A Gang Of Silly Sillies! Progress and Feedback!

[cosmic matrix]

LMAO

wrong spelling but ye

XD

[wary night]

oooo alternate versions of vanilla effects, very exciting and interesting.

[cosmic matrix]

XD

[wet star]

I like this tribe already!

[rustic lotus]

These are very interesting, I'm excited to take a look on how they play

[inner pier]

isn't duke immortal?

or do they only gain it if they lost it?

[cosmic matrix]

The holy block only stays if any ally has Bone

if none exist, it just disappears

Duke does not count itself

[tender moth]

but doesn't Duke give every ally Bone every turn?

what is bone actually?

[cosmic matrix]

Ah no Duke gains Bone

she doesnt give bones

[tender moth]

ah, that wording is a tiny bit confusing

[cosmic matrix]

Basically just Teeth, but counts down when you get hit, like shell

but doesnt block damage

[tender moth]

so
teeth but when hit, you loose Bone equal to damage taken?
or Teeth but counts down by 1 when hit?

[cosmic matrix]

the first one

[tender moth]

ic

[trail flint]

bom but its counting down is such a mood thing to have

[fathom crypt]

I mean it's a bit different from bom I assume based on the wording

[red cave]

But the wording is the same as bom, besides the countdown part

[fathom crypt]

okay I was wondering if that was the case but remembered it differently

I also misremembered how bom worked I'm cooked

[trail flint]

it works the same, only difference is that it wouldnt count down

[cosmic matrix]

I might be getting ahead of myself, but i got excited XD

[wet star]

that looks amazing

[gritty lantern]

Holy 🔥

[rustic lotus]

Yo???

[cosmic matrix]

More :D

(these are not their counters, they counted down XD)

[rustic lotus]

tofi seems a bit strong but ig we'll see

these look nice tho

[cosmic matrix]

Companion boarder for ???’s allies :D

[inner pier]

Those companions look…how do I put it…silly! Just like some Silly Sillies!

[cosmic matrix]

Yippie! Mission accomplished

[rustic lotus]

looks nice

[twin geyser]

Ooooh, what’s that new effect

[fathom crypt]

Skeleton Appreciation Day in Vestal N.Y. (Bones) by Will Wood and the Tapeworms

[wet star]

@cosmic matrix it takes forever to load Sillies mod >_<

[wet star]

i thought she would hit all the units with Barrage and Bifurcated

_<

she's so funny lol

[fathom crypt]

Targeting modes override each other, like barrage, aimless, longshot, and hits all enemies

[wet star]

Can Barrage be crossed out?

[fathom crypt]

Well typically the game doesn't allow you to put conflicting effects on a card permanently

But mid-battle, yes

[wet star]

oh i guess that charm is from a different mod i have

maybe thats why

[fathom crypt]

Yea it's from charm collections by miya

it's not why tho lol

It's because miya forgot to make bifurcated be incompatible with other targeting modes

and also to make them override each other

[wet star]

ic

whoops killed myself with Automia >_<

Cea's transform animation is so cool

[twin geyser]

What happened to Cea in Goobers

[wet star]

im playing Sillies

[twin geyser]

Well yea, but Cea’s in Goobers too iirc, and Cea looks WAY different

[spark cosmos]

Oran berry item

[rustic lotus]

Different canon and context

[fathom crypt]

why no cold :(

[cosmic matrix]

huh why no cold indeed

[fathom crypt]

i did exit and re-enter but i only did so beacuse when i palyed it it didnt apply the overburn and so i assume there was no cold before that either

[cosmic matrix]

WhileActiveX acting weird I guess X0

[fathom crypt]

anyway i played cea

might be a bit of an outdated version if the mod was updated since the last time i played cuz i started the run last time i played but only played through the run today

but uhh anyway i think cea's deck is fine but ALL of her damaging weapons changing her state is kinda hard to play around because it always resets her counter and means you can't really combo early

noon's mirror is also just a glorified snowzooka :/

even if it DID work (i think the critical somehow messes with the overburn cuz i've had a few times where it DID have cold but didn't apply overburn (or haze but that's a chance thing so i dunno if it was a fluke or not))

1-2 overburn is not a whole lot when its on an item play - and both overburn and haze kinda dont make sense to pair with snow because
with overburn, you get the value from it by killing the enemy, which can be delayed but most of the time you shouldn't snow something you're directing your damage towards
with haze, well you really just want the enemy to attack as soon as possible to get value from it

also nuke without any damage increases is kiiiiiiiinda useless :/

and getting damage increases on it seems like a kind of lost cause too

since you can only play it once (most likely on the crown turn to minimize damage dealt to your team) and its starting damage is already pretty bad

honestly if it had even just 2 damage at base it would be better because then it at least gets combos in fight 1

using the item damage sun bell for it is also not ideal because then it messes with your healing/countdown item

but overall i did like playing Cea

i think the gimmick is neat even if controlling it/planning it ahead requires a lot of things to go right

and also bliss is awesome

in the same run i also got mifree and bakubom but bakubom didn't do much

mifree was fun to play around with my booshu

who ended up becoming a 2 counter 4 frenzy beast

flower pillars was also a neat gimmick but the payoff at the end was kinda underwhelming i think

if it was just "count down allies in row by 2" and had no consume i think it would be more fun

or count down allies in row by 3

basically just a better sun drum

counting up enemies is cool and all but id rather be able to count down my units more than once

the KRILL YOURSELF card is neat, i have no complaints about it

i also got Mega Bananas that run and i think it should either
A) have aimless instead of targetting a random ally
or
B) not be able to target allies that have no attack stat (the spice is not gained!!! we cannot waste food!!!)

[fathom crypt]

dream team

teeth diff

aw damn it i forgot krab wouldn't attack

no crowns this whole run btw

off-screen are dentures and noomlin biscuit

[cosmic matrix]

Alrighto! Feedback noted! thaaank you!

Also ???'s deck is currently being reworked :3

[fathom crypt]

Yeah makes sense, she's pretty strong

To be frank I like the deck I just think it can be toned down

[cosmic matrix]

Ye I'm not gonna change A LOT, just enough cause she's gonna get exclusive support cards in the next update.

like just replacing skele helmet with something else

and also turn all Teeth into Bone

[fathom crypt]

Harsh but fair

[twin geyser]

Say what

[sleek fjord]

:0

[cosmic matrix]

AAAAAA Im so happy! :D

[gritty lantern]

Sunny just unlocked new power 🔥

[cosmic matrix]

Ikyia's companion frame :D

[gritty lantern]

Is it me or the offset outline of Ikyia is a bit off?

[cosmic matrix]

Yeee some of the outline is a bit off, either I didnt have enough space for it, or I missed that spot for the mask XD

But it's barely noticeable unless you look at it closely :3

[gritty lantern]

Yea

It looks sick btw

[cosmic matrix]

Thaaank yoou!

