Custom keyboards

[jolly coral]

after trying both the metal keycaps and these ceramic keycaps, if you're looking for keycaps made from exotic materials, I would easily recommend going with ceramic

[gray wave]

This is plastic or aluminum case? 👀

[jolly coral]

Plastic

[gray wave]

What do you think about the kzzi k20? 👀

Got too used to a full keyboard layout and want a nunpad 😅

[jolly coral]

Looks great

Cheaper the better

[gray wave]

Perfect

Plus I kinda like it better on looks

[jolly coral]

I literally bought the cheapest on with hot-swap off Amazon and just repainted

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painted it while I was doing your Keeb

still use it when I don't want to pull out a 100% keyboard

very convenient to be able to store a small numpad in a drawer next to my desk and pull it out as needed

[tall cliff]

cool plush behind keyboard

[balmy cove]

Thanks! from Game Grumps :P

[jolly coral]

What's the update? Or just a new photo?

Forgot to ask last time, is that a Corsair K65?

[balmy cove]

just a new photo

and yeah that's the K65 plus

Chanz had it sent out to me

[jolly coral]

Not sure who Chanz is, but congrats on the build, beautiful

[balmy cove]

She runs the discord and reddit 👀

[jolly coral]

I'm clueless

[balmy cove]

Corsair server

[jolly coral]

Oh, I'm not part of that server

[balmy cove]

I'm mostly active in there 😅

[jolly coral]

Ah

I'm only active here

[gray wave]

Noctua color scheme

[jolly coral]

One tech server is enough for me

[jolly coral]

couple of keyboard updates, starting with finally completing my Razer Hello Kitty collab set:

the seller ended up sending a keychain and some Razer red envelopes

as part of the 50th anniversary, there are these novelty keycaps to swap onto the standard Hello Kitty BlackWidow:

And the mouse completes the 50th anniversary set:

and this is the standard mouse (DeathAdder) and mouse pad (Goliathus)

haven't opened a keyboard this awful in a while:

swapping in the 50th anniversary keycaps to reveal soldered Razer Green switches:

Razer BlackWidow Hello Kitty Edition, unlit:

Razer BlackWidow Hello Kitty Edition, lit + ambient lighting:

Razer BlackWidow Hello Kitty Edition, lit + no ambient lighting:

the typing experience was awful, and the keyboard sounds like a kid's toy: https://youtu.be/f5CxyL5MDXM

I did manage to type perfectly

but I was quickly reminded what a "normal" keyboard feels and sounds like

second fun keyboard this for tonight was throwing on the Emerald Green transparent keycaps:

the keycaps looks so good on top of the Beer switches:

unfortunately, despite being a big keycap set, there were no extra keycaps for the 4 keys above the numpad:

ended up pulling some keycaps from a Mahjong set that I've purchased recently:

Ducky One 3 Aura Clear White with Emerald Green transparent keycaps, unlit:

Ducky One 3 Aura Clear White with Emerald Green transparent keycaps, lit + ambient lighting:

Ducky One 3 Aura Clear White with Emerald Green transparent keycaps, lit + no ambient lighting:

finally, the typing test: https://youtu.be/yDwQVYUvLt0

the Ducky board sounds soooo good

the Beer switches' tactile feedback was so light that I was basically typing on linear switches

I really don't recommend getting the Beer switches

[jolly coral]

@compact rivet so do a quick search

what 75% or 80% keyboard do you see?

[compact rivet]

What do you mean by that?

[jolly coral]

do you have the RK M75?

here's a SK75:

here's the M75:

[compact rivet]

Don‘t mind the difference tbh, both look clean

[jolly coral]

SK75 is a full aluminum keyboard and currently priced at $100 for some colors

and the M75 is a plastic case, currently priced at $70

both are pretty good entry level 75% keyboards

[compact rivet]

Probably would go with the Sk75

[jolly coral]

for the more traditional 80% TKL layout

hard to beat the C1 Pro:

plastic case

and probably the best price aluminum is the Galaxy80: https://epomaker.com/products/epomaker-feker-galaxy80

I couldn't stand the super soft PC plate on the Galaxy80

but barebone for the Galaxy80 is $80

and you have 5 colors to choose from, IF you can get it in your country

so yeah, @compact rivet, that's kind of the current market for entry level custom keyboards

if you find something that's available in your country, definitely feel free to share it here

