aren'tclosed

[sage tendon]

no

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/enums.html#discord.AutoModTriggerType

read the docs.

automodaction goes into the action kwarg

should be obvious from the name

[flint talon]

dont get it

[lofty parcel]

Bud

[sage tendon]

read this. pass what belongs.

[lofty parcel]

You're providing to trigger_type a AutoModAction

When trigger_type takes a AutoModTriggerType

And actions is the one that receives a list of AutoModActions

[dense summit]

Hey there, is it possible with paginator to use dropdowns menu or do i need to make it from scratch?

[lapis dock]

can you eleborate on what you want to do

[dense summit]

I would like to make an help command where by a dropdown menu you can select for which category of commands you want to see the information for, and everytime you select the category from the dropdown menu the embed updates.

I was asking if paginator supports dropdown menus and if so how do i use them with paginator

[lapis dock]

Yes you can

When you make a page group with the paginator it will create a select menu for switching between groups

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/v2.6.0/ext/pages/index.html#discord.ext.pages.PageGroup
You can make a page for each command and pass the list of pages to the page group "category"

[dense summit]

Alright thank you very much!

[flint talon]

same error still cant figure it out

[lapis dock]

can you show the code again

[flint talon]

sure 🙂

[sage tendon]

you arent listening

[lapis dock]

You are still passing the wrong type to actions

[flint talon]

what do u mean

[sage tendon]

you aren't passing AutoModAction

pass AutoModAction

look at the docs

[lapis dock]

And actions is the one that receives a list of AutoModActions

[flint talon]

yeah so did I not make it a list?

I'm confused

do I need more than one action?

[sage tendon]

you are passing the wrong thing in the list

[flint talon]

What's the right thing?

then

[sage tendon]

.

mb plun

[safe quarry]

Is it possible to make a discord bot that can;
For example,
A webhook is named Xavier but it says "Govern.co" as it's username.

It takes that Govern.co webhook user, switches it to "Anonymous" as it's username, with the same message, or altered message that sends the user to a website by saying "Go Now!"

[lofty parcel]

Yes

Webhook.send takes a username (or user) kwarg

.rtfm webhook.send

[sly karma]

2 results

discord.Webhook.send
discord.SyncWebhook.send

[noble flax]

I think I already know the answer to this - but with slash commands/autocomplete I have my autocomplete that retrieves the names from the sqlite3 db and then those names are used in the autocomplete. However when I obviously hit enter at present I pass the "string" i.e. the name and have to make another call to the db to retrieve the additional details - I assume I can't pass the "object" i.e. list of dict from the autocomplete to the command for example?

[lapis dock]

No, but you can cache the name dict pair from the first call. {name: dict} Than in the command reference that cache instead of making a second API call.

[sage tendon]

make sure to cache it based on the user and clear it every few minutes

[keen relic]

.rtfm emoji

[sly karma]

97 total results

discord.Emoji
discord.Emoji.animated
discord.Emoji.available
discord.Emoji.created_at
discord.Emoji.delete
discord.Emoji.edit
discord.Emoji.guild
discord.Emoji.guild_id
discord.Emoji.id
discord.Emoji.is_usable
discord.Emoji.managed
discord.Emoji.name
discord.Emoji.read
discord.Emoji.require_colons
discord.Emoji.roles
discord.Emoji.save
discord.Emoji.url
discord.Emoji.user
discord.PartialEmoji
discord.PartialEmoji.animated

[sage tendon]

just use the docs search

[keen relic]

ok

@sage tendonBro App Emoji Api Is not add??

[sage tendon]

No

[keen relic]

ok

[sage tendon]

next release

[keen relic]

any beta

[sage tendon]

master has it I think

[keen relic]

ok

[carmine jackal]

how do external apps work?

[sage tendon]

they're called user apps

not much different from a normal bot

[carmine jackal]

do they work in any server

[sage tendon]

yes, thats the point

[carmine jackal]

where can i find the docs for it

[sage tendon]

it's already all documented

in the normal docs

[carmine jackal]

the github one right

or the website

[sage tendon]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/

[carmine jackal]

thank you

[flint talon]

how can I check if someone is spam handing out admin

or spam banning people?

[sage tendon]

i already told you

[flint talon]

?

no...?

[sage tendon]

yes

[flint talon]

when

[sage tendon]

#1132206148309749830 message

[flint talon]

ok so what I mean is

how can I record and in essence create my own audit log

that the bot can see

then I can use datetime to observe how closely the actions are taking place

[sage tendon]

i mean, thats what you have to figure out really
use a database, handle it all in memory, everything's possible

[flint talon]

so I set up a whole log system

basically any ban, kick actions are recorded precisely with details and precise time

but my problem now is

I don't know how to listen to when a ban happens, and determine if the last ban was within x time to take action

and ik about bot.add_listener

[errant trout]

please just use the event reference https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/events.html

it has everything you want

[lofty parcel]

You're supposed to store that yourself and check timestamps

[dense summit]

hey there, is it possible to suggest slash command so the person click it and it appears in his message?

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.SlashCommand.mention
discord.SlashCommandOptionType.mentionable

[shell radish]

or ctx.command.mention

[dense summit]

thanks

can i also suggest options?

[echo wraith]

No unfortunately

[dense summit]

alright thanks, this is going to be added anytime soon?

[echo wraith]

I think (from what someone said to me, just quoting) that they didn't do that and preferred working on the ui component (buttons, select menus, etc...). But i wouldn't say it will come anytime soon as it is something quite niche

[echo wraith]

But by suggesting options you mean like having someone click on a command and it being prefilled?

[dense summit]

yeah kinda

[echo wraith]

yeah so that's not possible

[dense summit]

the command is /image collage and the option is layout

and i want that the user can click on a message that fills the layout option

[shell radish]

no, discord removed that because of potential for abuse

[dense summit]

Anyway how do i get the SlashCommand class?

[shell radish]

ctx.command will return a SlashCommand object if used by a slash command

[dense summit]

and if it's not used by a slash command?

[shell radish]

it cannot be mentioned

you can also use </name:command id> to do it manually

[dense summit]

yeah that's better, although how can i get the id?

[dense summit]

oh thanks i didnt know about this

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.Bot.get_command
discord.Bot.get_desynced_commands
discord.Bot.get_application_command
discord.ext.commands.Bot.get_command
discord.ext.commands.Bot.get_desynced_commands
discord.ext.commands.Bot.get_application_command

[echo wraith]

you also have discord.Bot.get_command("help") if you want in your code

[dense summit]

yeah that's probably better, thank you to the both of you

[echo wraith]

especially if your commands get re registered with a different id for some reason

[shell radish]

sub-commands would be like </math add:123>

[dense summit]

i have a bot where i do the testing in a server and i have another bot in the actual server, so yeah it's better to use discord.Bot.get_command

[echo wraith]

exactly

[dense summit]

no need to change the id this way

[dense summit]

this doesnt return the id tho?