[fathom crypt]

Agreed ^

This is awesome

[rustic lotus]

It looks so good

[twin geyser]

I need to play this mod eventually

[cosmic matrix]

Ikyia's item fraame XD

[cosmic matrix]

??? Item frames :D

[cosmic matrix]

Modified Mirsh's effect so she doesnt make herself explode XD

[rustic lotus]

you're going so hard w it

[cosmic matrix]

oh whoops a typo XD

[wary night]

Sunny how do you keep reinventing Wildfrost from the ground up
At this rate you might just make Wildfrost 2 lmao

[spark cosmos]

wow all those frames are so unique

Love em

[trail flint]

wait, does that mean that certain sub-faction companion are only going to appear seperately to their respective leader or do they just follow the companion frame

[trail flint]

straight up gonna called it as dlc at this point fr fr

[cosmic matrix]

separately to their respective leader

[cosmic matrix]

Almost done with ???'s card pool

few more items and the art of em :D

[rustic lotus]

Nice

[upper escarp]

What doesd this we

[cosmic matrix]

ah i have yet to update that, but it applies 3

of either spice, shell, increase attack , heal, or bom

[cosmic matrix]

bone and fracture application animations

[twin geyser]

What do Bone and Fracture do again

[cosmic matrix]

Bone - Teeth but it reduces equal to damage taken
Fracture - Bom, but counts down every turn

[red cave]

These animations look so good!

[twin geyser]

Oh

[twin geyser]

Agreed

[cosmic matrix]

Yippie!

||The bone sound is just a minecraft skeleton getting hit twice||

[wary night]

seeing the unique borders in-game feels so uncanny

[cosmic matrix]

lmao

[little violet]

Are their gonna be gold versions of these custom borders

[red cave]

What about chiseled?

[little violet]

Bone to cooler bone to fossilised bone

[cosmic matrix]

Chiseled and Gold versions would be coooool

Not super sure how it'd be set up thooo

[somber salmon]

CardFrameSetters always load a specific frame level, so the custom one you used would've specifically had to ignore it :v

[fathom crypt]

hey so if wideshot hits an enemy that's in the middle of the row (for example if the enemy infront of it was killed the same turn, but the front enemy of the other row wasn't) then it will hit the enemy on the opposite row of that one - even if there's another enemy infront of it

so like if there's enemies laid out like

O E O
E E O
where E is an enemy and O is an unoccupied space
and somebody with wideshot hits the enemy in the top row
it will skip over the first E in the bottom row

which doesn't match the description of the keyword

[cosmic matrix]

Ah, that is working as intended

Keywording is wrong then XP

Not super sure how to word it 🤔

[fathom crypt]

Also hits the unit on the opposite row of the target?

also i feel like pierce on a 2-tall unit should attack both the units behind the enemy

[fathom crypt]

this is a chuckle charm run but i honestly didnt need it, i saved it until the very end
kase's starting deck is pretty well-rounded, balatro is a funny card, garra rufa is a very strong countdown card, whale shark ritual is useful for stalling, ritual dagger is fun to use and is pretty strong (though you can also play it on item cards which seems unintended?), and the snow items being bad balances everything else out
but i feel like kase himself is very strong - a base 3 counter with 2 starting attack and a targeting mode that doubles his effective damage AND he starts with an item that can buff his damage. Sure, he's pretty fragile, but if you just take a pet that can tank damage (like sneezle or spike) that doesn't really come into play until bamboozle but since your snow item applies frost, bamboozle isn't an issue either.
This run i got moko charm early and kase just swept every single fight on his own until hogs where i needed zula to sac herself to not get warthog'd. But tbh you dont need specifically moko charm for him to go crazy - any way of buffing his damage would also do the same (i didn't get much for it except detispicer and a battle charm that i didnt use until the very end).
I think the issue lies within him having a 3 counter - his DPS is just too much and he almost always attacks before the enemies do. I think increasing his counter to 4 but increasing his health would make him more reasonable.

also for some reason i couldn't put gnome charm on any of the starting items? dunno what that was about

(also tbh most of the charms i put on with my chuckle charm weren't even that useful... i got blingsnail charm and pengu charm in the last shop)

also as much as balatro wants to be a meme item - its actually pretty useful if you spam it at the beginning of a fight right after spending all your money at a shop lol

cuz you cant go into debt

kase overall just seems to be the money guy tbh cuz he gets combos pretty easily too

[red cave]

Why does this card have both Blindshot and Hits a random target?

[cosmic matrix]

Oh, I accidentally put text on the effect XD

Deleting that now

[cosmic matrix]

Items left!

[rustic lotus]

boney bonez my beloved

[somber salmon]

sunnyyy

could you please add like 50px padding around the icons, its too silly that they literally cover up text xd

[fathom crypt]

Shit-ha my beloved

[twin geyser]

Puffypuk sounds like a slur

[cosmic matrix]

Oh lmao XD sure

[cosmic matrix]

at that point of the mod making process that I have to use addressables to load faster XD

[wet star]

Ive been delaying that for my mod too cuz i has no Unity installed. I wonder how much faster it would load!

Sillies took a while to load when I tried it. Idk how you test things being that slow to load ><

[cosmic matrix]

as a comparison, Goobers use to take 30 to 50 seconds to start, after the addressables it became 8-10 seconds

[wet star]

Ooo

[cosmic matrix]

also I have not learned my lesson XD

concerning GUID AHAHAH

[wet star]

It's a funny name though

[azure briar]

Make this small change in CardCustomFrameSetter and you should be good.

[cosmic matrix]

:000 Thaaank you :D I'll try it out!

[cosmic matrix]

after removing the skull helmet, I tried and ye this ??? either needs more healing items or shell items

in the pool

as well as start with a healing item or shell XD

[upper escarp]

I feel like you new more healing/shell items in general

[cosmic matrix]

Gonna update soon :D

??? reworked deck and unique pool :3

What to expect in the new update of the beta :3

??? new card pool containing

-17 new allies
-14 new items
-Somewhat reworked deck :3

Duke will not be included for now, cause they are unintentionally broken XD

if the effect worked as I expected honestly they wouldve been okay XP

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3433050909

It's been updated!!!

Also made some changes according to feedback :D
(I may have forgotten to add some but I'll add em next patch)

Next deck to work on, will be Cherra :D

[cosmic matrix]

OH SHOOT I DIDNT PUT PRICES ON THE NEW ITEMS XD

[wary night]

https://tenor.com/view/stupendium-spamton-stocks-going-down-gif-25716020

[sleek fjord]

Peak alert

[cosmic matrix]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3433050909

Buffed some items

and added prices!

[cosmic matrix]

Another thing I was thinking of...

Should I bring back special triggers... ? 🤔

Were they ever a good idea?

