Basic Pycord Help

[sage tendon]

screenshot

[sage tendon]

Permissions aren't intents

go to Bot > Privileged Gateway Intents

oh wait its right above that

yea just scroll up

[dawn vault]

oh I am stupid

also is there any way to make a message get sent in a certain channel at a specific time of day?

[sage tendon]

yes, read this on that

[dawn vault]

Unclear

[fresh sierra]

Basically the @tasks.loop are some kind of while

so you can add a parameter for it run only at this time

[sage tendon]

what about it

[fresh sierra]

i think he didnt read the whole guide but only the example

You can also pass in a datetime.time object or a sequence of them in the time parameter which will make it run at the specified time(s).

[dawn vault]

the datetime part

[sage tendon]

https://docs.python.org/3/library/datetime.html

or just google "python datetime" and you'll find enough

[dawn vault]

I got it

except

I don't know how to send messages

[sage tendon]

get a channel by ID and .send() using it

[rugged lodge]

Searched in pycord

discord.PartialMessageable.send
discord.PartialMessageable.can_send

[fresh sierra]

i might be to late

[shell radish]

that doesn't seem like a datetime.time object

[fresh sierra]

it should be, strptime return a datetime out a str

[shell radish]

that seems like a datetime.datetime object

not a datetime.time object

[fresh sierra]

i didnt wirte the import from datetime import datetime

[shell radish]

it takes a datetime.time, not datetime.datetime

[fresh sierra]

i see

[dawn vault]

that confuses me

[fresh sierra]

thanks for the correction

[fresh sierra]

what part

[dawn vault]

everything

[shell radish]

so ```py
partial_channel = bot.get_partial_messageable(id)
await partial_channel.send(...)

[sage tendon]

if you do it in a cog and have the task properly defined you can just do

channel = self.bot.get_channel(channel id here)
await channel.send(...)

lol

i've never seen partial_messageable used ngl
when should you use it over get_channel

[shell radish]

you forgot it could be None, so you would need to get_or_fetch it

[sage tendon]

right

[shell radish]

you don't need the full channel object to send a message

[fresh sierra]

it exist for the channel ?

self.bot.get_or_fetch_channel ?

[sage tendon]

and get partial handles that?

[shell radish]

partial is just a partial object. It doesn't have any information about it other than ID basically

and that is enough to send a message

[fresh sierra]

nope doesnt exist

[sage tendon]

ah ic
so you can just send on that regardless of the channel being cached or not?

[shell radish]

yeah, you still have to handle the channel deleted case yourself tho

[sage tendon]

well if its deleted you have different problems /hj

[fresh sierra]

also why does all fetch return None, except the channel return an error ? is that a reason ?

[shell radish]

edge cases are stupid I agree

[shell radish]

what do you mean?

[sage tendon]

yes
do not build anything into your bot that handles anything but the best case
become lawless

[fresh sierra]

if i do self.bot.fetch_channel on a delete channel, it will raise an error

[shell radish]

All fetches make an API request and will throw an error if x does not exist

[fresh sierra]

role = interaction.guild.get_role(int(role_id)) or await interaction.guild._fetch_role(int(role_id))

[shell radish]

get relies on cache

[fresh sierra]

this doesnt

[dawn vault]

I do not get datetime

[fresh sierra]

get_or_fetch_user too but i think its different

[sage tendon]

To make it better, time in any way shape or form is every developer's hell

[shell radish]

yeah because it's a private method

[dawn vault]

I do not understand

[sage tendon]

no

the datetime object goes into the parentheses

it's always @tasks.loop

[rugged lodge]

examples/background_task.py lines 28 to 33

@tasks.loop(
    time=time(3, 0, tzinfo=timezone.utc)
)  # Task that runs every day at 3 AM UTC
async def time_task(self):
    channel = self.get_channel(1234567)  # Your Channel ID goes here
    await channel.send("It's 3 AM!")```

[fresh sierra]

i will send u what i want to know if that possible to u in a minute

[sage tendon]

hah! get channel prevails! /j

[dawn vault]

this makes no sence

[shell radish]

e

[sage tendon]

as i said, time is hell for most developers :)
but yea, check this

[shell radish]

what are you confused about

the example uses from datetime import time

[dawn vault]

I copied the code and it doesn't work

[fresh sierra]

import discord
from discord.ext import commands
bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix="!")

# suggestion possible ?

#member :
await bot.get_or_fetch_user() # -> raise no error and return None

#role
role = guild.get_role() or await guild._fetch_role() # -> raise no error and return None

#channel
channel = bot.get_channel() or await bot.fetch_channel() # raison error 

#fix :
try:
    channel = bot.get_channel() or await bot.fetch_channel() # raison error 
except:
    channel = None

# suggestion1: 
 await bot.fetch_channel() do not raise error

# suggestion2:
await bot.get_or_fetch_channel() # -> raise no error and return None

[fresh sierra]

why, what part, error etc etc

[sage tendon]

it'll only run at 3am utc

[fresh sierra]

need to explain more we are not magician

[sage tendon]

is it 3am utc for you?

[fresh sierra]

+timezone

-timezone

[shell radish]

yeah because get_or_fetch_channel() doesn't exist and guild._fetch_role() is an internal method

[fresh sierra]

(someone know the command ?)

[fresh sierra]

I know but does a get_or_fetch_channel() can exist ?
and maybe also a get_or_fetch_role

[dawn vault]

  File "d:\Rembot\bot.py", line 203, in <module>
    @tasks.loop(time=time(3, 0, tzinfo=timezone.utc))
                                       ^^^^^^^^
NameError: name 'timezone' is not defined```

[sage tendon]

probably also directly imported from datetime

[shell radish]

that's what utils.get_or_fetch() is meant to accomplish

[dawn vault]

?

[sage tendon]

..

from datetime import timezone

blind guess

[fresh sierra]

channel = utils.get_or_fetch(discord.Channel, channel_id) doesnt look really good compared to the base get_or_fetch_member but i think i can still do member.get_or_fetch_channel = function that will use utils.get_or_fetch

[sage tendon]

from discord.utils import get_or_fetch :)
5 characters saved

[dawn vault]

how do i change the datetime timezone?

[sage tendon]

put a different timezone there i'd guess

[dawn vault]

oh well

and it doesn't work

[sage tendon]

"doesn't work" is a most terrible description of your issue

what doesn't work, why do you think / know that

[dawn vault]

I have it set to send at a certain time but when that time comes it doesn't send

[sage tendon]

did you start the task?

[dawn vault]

yes

[sage tendon]

show your code

[shell radish]

do you know what UTC is?

[fresh sierra]

no but like you have to do get_or_fetch(discord.Channel, channel_id) or something like that and not only put the id.

[dawn vault]

yeah

[sage tendon]

see that squiggly line? it means something's wrong

address it

[dawn vault]

I am in utc+2

[sage tendon]

https://docs.python.org/3/library/datetime.html#timezone-objects

[dawn vault]

it is in silly squids code

[shell radish]

please learn how utc works

[sage tendon]

that might be, but you also failed to copy it properly

you forgot the self parameter in the task function

[dawn vault]

?

[fresh sierra]

if you are not using a cog, pls remove the self.bot and only use bot.get_channel

[sage tendon]

oh wiat

[shell radish]

it is 15:26 in utc rn

[sage tendon]

thats not in a cog is it

if it's not in a cog you can remove the self altogether

[fresh sierra]

also are you starting the loop with qotd.start() ?

[dawn vault]

OH

i thought the opposite

[sage tendon]

they said they do

[shell radish]

google UTC

[fresh sierra]

ok mb

[dawn vault]

I took my time and added 2 instead of subtracting 2

[shell radish]

utc + 2 = me

so utc = me - 2

lol

[fresh sierra]

pls too hard

equation

[shell radish]

sorry, I expected people to pass 5th grade math

[shell radish]

I think someone has trouble with equations, then computer science may not be the field for them

[fresh sierra]

he wants to do computer science ?