[echo wraith]

then you need to do .qualified_id

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.ApplicationCommand.qualified_id

[dense summit]

It doesn't mention it for some reason

[echo wraith]

Non c'è bisogno di metterlo in ``

[dense summit]

Hai ragione mi ero scordato che ora era una menzione e quindi non mi serviva più segnarlo con i ``

[lofty parcel]

U Italian?

[dense summit]

Yeah

[dense summit]

How do know italian anyway?

[lofty parcel]

Lmao I have an Italian version of me

[echo wraith]

My dad is swiss italian

And I spent basically the first 13 years of my life going to school in italian

[stoic patio]

is it normal for discord bots being used by several thousand ppl to experience memory fragmentation

[dense summit]

Yeah your italian was perfect

[echo wraith]

That's why there is sharding

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.AutoShardedBot
discord.bot.AutoShardedBot
discord.ext.bridge.AutoShardedBot
discord.ext.commands.AutoShardedBot
discord.ext.bridge.bot.AutoShardedBot
discord.ext.commands.bot.AutoShardedBot

[stoic patio]

uh my bot is in 113 servers

nowhere near the point of having to consider sharding

[echo wraith]

uh oh

[stoic patio]

but a few of the servers have a huge amount of users

[echo wraith]

But why is memory fragmentation a big deal anyways?

Like it's the point of ram to fix that

[stoic patio]

i'm running the thing on ec2 free tier

and i sometimes find sudden jumps in memory usage

that don't go down

i asked chatgpt 4o, and it tells me it's most likely memory fragmentation

[echo wraith]

that's bs

Maybe run some profilers on your python code, or just use a better provider honestly... even though ik that is not a real answer

[stoic patio]

i used objgraph to find which objects grow a lot, and used psutil to tell me my memory usage at different times

each one of those "----" things corresponds to a 15 minute interval

for the 87.39 to 92.39, there aren't new objects, but there are new objects for the bunch of 92.39's

[echo wraith]

Yeah but like - in your python code, you can run profilers to see what code takes memory - https://github.com/bloomberg/memray check at this for example

[stoic patio]

i've used tracemalloc

the lines that take the most memory are all the ones used by libraries

[echo wraith]

it could be the cache

[echo wraith]

what intents do you have enabled on your bot?

[stoic patio]

all

[echo wraith]

and do you need all of them?

[shell radish]

you just have a big bot. ec2 free tier is just simply unviable

[stoic patio]

113 servers, ~7-8k users is considered big?

[shell radish]

user wise yes

[echo wraith]

more than average. It's like you can run a minecraft server on a rpy fine but only for 4-5 users. Same kind of thing

[stoic patio]

i see

gotta convince my parents lmao

to get a better server

[echo wraith]

I mean you can check, you can already get neat things for just a couple of dollars a month

[shell radish]

if you are a student, microsoft azure is a free solution

[echo wraith]

not gonna mention anything not to make advertisement

[stoic patio]

i'm almost 17

[echo wraith]

ooh didn't know that

[stoic patio]

not in uni yet, if that's what you mean by "student"

[echo wraith]

I got all my students benefits while not being in uni aw

[shell radish]

pycord is sponsored by nordblade i think

[shell radish]

student = any one in school which includes high school

[stoic patio]

i see

the thing is, i don't think my dad's that proficient at azure, and he's the one who made all the configs for my ec2 host

and i don't have the time to learn aws well enough to do it all alone

[echo wraith]

The thing is, you don't need config for a discord bot, you need config for aws

[stoic patio]

yes i mean aws

[echo wraith]

nor you need much config for running a small docker container

at this point, I would really look for some small cheap vps, instead of getting locked behind config stuff

[shell radish]

azure should support docker

[stoic patio]

i don't use docker

[shell radish]

and docker is like easy

[echo wraith]

docker is always a good thing to learn

[shell radish]

shouldn’t take more than 10 min to setup imo

[echo wraith]

yeah

[stoic patio]

also, my bot's website, as well as its db, are both hosted on aws

using route 53 (domain) and rds (db)

both of which my dad are highly proficient in

[echo wraith]

At this point I don't wanna look mean, but i don't think that using aws for everything is the way. Your dad (probably) uses that because of complex problems he has to face, like scalability, and high availability. Aws and other cloud providers can be helpful, but in the end, end up costing a lot and add unnecessary (in your case) configuration steps, which while probably helpful for the aforementioned usecases, make no sense to have on a discord bot.

[stoic patio]

a lot of the configuration is for like security

[shell radish]

what security

[stoic patio]

like, only letting certain ips connect to the server

and db

[shell radish]

the like only security issue is like your host getting ddos’ed and sql injects

[echo wraith]

Exactly what I meant

[stoic patio]

tbf he uses aws for work

[echo wraith]

You need that because the db is meant to be scalable and be accessible from everywhere and replicated

But you don't need that

Like if you spin up a small docker stack with a db + a custom image + some webserver you can call it a day, and forget ips access, because there isn't any public facing ports for the database

[stoic patio]

i can't just host this thing locally

[echo wraith]

besides you don't need aws to have a firewall, most hosting providers give you a nice and clean interface for that

[echo wraith]

Sure, but that dosen't mean you need to host them on aws and big cloud either

You get a small vps and you can forget it until your bot becomes wwaaay bigger. On the other hand, with big cloud providers, you would start getting instant bills, and be locked behind their thing because they won't allow you to take out your database data without paying even more. Trust me, go away while you can. Big cloud has a lot of advantages, but not really for you right now.

It is interesting when it handles a bunch of complicated things for you, and it becomes actually worth paying for it.

[stoic patio]

wdym by "taking out db data"

[shell radish]

if you try to migrate to something else, they will charge based on how many bytes of data you have

[stoic patio]

interesting

[dense summit]

i tried it and it was so confusing, i don't think they actually give you the free hosting. it's all buggy

[shell radish]

although I haven’t used it myself, I have friends that genuinely recommend it

I don’t know more than that though

[dense summit]

i dont know, im part of the github student program but yeah it was pure mess tbh

i don't have any problem getting other free things like the jetbrains softwares

i ended up paying for a ovhcloud vps, 1€/month

[shell radish]

using railway rn and paying 0

[little cobalt]

I just use my own Server and paying for the electric bills...

[echo wraith]

I started with ovhcloud, then switched to other stuff because I disliked their ui & ux and found it very messy, and often bugged. But I can say it really mich worked fine, and did what it advertised.