[little violet]

They were fun

Def added some replayability

[wary night]

probably the same amount with how I handled them for Special Delivery: nothing overboard, but definitely a few sprinkled in here and there for fun

[red cave]

If you do I wouldn’t have the card say “Special Trigger”. The effect is niche enough that it isn’t worth the text space (plus makes the Easter egg more hidden)

[upper escarp]

Boosh Took damage here he tiggered

(He have bone)

[cosmic matrix]

?

What was the scenario?

It just looks like the stinger had teeth or bone

[upper escarp]

Only my teammates had Bone he healed they one and then took damage randomly

[sleek fjord]

I'd like it

[cosmic matrix]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3433050909

Patched the problem where healers would get hit by Bone

Booshu is now viable

[timber oyster]

Is snowfall now a requirement? I got an error saying snowfall was being called somewhere.

[cosmic matrix]

Huh it shouldnt be

let me cheeck

While I try to find the cause, I think just having snowfall downloaded should make the mod work

no need to turn it on

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3433050909

fixed it

hopefully :3

[blazing night]

that's a new gif i havent seen before

[cosmic matrix]

Scaffy is hilariously op with barrage XP

debating if I should make a light nerf or a big nerf :3

[cosmic matrix]

I was watching my friend play Elden Ring and now my brain wants to add SUPER HARD MODE FIGHTS

[blazing night]

i cant wait to have to perform fifty dodgerolls

[trail flint]

8 ooba onslaught but make them have every debuff imaginable

type 8 if you guys agree

[tender moth]

8
(Obligatory "Nah, I'd win")

[cosmic matrix]

Might change the bone needles to apply to the ally in front, makes things more consistent

[inner pier]

I, infact, did not understand this card

[cosmic matrix]

oh no

[inner pier]

i thought it killed an ally when triggering

but now i know

[cosmic matrix]

Oh yeah taking a small break, need to focus on stuff :3

will be back later on to complete the other decks and pools!

[wet star]

Impossible, Sunny is taking a break from modding?!

[cosmic matrix]

Cea(friend I put in the mod X3) is cookin up frame art for her own cards XD
Cause she wanted to draw em herself XD

she goin wild X3

[tender moth]

prettyyy

[gritty lantern]

Tutel 🐢

[wary night]

holy

[cosmic matrix]

ikr!

[cosmic matrix]

also this is Cherra's boarder turned out yippie!

[rustic lotus]

damn, these are good

[last dust]

Shikanoko?

[last dust]

DAMN

[cosmic matrix]

Doodling, Aaaaa i wanna workon units smosmosmpms

[fathom crypt]

peak upon peak upon peak upon

[cosmic matrix]

Concept art ! card making will hopefully start again in a few weeks…

[gritty lantern]

Love the Bom Girl vibe :3

[wary night]

-# Sunny TCG/rougelike deckbuilder game when /hj

[cosmic matrix]

(If I knew how to code UnU)

[wary night]

mood

-# uh oh now I'm going to spend all afternoon thinking of physical card game ideas oh no what a shame

[red cave]

-# Not knowing code really just means you need to partner up with somebody who knows how to code

[cosmic matrix]

-# truuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

-# hard to fiind tho XP

[crisp island]

This is where the art tribe went then?

[crisp island]

that counts down?

[crisp island]

🚫 means can’t be counted down via items?

[upper escarp]

Nope the other way around

[cosmic matrix]

Yippie I can work on my mod again :D

[cosmic matrix]

Me thinks the Zips deck will not be there on releaaase

and will be added later on

[upper escarp]

How is this

[cosmic matrix]

Still got a lotta coding to do and art XP

[last dust]

cant wait

[wary night]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-patience-cat-cute-pets-gif-5544229

[cosmic matrix]

testing cards! this one is very silly lmao

[wild ivy]

It says "Gain", but does it gain Frenzy when it triggers, or is it a passive amount?

[cosmic matrix]

its passive

[red cave]

Maybe use "Has" instead of "Gain"

[wary night]

Or "Set to"

[cosmic matrix]

👍

[fathom crypt]

well objectively i think it would be "While active, gain"

and by "objectively" i mean using wording that already exists in the game (krono) but its not a big deal one way or another

[red cave]

Kronos says add not gain

[fathom crypt]

well krono applies it to other units not self

i mean add to self would also work

since we don't technically know the counterpart to add like we know the counterpart to apply

[red cave]

Another wording could be "While active, add x1 to allies with Team Up!"

[fathom crypt]

yeah that also works

[red cave]

That is the closest wording to existing cards

At least given so far

[fathom crypt]

yeah

[cosmic matrix]

Just tested the Cherra cards, and omg the parallel universe bom is way too good

Will rework the entire card pool for a funnier , balanced and silly gimmick XP

[red cave]

Were you testing parallel universe bom? Sounds broken, but fun.

[cosmic matrix]

It was a never ending turn XD

[cosmic matrix]

School stuff has super prolonged this project XP

and also recent stuff made me wanna rethink on stuff so I might change things

[upper escarp]

How’s this going?

[cosmic matrix]

School work and also me just doing other things XD

Hiatus moment

[cosmic matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/dudidam-mambo-matikane-tannhauser-vtuber-dance-gif-253137180940701003

Need to sort out a DISASTEROUS optimization issue

or else, this mod might just release in waves

and get rid of the randomness

[upper escarp]

I mean it is not that bad

(plus bugs are easier to fix that way)

[cosmic matrix]

trueee

[crisp island]

Probably both either way

[wet star]

Honse

[cosmic matrix]

Once I find out how I can duplicate a project, I can do the Volume/Parts idea

Found it

yippie!

[verbal temple]

oh great heavens
silly sillies news

[cosmic matrix]

XD

The plan rn is each Volume/Part will have 3 new leaders/tribes. The first volume will have Inkiya, ??? and Cherra.
I'm mainly doing this cause having WAAAY too many cards in one mod caused it for some computers to not start the game while opening the mod, and also the obnoxious start up times. So having them being separate will HOPEFULLY make it more stable XP

Also removing the silly sillies beta

Imma just wing it >:3 (Like in goobers lmao)
If cards end up too strong or too weak I can always nerf em or buff em later!

But of course keeping in mind this mod is supposed to be more balanced

[tender moth]

ew, balance /j

[inner pier]

yeah that will surely happen

either way im really excited for this

[verbal temple]

my computer appreciates this
enabling goobers/starting wildfrost with it on freezes it for like 30 seconds

[cosmic matrix]

Im lookin at the current card arts, some look dont look all that great xd

some cards will be getting some new art lmao

[cosmic matrix]

Since the direction has changed, the tribe selection is now more of a character select

[wary night]

how
How do you still have the sauce

What do I need to sacrifice to gain such power.

-# if its sanity i might be in trouble

[wet star]

Cherra looks mighty zesty with those bedroom eyes thingy

I..