[sage tendon]

instanceof("programming", computerscience) = True

[fresh sierra]

but also everything will be difficult

math are everywhere

like illuminati !!!

[deft kestrel]

pycord has an event that checked if user used a command? I mean something like this:
on_use_command or something like that

[sage tendon]

on_application_command for slash commands

do not use that with @bot.event though, make a listener

[deft kestrel]

sure thanks

[round venture]

is there a way to refresh discord slash commands cause I hate having to wait after making a slash command

[sage tendon]

restart discord

[round venture]

alr

[sage tendon]

ctrl+r

[round venture]

ty

[round venture]

how do I create a channel with a bot? I've never done it and I don't see it on the docs

anc give roles*

and*

and how do I see if a user has a role 😐, im kinda asking for a bit but the docs aren't very well written (no offense to anyone I just think it leaves out a lot)

[little cobalt]

it is at the docs

[round venture]

where?

I searched up role, give role, channel, create channel

[little cobalt]

search for it

[round venture]

i did

[shell radish]

depends on the context

[round venture]

oh

what about a slash command context

so ApplicationContext

[shell radish]

i mean context in the literal sense, not in code

[round venture]

ahh

wait is it ctx.guild.create_text_channel()

i think i found it

[shell radish]

where do you want to create a channel, whom do you want to give the role to

etc

[round venture]

gotcha

inside of a category

and a text channel

[shell radish]

this category is in the guild that the command was invoked from?

[round venture]

yea

i see ctx.guild.create_text_channel

how do i reference the category?

is it like ctx.guild.get_category or smth?

[little cobalt]

what do you gonna do if you dont have ctx?

[round venture]

i do have ctx

[sage tendon]

categories are also just channels internally

[round venture]

oh

how would I get one

[sage tendon]

bot.get_channel(id)
if you are very sure its cached

(usually it is)

[round venture]

alr tysm

wait is there guild.getchannel?

[shell radish]

you can use ctx.channel.category

[sage tendon]

^^ if you wanna create it in the category the command invoked in
if not, you need to get the category

[round venture]

ye, i just want to get it

it's already there

this bot is only for my server so wont be in any other servers so it will always be there 100% of the itme

time*

[sage tendon]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/models.html#guild :3

[round venture]

ah

so would i just do guild.get_channel()

[shell radish]

probably just fetch it to be safe

[round venture]

alr

tyty

[sage tendon]

or better yet, run a check if its none, and if it is, then fetch

always good to fetch conversatively

(or use discord.utils.get_or_fetch to make that one line)

[shell radish]

ratelimits aren't a problem here

[sage tendon]

Yea, but if its already cached, why not use that

quicker, if anything

[little cobalt]

I started to do all the time get and fetch

[sage tendon]

yea it's nice but you can't always use it

[round venture]

hmm, the category doesn't seem to work

[little cobalt]

that is right

[round venture]

im doing this await guild.create_text_channel(f"{user.name}s-cell", category=guild.get_channel("1234883417217302619")). It's creating the channel but not in the category

[shell radish]

it should be an int not a str

[round venture]

oh yea

whoops

[little cobalt]

you did ""

[round venture]

duh, lol

[shell radish]

and user.name can have illegal characters so be aware of that

[sage tendon]

what happens in that case? are they ignored, or will it fail?

[shell radish]

throws a 4xx iirc

[sage tendon]

wait, don't pomelo usernames use the same charset as channel names now?

no space, only a-Z and 1-9, dashes, underscores?

and .

[round venture]

hmm, how about removing roles from someone? how would I do that

[sage tendon]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/api/models.html#discord.Member

Docs are useful :)

[round venture]

but how would I remove all roles

from a member

[little cobalt]

A lot of stuff is with get and fetch

[sage tendon]

edit :)

[round venture]

whats the difference between a member and a user

how do I get a member from a user?

[sage tendon]

A user is just a plain user
A member is basically a guild-user

you can go member > user but not reverse

[round venture]

oh yea that makes sense

[sage tendon]

but member has everything a user has anyway iirc

[round venture]

what is snowflake

[sage tendon]

an ID

[round venture]

is that just another word for ids

ah

so does remove_roles take a list of ids?

[sage tendon]

read the documentation :)

but i'd just use edit because the lsit of roles you pass there is what the member will have after the fact, so if you pass an empty list, it removes all the roles instantly

[round venture]

ah

[sage tendon]

really the best advice i can give you is to use the docs, a lot
sometimes you need to think a little, like if a ban function is on a member or a guild (actually both in the case of ban in particular, nice example ) but you can really find everything you need on the docs, what type everything needs to be, etc

[round venture]

laaast thing, how do I reference a role

wait nvm

i prob know

[sage tendon]

you dont have to to remove all roles

member.edit(roles=[])

[fresh sierra]

How to pycord

[sage tendon]

pycord is an ffmpeg wrapper

[carmine minnow]

how can I make my buttons persistent view when my class takes parameters?

class ManualReview(discord.ui.View):
    def __init__(self, primDept, secDept, dob, age, firstName, lastName, primCallsign, secCallsign):
        super().__init__(timeout=None)

        self.primDept = primDept
        self.secDept = secDept
        self.dob = dob
        self.age = age
        self.firstName = firstName
        self.lastName = lastName

        self.primCallsign = primCallsign
        self.secCallign = secCallsign


    @discord.ui.button(label="Accept", style=discord.ButtonStyle.green, custom_id="manual_accept")
    async def accept_callback(self, button, interaction):
        await Onboard.onboard(self, interaction, self.primDept, self.secDept)
        ...

    @discord.ui.button(label="Deny", style=discord.ButtonStyle.red, custom_id="manual_deny")
    async def deny_callback(self, button, interaction):
        ...

[sage tendon]

https://guide.pycord.dev/interactions/ui-components/buttons#persistent-views

[carmine minnow]

when using the View i'm doing

            self.bot.add_view(ManualReview(self.primDept, self.secDept, birthday, age, firstName, lastName, primCallsign, secCallsign))
            await logs.send(f"{interaction.user.mention}", embed=embed, view=ManualReview(self.primDept, self.secDept, birthday, age, firstName, lastName, primCallsign, secCallsign))

but its not working

[carmine minnow]

I cannot just do bot.add_view() because it takes parameters

[sage tendon]

i dont see why thats a problem

[carmine minnow]

because the parameters are variable to a command, how am i supposed to set it on initilization

[sage tendon]

add the view to the bot when the command is called

[carmine minnow]

i do, yet it doesnt work

[sage tendon]

what doesnt work

wait, no

[carmine minnow]

the buttons dont work when I restart the bot

[sage tendon]

you are creating a different view lol

[carmine minnow]

yep.

😭

[sage tendon]

yea, dont
pass the view you made

[carmine minnow]

            vooiw = ManualReview(self.primDept, self.secDept, birthday, age, firstName, lastName, primCallsign, secCallsign)
            self.bot.add_view(vooiw)
            await logs.send(f"{interaction.user.mention}", embed=embed, view=vooiw)

[sage tendon]

yea

[carmine minnow]

I see

thank you :3

[carmine minnow]

the buttons still dont work when the bot restarts

[rugged lodge]

Here's the persistent example.

[carmine minnow]

still doesnt support my usecase

[sage tendon]

hm i htink what i said was actually wrong, apparently it works differently and you dont need to pass exactly the view you made

mb

[carmine minnow]

oh

I see

could it have to do with me passing the bot object from my cog?

[sage tendon]

?