[echo wraith]

Yeah until you need to host websites that's what sucks

cuz I did the same for a long time

[dense summit]

the ux is indeed complicated, but i only used their site when i had to buy the vps so yeah i don't really care

[echo wraith]

right

[dense summit]

i just access the vps with ssh

[echo wraith]

Yeah I definitely didn't have only a vps there, I had a bunch of other things like domains and webmail, and I just moved everything

[dense summit]

i would never buy domains from ovh they have insane prices tbh

[echo wraith]

I live in a country where their picing was the cheapest

[stoic patio]

i use ssm for my current ec2

[dense summit]

switzerland?

[echo wraith]

ye

[little cobalt]

oh

[dense summit]

arent the prices in switzerland VERY high? this is what ppl say in italy

[little cobalt]

Grüezi

[echo wraith]

Yeah it is indeed. It's like salaries are higher but costs as well

[little cobalt]

Keep in mind that you also get more money than

Schweizer Franken

[echo wraith]

Salü zäme

[dense summit]

average salary in italy is probably 1400 ish

[little cobalt]

month, day, year?

[echo wraith]

yeah switzerland is probably way more

idk

[dense summit]

yeah per month sorry

[echo wraith]

but at the same time it's an average, so you have like 1% of people bumping that

[dense summit]

yeah probably a lot of people have lower salaries

[little cobalt]

I dont know if its right

[dense summit]

10k per month?

[echo wraith]

that's not average

at all lol

[little cobalt]

some say it 4k?

[stoic patio]

what language is that

[little cobalt]

German

[stoic patio]

i see

[little cobalt]

why?

;3

[echo wraith]

but Ik the minimum salary, if you work 100% is around 3.5k chf

[shell radish]

@echo wraith i was looking at your website and wondered why wikipedia is a skill then realized it’s wordpress

[echo wraith]

lool I should really remove that as well

like at some point i was like i will add everything I did at some point

[little cobalt]

uh

[echo wraith]

But also should just remake that website, cuz I didn't touch it in like 1 year and it's from when I didn't know to program yet

[stoic patio]

are you also in hs

[echo wraith]

wdym

[dense summit]

what is this?

[shell radish]

arduino

[stoic patio]

high school

[echo wraith]

ye

[echo wraith]

arduino

wanna see something cool?

[dense summit]

sure

it sounds italian

[shell radish]

wrong answer: limits to positive or negative infinity

[dense summit]

it's an italian company?

[echo wraith]

yeah from Torino

[dense summit]

strange, i've never heard of them

[little cobalt]

I dont know if this is expensive for domains

[echo wraith]

Aber das ist nur für die erste 12 Monate

[shell radish]

#general

[little cobalt]

^^

[echo wraith]

aight

[red mist]

Warum zum Fick ist die .de option Bollinger als .info

💀

*Billiger

Sogar .eu ist billiger

Wtfff

.org teurer als .com ergibt eig auch wenig sinn

[stoic patio]

how would you host a domain you purchased from aws on something other than aws

[echo wraith]

Make its dns point to watherer ip your server uses

[stoic patio]

interesting

[hybrid fossil]

Hi there!
I wanted to know if you found it convenient to do an “import discord” in all the files of the project or if you had done otherwise?

[hazy turret]

Is it possible to buy a bot Nitro so that you can upload and share files up to 500 MB with the bot?

[shell radish]

no

[hazy turret]

Does that mean I can only get up to 100 mb via Server Boost Level 3?

[echo wraith]

Not really, but if you structure your code well, not all files would need that

[stoic patio]

pycharm tells me that intent attributes are read only, so would doing smth like that have any effect

[echo wraith]

no you can ignore

[stoic patio]

so they do have effects?

[little cobalt]

pycharm want you to remove the spaces at the =

but you can ignore stuff like that

[stoic patio]

bruh

i'm asking about intents.reactions and intents.polls

[errant trout]

This works fine

[stoic patio]

i see

[echo wraith]

yes

[echo wraith]

but you should probably start with intents.default() and then enable or disable what you need

[stoic patio]

in that case i'd have to disable those things + enable messages, presences, and members, which is more lines

[dense summit]

Hey there, im trying to put some local images in my paginator embeds although they aren't showing. What im missing?

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/QD3A

[errant trout]

You need to pass the files into each page too

[sly karma]

f = discord.File("some_file_path", filename="image.png")
e = discord.Embed()
e.set_image(url="attachment://image.png")
await messagable.send(file=f, embed=e)```

[dense summit]

Thank you very much, i got it

[errant trout]

(Also, commands have a mention attribute you can use instead of formatting it yourself)

[dense summit]

yeah i know but im a little bit confused on how to get the slash command class

[errant trout]

Well you're already doing it

With get_application_command

Or get_command i forget which one applies where

[dense summit]

i just replace #.qualified_id with #.mention right?

[errant trout]

Ah get_command works if you're using discord.Bot

Pretty much, and remove the other </ parts since it's all included

[dense summit]

yeah thank you

[sage tendon]

that's not the issue, and not what any linter would suggest

youd only ever consider that for passing kwargs

[unique quartz]

Does anyone know how to use the emojis thing in the dev portal?

[errant trout]

do you mean through the api, or the actual portal?

[unique quartz]

API.

[errant trout]

see #1132206148309749830 message, it's currently not merged to master

[sage tendon]

you can still just use the emoji markdown, no?

[errant trout]

well yeah, but they probably mean actual management of the emojis

[unique quartz]

Hm okay.

[echo wraith]

Is there an issue for tracking forwarderd messages support?

[errant trout]

we didn't open the pr yet because it's still widely unsupported and unfinished on discord's end

[echo wraith]

k thanks

[digital bear]

Is there a way to test slash commands without waiting for an hour?

[sage tendon]

...why would you need to wait an hour?

[digital bear]

Thats what these guys were saying: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/71096160/pycord-slash-commands-how-do-you-set-guild-ids-too-all-guilds-bot-is-in

[sage tendon]

that was never really true

restart discord and they'll appear

commands sync in seconds

[digital bear]

Okay thanks, i'll try that since I don't like waiting

[errant trout]

it was true when slash rolled out, the answer is just outdated

[digital bear]

Restarting discord client indeed fixed it, thanks

[sage tendon]

i think i tried making slash commands on day 1 but i dont recall ever waiting longer than like 1m max

[sage tendon]

use ctrl+r, its faster

and you dont have to restart if you only change the function content

[digital bear]

Thanks, I didn't know about that

[errant trout]

it was widely tested and actually announced that global commands would take that long to sync, lib devs wouldn't have pushed users to use guild commands so strongly otherwise

[sage tendon]

prolly cause my bot wasnt in a lot of servers then

[digital bear]

Yes, I was adjusting my existing commands and that was all instant and then I got confused once I added a new command

[short rivet]

actually in slash commands even if u type hint a parameter as discord.Member still it will get discord.User because discord returns a user object so they would have to add an additional line to get the member object and that would be member = ctx.guild.get_member(user.id)

[sage tendon]

no.