[compact rivet]

oh damn that's many

thanks for the recommandations
Got anything in like the mid level range?

just to see my options

[compact rivet]

if you say super soft, did it feel a bit spongy or something like that? not tactital

[jolly coral]

Tons, Rainy75, Nuphy has a bunch, Tide75 from Epomaker (I have 3, I'm slightly biased towards that board)

80% you have the Keychron Q3/V3 in all the different varieties

And the #⌨-keeb-tkl is definitely one too

[jolly coral]

It's very well dampened. I like hard plates because I use Tactile and Clicky switches

[compact rivet]

I think a local supplier does have keychron keyboards

[jolly coral]

The sound is more thock instead of crispy/clicky with a soft setup

Some people like thock

Especially when you have Linear switches and you're constantly bottoming out

[jolly coral]

There you go

[compact rivet]

ah Isee

from what I've tested so far, felt like I like these linear tactile switches the most

but didn't test too much

mainly just had cherry switches

any switches you'd recommand?

[jolly coral]

There are 3 main categories of switches: linear, tactile and clicky

[jolly coral]

Whatever works for you

I've been posting sound tests for my recent builds

Scroll up to hear some examples

But I personally prefer using tactile switches

It's more difficult to type accurately with linear switches as you will get a bunch of accidental key presses

Linear tends to be more geared towards gaming

And Clicky is for typing

[compact rivet]

saw a video of gateron cream soda switches

[jolly coral]

Tactiles literally covers the middle of the linear and clicky

From a really light bump tactile like the Beer switches I just installed last night

[compact rivet]

Cherry browns should be similar right?

That are the ones I currently have

[jolly coral]

To the Box Royals that's currently on my Circuit Keeb TKL that's borderline clicky

[jolly coral]

Browns are tactile switches

[compact rivet]

aight thanks

just saw onyl 24 dollars is the shipping from Keychron

isn't too bad

[jolly coral]

Keychron has a bunch

[compact rivet]

I sometimes pay the same amount if I'm going to order in Germany

[jolly coral]

Max/Pro and everything else in between

Gets a bit overwhelming shopping on Keychron's website

[tall cliff]

tactiles my beloved

[jolly coral]

But Q-series is their full aluminum, it's going to be around $200, V-series is their plastic case version of the Q-series, parts are shared between V and Q, it's literally just a difference in case material

K is their primary/mainstream line, plastic case

C is their budget line, may not have all the features

[compact rivet]

One "problem" I see is that they don't have many white kits

I mean black is possible as well, as most of my setup is black

[jolly coral]

What size layout have you decided on?

75% or 80%?

[compact rivet]

doesn't matter to me

could live with both

[jolly coral]

Let's stick to 80% then

There is a slight learning curve for the 75% coming from a 100%

[compact rivet]

oh okay

[jolly coral]

Q3 Max has a Shell White barebone:

That's going to be your top of the line for Keychron (which is a "Premium Entry" level keyboard)

[compact rivet]

probably a bit too expensive I'd say

I'd more stick to the entry level for the beginning

if possible aluminium case but not necessary

[jolly coral]

C1 Pro will be the other end of the spectrum:

Unfortunately, you only have one color

But once again, you're not limited to Keychron

I've suggested a bunch above, you just have to see what is available in your region

[compact rivet]

currently checking ye

[jolly coral]

Literally search "80% keyboard" and see what pops up

[compact rivet]

Okay tbh the maximum I'd spend rn would be around 150 without the shipping

[jolly coral]

How much is a Galaxy80?

[compact rivet]

barebone kit in white is either 60 or 80 dollars

[jolly coral]

Crazy easy choice

[compact rivet]

yep

[jolly coral]

Get some nice switches

[compact rivet]

25 dollars shipping

[jolly coral]

If you're in EU, Cherry might be cheaper

[compact rivet]

found the gateron cream sodas on aliexpress for like 60 dollars

110 keys

[jolly coral]

Nah, you're in the EU

How much is it for a set of 90 for Cherry Ergo Clear?