[carmine minnow]

class ApplicationModal(discord.ui.Modal):
    def __init__(self, primDept, secDept, bot, *args, **kwargs) -> None:
        super().__init__(*args, **kwargs)

bot is being passed from a cog

[sage tendon]

did you also do self.persistent_views_added = True

[carmine minnow]

that looks unrelated

i dont think that does anything

[sage tendon]

might be important

tbh i never did persistent views so thats about all i can tell you

[carmine minnow]

in the example its just a bool to track which views have been made persistent

it doesnt actually do anything outside of their use

[sage tendon]

ah yea
yea idk

what if you just create a dummy version of your view with whatever parameters and add it to your bot in the on_ready, and then in the command you make the version of the view you want

should work i think

[carmine minnow]

i can try to just supply None

[sage tendon]

if your view still is made then

[carmine minnow]

yeah it didnt like it

2024-04-30 19:54:26.046070 | loaded cogs.verification.verify
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "F:\Coding\[bots]\SOFLRP\bot.py", line 32, in <module>
    client.add_view(ManualReview(None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None))
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "F:\Coding\[bots]\SOFLRP\cogs\verification\manual.py", line 9, in __init__
    super().__init__(timeout=None)
  File "C:\Python311\Lib\site-packages\discord\ui\view.py", line 183, in __init__
    loop = asyncio.get_running_loop()
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
RuntimeError: no running event loop

[sage tendon]

yea idk, everything else would be guessing
maybe someone else knows

its definitely possible tho

[carmine minnow]

yea

[round venture]

Hey guys, I keep getting 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable, any ideas?

the AddBalance and GiveItem arent breaking it btw

[sage tendon]

something is none, what that is is in your error

[round venture]

its not

hold up wait

[sage tendon]

yes, it is

[round venture]

no

[sage tendon]

else python wouldn't explicitly say it's none

[round venture]

it wasnt

i was doing a try catch

give me a sec

im removing it

i was printing it in console

no clue what those are

oh wai tnvm

hold up

[sage tendon]

thats the part of the error that isnt useful

[round venture]

nvm fixed

[round venture]

yea i just realized that

[sour widget]

hello, how can I make autocomplete with guild channels like this?

[fresh sierra]

why use autocomplete, you can just do input_type = discord.TextChannels

[sour widget]

TextChannels doesn't exist and TextChannel does nothing

[fresh sierra]

Why it does nothing ?

[sour widget]

idk

[fresh sierra]

Did you restart ur dusxord

Also you should use the decoration it will be easier for you and better looking. If you want to keep ur thing without decorator I will check why it doesn’t work for you

Here an example for using decorator

    @commands.slash_command()
    @discord.option(name="member", input=discord.Member, required=False)
    @discord.option(name="round", input=int, default=1, required=False)
    async def rockpaperscissors(self, ctx: discord.ApplicationContext, member: discord.Member, round: int):

[sour widget]

thanks

[sour widget]

I've tried and it works with decorators.

[sour widget]

but how do I make the name parameter be different from the variable in the function argument?

ah, there is a parameter_name...

[fresh sierra]

Yep or you can use the name localization if you want to have different name for each country

[carmine minnow]

Does anyone know how to help? I want to make a persistent view with a class that takes parameters, and I can’t just do bot.add_view(ManualReview()) because if the parameters

[lapis dock]

you would need to store the custom parameters in a database and load them when you are creating the view

[sage tendon]

Their issue is, i think, that the view needs kinda "working" parameters, and not just a bunch of empty strings for example
I tried helping them yesterday but i got stuck at that, my last idea was also just to pass any parameters but i dont think that works for their views

[lapis dock]

I dont have time to do a deep explanation but you should probably create a help post and ping me their and I will get back to you later

[carmine minnow]

When I get a chance I will

[fast condor]

is there an official lib for testing bots? I found dpytest on github but that doesnt seem to have much work done recently. How does one write their unittests properly?

[sage tendon]

honestly i doubt you need unit tests in the scope of discord bots
usually its enough to just test your commands with a few inputs and make sure nothing dumb can happen

[fast condor]

I have like 20 different functionalities it is taking over and with every line of code I write I feel fear to break something

[sage tendon]

wdym

[fast condor]

If I improve a game or something I want to be sure I didnt break a part of it in the process

[sage tendon]

make an error handler that sends any error into a channel on your server
and test it yourself as much as you can

[fast condor]

well undesired behaviour might still occure without it fully breaking. So I guess the answer is no real unittesting library?

[sage tendon]

i wouldnt know of one, maybe the others do

[fast condor]

alr thx nevertheless

[edgy nest]

we do not have an official lib for unit tests

[echo wraith]

It's there a way to get the current ping with the gateway?

[sage tendon]

i use {round(self.bot.latency * 1000)}ms but not sure if thats the exact right one

but i labelled it "API latency" in my command so i guess it is the gateway ping

[echo wraith]

ok thanks 🙂

[echo wraith]

I was able to add it to my status page

[frail ocean]

Is there a way to get the voice channel count in a category

[fresh sierra]

yes

there is no attribute but you can just sum them

[frail ocean]

And how?

[fresh sierra]

like that :

voice_channel_count = sum(isinstance(channel, discord.VoiceChannel) for channel in category.channels)

[frail ocean]

Ah okay

Thanks a lot

Dumb question but was is isinstance doing

[sage tendon]

checks if its a voice channel

[fresh sierra]

it check if the first arg is a part of the class of the 2 arg

so if channel is a class discord.VoiceChannel

so you can use that for everything
isinstance(1, int)

etc etc

[frail ocean]

Ah okay thanks

[little cobalt]

What would be a good way to run your bot at the background?

I currently use pm2

[deft bronze]

Didnt work

Today the task repeated again

It repeats after the first time

Like the first task works great, the seconds sends two times

[round venture]

is there a way to get the user from AutocompleteContext

[little cobalt]

which user?

[round venture]

command sender

[little cobalt]

with ctx.author

like the prefix commands

[sage tendon]

check the docs for the context stuff especially

way faster than asking here

and you learn new stuff too

[round venture]

yea i did, coudnt find it

couldnt*

[sage tendon]

just search for autocompletecontext

[round venture]

when I do something like deleting a channel, adding roles it requires the person who ran the command to have permissions to do that. Is there a way to bypass that?

[round venture]

i did

[sage tendon]

don't add the discord. infront

[sage tendon]

I did too just now and it's right there

[round venture]

there was no author

oh

what the flip

im blind ⁉️

[sage tendon]

that's not default behaviour, only the bot has to be able to do that

[round venture]

oh?

really?

lemme test that

[sage tendon]

Autocompletecontext, not ApplicationContext

for autocomplete it's ctx.interaction.user
unless author is an undocumented shortcut

[little cobalt]

I was reading applicationcontext x3

ok its interaction

[fresh sierra]

Open à post post ur code and the issue and ping me I will look at that later

[fresh sierra]

#1235497796694704208 is there a way to do that with bridge ?

[warm jay]

Whats the command for /ping?

[little cobalt]

google it

/ping

;3

[warm jay]

its {bot.latency}

[little cobalt]

yus ^^

but add a * 1000 to it

[warm jay]

ok

[warm jay]