that is just completely wrong

It's only a user object if the ID that was supplied is of someone who is not in the server

If the person is in the server, it will always be discord.Member unless the command is from a user app

[lofty parcel]

That wrong lol

Discord always supplies a discord.User

It's the library that makes the conversion

Or that's what I remember Nelo said

[errant trout]

not quite

[lofty parcel]

I shut

[errant trout]

the option type is ONLY user (i.e. if you annotate member: discord.Member, discord just interprets it as a user - this is why you can pass any user ID, not just member IDs)
discord does the conversion on their end and will return either member or user

[sage tendon]

yep

it's kind of dumb that you can't force it to actually be only member, since right now you have to handle the case that a non-member is submitted in any member options

[grizzled loom]

There is even more to it,
You also have to handle the possibility that you get Discord.User in some rare cases.
(it happens, trust me)

[sage tendon]

thats... exactly what i just said

[grizzled loom]

OHHHH

Silly me, i thought you were refering to "None" as in "can't find any data for some odd reason"

I beg your pardon Mr. Toothy 🙃

[little cobalt]

got channel permission change a hard ratelimit like renamen them?

I know if you change the channel name its like 2 every 10 minutes

but is that also for permissions?

[errant trout]

don't think it's nearly as strict, no

channel names were made stricter because discord got tired of people using them as live counters

[oblique sable]

hey guys, any idea why my bot is doing that? when sending the right file

however when i send a wrong voice or a wrong file extension it does not

my friend tried it, it worked for him, not for me

it doesnt even print the content just says failed

[errant trout]

nothing in console?

[oblique sable]

nope

for my friend it worked and printed the content in my console

[errant trout]

how big is the file you're uploading

i'd try deferring before file.read

[oblique sable]

ughh my bad i changed pc and didnt turn on auto save on vscode 😭 so it was blank

[errant trout]

rip LOL

[oblique sable]

spent like 20m on that

[red mist]

With server members etc.

[shadow sigil]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.Command.usage what does this do?

[errant trout]

it's a way for the user to have a custom example of how a prefix command works

the default help command of commands.Bot displays command.signature, which is a list of arguments

if you specify usage in a command, it will be used instead of the default signature

(it's easier to understand if you just try your bot's default help command)

[shadow sigil]

I can't tell a difference between when I have usage="..." and when I don't

[errant trout]

you would have to compare on an individual help command (e.g. help command_name)

[shadow sigil]

OH

I see

it's the [args...] part in -command [args...]

[errant trout]

mhm

[shadow sigil]

I kept changing it to some small text and missing it as a result

[umbral gazelle]

How can I get name from interaction_metadata as in deprecated interaction.name?

[sage tendon]

the username?

[umbral gazelle]

nope

[sage tendon]

then the name of what lol

[umbral gazelle]

I used it to get the name of the application command

[sage tendon]

ctx.command

[umbral gazelle]

message object

[sage tendon]

ah

no clue then

[umbral gazelle]

That's very sad.

[sage tendon]

Luma, they only have the message

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.Message.interaction
discord.MessageType.interaction_premium_upsell

[echo wraith]

Maybe?

Wait it's deprecated

#1130595287078015027 message

[red mist]

Damn you actually use French keyboard layout- respect

[fresh sierra]

So use the message to get the context and then use that

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.ext.commands.Bot.get_context
discord.ext.commands.Bot.get_application_context
discord.ext.commands.Bot.get_autocomplete_context

[sage tendon]

i doubt they'd need to go off a message object if its their own bot's commands

they'll need to tell us

[echo wraith]

They don't have interaction. message.interaction is deprecated

And that is the parameter required in get_context

[fresh sierra]

Message is not the requirement for the context ?

Ooo maybe not since it’s for slash command and not prefix in this case

[echo wraith]

No it's interaction

[fresh sierra]

Yep mb

[fresh sierra]

OFC French >

[echo wraith]

This is German and swiss layout

[red mist]

Yeah Qwertz

English is Qwerty

[echo wraith]

Qwertz >> Qwerty

Literally just inverted z and y

[red mist]

Yeah and then comes the French keyboard..... What the-

[echo wraith]

Bepo is fire but I'm not motivated enough to learn how to use it

[red mist]

*how to

:>

(edit it a 3rd time tehheeh)

[echo wraith]

4th actually

[red mist]

4th?

Damn

[umbral gazelle]

How can I supress DeprecationWarning?

[sage tendon]

fix it and dont use something that's deprecated :>

[rancid arrow]

is it possible to add an image to embed that's not a url but a file

[little cobalt]

.local-file

[sly karma]

f = discord.File("some_file_path", filename="image.png")
e = discord.Embed()
e.set_image(url="attachment://image.png")
await messagable.send(file=f, embed=e)```

[rancid arrow]

thanks

[umbral gazelle]

there is no interaction.name alternative

[echo wraith]

continue using interaction.name and hope discord adds an alternative in the mean time

[umbral gazelle]

That's what I want to do, but I need to suppress the DeprecationWarning.

[errant trout]

disable logging? lol

or just edit the library and remove it yourself

[lapis dock]

import warnings
warnings.filterwarnings("ignore", message="divide by zero encountered in divide")

-# Source
I think this should work

[errant trout]

interaction_metadata.name actually does exist on the api, but discord is intentionally leaving it undocumented

[lapis dock]

changes the message to whatever warning you are getting ofc

[umbral gazelle]

Looks like it's not working.

[sage tendon]

show your code

[digital bear]

What is the best practice for catching errors like this?

discord.errors.DiscordServerError: 503 Service Unavailable (error code: 0): upstream connect error or disconnect/reset before headers. reset reason: connection termination

[sage tendon]

what are you doing that causes that error

[digital bear]

It rarely happens, but it completely crashes the bot I think

It was with a simple channel.purge, but I think Discord servers were having issues that time

[sage tendon]

pycord should completely handle such errors, and it shouldnt crash the bot

[digital bear]

Hmm, okay i'll let it go for now, no use on adding a lot of try and excepts everywhere for something that rarely happens

[sage tendon]

can you show the full traceback

[sage tendon]

if anything, you make a global error handler for that

[digital bear]