[verbal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/cheems-bonk-doge-celestev69-gif-24399197

[cosmic matrix]

by taking a big rest XD

[wary night]

ooooh so you're saying sleep is a good thing and I shouldn't ignore my abstract sleep schedule.
-# who would have thought self-care is good

[cosmic matrix]

:D

[wary night]

https://tenor.com/view/score-judges-perfect10-10-perfect-gif-14466903

[inner pier]

woew crazy art

[crisp island]

Entire tribe vs specific characters possibly with variations of stats like snowfall has for the minibosses

[cosmic matrix]

Ye same leaders but different variations of skills will be implemented XP

[cosmic matrix]

One variation I thought of lmao

[crisp island]

Potential for self let’s go gambling

[cosmic matrix]

Made variations for ???

now working on Cherra's card pool!

[wet star]

Simply put, MORE FOR ME, SUNNY >:3

[sleek fjord]

[rustic lotus]

Didn't even notice you were back, these look insanely good

If you ever want to chat about the mod lmk(even tho I'm out of a pc and wouldn't be able to help out on the playtesting)

[cosmic matrix]

👍

[wary night]

Had the silly vision to call the first Silly Sillies "pack" the "Silly Sillies: Arts and Traps Collection" lol

[woeful dawn]

I am HYPED for this mod

[wet star]

I guess you could say, it's an ATOM of a mod

[woeful dawn]

-# i dont get it

HAHAHAH thats funny

nice one

[wet star]

Sorry, the joke was blatantly blank, Imma head back to Wildfrost modding to hide myself from society now

[woeful dawn]

💀💀💀

What mod are you working on gentleman

[oblique temple]

The leader design is cool :3

Oops now I’m realising this thread is super long and I replied right at the start xd

[cosmic matrix]

Almost done!

[wary night]

[woeful dawn]

Wdym 😱

R we getting a release soon

[inner pier]

yippee

[rustic lotus]

Oh?

[cosmic matrix]

yuup

just gotta test it a bunch and add charms

[rustic lotus]

Nice, I might get my pc back this month, if I do I'll try helping w the balancing

[cosmic matrix]

Ye! The launch will definetly be unbalanced XP
But at least not too unbalanced that it's a super free steamroll

[cosmic matrix]

charms!

[crisp island]

Why is everything s q u i s h e d

[cosmic matrix]

lmao idk

but during the run they look fiine

[little violet]

the ghost one is so cute

[cosmic matrix]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568703689

DONE!

There are still stuff to add but imma do that later XD

[inner pier]

bug

hmmmm

[cosmic matrix]

whoops

typo

[inner pier]

don't worry, i will discover many more typos

even though i'm bad at english

in?

[cosmic matrix]

yuup another typo xp

[inner pier]

i realized i'm playing on 22 bells

.....i'll be fine

[inner pier]

so ummm does uninkable cancel paint?

[cosmic matrix]

ye, it should at least

[inner pier]

evil messed up dori

[cosmic matrix]

lmao

Glass Cannon Charm

[inner pier]

does super fragile care about block?

[cosmic matrix]

if they get hit, they instantly die basically

[inner pier]

the description only mentions hp and scrap so i was curious

[crisp island]

Even with 0 cards?

Or just if damaged, die

[cosmic matrix]

Ye, I mentioned those cause those are the only stats that keep a unit alive. I could just make it say "When hit, instantly die"

[inner pier]

there MIGHT be some wierdness going on with burnage barrage

lemme look at the log

yeee

he just gets hit for no reason

turn isn't even over

[cosmic matrix]

oh no thats burnage damage

[inner pier]

isn't it supposed to trigger ON HIT?

[cosmic matrix]

Ye Lichi hit big foot while big foot had burnage, triggering burnage

[inner pier]

but he didnt have burnage

[cosmic matrix]

but it says that Ikyia did apply 2 burnage up there

[inner pier]

ah

i am very confused

[cosmic matrix]

LMAO

ye Burnage has a lot of text xp

I dont blame ya for being confused by it

[inner pier]

snowcake? i barely know cake

not even close (gotta say glass cannon charm is VERY strong with base attack)

the charms are wide in the overview menu

[cosmic matrix]

yeee

idk why XP

buut all that matters is that they look normal during the run

UwU

[cosmic matrix]

(Got it!)

[inner pier]

so far it seems no companions are exceptionally strong

what i'd really love to see is leader stat randomization

(or just more leader variations)

for reference: in the base game there's around 30 different leaders for each clan

just something i like about the base game

sometimes some leaders are good, sometimes others

[cosmic matrix]

Ye I plan to have more variations, but starting with 5 for each I think was an okay start

[inner pier]

i am mainly talking about the stats (though more variations are also very good)

[cosmic matrix]

randomized stats(hp,atk, and counter) could be funny if it was randomized

[inner pier]

i mean randomized from a possible range

this thingy

[cosmic matrix]

oooh i seeeee

[inner pier]

for example 5 turn beepop is very good but 6 turn.....same for the barrage leaders and pretty much everyone

[cosmic matrix]

I'll see if I can get it to wooork

[inner pier]

yay :3

[cosmic matrix]

cause ye this would be very cool

[cosmic matrix]

Aprecia is currently not working, fixing noow

[tender moth]

couple things while I'm in my first run.
1- this starting deck is kinda insane.
2- Mega Bananas is able to target Clunkers without an attack stat, probably shouldn't be able to do that (image 2 has a non-attacking clunker placed, image 3 doesn't, it only targets twice in image 2 so one of them hit the clunker)

no x on the on kill effect

[inner pier]

I’d rather say sunbrush is insane (paint is also pretty good but locking it behind a chest seems stupid)

[tender moth]

Snowball is basically SM's snow item, which is the best snow item of the base 3 tribes.
2 ways to count down a unit's counter.
one of them is also half a pinkberry juice.
the other applies ink, which paired with the natural Paint colours on some units, or the Illustration card, the ink is an upside that can be providing snow, shell, spice or shroom.
Ink bottle allows for triggering Ink effects or shutting enemy effects down, all the inkbrushes allow for enemy effect shut down.
and a clunker to block a hit.

Aimless and Barrage on enemies will never be a problem with this deck

and once you're rid of Illustration and the clunker, you have a 7 card deck full of effect suppression and ways to trigger paint effects for upsides

[inner pier]

Snowball isn’t that strong, it’s basically a blizzard bottle

[tender moth]

yes, and blizzard bottle is good

[inner pier]

Solution: just add 5 tar blades to the deck

Balance

From what I’ve first seen the deck is kind of mandatory for using the companions

BUT

It would be (probably) a good idea to put some cards in chests

[tender moth]

currently using ??? right now :3

[inner pier]

Many of inkyia specific cards don’t really have synergy with the clan (for example backpack like why would you need draw)

So I’d add more ink/possibly paint cards to the chests and nerf the starting items (maybe add 1 damage to brush and ink bottle just like totoo and decrease the effects/remove the snow card)

[tender moth]

:3
-# this card having hp is odd

[inner pier]

I have to say I really love the concept of eraser

Very fun, especially with the various ways to get your units full of bom

[tender moth]

this is what won me the ??? run lmao

Nova moment

[cosmic matrix]

Just read everything

alrighty!