@bot.command()
async def ping(ctx):
    await ctx.respond(f':ping_pong: `{bot.latency * 10000}` is the ~~bot~~ app ping!')
```?

[little cobalt]

you did 1_0000 not 1_000 ;3

[warm jay]

OH

other then that, that should work

[little cobalt]

btw you can do a _ at big numbers

[warm jay]

ik that trick

[little cobalt]

like ```py
number: int = 1_000

[warm jay]

** I already know that trick**

but thanks

[sage tendon]

also, that will be in ms

(with 1000)

[warm jay]

thats what I want, ms

[sage tendon]

yea just so you add it after the number :)

[round venture]

erm how do I run a while true loop with the bot still online?? I did it with threading but it still doesnt work

[sage tendon]

for what?

[round venture]

just some code that i need to run every few seconds

[sage tendon]

what does it do

[round venture]

it simulates a stock market

its not relevant to the solution though

[sage tendon]

ah
you can use tasks for that

[round venture]

how does that work?

is that a built in python feature or a pycord feature

[rugged lodge]

Here's the background task example.

[round venture]

i see

is seconds how often it runs?

[sage tendon]

yes

[round venture]

k

now what if I wanted to have it do something every 5-20 seconds

but its random

can i just put a random.randint in it?

[sage tendon]

no

[round venture]

how should I do that then

[sage tendon]

you can change the interval of tasks though

[round venture]

ah

[sage tendon]

https://docs.pycord.dev/en/stable/ext/tasks/index.html#discord.ext.tasks.Loop.change_interval

[round venture]

rt

ty

[sage tendon]

so just make another task to change the other one's interval

[round venture]

am I doing this wrong? nothing is happening

[sage tendon]

do you start it?

[round venture]

oh, how do I do that

[sage tendon]

all here

[round venture]

nvm i see

[arctic plover]

why am i getting this error when trying to fetch a channel?

File "C:\Users\path-to-venv\venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\client.py", line 1805, in fetch_channel
    data = await self.http.get_channel(channel_id)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Users\path-to-venv\venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\http.py", line 285, in request
    async with self.__session.request(
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: '_MissingSentinel' object has no attribute 'request'

[sage tendon]

show the line in your code that causes that

[arctic plover]

channel = await bot.fetch_channel(1229836602516312104)

nothing interesting

[sage tendon]

can you run pip list in your console and post the output here

[arctic plover]

a2wsgi             1.10.4
aiohttp            3.9.3
aiosignal          1.3.1
annotated-types    0.6.0
anyio              4.3.0
attrs              23.2.0
beautifulsoup4     4.12.3
blinker            1.7.0
Brotli             1.1.0
certifi            2024.2.2
charset-normalizer 3.3.2
click              8.1.7
colorama           0.4.6
DateTime           5.5
Discord-Anti-Spam  1.8.1
fastapi            0.110.1
Flask              3.0.3
frozenlist         1.4.1
fuzzywuzzy         0.18.0
gunicorn           22.0.0
h11                0.14.0
idna               3.6
itsdangerous       2.1.2
Jinja2             3.1.3
keyboard           0.13.5
lxml               5.2.1
MarkupSafe         2.1.5
multidict          6.0.5
mutagen            1.47.0
ngrok              1.2.0
packaging          24.0
pip                24.0
py-cord            2.5.0
pycryptodomex      3.20.0
pydantic           2.6.4
pydantic_core      2.16.3
pytz               2024.1
requests           2.31.0
setuptools         68.2.0
sniffio            1.3.1
soupsieve          2.5
starlette          0.37.2
sudo               1.0.0
typing_extensions  4.11.0
urllib3            2.2.1
uvicorn            0.29.0
websockets         12.0
Werkzeug           3.0.2
wheel              0.41.2
yarl               1.9.4
yt-dlp             2024.3.10
zope.interface     6.3

[sage tendon]

are you running that before on_ready?

[arctic plover]

nah

[sage tendon]

where are you running that line of code

[little cobalt]

what is Discord-Anti-Spam?

[fresh sierra]

like something for an user dont spam ?

you mean an official discord thing ?

[arctic plover]

In a file other than the main one (where the bot is running). Is that the reason?

[sage tendon]

in a cog init or where? can you show the function

[fresh sierra]

how the attribute bot is def?, shouldn’t be self.bot since its a cog ?

[sage tendon]

i think they run it in a cog init using the passed bot parameter so they don't need self, and all that is running when the cog loads aka before on_ready

[arctic plover]

its not a cog

[fresh sierra]

not possible

[sage tendon]

show the function

[fresh sierra]

init are not async

await is async

[arctic plover]

It's big enough

[sage tendon]

we need some info here

[arctic plover]

i`ll try to make it shorter

[fresh sierra]

do like function :
remove until the channel = await

[sage tendon]

from where in your main.py are you calling that function then

[arctic plover]

its not called in main.py

[sage tendon]

i mean just your main file

[lofty parcel]

My gawd just paste your file

?paste

?tag paste

[limber wagon]

Please copy and paste your code here. This makes it easier for everyone helping you.

[lofty parcel]

Why is it so hard to show your file

You ain't hacking the nasa and we don't care at all what your bot is about

[fresh sierra]

i always forget that

[fresh sierra]

@arctic plover use that

[arctic plover]

bot.py:

import discord
bot = discord.Bot(intents=discord.Intents.all())

main.py:

from bot import bot

@bot.event
async def on_ready():
    print('Ready')

bot.run('token')

web.py

@app.post('/feed')
async def feed_post(request: Request):
    xml = await request.body()
    await youtube_handler(xml)
    return Response(status_code=204, media_type='text/plain')

youtube.py:

from bot import bot

async def youtube_handler(xml):
    # useless code
    message = 'Any message'
    channel = await bot.fetch_channel(1229836602516312104)
    message = asyncio.run_coroutine_threadsafe(channel.send(message), bot.loop)

like this

[lofty parcel]

This is not how you handle a bot in multiple files.

You use cogs.

[sage tendon]

wtf lmao

[arctic plover]

this is the code from the Internet, I didn`t redo it

[lofty parcel]

So what

It is still wrong.

[sage tendon]

w h a t in the HELL

[lofty parcel]

I'm assuming you don't know how to code. So, learn python first then come back at developing bots.

?tag lp

[limber wagon]

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[arctic plover]

You have to do this when using a web application, you can't just use await

[sage tendon]

...what

[arctic plover]

import uvicorn
import fastapi
import asyncio
import discord
import threading

bot = discord.Bot(intents=discord.Intents.all())


async def main():
    await bot.get_user(584650504710127616).send('hi')


app = fastapi.FastAPI()


@app.get('/')
async def index():
    await main()
    return 'Hello World'


def run_bot():
    bot.run('token')


bot_thread = threading.Thread(target=run_bot)
bot_thread.start()
uvicorn.run(app, port=8000)

Output:

INFO:     127.0.0.1:52423 - "GET / HTTP/1.1" 500 Internal Server Error
RuntimeError: Timeout context manager should be used inside a task

you should use same loop

[little cobalt]

why threading?

[arctic plover]

To run the bot and the server at the same time ._.

it`s example

[sage tendon]

.rtfm bot.start

[sly karma]

6 results

discord.Bot.start
discord.ext.bridge.Bot.start
discord.ext.bridge.AutoShardedBot.start
discord.AutoShardedBot.start
discord.ext.commands.Bot.start
discord.ext.commands.AutoShardedBot.start

[little cobalt]

you dont need threading for that

[arctic plover]

It won't change anything

[sage tendon]

there is no reason to introduce threading into something that doesnt need it at all

[sage tendon]

and you end up with hellish stuff like this

(apparently)

[arctic plover]

I was just explaining why you need to use run_coroutine_threadsafe

[sage tendon]

yea, but please dont use threading
its completely unnecessary and overcomplicates things

[arctic plover]

kk

[arctic plover]

But how to fix it?

[sage tendon]

You fix your bot

1. dont use threading
2. use cogs

[hybrid tinsel]

how do i populate options with a dynamic list of something for the select menu?
currently i just have the sample but i want to be able to set an arbitrary amount of options (like taking an input number, lets say 10, and then it just puts 1-10 as options)

the specific use case im trying to do is to list people in a voice channel and then display them as choices

[sage tendon]

i think the easiest way to do it is to just pass the voice channel members to the view init, and then handle creating the options there, and then just do options = choices

but there might be a better way, never did selects

[hybrid tinsel]

ill try this out, thanks!

[warm jay]

When I do