Sure, this is it:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/akkie100/.local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/discord/ext/tasks/init.py", line 169, in _loop
await self.coro(*args, **kwargs)
File "/home/akkie100/fintwit-bot/src/cogs/loops/timeline.py", line 144, in get_latest_tweet
await self.on_data(tweet, update_tweet_id=True)
File "/home/akkie100/fintwit-bot/src/cogs/loops/timeline.py", line 172, in on_data
e, category, base_symbols = await make_tweet_embed(
File "/home/akkie100/fintwit-bot/src/util/tweet_embed.py", line 80, in make_tweet_embed
e, category, base_symbols = await add_financials(
File "/home/akkie100/fintwit-bot/src/util/tweet_embed.py", line 331, in add_financials
await tweet_overview.overview(category, base_symbols, prediction)
File "/home/akkie100/fintwit-bot/src/cogs/loops/overview.py", line 59, in overview
await self.make_overview(category, tickers, sentiment)
File "/home/akkie100/fintwit-bot/src/cogs/loops/overview.py", line 181, in make_overview
await self.crypto_channel.purge(limit=1)
File "/home/akkie100/.local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/discord/channel.py", line 456, in purge
return await discord.abc._purge_messages_helper(
File "/home/akkie100/.local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/discord/abc.py", line 176, in _purge_messages_helper
await ret[-1].delete(reason=reason)
File "/home/akkie100/.local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/discord/message.py", line 1365, in delete
await del_func
File "/home/akkie100/.local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/discord/http.py", line 371, in request
raise DiscordServerError(response, data)
discord.errors.DiscordServerError: 503 Service Unavailable (error code: 0): upstream connect error or disconnect/reset before headers. reset reason: connection termination

[echo wraith]

Ooh loops don't have error handling

I already had that once

like if a loop crashes once it will never re-run

[digital bear]

What did you do to fix it?

[echo wraith]

unless you restart

[echo wraith]

show me your /home/akkie100/fintwit-bot/src/cogs/loops/overview.py

[sage tendon]

well in that case it is probably best to put a try except around that because i have no idea if loop / task errors have an event / listener

[digital bear]

https://github.com/StephanAkkerman/fintwit-bot/blob/main/src/cogs/loops/overview.py

[digital bear]

Yeah I think I might if it happens more often, I just added a /restart command so I can restart it if i cant access the terminal

[sage tendon]

you cant restart your bot with a command if it isnt running lol

[digital bear]

Hmm, I wonder how critical the error was now

[echo wraith]

import logging
...
    def __init__(...):
        ...
        self.global_overview_loop.start()
        ...

    @loop(minutes=5)
    async def global_overview_loop(self):
        try:
            await self.global_overview()
        except Exception as e:
            logging.error(e) # this is an example, add your own error handling here
            
    async def global_overview(self):
        if util.vars.tweets_db.empty:
            return
        # rest of the code

[sage tendon]

i find it very odd that it complains about line 144 when that is just else:

[echo wraith]

it isn't else it is get_latest_tweet

[sage tendon]

"line 144"

[echo wraith]

wait nvm

mb wtf did I just say

[digital bear]

Yeah the error is from some time ago, I was working through my issues so the current code is probably already a bit different then at the time I got that error

[echo wraith]

Make something like this for every loop. Or maybe make your own decorator that does that if you have many loops

[digital bear]

Thanks, that's a good idea!

[lapis dock]

Loop.error this could help too

[digital bear]

I didn't know that's an option, I was using it for my commands but somehow didn't think of using it for loops

[lapis dock]

I just found it now when skimming the docs XD

[digital bear]

Haha glad i'm not the only one that didn't know if its existence

[echo wraith]

I wonder if it restrts the task... I will check too

[digital bear]

So i'm thinking if I add this:

@global_overview.error
    async def overview_error(self, error: Exception):
        logging.error(f"Error in global_overview loop: {error}")
        # TODO: add more code

It should be able to handle errors better.

[sage tendon]

# TODO: add more code
looooool

[digital bear]

haha before anyone says that more code should be added

Thanks again for the help, now I have an idea how to handle this

[shell radish]

there should be two spaces after the pound symbol and text

you probably don’t care

[umbral gazelle]

Is it possible to get guilds of a certain shard like in bot.guilds?

[fresh sierra]

no but you can do for guild in self.bot.guilds if guild.shard_id == ...

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.AutoShardedClient.shards
discord.AutoShardedClient.shard_ids

[shell radish]

.shards returns a map of shard_id to guilds

[fresh sierra]

How can i create a event that is trigger only when the cog is loaded

kinda like the cog_onload but for the loading

[errant trout]

i'll make a tag for it, but here's an example of custom events #998272089343668364 message

[fresh sierra]

and ig you put the bot.dispatch inside the init

i will try that thanks

[errant trout]

it might NOT work in init during load, since the listener might not exist at that point in time

hmm

[fresh sierra]

yeah true

[errant trout]

eh give it a try i guess

i was personally thinking you just dispatch it after using load_extension

(maybe override it to super().load_extension -> dispatch with get_cog)

[fresh sierra]

yep it does not work

[errant trout]

oh wait

just dispatch it in setup

way easier

[fresh sierra]

what i will do ig is since i have many cog and a func update it will first load everything and then dispach it for all of them

[errant trout]

but you only need a single dispatch

[fresh sierra]

like so
-> unload
-> update file
-> load
-> dispatch

yep

[errant trout]

so i guess it's back to your own function

[fresh sierra]

yep i added it in my setup hook

that is trigger when i update my bot

and it works

thanks nelo

[errant trout]

allgood

[deft kestrel]

how to have the "status" with the phone icon?

[lofty parcel]

It's kind of a work to do it
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/70903401/how-do-i-get-mobile-status-for-discord-bot-by-directly-modifying-identify-packet

[sage tendon]

TLDR not worth

[shell radish]

and isn't it technically against tos

[lofty parcel]

But breaking the rules is fun

[deft kestrel]

okay, then i will not do it

[red mist]

Lmao watch me host my bot on an android 4.3 tablet

Because then technically speaking my bot is on mobile

[opal swan]

is await ctx.create_custom_emoji bug ?

or the function await emoji.read() ?

[echo wraith]

Not yet out

[digital bear]

I just tested this but it seems that the whole loop will be killed after raising an error once

[digital bear]

So this is probably the best approach if the loop should try again later

[digital bear]

Did you have the same results?

[echo wraith]

That would probably be the best idea, because besides, depending on what error you catch, you might want to have a different error handling there.

[echo wraith]

I did not test yet

@sage tendon do you think it would make sense to open an issue about loops not restarting if they crash?

maybe a decorator

[digital bear]

Yeah you could match them again in the error decorator, but maybe a fatal crash should cause different behavior then a wrong http response or so

[opal swan]

bruh fr ?

[echo wraith]

there is a pr: https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/pull/2501

[opal swan]

...

[echo wraith]

Well you can't expect everything to comme immediately. In any case, you can still upload emojis in the ddev portal and use them in your bot's messages witht heir id

once it is in master, you can use the github version of you want

[opal swan]

nah I want to copy emoji of other server and create it in the guild but it didn't work

[echo wraith]

oooh

my bad sorry

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.Guild.create_custom_emoji

[opal swan]

wth did you though ?

[opal swan]

IK I READ this

[echo wraith]

wait 'm explaining to you

it isn't ctx. it is ``ctx.guild.`

ctx is an application context

you need to use the guild object

[opal swan]

imo it's the thing image

[opal swan]

I know

mb

[echo wraith]

Can you send me then entire code where you take the emoji from the first guild and add it to the other?