Imma rework Ink Brush

To "Apply 1 Ink to ally ahead"

which gives the benefits of paint effects but removes the ability to have 3 cards that disables enemies

[cosmic matrix]

Though I would need to nerf Trigger Paint Ikyia XD

or remove that version

[cosmic matrix]

Imma release this update very very soon,
-Leaders will have ranged Randomized stats
-MegaBanana will not target units without health
-Face paint charm cant go on clunkers XD
-Brush rework
-Trigger paint inkyia changed to brown paint
-Fixed weird things happening with Hidden/Elusive
-Some typo fixes

[inner pier]

Nooooooo

[cosmic matrix]

UPDATE APPLIED!

[inner pier]

i want back my trigger paint (i think making her backline is a good compromise though it still doesn't seem that strong even with the new brush)

[cosmic matrix]

nah didnt remove it

i just reduced her attack to have a range from 1-2 and gave her less HP

if it's underpowered I can increase it from 2-3

[tender moth]

what does Double keyword attack even mean on Glass cannon?

so like Fury 4 gives 8 damage?

[cosmic matrix]

its just double

i didnt put a = inbetween it

whoops

[tender moth]

ahh

so + 2 attack, then double the attack

[cosmic matrix]

yee

[tender moth]

I'm also assuming Block still works with glass cannon?

[cosmic matrix]

nope

get hit it dies

[tender moth]

should probably mention Block and Shell in the effect then along with health and scrap

[cosmic matrix]

i should change the super fragile description

to just "When hit, destroy this card"

[tender moth]

what if you deal 0?

[cosmic matrix]

nope still counts

[tender moth]

dang, that's super fragile

[cosmic matrix]

it just needs to be a hit

as long as it doesnt count as a hit, you'll be okaay

[crisp island]

Durian removes effects for bug damage, anything that removes the altogether?

Anti-durain that makes stuff not “hit”?

[tender moth]

WAIT WHY DOES THIS HAVE ATTACK???

[cosmic matrix]

Another whoops XD

for now Imma not change it doesnt have a counter so it should be fine to leave for now until I fix more major stuff

unless there's a card that targets something at random that gives attack

[tender moth]

I call this build...
"Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make"

Unfortunately the silly friends went to below 5 hp, so I could split them and steal their frenzy for my leader

[inner pier]

sunny is there a sheet for the leader stats?

[cosmic matrix]

Nope

[inner pier]

ok i'll just look at it myself then....oh wait i'm too stupid for that (i don't know anything about wildfrost coding yet)

it's not that important anyways (i was just curious)

[tender moth]

-# I can get them :3

In a moment, making food rn

[inner pier]

oh i should too

european timezone yay

[inner pier]

all (or at least most) of the chances are missing a space

and i dont think the passive starting card is supposed to have attack

[tender moth]

okay, I'm going through these stat variations and some of these are QUESTIONABLE

[cosmic matrix]

Yuuup

[inner pier]

this is why i wanted to see them

[cosmic matrix]

made sure most where goofy XD

[tender moth]

why can this one get such insane stats?

what is this spread

varies between "destroyer of worlds" and "is here for the effect alone"

15 damage on a 4 counter being a roll that exists is crazy

[inner pier]

0 to 1 would make sense

[cosmic matrix]

true true

I think i was too excited to play with random stats that I went whacky with it

[inner pier]

btw pierce is a bit wierd with smackback and aimless

[inner pier]

is this price intended?

[tender moth]

here's all of them :3

6 of each, and an extra 7th Ikyia

Ikyia have a good counter challenge /j

shoutouts to Block on Kill Cherra for potentially rolling 8 damage with a 3 counter

[inner pier]

my thoughts on the stats of ??? (i'll go over the other ones later)

3x 5 on a 4 timer

is no more

[cosmic matrix]

I most likely at the time, I think I over valued it since being able to choose who to reduce your counter was always pretty dang good

with the only draw back is you give it to a random enemy, which you could just snow. But mayhaps i could reduce the price

[inner pier]

I actually think that price is ok (if it can only show up in shops)

It’s pretty good

Except when frost gang

[cosmic matrix]

ye

[inner pier]

And you can make some interesting infinites with the counter reduce thingy

I almost got to do it but I was pooor

[cosmic matrix]

XD

[cosmic matrix]

when I get home I shall rebalance all the random ranges

and update it UwU

[inner pier]

uwu

[upper escarp]

Triggers on any ink applied

oh nvm

[inner pier]

?

Any ink?

Ink but it’s 2?

[cosmic matrix]

Yippie!

[tender moth]

Patch notes: Fixed Art Block

[woeful dawn]

NO WAY, ITS OUT, LETS GO CHAAAT

[woeful dawn]

No custom enemies 😮‍💨?

Thats fine

[inner pier]

It’s SUPPOSED to be balanced around the base game

(Unlike goobers)

[cosmic matrix]

Had a silly idea where there’s one tribe thats just a mash up of all three character’s card pool

[inner pier]

Wait I also had that idea

I saw it in a delusion

[cosmic matrix]

It’d be really easy to just make XD

And honestly sounds so funny

[inner pier]

New ??? Idea:
Apply ?
Apply ?
Count down by ?

Starts with teeth and/or bones

? because I don’t know the number yet but you could also just hide it when picking the leader

[cosmic matrix]

Oooo I remember I had that same intention with the card in goobers called “Forced Attack orders” where it’d be advantageous to make them hit you or waste a turn.