@bot.command()
async def start_server(ctx):
    subprocess.run(f'{SERVER_PATH}\\run.bat', shell=True)

or

@bot.command()
async def start_server(ctx):
    os.system(f'{SERVER_PATH}\\run.bat')

I always get this error, but that file is in the same dir as the .bat file

[sage tendon]

well, that isn't really specific to pycord

[warm jay]

Well idk what to post it in

To the python server I guess

[sage tendon]

not really

that error is from the bat for all i can see

[warm jay]

when I manually run the file, it runs

I'll just go to python server

[hybrid tinsel]

is there a correct way of doing this LOL

class PartyView(discord.ui.View):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot
        self.choices = []
        
        for i in range(10):
            self.choices.append(discord.SelectOption(label=f"Option {i}"))
    
    @discord.ui.select(
        placeholder = "Select an option",
        min_values = 1,
        max_values = 2,
        options = self.choices
    )
    async def select_callback(self, select, interaction):
        await interaction.response.send_message(f"Selected option {select.values[0]}")

im not sure if im just blanking but i cant seem to access choices in the init?

or maybe im just misunderstanding how decorators work 💀

[sage tendon]

pass the vc members to the view and make them the values

im not sure selectoptios work without a value

hold on

ah no the value is the label by default

but it should work the way you did it

did you restart discord after changing it

[hybrid tinsel]

well, not technically a discord problem (maybe?)

its just that its not accessing the choices list for some reason

[sage tendon]

ah, yea..

i forgot python's OOP sucks sometimes

[fresh sierra]

you can do it without the decorator

like that :

    select = discord.ui.Select(placeholder=ur thing, etc etc options=self.options)
    self.add_item(select)
    select.callback = self.select_callback

[fresh sierra]

nope, i think its more a python feature

[fresh sierra]

what does mean OOP ?

[sage tendon]

object oriented programming

[fresh sierra]

ok

[hybrid tinsel]

this fixed the funky thing about not being able to access the choices from the init but now im running into weirder issues 😭

class PartyView(discord.ui.View):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot
        self.choices = []
        
        for i in range(10):
            self.choices.append(discord.SelectOption(label=f"Option {i}"))
            
    def select_callback(self, select):
        select = discord.ui.Select(placeholder="Select an option", min_values=1, max_values=1, options=self.choices)
        self.add_item(select)
        select.callback = self.select_callback
            
class Party(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot
    
    @discord.slash_command()
    async def check(self, ctx, channel: discord.VoiceChannel):
        vc = self.bot.get_channel(channel.id)
        member_ids = [member.id for member in vc.members]
        
        await ctx.respond(" ".join([f"{member_id}" for member_id in member_ids]))
        await ctx.respond("Choose flavor!", view=PartyView(bot=self.bot))

still playing around with the logic so im not really going to put the member list in as choices before i understand wtf im doing

[lofty parcel]

1. You didnt super init your view
2. you are missing your select decorator

[sage tendon]

relevant

[lofty parcel]

well they aint doing that either

are they

[sage tendon]

[fresh sierra]

nope like that

[sage tendon]

move this into your init

[sage tendon]

and do 1.

[fresh sierra]

like that :

class PartyView(discord.ui.View):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        super().__init__(timeout=None)
        self.bot = bot
        self.choices = []
        
        for i in range(10):
            self.choices.append(discord.SelectOption(label=f"Option {i}"))
        
        select = discord.ui.Select(placeholder="Select an option", min_values=1, max_values=1, options=self.choices)
        self.add_item(select)
        select.callback = self.select_callback

    async def select_callback(self, interaction: discord.Interaction):
      

like that

[sage tendon]

also keep the select callback async

[lofty parcel]

you can reduce it with

select = discord.ui.Select(placeholder="Select an option", min_values=1, max_values=1, options=[discord.SelectOption(label=f"Option {i}") for i in range(10)])

[fresh sierra]

and to access to the value i know but label idk,
value is like that :
value = interaction.data["values"][0] for one choice and values = interaction.data["values"] for multiple

but dont dropdown choice need a value ?

[sage tendon]

no

[fresh sierra]

nope, only label

[sage tendon]

i said this above already

[fresh sierra]

so maybe interaction.data["labels"][0]

idk for that he will need to do some test

[sage tendon]

go by value

in case thats ever changed

[lofty parcel]

value defaults to the label

[fresh sierra]

also its really easy for the choice to put member

[sage tendon]

They only want the members in a certain voice channel, not simply a member selector

[fresh sierra]

here, you can replace the choice by a discord.ComponentType

[fresh sierra]

ooo

so no that will not work

[fresh sierra]

but to do that that view need to be added constantly to put the channel_id or something like that

[sage tendon]

just pass the channel members to the init
i doubt the view has a lifetime of more than a few seconds

[fresh sierra]

yep if the view doesnt last that not quit difficult

[torpid jackal]

I was going through the docs, still couldn't figure it out, how to respond to slash commands with ephemeral response? (which is only visible to the user who issued command)

I tried ctx.respond("Message", ephemeral=True), no luck

[lofty parcel]

Thats the way. How it doesnt work?

[torpid jackal]

it's sending normal messages as response.

[lofty parcel]

Are you deferring the interaction?

[torpid jackal]

yes

[lofty parcel]

You must pass ephemeral=True to ctx.defer too

[torpid jackal]

Ooooh. gotcha. will try

yup. that worked. Thanks!

[deft bronze]

How can i manage more than 100 msg in this

[lofty parcel]

What

[deft bronze]

if i have more than 100 msg, only 100 are deleted

[lofty parcel]

The max per request is 100.

You should purge the channel twice if it's more than 100.

[deft bronze]

its WAY more than 100

Hoy can i handle that?

Can i loop the history until is no longer >1?

[balmy flicker]

hey guys!

I got an unstable behavior with if bot.user.mentioned_in(message):

it works well when I reply to a bot message(so context will not contain the mention info, but message.mentions will contain the bot as a member).

it sometimes doesn't work when I mention my bot with '@' sign.
Python debugger shows <@&1234> while bot's id is not 1234.
However, when I paste <@&1234> to discord, it's converted to my bot name correctly.

Why does a bot have two different id?
Need some help. 🍻

[lofty parcel]

That'd get you ratelimited very quickly

You can try splitting the purge

[lofty parcel]

Hmm, bots used to have different IDs like very very very long time ago. Have you tried fetching that ID to see if your bot object is returned?

[balmy flicker]

it does.
I've noticed that @sign results a '@&' token rather than a normal '@' token.

[lofty parcel]

@& are roles

Youre probably mentioning your bot's role, not the bot itself.

[balmy flicker]

I've been laughing for 2 minutes.

[hazy turret]

Is there an easy way to find out which invite code a user used to join the server?
Because the member object doesn't have this information, does it?

[fresh sierra]

Nope

You can just store each invite to see which one has gotten 1 more utilisation

The thing that I don’t understand is why we can’t access to the invite code because on discord we have something to do that, the new thing

[sage tendon]

not with bots (yet)

[lapis dock]

I think they will not add it to bots. They have dealt with a lot of abuse with invite tracking and such.

[olive ridge]

Yo, guys, I can't seem to find a menu in pycord's documentation in regards to messaging users privately, is such option even available with pycord? Because the standard method of using await member.send("Text") doesn't really work for me. and responds to my command with Uknown integration message

[fresh sierra]

you need to do both

respond to the interaction

and send the message

with that : await member.send("Text")

you only send the message in private message, but you dont answer too the interaction

[olive ridge]

Thanks <3

[waxen ore]

Which pycord version supports wavelink?

[shell radish]

it’s which version of wavelink supports pycord

[waxen ore]

so which?

[shell radish]

all of them

[waxen ore]

https://github.com/Pycord-Development/guide/issues/442

yeah, exactly

[shell radish]

at least the recent ones

[shell radish]

wavelink works, it’s just the guide’s outdated

[waxen ore]