[opal swan]

wanna see my code to check or no ?

[opal swan]

look dm

[opal swan]

done

look on ur dm

[digital bear]

I made a decorator for it so I can use it on all my loops:

from functools import wraps

def handle_errors(func):
    @wraps(func)
    async def wrapper(*args, **kwargs):
        try:
            return await func(*args, **kwargs)
        except Exception as e:
            logger.error(f"Error in {func.__name__}", exc_info=e)

    return wrapper

Still need to add more exceptions but it works

[echo wraith]

nice

[fresh sierra]

You have a decorator @loop.error and inside of it you can add ur custom logic

So for example log the error and then start the loop again

[echo wraith]

yeah but it's wierd to make the loop crash if any error happens

[fresh sierra]

Its logical

Since it’s a loop

Imagine a while or a for in that continue Even with error

It would be a giant mess

[fresh sierra]

@digital bear

[digital bear]

I know but my loops rarely crash and if they do i don't really care if they continue, they are repeating like every 4 hours or so

If they crash it's either Discord's servers fault or the website that i'm scraping lol

Depending on the error I could always stop the loop manually or restart it

[echo wraith]

I'll pr some documentation that says that bc the first time I did it wasn't intuitive at all.

[fresh sierra]

Yeah maybe, but that how I think because for me this loop is like a while or a for in so it should have the same behavior. Maybe other will have different option ion

Maybe even add an arg restart after error

[echo wraith]

Yeah

[echo wraith]

Is there just buttons and select menus as ui elements?

[sage tendon]

modals

[echo wraith]

yeah ok but apart from that it's it

[sage tendon]

yea

[echo wraith]

right thanks wanted to be sure

cuz I'm making the reactive views thing

[echo wraith]

in this thing

if TYPE_CHECKING:
    from ..emoji import Emoji
    from .view import View

B = TypeVar("B", bound="Button")
V = TypeVar("V", bound="View", covariant=True)


class Button(Item[V]):
    """Represents a UI button.

there is this B and V typevars. How do I use this thing if I subclass button? And what is it for exactly?

[quartz umbra]

Hello, I would like to implement some functionality, but I'm not quite sure how to approach it
What I want is this: A message is sent with the bot's reaction. I then would want to wait for x time (say 20 minutes), and listen for if a certain user reacts to this message, if this time runs out and the user has not reacted to the message, I want to do some other action.

Can anyone help me implement this logic?

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.Bot.wait_for
discord.ext.commands.Bot.wait_for

[sage tendon]

bot.wait_for

oh nvm im slow

[echo wraith]

You can use the wait_for. Basically ou give it an event, a timeout and a check to see if it is what you want, and it will raise a timeout error when it times out and return the reaction or whatever that returns if it finds it with the check

[echo wraith]

@sage tendon An idea on this? I'ts too complex for me.

[quartz umbra]

Yeah, sorry, just was reading the docs, thanks a lot, this is what i was looking for

[echo wraith]

no problem :)

[sage tendon]

go away with typevars, thats one part of python i find extremely ugly lmao

[echo wraith]

they got better in py 3.12 cuz now they have their own syntax but I don't want my lib to be 3.12 only lol

[quartz umbra]

this is very basic but say I call this: ```py
async def foo(x):
y: int = await something_that_takes_a_while(x)
print(y)
print("Hello there")

would the output be: ```bash
Hello There
<some number>

or bash <some number> Hello there

aka, does an await call stop execution?
If it does stop execution, how do you have something running in the background in py-cord? Do you have to use multiprocessing / threading?

[sage tendon]

async isnt threading

if you ran that function in a thread, it'd print like the top example (most likely, depends on the timing)

but normal async doesnt change the order in which code is executed

await means "wait here until this function finishes, and in the meantime, free the thread to do other stuff" e.g. handle other commands

also your example is kinda wrong, for your example to work properly you'd have to print inside of the async function, but i get what you mean lol

And sidenote cause i noticed you're typehinting the variable definition, you don't have to do that if the return type of the function you're calling is a single type (multiple work too, but is ambiguous)

[echo wraith]

pycord suddently broke

 system, node, release, version, machine = infos = os.uname()
                                                      ^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: module 'os' has no attribute 'uname'. Did you mean: 'name'?

[little cobalt]

?

[sage tendon]

that has absolutely nothing to do with pycord

[echo wraith]

i have no idea what happend it was running now it isn', but probably has nothing to do with pycord

you are right

bro wtf
AttributeError: partially initialized module 'discord' has no attribute 'ui' (most likely due to a circular import)

[little cobalt]

Can you show the pip list pls

[echo wraith]

╭───────────────────────┬─────────┬────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮
│ name                  │ version │ location                                                   │
├───────────────────────┼─────────┼────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ aiohappyeyeballs      │ 2.3.4   │                                                            │
│ aiohttp               │ 3.10.0  │                                                            │
│ aiosignal             │ 1.3.1   │                                                            │
│ attrs                 │ 23.2.0  │                                                            │
│ basedpyright          │ 1.15.1  │                                                            │
│ frozenlist            │ 1.4.1   │                                                            │
│ idna                  │ 3.7     │                                                            │
│ multidict             │ 6.0.5   │                                                            │
│ nodejs-wheel-binaries │ 20.16.0 │                                                            │
│ py-cord               │ 2.6.0   │                                                            │
│ pycord-reactive-views │ 0.1.0   │ -e C:\Users\Jérémie\Documents\GitHub\pycord-reactive-views │
│ python-dotenv         │ 1.0.1   │                                                            │
│ ruff                  │ 0.5.6   │                                                            │
│ yarl                  │ 1.9.4   │                                                            │
╰───────────────────────┴─────────┴────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯

[sage tendon]

whatever that view package is, that's likely it

[echo wraith]

no that's myself

it's the project I' making and I rolled git back to when it worked and nothing changed

[sage tendon]

reinstall pycord

[echo wraith]

I did that like 4 times now

[sage tendon]

can't view this rn, mobile

[echo wraith]

AttributeError: partially initialized module 'socket' has no attribute '_GLOBAL_DEFAULT_TIMEOUT' (most likely due to a circular import)

[sage tendon]

man

nuke your venv

reinstall it

[little cobalt]

lol

[echo wraith]

already done that

[sage tendon]

then give up

[sage tendon]

because that's crazy

[little cobalt]

try 3.11

[echo wraith]

yeah was about to do that

but I don't see why since 3.12 always worked since today now...

