Weird Route w/ alternate Act 3

[slender crane]

This isn’t a specific request for a specific idea. It’s more so that I would like to gage the limits of what I’m able to do with modding stuff.

Sooooooo I have a lifeblood centered AU/idea that functions like a Weird Route, with its own set of endings, and a specific way of triggering it. I always have loved creepypasta inspired hacks/mods, and a mod that Fucks Everything Up would hit that desire of mine to… well… fuck everything up.

My questions:

• Can you make alternate act 3s that trigger on certain conditions? How would you even do that?
• Can dying with certain conditions fulfilled be an event flag to progress the story?
• Can you cause the gamemode to change mid story?
• Is it simpler to just make a custom level in the Architect mod and see what people have made there?
• Generally -any advice that is relevant to this idea of making a fucked up weird route?
  Thank you

I left the context vague because when I think of a deltarune inspired weird route I think of the Twisted Child ending and the weird amount of root lore in the game, and I thought other modders of other storylines would have similar questions to me. But this is actually a specific story idea I have been drawing a lot of art of that I realized would genuinely function as a weird route

[slender crane]

Context for my storyline idea:

• The basic concept is that the weird route storyline begins with Hornet’s tragic death, and then her worse reanimation at the hands of Lifeblood. You still play as her, but she’s severely scrambled by her current state and the canon story has gone completely off the rails.
• The storyline is meant to be invoked late Act 2 in a more completionist/true end run -after you’ve done everyone’s friend quests but before you’re finished the quest chains for the true end route. You HAVE to have lifeblood in your inventory, that much is certain.
• In steel soul, you can stumble upon the route by complete accident. I’d probably add a specific trigger for the route for players who can’t/don’t want to deal with steel soul, though.
• Game mechanics: No red tools or crests. When you do relearn crests, they’re all buffed and nerfed to reflect the changes Hornet underwent. Permanent Plasmified state… not that that’s a good thing at all. Regardless of what gamemode you were in, you cannot die permanently. You can eat enemies to regenerate silk and lifeblood. You get new lifeblood skills that functionally replace the red tools (same keybinds) but work entirely differently. Annoyingly slower walk speed, run speed is normal thankfully.
• Flavor text wise Hornet is a shambling corpse and her walk cycle and voice lines change to reflect this. Other NPCs definitely notice. More worryingly, the lifeblood’s hold on Hornet grows stronger…
• One plot point is that I have in mind is that YOU become a bossfight, eventually. As in- you still play as Hornet but your friends are fighting you and you get a bad end if you win the fight -but losing the fight is difficult due to game mechanics reflecting the story context.

You may know me elsewhere as the guy who made the Dead Blood AU -this is that.

The art that I feel best represents this concept I’ve drawn over the last few months

Bonus: art that someone else made for me

[loud nexus]

This is fucking peak and we need to get people to look at this

[elfin echo]

PEAK. And all the characters have different plots in act 3 to mess stuff even more

[loud nexus]

I think a better name for this mod would be infected route

Wait i think i got a idea on how to trigger it you have to do everything you said and be un the over dose state when fighting grandmother silk to get to act 3

[elfin echo]

Garmond questline idea, you hear npcs mention that he has been searching for whoever started this new infection to stop them, and then you encounter them and face them in combat, but this time you are the one who has fallen to the infection and slay them

[ornate dragon]

if there was budget to throw at this, it'd be 🔥 if it was die vs GMS phase 2 (after rocks fall) while plasmified and then there's a cutscene where the plasmium/lifeblood resurrects Hornet and consumes GMS, but obviously that's just a dream 😅

[elfin echo]

Shakra would also fight you after at first not believing you would cause this

Shakra and garmond would both have updated bossfights with new moves and stuff

Also like in act 3 the belleater is awakened, but this time hornet arrives too late and bellbeast is eaten

[loud nexus]

I think they would team up to free hornet

Keep the bell beast alive with life blood so they match

[elfin echo]

Conductor ballador tries to organize resistance among the citadel bugs that are still alive, and one mission is to assassinate him or something

[loud nexus]

Wait a second wouldn't the witch crest stay almost the same since it a parsite and a comply difent thing inside hornet?

Or would it also get taken away and changed

[elfin echo]

I think that it may be confusing to have both the silk and lifeblood being an issue at the same time, so here is what I propose, snared silk, but instead of lace freeing you, the lifeblood vines sprout out of your body and cut GMS arm to free you, also killing caretaker snail shaman because they are in the room too. This allows the silk to stop being a problem

while having lifeblood infection start

also, here is a bossfight for garmond idea:Garmond the Gallant, he uses lost garmond as a base, as he leaves zaza somewhere safe as to protect his steed from the threat that hornet is. We also give him some new attacks like parrying projectiles and using certain tools like sting shard, silkshot(mount fay version) or straight pin.

Also has more health and speed than the base fight

[loud nexus]

Would we kill him or not and do we still get lost lace

Or void version of garmond

[loud nexus]

hello is anyone still on this project

[elfin echo]

Nope, though I had an idea for another one

Which is the strung to serve ending

But then you get an alternate act 3, where instead of playing as hornet, you play as Shakra, lace, garmond and sherma

[loud nexus]

I thought this was forgotten but nice

[loud nexus]

anyone on