so i don't get it, wavelink needs discord.py utils to work so it installs, but we can no longer import discord bcs we got some kind of conflict, right?

[shell radish]

you can get around the discord issue by not installing it

there’s a flag you can set that would make it not install dependencies

[waxen ore]

so is this not true? #1132206148309749830 message

[shell radish]

yes

[waxen ore]

okay, i got it

thank you

[waxen ore]

but wait, how it will fix ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'discord.utils'?

[shell radish]

you need to cleanly uninstall discord, discord.py and py-cord

then you can re-install py-cord independently

[waxen ore]

it works, thanks

[fresh sierra]

It work again ?

2.5 was giving an error

While 2.4 was working

[wanton raven]

how can you refresh a page with discord.ext.pages

well how do you use paginator.refresh() would be a better question

[lofty parcel]

Paginator.refresh doesn't exist

What are you trying to do?

[wanton raven]

pages.Paginator.refresh

from discord.ext

[lofty parcel]

Link the documentation to that.

[wanton raven]

there is no documentation

but it does exist

[lofty parcel]

It's probably not stable.

[wanton raven]

oh

alright

[lofty parcel]

What are you trying to do that makes you think you need to use that

[wanton raven]

so basically I've setted up pages that will show information about specific users but the page need to get the information from a seperate json file

and when i use the command to show the pages it shows the information entered before the bot started not the updated one

sorry if my explanations aren't that clear

[errant trout]

this is View.refresh for handling components, unrelated to paginator

[wanton raven]

yeah

i realised that now

mb

[errant trout]

how are you loading the pages

because ideally whenever you use the command you should be making a new Paginator

[wanton raven]

import discord
from discord.ext import commands, pages
from discord.commands import Option

class Case(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot: commands.Bot) -> None:
        self.bot = bot
        self.pages = [
            [
                discord.Embed(title="Mutes", description=""),
                discord.Embed(title="Warns", description=f""),
            ]
        ]

    def get_pages(self):
        return self.pages

#commands...

def setup(bot: commands.Bot):
    bot.add_cog(Case(bot))

[lofty parcel]

You should create your pages on each command invocation.

[wanton raven]

oh

fair

ill try that

[lofty parcel]

That's how you'll get the latest data from your json.

[wanton raven]

thanks

[frail laurel]

is message id unique to discord as a whole or only to guilds??

i mean can 2 separate servers have the same message id

[fresh sierra]

To discord

Every id is unique

[fresh sierra]

Also consider using database and not json

.tag no json

[sly karma]

JSON is a convenient and easy-to-read data storage protocol that's widely accepted by most programming languages. However, we caution against its use for storing and retrieving data in an asynchronous environment like a Discord bot. Don’t use json!

• It's a file-based data storage, which makes it vulnerable to race conditions
• You'll need to implement your own synchronization primitives to avoid corrupting data
• If you're not careful, you could accidentally wipe your entire JSON file.

Solution? Use a database. Recommended schema are SQLite, PostgreSQL, and MongoDB.

• Async libraries exist on pypi for each of these
  sqlite -- aiosqlite (or Danny's wrapper: asqlite)
  postgresql -- asyncpg
  mongodb -- motor
• Databases organize your data into tables, and are fast at inserting, retrieving, and removing records
• You can impose uniqueness constraints to ensure against duplication
• The Python libraries enforce synchronization for you
• The query language is intuitive, you can get running with simple queries in just a few hours!

[sage tendon]

hours? nah, way quicker

[upper flint]

Is there an event that catches new messages specifically in one channel only?

[sage tendon]

No

[upper flint]

Alr, my bad

[sage tendon]

just make an if clause

[upper flint]

There is one issue

The list of channels I want to track is dynamic. Sometimes I add something to this list and sometimes I remove something from it. Should I update event to track new channels everytime that happens?

I am adding these channels somewhere else in the code directly to the database

Nvm, I think I can just create a list somewhere in the bot itself and add/remove these channels from there when updating.

[fresh sierra]

use a database

[balmy flicker]

can I run multiple pycord instances one as an API gateway and others provide different features? so users won't get affected when I'm actively coding for new features.

[maiden bloom]

Is it still not possible to set a custom bot status that doesn't include "Playing" or "Watching", etc.?

[lofty parcel]

It is possible.

[maiden bloom]

Can you give an example or correct mine? This doesn't seem to work:

bot.activity = discord.Activity(type=discord.ActivityType.custom, name=f"Testing custom status.")

[lofty parcel]

bot.activity = discord.CustomActivity(name="Custom status")

[boreal sky]

Is there a way to check that a message exists?

Some kind of caching must be going on because my bot is thinking that a message still exists after being deleted

[fresh sierra]

try to fetch it

[sage tendon]

yes, your bot caches a lot of stuff

[boreal sky]

I don't think you can fetch messages

[fresh sierra]

you can

.rtfm fetch_message

[sly karma]

15 results

discord.abc.Messageable.fetch_message
discord.PartialMessageable.fetch_message
discord.TextChannel.fetch_message
discord.ext.commands.Context.fetch_message
discord.Member.fetch_message
discord.VoiceChannel.fetch_message
discord.ext.bridge.BridgeExtContext.fetch_message
discord.Thread.fetch_message
discord.Webhook.fetch_message
discord.ext.bridge.BridgeApplicationContext.fetch_message
discord.SyncWebhook.fetch_message
discord.ApplicationContext.fetch_message
discord.User.fetch_message
discord.DMChannel.fetch_message
discord.GroupChannel.fetch_message

[boreal sky]

Hmmm

I see

[cobalt comet]

how to create command groups inside cog?

[rugged lodge]

Here's the slash cog groups example.

[little cobalt]

@cobalt comet

[cobalt comet]

no, i mean message command groups

[little cobalt]

Idk if they also have groups

[cobalt comet]

yes, it is in the guide

how do i do this part inside cog?

[little cobalt]

that is at the slash command tab

[little cobalt]

where is it at the guide?

[cobalt comet]

no it is said that it's for message commands

[cobalt comet]

here

[little cobalt]

just do that at a cog?

I dont really see the issue

[cobalt comet]

like what's the decorator for command group inside cog?

[little cobalt]

for the message command it is a good question

[cobalt comet]

i found out that BridgeCommandGroup does exist lol

[fresh sierra]

Message command = prefix command ?

[cobalt comet]

yes

[rugged lodge]

Here's the bridge commands example.

[fresh sierra]

This will help u

[deft kestrel]

just a quick question so the discord.ext its just normal discord import?

[little cobalt]

its discord.ext

[sage tendon]

that's not what they're called

message commands are something completely different

[deft kestrel]

how many inputs i can add to modal?

[sage tendon]

just blindly guessing from discord's usual limits, either 5 or 10

just try it

[deft kestrel]

i checked and its 5 if i want more then 5 then i need two modals?

[sage tendon]

yea, but at that point i'd consider if modals are the right choice

why do you need so many different inputs

[deft kestrel]

for a ticket system

[sage tendon]

well, you cant follow up a modal with another modal instantly
so i think you have to make it another button press or whatever you do rn

or you combine multiple things into one textfield

[little cobalt]

text x5 max

[deft kestrel]

yh yh

[deft kestrel]

ok thanks

[lapis dock]

A good way to "hide" this drawback is to have the button actually serve a purpose instead of just saying "continue" you could have 2 buttons, a confirm and an edit for example

[deft kestrel]

pycord still isnt good with python 3.12 right

[little cobalt]

why?

[deft kestrel]

because i need the exception module from sys lib and its in 3.12

[sage tendon]

works fine

Pycord works fine on 3.12

[deft kestrel]

so i can move to 3.12

[sage tendon]

that's what I'm saying

[frail laurel]

Do I really have to pass bot instance to every view with buttons I create?

class Report_vent(discord.ui.View):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot
        super().__init__()

Can't I just do something like this?
report_channel = await interaction.fetch_channel(REPORT_CHANNEL)
without doing self.bot.fetch_channel xd

[sage tendon]

No

an interaction object does not have a fetch_channel method

and how many views do you have that this is an issue lol