[sage tendon]

try it

programming is magic we all know that

[echo wraith]

lol

TypeError: _patch_task.<locals>.task_new_init() got an unexpected keyword argument 'eager_start'
python-BaseException
sys:1: RuntimeWarning: coroutine 'ClientRequest.write_bytes' was never awaited

[sage tendon]

time for a new project

[echo wraith]

yeah

doing 3.11 rn

3.11 works YEEEEE

[sage tendon]

good luck debugging why it doesn't work on 3.12

[nova epoch]

?rtfm discord.commands.SlashCommandGroup

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.commands.core.SlashCommandGroup

[sage tendon]

you can use the doc search yknow

[echo wraith]

Ok no dosen't work on 3.11 either

HOWEVER

[sage tendon]

meme

[echo wraith]

I found the issue

and you will never believe it

[sage tendon]

go on

[echo wraith]

SO basically I have a folder called examples

And what I do is that I create the lib and write the examples

and run the examples to see if it works

I added a new example

and the name of the file broke everything

I called my example select.py

[sage tendon]

wow

[echo wraith]

and for some reason python decide that that should be used instead of discord's own select.py file

[sage tendon]

namespace collisions

always bad

[echo wraith]

yeah

[little cobalt]

what would be a "good" way to get a category?

[sage tendon]

get_channel

[deft kestrel]

how to put the time in embed footer? like that but "Today at [...]"

[errant trout]

set embed.timestamp to a datetime object

(if you want the current time discord.utils.utcnow() is convenient, but it can be any time you want)

[deft kestrel]

ok

thank you

[amber galleon]

So I am trying to remake my bot in pycord. The commands work, but I keep getting an error message that the application did not respond. Never used pycord b4 so all help is appreciated! ```import random
import discord
from discord.ext.commands import Bot
from discord.ext import commands

bot = commands.Bot()

@bot.slash_command(name='motivationalunicorn',
description="Writing advice, prompts, and motivation!",
brief="A unicorn that helps you navigate through the journey of writing.")
async def motivational_unicorn(ctx):
possible_responses = [
'Virtual huggie!',
'Who is the best? You are!',
'YOU CAN DO IT!',
'You will never know if you do not try',
'You have come so far!',
'You got this!',
'Hang in there!',
'You are unstoppable!',
'You will take the world by storm!',
'I am so proud of you!',
'You are creating something out of nothing and that is a huge deal!',
'No matter what happens, you started something big and no one can take that away!',
'Do not give up!'

]
await ctx.respond(random.choice(possible_responses))

[lofty parcel]

Show the full traceback

[sage tendon]

i dont think brief does anything for slash commands btw

[amber galleon]

This is what the error looks like. I don't see anything in my terminal.

[echo wraith]

What happens if you change commands.Bot to discord.Bot? It should still behave the same but better double checking.

.tag client

[sly karma]

discord.Client # just for events
discord.Bot # events + slash/user/msg commands
commands.Bot # above + prefixed commands
bridge.Bot # above + bridge commands (application commands and text commands in one)

[sage tendon]

that should only happen if you use ctx.channel.send

[echo wraith]

Are you sure you're using respond and not send?

Maybe check that dpy isn't still installed

[amber galleon]

@echo wraith I changed it to discord.Bot and now it works!

Thank you!

[sage tendon]

that shouldnt happen tho lol

[amber galleon]

what part?

[sage tendon]

it not working lol

[amber galleon]

oh

what is it doing that is wrong? The error message disappeared.

[sage tendon]

can you show your pip list

[sage tendon]

... not work lol, thats whats wrong

it should respond like normal

with commands.Bot as well

[lofty parcel]

Tf

[sage tendon]

yea it might be discord.py being installed alongside

pip list would help

[dense summit]

Hey there, im trying to make an help command where i can switch between command categories with a dropdown menu. Im trying to use paginator but im at a dead point i don't know how to switch to the new embed when a person select the category from the dropdown menu.

This is my command:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/2ZHQ

This is my dropdown callback in another file:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/NVIA

[dense summit]

Or do i need to use page groups and how? there are no examples.

[lofty parcel]

I was about to mention page groups

pages in PageGroup is your list of embeds for each command (I assume each command has its own embed)

And then you care about label and description which is what the Dropdown will use later

[cobalt belfry]

Has anyone successfully webhook.edit_message'd an image that has alt text/description? I can add an image, but it doesn't seem like the description gets submitted (can move to a thread if that's preferred).

[dense summit]

I have to create a page group for each category right?

[cobalt belfry]

I've tried

files=[discord.File(description="Whatever", ...)]
chunked_messages[idx] = await webhook.edit_message(
message_id=chunked_messages[idx].id,
content=content,
thread=thread,
files=files,
)

as well as stuff like

chunked_messages[idx].attachments[0].description="Whatever"
attachments=[chunked_messages[idx].attachments[0]]
chunked_messages[idx] = await webhook.edit_message(
message_id=chunked_messages[idx].id,
content=content,
thread=thread,
attachments=attachments,
)
``` (since I'd expect that to `PATCH` the existing attachment to add a description field, please assume that content and thread are sane non-null values)

[deft kestrel]

can i use Context Menu Commands in DM with users?

authorizing my app in my account

[sage tendon]

of course

[shell radish]

you can remove the attachment and add a new one. I think this is the intended way

[cobalt belfry]

That makes sense, but I'm also failing to add a fresh attachment with a description property (first example)

[shell radish]

something like this perhaps

await webhook.edit_message(
message_id=chunked_messages[idx].id,
content=content,
thread=thread,
files=files,
attachments=[]
)

[cobalt belfry]

I'm making files via something like

discord.File(buffer, filename=name, description=prompt[:1024])
``` where buffer is a `io.BytesIO` off of an `aiohttp` request, and I'm sure that `prompt` is a non-zero length string because I just used it for generating the image.

[shell radish]

I haven't really worked with attachments on webhooks, but maybe it requires two separate edits: one to remove and another to add?

[cobalt belfry]

Sorry, revising my kinda n00b question here - I'm sending a webhook with no attachments initially, then retrieving an image in the background and updating with a new attachment. I have a good image description and want to attach it as alt text, but I don't understand how the web request is being generated to see if it's being sent to Discord (Discord bug) or if it's not (PyCord bug). Could I get a pointer to how editing a WebhookMessage creates a PATCH request with a body?

[errant trout]

from what i can tell either:

• we didn't implement certain attachment compatibility in webhooks
• discord doesn't allow it (which i find unlikely?)

[carmine jackal]

@sage tendon Sorry, where's the exact link to user apps documentation?

[deft kestrel]

@bot.user_command(
    name="test",
    integration_types={
        discord.IntegrationType.guild_install,
        discord.IntegrationType.user_install,
    },
    )```
like that?

[rugged lodge]

Here's the slash users example.

[deft kestrel]

ok

[lofty parcel]

Yeah

Each page group would be your category

[errant trout]

ok yeah, identified

[dense summit]

alright i got it finally

[carmine jackal]

thank you

[errant trout]

fixed with the code changes in https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/pull/2513

[cobalt belfry]

Amazing! Thank you so much, I'll test now.

