#Join our alliance s155

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tough crystal
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Yo

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this was the best I could think of lol

unreal ember
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Yo

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All good haha

tough crystal
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hey so for the record most think this is a bad move

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this is r5 and one r4

unreal ember
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Nothing we can do to diplomatically stop it?

tough crystal
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their goal is to disable buffs

unreal ember
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Appreciate you reaching out btw

tough crystal
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which doesn't make sense to me, since there's still 5 days to go

unreal ember
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Would it make sense to cede imperial? We know we aren’t going to be able to win that outright or without some sort of set plan from you guys

tough crystal
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what they want is to let the two other alliances through the two gates, and you to go through the other

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their plan is to destroy flags here and assist support an attack through the middle gate

unreal ember
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Hmm ok, so realistically there isn’t a way out of this for us unless we give up our position

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Does r5 feel like we are a threat to you? You are double the strength plus more

tough crystal
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would you let that alliance cut through your chain in the tile between sub sh and city?

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so you stay through middle and they go to the far gate?

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r5 is worried about a gang up situation

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and I think the balance of power will change a lot after the season ends

unreal ember
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I’ll take it to my guys but that’s essentially 3 days of backtracking our builds and coins/rss gone to the ether

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FWIW we have not engaged other alliances in starting or perpetrating a gang up situation

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We hadn’t heard from you all in the allies on a plan forward for imperial

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So we forged ahead with our builds

tough crystal
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Yeah I honestly don't get the concern

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like even if the imperial city is lost the season is still won with points

unreal ember
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Is there any other potential way out of this?

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Bc once kvk comes, you’ll obviously want us there too

tough crystal
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yea for sure

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umm, what do you think about letting the other alliance cut through your path between sub sh and city?

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that wouldn't disconnect anything of yours

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with where the sub sg is located

unreal ember
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Lemme check one sec

tough crystal
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and no matter what they aren't going to build to city before it opens

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so just make them go the long way

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fwiw they don't want a fight either

unreal ember
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They can’t take the guardian dock to the left?

tough crystal
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small alliance wants to go through there

unreal ember
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Is it 7sg?

tough crystal
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otherwise they're blocked from z3

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apv

unreal ember
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Why don’t we merge apv into 7sg

tough crystal
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I think there's tension there from 7sg's repeated attacks against them

unreal ember
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Can we split apv into wls sb and htk?

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They get the benefits of buffs and tech tree

tough crystal
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I've talked to their leader it seems like they want to stay solo and peaceful

unreal ember
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It comes at our detriment which is the confusing part

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I guess my take is the greater good is to have 4 strong around imperial with a plan to gear up for kvk

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We’ve seen how other servers fare when unified in kvk vs those that aren’t

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I think there’s a diplomatic route here

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And I’m hoping we can figure out without rolling back our position but rather including those from other alliances by merging and strengthening as a server

tough crystal
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yeah I think so too. top people in the alliance don't think current plan is a good idea

unreal ember
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Ok and to make sure I understand (sorry, I know it’s redundant) the only option from your leadership is for us to let apv cut through our sub/fort?

tough crystal
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50a would go there. and they haven't even suggested that i"m just trying to think of options

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so 5oa cuts through and goes to the far fort

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or if you wanted more buffer around your sub sh maybe the could go south of the city

unreal ember
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Why 5oa over us? I’m just trying to understand why we are a threat even though we haven’t caused harm or foul towards wls

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5oa has a path through the guardian dock to the left

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Ugh now our guys our all fighting

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This is not healthy for the server imo and I feel we think the same way

tough crystal
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didn't even see that going on

unreal ember
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I just heard fighting on my screen haha looked up and saw

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No option of guardian dock and for 5oa to get to imperial on our side

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We leave the two squares for them to set up shop?

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I just wanted to enjoy my Monday off haha 🤣

tough crystal
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they've already told apv that they will reserve that dock for them to go through

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lol yea same

unreal ember
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Feels like it’s us getting punished on a whim

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Apv and 5oa get paths and we are debuffed and scaled back

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And we both know Wls would eat any alliance so it’s kind of like hey do this or die lol

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And I’m not trying to come off as brash, just more like welp

tough crystal
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yeah that's ultimately the dynamic that is not healthy for the server

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that's going to change after the season ends

unreal ember
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Idk if a lot of people would stay at that rate tbh

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There’s so much time left til s2

tough crystal
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a few top people are leaving after season

unreal ember
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New server or just done completely

tough crystal
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same server new alliance

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rebalance the power

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so you can have 3 or 4 equally powerful alliances

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instead of one dominant one

unreal ember
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server will suffer til then

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Feels like it would hurt us all for kvk

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There are 4-5 alliances now that could be rebalanced with WLS continuing lead position

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And directing in unison over destroying #2 alliance

tough crystal
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yeah but I don't think r5 sees it that way

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so the best solution is to scale back wls power and influence

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so that it's kind of more balanced and more of a council, instead of one lead horse

unreal ember
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For sure I get that and it makes sense

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I guess in the context of right now, scaling back htk to allow for 5oa to go through is something that comes at our detriment

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Especially when it doesn’t need to happen

tough crystal
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I think apv is the piece that complicates it

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maybe if yall want to see if they can merge with you?

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you have new spots open now right?

unreal ember
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We have 20 and can make 15 more

tough crystal
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I doubt they have more than 20 active

unreal ember
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But why does apv get precedent over htk is kinda my point

tough crystal
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I think it's just like, otherwise they get shut out

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and maybe there's not room for 7 alliances in z3

unreal ember
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if they’re 20 active then they should be spread around

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As opposed to giving them a path over an active alliance

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And 5oa gets guardian dock

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If apv merges and 5oa gets the guardian dock, will this end a fight before it begins?

tough crystal
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yeah I think so

unreal ember
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No point in anyone wasting rss, speed ups etc for this

tough crystal
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i agree

unreal ember
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Can you help me in talks with apv by any chance?

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My guys want me to join the field battles, and I don’t want to do that especially if there is a path fwd

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And I’m not saying that as a threat lol I just have things to do today lmao

tough crystal
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lol yeah im not joining those

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no point in 4 hours of open field battles for nothing

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yeah do you or azn know NAXITE?

unreal ember
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I have spoken to him in the past when they needed our help

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But don’t know him well

tough crystal
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maybe try creating a group chat in game for the three of us?

unreal ember
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Kk

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Wait are you friends with him in game? I can’t add him to a group unless we’re friends apparently

tough crystal
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i just did

unreal ember
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Thank you

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Will wait on Naxite at this point

tough crystal
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👍

unreal ember
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Appreciate you facilitating and connecting with me on this

tough crystal
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np. just please don't let this get back to me, at least until s2 🙂

unreal ember
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🤝

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FWIW our top 4 (me azn mickey Saakku) are aware you and I are chatting

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But that’s the brain trust

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I will manage expectations there

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Will ask my guys to stop open field battling but everyone on both sides wants a little blood it seems

tough crystal
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lol yeah it seems that way

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I guess if you're going to waste troops do it on MGE day 5