also the naming convention for classes is Pascalcase, not a mix of snakecase and making the word capital

[frail laurel]

3

[sage tendon]

bruh

also don't use fetch unless you really have to

[deft kestrel]

i changed and now i have no module name discord

[sage tendon]

well, install py-cord lol

[deft kestrel]

i have

[sage tendon]

you do not

[deft kestrel]

from the ```py
pip list

[sage tendon]

If you install a new version of python it does not have any modules

[sage tendon]

and this is most likely still using your python 3.11

you should use a venv anyway, if you don't already

[deft kestrel]

i have venv

include-system-site-packages = false
version = 3.12.3

from the venv file

[sage tendon]

I don't think it's working then

[deft kestrel]

you maybe know how to fix this?

[sage tendon]

fix your venv I suppose

because I don't think it's working right

and uninstall python 3.11 to make sure there's no weird stuff

[lofty parcel]

interaction has interaction.client which is the bot object

[sage tendon]

ah, good to know

time to change all my views

[modern trail]

I'm refactoring my bot from a single module into cogs, and in the cog i'm testing, None is suddenly being returned from self.bot.get_channel when previously it was returning the channel object, what are possible reasons for that? Could it be missing intents or something? from not passing the bot object to the cog correctly? I went into a debugger and checked its value:

>>> self.bot.intents
<Intents value=3276799>

[languid sage]

Any way to edit a message of an expired interaction? (the 15 minutes limit)
The interaction is responded as it should but the command could take more than 15 minutes and can't edit it past it:
HTTPException: 401 Unauthorized (error code: 50027): Invalid Webhook Token

[sage tendon]

save the response message

[sage tendon]

that channel just isn't cached

Usually happens when your get runs before on_ready

[modern trail]

oh hmm, so the cog loads before on_ready?

[sage tendon]

yes

i think you can use await bot.wait_until_ready() in the cog init
I'm not sure if that works but it should

[modern trail]

i'll look into that, thanks

[sage tendon]

Actually, it might get stuck lol
Because it loads the cog but the cog load gets delayed until the bot is ready which never happens
Well, tell me what happens, I'm curious now too

[modern trail]

haha i'll let you know then yea

oh wait, the cog's __init__ method can't return a coroutine, so I can't call that function at all

[sage tendon]

oh yea

im tired

[modern trail]

heh

[sage tendon]

honestly i just run the get_channel in every command i need it in, i never did it at cog level, so not sure what the best solution is for this

[modern trail]

yea I was originally just invoking it at the moment when I actually needed the channel, I've only changed it to being defined in the cog's init method because I figured if i could get away with just calling it once i might as well

but it's already cached, so i suppose it's not a big deal

[sage tendon]

yea maybe someone else knows the best way to do it at cog-level like this

[modern trail]

changed it back to invoking it when i need it and it works again, so you were definitely right about it not being cached yet. thanks for your help @sage tendon

[sage tendon]

np

[pastel goblet]

Does anyone know if its still possible to make command groups with a main command? So like
/command -> Does some thing
/command add-> Does something else
/command remove -> does something else

[sage tendon]

dont think thats possible or has ever been possible, no

[fresh sierra]

yep its not possible

[upper flint]

When someone creates a forum thread

Does pycord fire on_thread_create() event?

How can I differenciate between threads in a text channel and in a forum channel?

[shell radish]

check the parent channel type

[shell radish]

yes

[upper flint]

Thanks, will do

[umbral gazelle]

How to solve python int too large to convert to c int?

str(timedelta(seconds=round(track.length / 1000)))

[sage tendon]

what

[umbral gazelle]

what

[sage tendon]

well first of all i dont get the issue, and secondly, that is unrelated to pycord

[umbral gazelle]

1. Problem in input number
2. Haha, I forgot (srry)

[upper flint]

Int too large?
I remember on an exam we had a task to count how many digits greater than 10 there are in a number converted to base25 from this base10 expression:

4 * 625 ** 2024 + 3 * 25 ** 2023 - 2 * 5 ** 2022 + 10

And python somehow managed to calculate the answer head on 😅

[sage tendon]

Am I being dumb?
Why does message.author return the bot for a slash command invocation?

Okay it was message.interaction.user
But is there a way to get the member object and not just the user?

[sage tendon]

ctx.guild.get_member(message.interaction.user.id).display_name
my god. fixed

[errant trout]

interaction.user will be member in guilds

[sage tendon]

wasn't the case from my testing

because display_name didn't return my guild-nickname, just my global name

[errant trout]

idk always worked fine for me

does interaction.user.nick work

[sage tendon]

nah i changed it now, dw, im not touching that again :>
(i dont wanna break it)

[waxen ore]

what am i doing wrong that the options are not displaying on discord?

code:

@bot.command(description="Choose loop mode")
@option("mode", description="Choose mode", choices=["none", "song", "queue"], required=True)
async def loop(ctx, mode: str) -> None:

[sage tendon]

did you restart discord? also, required=True is not necessary

[waxen ore]

why not if it is required?

[sage tendon]

because thats the default

[lofty parcel]

required defaults to true

[waxen ore]

oh, okay, i will check it and let u know

still nothing

it's like option decorator doesnt work

should i change @bot.command to @bot.slash_command?

[sage tendon]

i think you can't typehint it in the function header if you use the option decorator

but not sure

[waxen ore]

hmmm, let me check

[waxen ore]

i did some tests and nothing changes at all

[sage tendon]

remove the typehint
restart discord
try again

[waxen ore]

i dont know if this example is outdated, but there is typehint
with option decorator https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/blob/master/examples/app_commands/slash_options.py

[sage tendon]

yea ok you probably have to use bot.slash_command then
i wasnt sure because i always use cogs

[waxen ore]

i did it

[waxen ore]

strange thing, because u guys literally use bot.command in the slash commands guide https://guide.pycord.dev/interactions/application-commands/slash-commands#syntax

[errant trout]

if you are using discord.Bot, then bot.command is valid

but otherwise slash_command

[waxen ore]

yes, i do

and it doesnt work anyway

lol

i will try to use slash_command and let u know

[lofty parcel]

Can you try typehinting discord.Option instead of the decorator

[sage tendon]

my only idea still is that you didnt restart discord (not your bot, like, discord on your pc)
because that looks like it should work

[waxen ore]

i've done it probably 20 times (i restarted the bot many times too), i added the command yesterday, but today I wanted to use it and saw that it doesn't work as it should, that's all

[waxen ore]

it works perfectly, thank you

[sage tendon]

thats very weird

i hate discord.Option ngl

[waxen ore]

yeah, option decorator looks so clean

but w/e, if it works dont touch it

btw bot.slash_command changes nothing

just fyi

[sage tendon]

where are you importing the decorator from

[waxen ore]

from discord import option

[sage tendon]

hm

i wanna know why it doesnt work for you lol

does it work in other commands?

[waxen ore]

i got one command that needs it

w8

i will create other one

[shell radish]

try removing the command, running the bot, then adding the command back

[sage tendon]

i was thinking it was the missing type parameter, but it should default to str, so idk

[waxen ore]

okay, to satisfy your curiosity, i created another command that uses the decorator and everything works correctly, so it's probably something with commands sync, because i think at the beginning this command didn't have a choice of options

[waxen ore]

so it should work

[sage tendon]

yea maybe

[waxen ore]

one more question, for some time now when i use any command it pops up for about half a second and then i get a response from my bot, it's not a big deal but it annoys me a bit, is it the fault of my bot or my discord?

[shell radish]

discord

[waxen ore]

any idea how to fix it? restart/relog doesn't work

do i need to reinstall?

[shell radish]

its just a bug that discord hasn't fixed yet because weekend or something

probably gonna be fixed on monday tbh

[waxen ore]

oh, okay, thank you for help 🙂

[weary meteor]

lets say i have a button which is attached to a message with an embed, how do i get the content of the embed, footer, title etc etc

[shell radish]

interaction.message.embeds[0]

[weary meteor]

ah okay, thank you

[weary meteor]