[errant trout]

hmmmmm, behaviour is still inconsistent with normal message edits...

but that's more of a cache thing, not something we can deal with

not without restructuring how webhook messages work anyway

[cobalt belfry]

Patch seems to work for my use case. Cheers, appreciate the help, and now I know more about where this gets serialized to debug in future.

[stoic patio]

why do i get the feeling that my bot does the on_ready event whenever it resumes its session

[shell radish]

because the event does fire

[stoic patio]

i thought that was on_resumed?

[shell radish]

the session may not necessarily be resumed

[stoic patio]

interesting

why's that

how likely is it that that's my own fault

[shell radish]

like none

[stoic patio]

so it's always on discord's end if it doesn't just resume normally?

[shell radish]

not always

[stoic patio]

so when would it my fault if that happens

[tidal vessel]

@shell radish Sorry if I'm annoying, what is the limit of characters a bot can send in a message? Is it the same as the normal user? (a user who does not have nitro)

[errant trout]

2000 in content

[shell radish]

on the top of my head, if your computer gets shut down

[stoic patio]

interesting

i'm asking about issues with the bot

[tidal vessel]

ok ty!

[quartz umbra]

In Py-Cord, how do I have a function, take for instance: ```py
async def foo(x):
sleep(10)
print(10)

run in the background, say in exec, something like this?:```py
<call foo>
print(20)

output:

20
10

Do you use multiprocessing / threading or can you do it in py-cord differently

I would like to use wait_for in this background process, that's why

[quartz umbra]

should I be using asyncio.create_task?

[echo wraith]

So what you are doing is you want to run some blocking code, and inside of that code use wait_for

May I know exactly what this blocking code is?

[quartz umbra]

sorry, what does the term blocking code mean, exactly?

From the Py-Cord Docs: ```py
@client.event
async def on_message(message):
if message.content.startswith('$thumb'):
channel = message.channel
await channel.send('Send me that 👍 reaction, mate')

    def check(reaction, user):
        return user == message.author and str(reaction.emoji) == '👍'

    try:
        reaction, user = await client.wait_for('reaction_add', timeout=60.0, check=check)
    except asyncio.TimeoutError:
        await channel.send('👎')
    else:
        await channel.send('👍')

That's essentially *exactly* what I want to do, except, its not in `on_message` and there's more logic I want to run after `wait_for` if you get what I mean

cuz my timeout=1200

yo to DM a user is it just user.send() or do I have to call user.create_dm() first?

[fresh sierra]

U can do user.send it will create a dm before automatically

[quartz umbra]

oh ok, thank you.

[quartz umbra]

I will pose my original question better:

I would like to achieve the following: Give a user 20 minutes to react with 👍 to a specific message, but handle this in the background, so that I can handle other logic in the same function. I think discord.Bot.wait_for is exactly what I'm looking for, I just need a way to handle this (dummy) code:```py
def check(reaction, user):
return user == message.author and str(reaction.emoji) == '👍'

    try:
        reaction, user = await client.wait_for('reaction_add', timeout=60.0, check=check)
    except asyncio.TimeoutError:
        await channel.send('👎')
    else:
        await channel.send('👍')

in the background

[echo wraith]

Pycord uses asynchronous code for that. So you just need to put await before wait_for

And that's it so your current code is good

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.Bot.wait_for
discord.Client.wait_for
discord.ext.commands.Bot.wait_for

[echo wraith]

And yeah you would use create task for running multiple things

But what I would do is put the other logic in the background, not the wait_for

In the init

    self.tasks: set[asyncio.Task] = set()

In your thing

        task = asyncio.create_task(YOUR COUROUTINE WITHOUT AWAIT HERE)  
        self.tasks.add(task)
             task.add_done_callback(tasks.discard)

[quartz umbra]

so I use asyncio.create_task(some function), and in some function i have:

    async def some_function():
        def check(reaction, user):
            return user == message.author and str(reaction.emoji) == '👍'

        try:
            reaction, user = await client.wait_for('reaction_add', timeout=60.0, check=check)
        except asyncio.TimeoutError:
            await channel.send('👎')
        else:
            await channel.send('👍')

[echo wraith]

Yeah plus that logic I sent you with self.tasks to store running tasks.

[echo wraith]

Just that some function there doesn't have access to message and channel so you should pass that in as parameters

[quartz umbra]

why do I need that?

[echo wraith]

I had issues when doing without, and besides, it is a best practice

[quartz umbra]

Got it

Tysm

[echo wraith]

np

[graceful spindle]

is it possible to load a new cogs file and register the cog's slash commands?

without having to restart the bot

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.Bot.load_extension
discord.Bot.load_extensions
discord.Bot.reload_extension
discord.Bot.unload_extension
discord.ext.commands.Bot.load_extension
discord.ext.commands.Bot.load_extensions
discord.ext.commands.Bot.reload_extension
discord.ext.commands.Bot.unload_extension

[graceful spindle]

If i use self.bot.load_extension it loads the cog but doesnt register the slash command inside the file

[sage tendon]

i dont think you can

[fresh sierra]

you can

[graceful spindle]

i didnt think you could I just wanted to make sure

oh?

[fresh sierra]

just add await bot.sync_cmmands

[sage tendon]

ah yea

[fresh sierra]

to sync command

[graceful spindle]

thanks ill try that now mate

Thanks

[sand bolt]

Small problem... I hope

I’m creating my own bot but when I have to test it, it doesn’t let me show its commands in the menu. It only goes if I put for exemple "!"

I’m just starting out in programming.

[sage tendon]

if you made them prefix commands, theyll of course just work as prefix commands

show your code

[sand bolt]

import discord
from discord.ext import commands
from dotenv import load_dotenv
from discord import app_commands
import os

# Carica il token dal file .env
load_dotenv('.env')
TOKEN = os.environ['TOKEN']

class Bot(commands.Bot):
    def __init__(self):
        intents = discord.Intents.default()
        intents.members = True
        intents.message_content = True
        super().__init__(command_prefix=None, intents=intents)  # Assicurati che command_prefix sia None

    async def on_ready(self):
        print('Il bot è online e pronto a ricevere comandi!')

    async def setup_hook(self):
       
        # Carica i vari cogs per i comandi
        
        await self.load_extension('cogs.pex_depex')
        await self.load_extension('cogs.staff_break')
        await self.load_extension('cogs.ping')
        await self.load_extension('cogs.counting')  
        await self.load_extension('cogs.exemple')
        print("Comandi caricati")

bot = Bot()

# Evita di utilizzare process_commands in quanto non hai prefisso
bot.run(TOKEN)

[fresh sierra]

the setup hook is not gonna be trigger

there is no setup hook in py-cord

[sage tendon]

put loading the cooks somewhere above bot.run