I really like that

[inner pier]

Btw I kinda feel like the clan specific cards have too little to do with the clan

Maybe I just didn’t see all of them

But for ikyia especially there’s not much ink

There’s 2 or something companions applying ink to your team and then there’s random tinkerson on steroids

[tender moth]

wait, hang on, unplayable patch.
spelt Ikyia wrong, smh

[inner pier]

In all this balance talking I forgot to say this mod is great
-# voyix back to wildfrost is crazy

[tender moth]

oh wait all the leaders got different stat distributions...
I'm going to need to update that spreadsheet :p

[cosmic matrix]

Ye I could definitely add more cards that supports Ikyia's deck, Just thought that a TOO much ink application would make it very easy to spam ink on the enemies

[tender moth]

I feel like this should be "gains" instead of "applies", since it's talking about the ally ahead

mmm, damage

also this should probably have a reaction to indicate a trigger

[inner pier]

makes sense (but i want companions with red paint or something so you can do some more ink stuff besides ikyia)

[cosmic matrix]

( 👍)

[inner pier]

so apparently scotch trigger every time he reaches a multiple of 8 spice (which is good because pepper flag exists)

[cosmic matrix]

Good thing spice flag is not in the bone tribe :3

unless gnome

[runic radish]

gnom

[inner pier]

MEGA BANANAS CANT TARGET CLONKERS

[cosmic matrix]

OH

out of all things to have the most issues, its Mega Banana

[inner pier]

IT TARGETED MY HEARTMIST STATION

i got no spice : (

[cosmic matrix]

omg okay i found out the issue

Launching the patch for this now

its now fixed X3

[inner pier]

the traces of 1 evil banana

[cosmic matrix]

lmao

time for the biggest task

adding greeting dialogue for every card

beside's ikyia's cause i did her cards in advance

[cosmic matrix]

Once I'm done putting all these

imma add the 3 characters in 1 mode

[cosmic matrix]

Added all the greetings! :3

[inner pier]

How can someone actually finish their projects in a reasonable amount of time?

[cosmic matrix]

idk XP

anyways time to make CHAOS MODE! (3 tribes in one)

oh gosh lmao

[uncut holly]

I love the comment that says //The

[cosmic matrix]

LMAO LEAK!!!

those are leftover sprites for another leader

[inner pier]

i was too stupid to open the code

[cosmic matrix]

its basically hit everything

[inner pier]

uhuh

nova

[cosmic matrix]

yuuup

I didnt make the card frame for that one :3

A friend wanted to do it X3

[inner pier]

umm so how do you open a dll file with vsc it keeps telling me "what editor do you wanna use"

[cosmic matrix]

i dont know :c

[inner pier]

what

i just want to look at the stupid leaders

[cosmic matrix]

ive never opened a dll XD

[inner pier]

i dont know how to open the mod file

i dont even know if it's the right one

[crisp island]

Ink, bone and cherries

[cosmic matrix]

LMAO

The starter deck lookin goofy af

[inner pier]

wait it is still 0-4 attack?????

[tender moth]

I'll check

[cosmic matrix]

huh did I mayhaps forget to change that one?

[tender moth]

also are you looking at the code to find the stats?

[inner pier]

yeah i did it

somehow

[inner pier]

it was 0-5 before

[tender moth]

that's...a choice

[inner pier]

it only took me 30 seconds to find
-# after actually figuring out how to open the stupid file

[tender moth]

I just use unity explorer mod

[inner pier]

i have NO clue what that is

[tender moth]

lets you poke around the game's data

[cosmic matrix]

OOH i applied the balance to the wrong version XD

[inner pier]

i just look at the mod file and go ctrl t

hihi

these sure are some sillies

[cosmic matrix]

Aight its at 0-1 now

also imma release 3 character mode along with it >;3

[inner pier]

funny how this is base 1 effects even though it could've just been 2

[tender moth]

yep

there's multiple spots with that happening :D

-# it was a minor inconvenience when noting all the stats

[cosmic matrix]

NEW MODE ADDED XD

[tender moth]

guess I'm playing Cherra

[inner pier]

don't be silly

[tender moth]

I had to double check out of concern (idc about the winstreak), you can get different leaders luckily :D

it didn't break

ALSO WAIT, ILLUSTRATION BUFFED TO HAVE ZOOMLIN

[cosmic matrix]

for this clan specifically cause without illustration most units will struggle with the ink XD

or should I make that a normal thing?

[tender moth]

pretty good combo

[inner pier]

this should be it

oh wait cherry

[tender moth]

Question, is the Double damage from Glass cannon a continous effect, or a one time doubling

so if I have 5 attack and use it, I'll go to 14. if i then use Moko, would I go to 12 or 13?

nvm, found out.
it's continuous :3
so I went down by 2 when putting on Moko

lmao got bonecat's and bottom drew the ink so I died :)

[inner pier]

these stats all look ok

except cherras counter

4 or 8 is a BIG difference

[cosmic matrix]

sometimes fast sometimes very slow UwU

[inner pier]

ok i gueess i'll let that that pass

only this once tho

[cosmic matrix]

yippie!

[tender moth]

mmm, Shell ;3

[inner pier]

This gives me an idea…. (Red paint scotch might go crazy I think)

[tender moth]

thank you jimbo

annoying that my leader CAN'T USE THIS

any leader that didn't apply Ink and I'd be so free of a win

[inner pier]

Just ink the le….oh wait they thought of that as well

[tender moth]

I think I broke something?

Krunker has Trash 1 but...is giving me blue paints

I don't need all this blue

[cosmic matrix]

uh ooh

[tender moth]

:|

that's not a Junk

also, i had to test it.
this card is now comedy :)

2 counter do nothing

[cosmic matrix]

launching a fix for that now XP

[verbal temple]

super cool mod, I've been getting skill issue'd but it's fun!
although trying to load both Goobers and Sillies at once crashed my game (is probably a computer issue on my end but just in case)

[tender moth]

also isn't a great idea to use both at once :3

since Sillies are balanced around vanilla fights, not the goobers fights

[verbal temple]

oh right just having goobers enabled overrides with their fights

I literally just wanted the little Speed pet and nothing else from Goobers
because it's a fun effect

[cosmic matrix]

I ccan bring him over :3

I like that lil guy too

though he'll not have the Goober's zap XD

cause that was op

[verbal temple]

one of my skill issues was forgetting that I don't have him and getting Dori killed because he didn't trigger first

[cosmic matrix]

oof

[tender moth]

poor dori

[verbal temple]

jolted is just such a funky effect
more value the more the enemy triggers

[cosmic matrix]

yuup

[verbal temple]

man I had such a good run going with Teeth/Bones and a lot of healing
forgot that Teeth just doesn't work into Frost Guardian's first phase (I did NOT have the max hp for that man)

[woeful dawn]

I see...

Hvent gotten time to try it yet but from these screenshots, the art looks awesome

[tender moth]

peak gameplay
(stalling for money)

119 leaving fight 1 lmao

uhhhh

[cosmic matrix]

Oh daang nabbit

aight fixed the card keyword XP

[tender moth]

I love bob

also just seems like a good card

[cosmic matrix]

😭

bery funny

[inner pier]

that's somehow the exact same banana i had (lumin critical + cake bell)

[cosmic matrix]

Mega Banana is actually really strong XD either I make them a consume or reduce the count uses

[inner pier]

just reduce the uses

[tender moth]

just leave them on the table for a while so they go off a bit :3

[inner pier]

Today I realized I didn’t actually understand smackback war

I thought it only applied smackback to enemy units

I think the card could use a little rephrasing

[twin geyser]

It’s pretty easy to understand once you use it

[inner pier]

If you just never pick it because it seems bad….