that throws out <discord.embeds.Embed object at 0x000001665039B910>

[shell radish]

yeah, surely, you know how to get the information from an Embed object, right?

[weary meteor]

ah yeah nvm im a little slow, im more than a couple beers in 😅

[shell radish]

code is best served when sober

[balmy flicker]

is create_thread a correct way to create post in a forum channel? it runs without any effect. no errors, no warnings.

[errant trout]

there's no message argument, you're looking for content https://docs.pycord.dev/en/master/api/models.html#discord.ForumChannel.create_thread

[balmy flicker]

https://guide.pycord.dev/popular-topics/threads#creating-thread-in-a-channel

[edgy nest]

thats a normal channel

not forum

[fresh sierra]

you need to use float, int are number between a certain range so

[fresh sierra]

how do you even get message for a slash command invocation since ctx.message return None

[sage tendon]

no, I get them as part of channel history for a certain purpose

[fresh sierra]

Ok

[quartz umbra]

Is it possible to edit a user's message?

[sage tendon]

No

[quartz umbra]

I've seen a bot that like imitates a user, like my name and profile but it says APP next to it

how does that work?

[sage tendon]

That's a webhook

[quartz umbra]

that's what a webhook is?

[sage tendon]

Webhooks can be used for a lot of things

[quartz umbra]

Hmm. Do you have any idea how I might approach adding something like this?

[sage tendon]

no idea

[quartz umbra]

alright thank you

is it true that code for discord.py has a chance at working with pycord?

[sage tendon]

less so every day

[quartz umbra]

i see

[sage tendon]

pycord is a discord.py fork, but everything since slash commands were added is different
discord.py does slash commands completely differently than pycord, for the worse because discord.py's version sucks

[lapis dock]

Most of the code inside your commands should still work for the most part (you might have to change a few lines relating to how you respond) as that is mostly just python

[quartz umbra]

I see. I do prefer py-cords version. Can I clarify something? I've just watched a youtube video and from my understanding, are webhooks just a way for someone to interact with a discord guild via POST HTTP requests?

[lapis dock]

That sounds about right

You can get started with them here

.rtfm Webhook

[sly karma]

190 total results

discord.Webhook
discord.Webhook.auth_token
discord.Webhook.avatar
discord.Webhook.channel
discord.Webhook.channel_id
discord.Webhook.created_at
discord.Webhook.delete
discord.Webhook.delete_message
discord.Webhook.edit
discord.Webhook.edit_message
discord.Webhook.fetch
discord.Webhook.fetch_message
discord.Webhook.from_state
discord.Webhook.from_url
discord.Webhook.guild
discord.Webhook.guild_id
discord.Webhook.id
discord.Webhook.is_authenticated
discord.Webhook.is_partial
discord.Webhook.name

[quartz umbra]

I see. Is it possible to create and delete webhooks entirely programatically if the bot has administrator commands?

[sage tendon]

yes

[quartz umbra]

Alright, so to my original problem of attempting to imitate a user, when i wanna send a response, does this pseudocode sound right? ```

• create new webhook with username as user and profile pic as user
• create coroutine that sends a POST request to this webhook url to send the actual response
• Delete webhook

By the way, do webhooks register immediately?

[sage tendon]

wdym immediately

[quartz umbra]

like you know how global slash commands can take upto an hour to register while when you set guild ids its essentially immediate? I wanted to know if this process occurs quick enough to be feasible.

And for final clarification (so sorry!), it is possible to create a webhook url in pycord only, right?

[little cobalt]

it takes like 10 seconds

[sage tendon]

Nah, slash commands never take that long

[quartz umbra]

should be fine...

[sage tendon]

slash commands are virtually instant

its just a dumb thing discord said when they were released

[quartz umbra]

oh i see.

[sage tendon]

it might take longer with HUGE bots but idk

[quartz umbra]

.

[sage tendon]

it might seem that they take longer because the discord client is slow as hell, thats why you always restart discord after adding / changing a command

[lapis dock]

It did used to take that long, they just made it better and there is less stress of bots switching over

[sage tendon]

wdym

[quartz umbra]

like a webhook is an interface where you can customize the username and profile picture, right? They each carry a URL. I understand you can create a webhook instance from a URL, but is it possible to create a brand new webhook with URL in a given channel in py-cord only? (and delete it)

[sage tendon]

i think i made a bot like 2 days after slash was added, and it took max 2 minutes or so lolw
but yea idk

[lapis dock]

TextChannel.create_webhook This is the shorcut way to do that

[quartz umbra]

thank you

I'm so rusty to discord bot dev, I haven't made one in like 2-3 years 😅

[lapis dock]

all good, we are happy to help

[quartz umbra]

🙂

[errant trout]

You only need to create the webhook once

Per channel

Every time you send on a webhook, you can do it with a custom name and profile picture

[sage tendon]

But that will affect old messages via the webhook too, no?

[errant trout]

No

When you create a webhook, the username and pfp are just default placeholders

Webhook.send includes username and avatar_url params

[sage tendon]

So if i send a message with a red pfp, and then a message with a blue pfp, and restart discord, both messages will still have their proper pfp?

[errant trout]

Yes

[sage tendon]

I guess I need to teach a certain bot dev about that then because they are KILLING my webhook section in my server

[errant trout]

If you've ever seen bots like tweetshift in action it might make more sense

[sage tendon]

doesn't that create a huge storage concern for discord though? i mean those pfps are essentially "undeletable"

[errant trout]

Eh

That's no different from any attachment on discord

[lapis dock]

sounds like a discord problem

[errant trout]

They're attached to the message itself

[sage tendon]

actually im dumb forget this

[errant trout]

This is all a single webhook

[sage tendon]

Does a deferred message just have None as its content?

[errant trout]

Idk if it counts as a message

[sage tendon]

I am almost certain it does, i had a few issues when a deferred message was put into the channel mesage history

[errant trout]

Well

Just defer -> print message content -> respond and see what happens

[fresh sierra]

You can’t really

[sage tendon]

how to get the ctx message again 💀 i hate how its not ctx.message

[fresh sierra]

ctx.messagz return None

[sage tendon]

ctx.response right

[fresh sierra]

Ctx.get original response

Ctx.message is user command so ctx.message can’t be the response of the bot

Cos bridge will break everything

[errant trout]

If you defer, can you right click > copy id

[fresh sierra]

Ifs its not invisible yes that true

I forgot that

[errant trout]

Then fetch it and see what happens

The problem with this concept is that intrinsically, first response does not return anything useful

Maybe get_original_response works idk

[fresh sierra]

This give the message object of the first response

[sage tendon]

Ok, a deferred message's content is an empty string

[errant trout]

There you go

[fresh sierra]

Does a defer invisible too ?

[sage tendon]

what

[fresh sierra]

Does a defer invisible =True is also considered as a message ?

[sage tendon]

invisible doesn't apply to application commands

[errant trout]

They mean ephemeral

Probably works

[sage tendon]

i doubt it'd be different

[quartz umbra]

Wait so then if I only have to make one webhook per channel, is there a way to see if there's an existing webhook for a channel so I don't have to store a dB?

Noting all the URLs?

Like, if there's no webhook on the current channel, create one, if not, use the existing one

[fresh sierra]

Nope I was thinking invisible but apparently it doesn’t exist so

[errant trout]

invisible DOES exist, but only for components

[fresh sierra]

You have an attribute webhook, guild.webhook

[errant trout]

it hides the "thinking" text

[fresh sierra]

Yep ik for component and I was thinking it was also working with command but since not my question was useless

[errant trout]

yes you can fetch webhooks https://docs.pycord.dev/en/master/api/models.html#discord.TextChannel.webhooks

oh no you were correct

guild.webhooks fetches every webhook in the guild

didn't consider that

then you can just filter by webhook.channel

[fresh sierra]

both can work

[quartz umbra]

Ah, and message.channel returns a TextChannel, right? So if len(TextChannel.webhooks) == 0, I create a new webhook?

[errant trout]

webhooks isn't an attribute; you have to fetch

so what i'd recommend is on startup you fetch all the webhooks you have, then you can check it using a basic filter