Once you use it you know what it does but I would like to know that BEFORE I use it

[inner pier]

sunny did you make extended ui mandatory?

[cosmic matrix]

Yup

is there any side effects that maay occur?

[inner pier]

no, it's a good idea

i was just wondering if i enabled that myself

please mixy paint stop boming yourself

I ended fight 1 on 7 bom!

what does this mean?

HUH????

what

ikyia what did you do?

HUH

btw the mixy paint still has a typo

Pierce only works on the bottom row even with 2 high bosses

well actually pierce sometimes only hits the top row and sometimes only the bottom row

[cosmic matrix]

its allies WITH bone

[cosmic matrix]

it was not a typo actually, its wildfrost having a hard time putting the word "Restore" that they sliced it in half

[inner pier]

ahhh

mixy paint is really wierd

i almost died to jab joats because it's way too much bom

but it's not the same for the entire row

[cosmic matrix]

yup

as intended UwU

[inner pier]

wooly dreck smackback but he forgot he can eat

why does WTF

WHY DOES HE APPLY SNOW AND INK TO AN ALLY THAT ISNT EVEN IN HIS ROW AND THEN GETS EATEN BY HIM

[cosmic matrix]

whats goin on with Genga? XD

[inner pier]

i just inked him

and then ahhhhhh

GENGAR RECOVERED FROM INJURIES EVEN THOUGHT THEY DIED

huh

[cosmic matrix]

LMAO

[inner pier]

wait stapler increases the ENEMIES attack?

[cosmic matrix]

Its supposed to be used on yourself XD

[inner pier]

gengar op? trash charm

oooooo another bug

[cosmic matrix]

as for pierrce

yeah no idea how to fix that :c

[inner pier]

WHAT

HES ALREADY DEAD

[cosmic matrix]

LMAO

[inner pier]

yummy hp

WHAT

base 5 + 4 fury = 7

uhuh

makes sense

[cosmic matrix]

ice forge XD

[inner pier]

ahhh

look at this hp tho

count down by 18

reduce counter doesn't double trigger

basically the entire reason i lost this

reduce counter double triggers AS LONG AS IT ISNT 1 COUNTER

i have been majorly scammed

also i hate mixy paint now

20 hp and dies in 2 hits

you HAVE to play around them or else you just die in vanquish basically

[cosmic matrix]

I have ideas of adding 4-6 new item cards that seek to support their respective character more

[inner pier]

Eraser 2.0

[cosmic matrix]

IKYIA

Card 1
Barrage
Apply 4 , can only be played on your side of the board

Card 2
Apply 6 to all allies with a paint trait Consume

Card 3
Apply 16 , Reduce health by 2 Consume

Card 4
4ATK
Berry Blade but applies equal

Card 5
Apply (Inspiration) (Inspiration: Apply 1 to self when anyone attacks)

Card 6
3ATK
Apply 2 Ink

???

Card 1
Convert Bones into Shell

Card 2
Convert Shell into Bones

Card 3
Sacrifice ally, apply Fracture equal to half of unit's HP, to all enemies

Card 4 3USES
Gain 1 Bone Needle with Zoomlin/Consume
Increase own effects by 1

Card 5
When drawn , apply 3 bone to a random ally

[inner pier]

I think ikyia also needs one more cleanse card

[cosmic matrix]

I think I can let her deck start with the eraser

[inner pier]

I think I would combine card 1 and 2

Switch effects on use

[inner pier]

Card 4 should probably only increase effects by 1 (with lumin and possibly frenzy it can get out of hand real quick I think)

[cosmic matrix]

CHERRA

Card 1

Count up enemies in the row by 2
Apply 2 Bom to a randome ally

Card 2
Reduce counter by 1, then increase counter of a random ally by 1(This can have a chance to apply to the targetted card again)

Card 3
Apply 5 Energy Jam to enemies Consume

Card 4
2ATK
Count down random ally equal to target's ejam

[cosmic matrix]

oh yeah true

[inner pier]

Card 3 go nutshellcake

[cosmic matrix]

yuup xd

[inner pier]

Start with the brown paint leader and then just get + 28 effective hp

[cosmic matrix]

Hmmm shoould it be less?

or the amount of ink applied is fine XD

[inner pier]

Naaaa it‘s ok

[cosmic matrix]

I guess with lumin it would go wild

[cosmic matrix]

ah i see, well we'll see when it'll get released XD

[inner pier]

Compared to giant ink bottle it’s not op (giant ink bottle is op too but hmmmm)

It‘s best with brown/red/maybe green paint

Otherwise it’s balanced

[cosmic matrix]

That'll be reaal hard to do XP

[cosmic matrix]

Yippie! aight!

time to code them in!

[inner pier]

Just make it consume and add the other card to hand

Since charms aren’t useful on the card anyway

[cosmic matrix]

I guess ye

[cosmic matrix]

Also I was thinking of changing Inky's effect, instead of trigger against anything that is hit with ink, to when anything is ink'd trigger self

[cosmic matrix]

Also illustration feels a lot better to use if it had Zoomlin

So I may just make that the default

[inner pier]

Ye, especially when you don’t have 5 blue paint from a random trash charm

[cosmic matrix]

lmao

That'll be fixed soon biubneoide

[tender moth]

that's what you said last time /j

[cosmic matrix]

ye but I got it wrong 😔

okay launching fix, I tested it shoould work

[inner pier]

Rib heart buff?

[cosmic matrix]

it no longer does 5 damage

now 2

Less scary to use

[inner pier]

With the restore hp it didn’t do any damage to begin with tho

But yeah 2 is better

Now just make it also apply 5 shell

And barrage

And remove the bones part

[cosmic matrix]

Ye but I want other bone units to take advantage of it too :3 not just ???

[cosmic matrix]

lmao truue

[cosmic matrix]

I GOT IT TO WORK!

its the most jank azz method but it works

like lmao

[red cave]

Why does it also convert shell to bones?

[crisp island]

Shellstones

[cosmic matrix]

So you can swap bone and shell for one another :3

[inner pier]

Swipswap code yay

I have no clue what’s going on but it looks cool

[twin geyser]

Oh hey this is really cool
Doesn’t ??? have that one path that heals ‘em whenever they’re applied with bone? If you put Frenzy charm on this card you could get some killer healing

There’s the ally with flourish too. Put a bit of bone on ???, position that one ally behind ‘em, play this card on ??? with said Frenzy charm and then get a ally with like 200 hp who gains half of that as Bone

[cosmic matrix]

yuuuup

[cosmic matrix]

I think imma give some units some Health and Counter buffs

especially leaders XD

[tender moth]

-# good

-# half of these feel like glass with the low rolls :3

[cosmic matrix]

yee XD

[tender moth]

mmm I love 5 health on half my options

[cosmic matrix]

Lmao

and also changing Inky so it only triggers instead of being ink puff ball

[inner pier]

i just saw 2hp 2attack 13counter very scary

[cosmic matrix]

yeah XD

[inner pier]

Wait is it possible for blood bell to make you go to 0 hp

Oh that was already possible before

But you can now KILL YOUR PET

Crazy tech

Though does it actually work

I will have to try

[verbal temple]

my leader staring down 2 damage (that's almost half of their health)

[red cave]

I guess I’m complaining more about the wording than what it actually does. “Convert Bones to Shell” does not read to me as it would also convert Shells to Bone

[cosmic matrix]

oh no that was the old version

I changed the text XP

[inner pier]

The best defense is …..doffense?????

[cosmic matrix]

UPDATE OUT :D

Hopefully this will make the mod less unforgiving in terms of survivability as well as better offensive options

If I overdid it, please let me know who to nerf XP

me ready with the nerf hammer

[verbal temple]

time to only run Speed cat forevermore

[verbal temple]

I'm sure there's a way to make this go infinite

[cosmic matrix]

two dinnas

Both have Inspiration XD

[verbal temple]

alternatively
Yellow Ikyia and Inky

wait no that wouldn't work because counter doesn't reset until after the effects are done resolving

actually an important thing to note
Inspiration seems to be activating on Item use as well as attacks

[cosmic matrix]

Oof

[verbal temple]

delightful
I love destroying order of operations five different times in a turn

this would not have been possible without Inky Ritual Necklace and Lumin'd Ikyia's Motivation
honorable mentions to Dori and Lichi, who sat on the bench as panic blockers in case I mathed wrong

[inner pier]

This card is just mimik but 20 times better

Might not be too balanced

[cosmic matrix]

It do be very card dependent tho, so I think it should be somewhat fiine?

[inner pier]

Kindaaaa

I guess it’s ok

BOB is also strong but we love bob

[cosmic matrix]

ye

I think each clan can have their one strong unit

[inner pier]

The deal damage equal to attack might be a biiit too strong tho

(Item use thingy)

[tender moth]

bob

[cosmic matrix]

Remos?

[inner pier]

Yeah

[cosmic matrix]

I see I seee

[inner pier]

It‘s basically lumin fireworks at base

[cosmic matrix]

I could change it to be more in themed with ink, like
"When item is used, gain equal to damage dealt, or a fixed amount of "

[inner pier]

Or just make it a stronger version of inky starting clunker (I forget all the names)

Without the risk of teeth

[cosmic matrix]

ah so basically if enemy is inked, do damage to them + no contact

[inner pier]

Mhm

Then you can definitely justify the high base damage

Or 2x ink damage

3x maybe

Kabumm 9 ink = muchos damage

Yeah I think that’d be best

Making it contact is probably a good idea then

Thoughts?

[cosmic matrix]

That woould be coool

ye I'll rework Remos

[inner pier]

happy krab

[inner pier]

some change suggestions
also most graffiti cards seem pretty bad, especially because the rightmost card in hand is completely useless most of the time

and graffiti charm should also go down to 5 graffiti or something (many hots fights take only 10 turns total so that should be a good reference point)

[inner pier]

Oh and I also think grindstone charm should maybe be +1 (raspberry charm treats attack and hp as a 3/1 and strawberry charm is already pretty solid)

[cosmic matrix]

I could add a x2

to his attack when this effect triggers :3

This is the closest we can get to ink = attack

[uncut holly]

pardon if I'm missing something but is this not just a more complicated version of kabonker's effect but for ink

[cosmic matrix]

Kabonker makes contact and triggers, this just applies the damage on application

so its safer X3

[uncut holly]

ah fair I assumed this would count as a hit for some reason

[tender moth]

Only 1000 hp, mid tier at best

[cosmic matrix]

lmao

wait I might be able to get the original idea to work

I got it to work!

nvm its acting funky

[inner pier]

time to get funky remos tonight

[cosmic matrix]

as in he goes back to attacking allies

XD\

[inner pier]

let him attack allies

[cosmic matrix]

even those with the paint trait

[inner pier]

EVIL remos

[cosmic matrix]

LMAO\

[inner pier]

this could be fun to play around

try not to die to hidden gimmick

[cosmic matrix]

This is the only way to make Remos not bug out XD

[inner pier]

ok ummm idk then you can make it 3x (if that doesn't cause any problems)

2x is ok too but ummmm i want strongg

[cosmic matrix]

would'nt that be overkill? and super broken?

[inner pier]

you need to waste 3 crowns to oneshot ONE of frostgang

9x3x2

still kinda balanced

that's half of crushers hp

but if you want to you can leave it at 2x

i guess it's fine

ahhh wait

CURRENT INK

[cosmic matrix]

ye

[inner pier]

then i think it's ok

[inner pier]

ummm thoughts on this?

[cosmic matrix]

oh ye, so turn it to left most?

and in terms of the leader sheet, I'll look through the adjustment suggestions

[inner pier]

no i just meant like nerfing the graffiti/buffing the units and cards in some way, you can't really control what cards lands where in your hand, a +1 on a snow card can be really nice but that's it (honestly i really like the simple cherra +1 concept with no drawback)

[cosmic matrix]

Ahh I seeee

I could make them spawn a card that makes you choose which card to upgrade, with noomlin

[inner pier]

That’d be fun

No lumin tho

[cosmic matrix]

ye

[inner pier]

Wait

[cosmic matrix]

you'd lumin the upgrader card

[inner pier]

You can just increase the amount of cards gained

[cosmic matrix]

ye

[inner pier]

This remembers me of when I crashed the game with scryia

[cosmic matrix]

Also after this balance change I shall work on Volume 2 >:3

but still deciding who the 3 "clans" will be

so technically it'll start later on

[inner pier]

One of them has got to be the evil [redacted name] tornado thingy

[rustic lotus]

Wouldn't "Swap bones and shell" be better wording

[cosmic matrix]

New reworked cards out >:3

👍

[sleek fjord]

[median prawn]

So I don't know if I'm missing something, but I'm a little confused with Remos

Are you meant to hit the enemy with ink twice for his effect to work?

[cosmic matrix]

Ye, the enemy needs to have ink first

[median prawn]

Oh ookay

I wasn't sure if there was an issue or if I just misunderstood the card

Makes sense

The 32 damage nuke with just a cake sounded a little too strong

[cosmic matrix]

Lmao

You can do that XD it just needs an extra step

[median prawn]

Yea it's still like, doable, just not as free

[cosmic matrix]

yee

[inner pier]

balanced you might say

[cosmic matrix]

releases an apply 100 ink item

[inner pier]

the rest of frostgang going like don't care

[inner pier]

Seems like you can’t charm some of the starting items (or at least apply gnome charm to them)

[runic radish]

gnom

[cosmic matrix]

That one im not even sure why

I’ll check maybe there’s something about gnome charm I accidentally changed