[jolly coral]

Cream Soda is Linear

[compact rivet]

alexpress says tactile hahaha

oh nvm

it says both

[jolly coral]

If you're willing to order from AliExpress, Gateron Baby Kangaroo

[compact rivet]

79 for none lubed and 100 for lubed ones

with shipping

[jolly coral]

Wow, Cherry is still expensive, even in EU

[compact rivet]

I order from Aliexpress every two weeks haha

[jolly coral]

If you're going with a white case, something like the baby kangaroo will fit well

[compact rivet]

Building custom steering wheels so I kinda rely on all the ccutting services there for the carbon fibre

[jolly coral]

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[compact rivet]

damn 35 for 90 keys

but damn the they sound very nice

[jolly coral]

And they type nice too

Top bump tactiles, the bump is up high and it's smooth linear all the way down

The normal tactile switches like Brown has a "mid-bump"

[compact rivet]

aight thanks for those recommandations

[jolly coral]

No problem!

At least you've already got the keycaps picked

[compact rivet]

so Galasy80 with Gateron baby kangaroo it is

[compact rivet]

yep hahha

[jolly coral]

Can't wait to see your build!

[compact rivet]

same here

you usually just order the right amount of switches or some extras?

[jolly coral]

Order the 90 for the 80%

[compact rivet]

idk if 2 spare switches are enough

[jolly coral]

Yes

[compact rivet]

thanks

[jolly coral]

Your setup should sound very similar to the M5 that I've just linked

[compact rivet]

very nice

[merry valley]

i re-switched a 104 last week and only mangled 1 pin, and i am both old, and blind

[jolly coral]

So @merry valley agrees that 2 extra will be enough

[jolly coral]

Somehow got myself into building a keyboard for my wife's best friend's birthday, after an extensive interview, I'm building a Q6 Max:

after ripping the keyboard apart, I swapped out the PC plate for a gold paint aluminum plate:

the aluminum plate started out as a black colored plate which I've sprayed to gold:

the Q6 after the plate swap:

ended up going with Durock White Lotus switches for this build (and a few other upcoming builds):

your standard 5-pin switch with a translucent pink top housing

there's also a light guide for these

the Q6 after the switches installation:

and tested all the switches, all 108 of they were working:

ordered a small set of Winnie the Pooh novelty keys:

the instructions were completely bogus so I've ended up throw them on as I saw fit:

the main keycap set is this Boba themed keycaps from Yunzii:

and the keycaps got throw on, after swapping some novelty keycaps around:

Keychron Q6 Max Boba/Pooh keyboarod, unlit:

Keychron Q6 Max Boba/Pooh keyboarod, lit + ambient lighting:

Keychron Q6 Max Boba/Pooh keyboarod, lit + no ambient lighting:

the 4x build timelapse: https://youtu.be/fyNSFxD-wSo

and the typing test: https://youtu.be/8-9EVNqPfOU

the switches were quite lovely

56g actuation force felt quite good and the switches were very quiet

the keycaps themselves are well made dyb sub PBT

since the Q6 is so solid, plus the addition of the stiff metal plate, the entire keyboard sounded very pleasant

[winged patrol]

@jolly coral do u have any thoughts about one hand keyboard?

To me its looks very weird

But some people say its comfortable

[jolly coral]

no, I just know I'm not going to bother with it

[jolly coral]

nope, the 7U kit from the Emerald Green keycap set didn't work right:

almost done with my green NK87 build

ordered some new keycaps that should match better that's coming on Wednesday

good thing the next #⌨-keeb-tkl is getting here tomorrow. I'll be busy modding this new one for a couple of days

[winged patrol]

Somehow gives cyber punk vibes

[jolly coral]

it's EVA-01

[balmy cove]

I love these omg

[jolly coral]

The keycaps come in 4 colorways: https://a.co/d/73Uk7Wk

Completely impractical keycaps as the RGB completely washes out the legends

[tall cliff]

so epic

[winged patrol]

Emerald and green looks very epic

Compared to other ones

[tall cliff]

pink and emerald are just amazing

[winged patrol]

Depends

[jolly coral]

Yeah, it was a perfect match to the Beer Switches

[winged patrol]

Ye

[tall cliff]

wym depends

they look just amazing

[jolly coral]

Depends on the setup

[tall cliff]

oh

thats what he meant

[jolly coral]

I don't think it looked very good with a black case

Like the ones from the stock seller photos

These clear/transparent keycaps definitely looks better on a lighter colored case

[tall cliff]

something like white

[winged patrol]

Actually pink would great with light set up which is pleasing to eyes

[tall cliff]

white maybe

[winged patrol]

Nah

More like pink, light red, or maybe sky blue

[jolly coral]

Finally finished processing and upload all the videos for a bunch of build

I think I've last left off with the green NK87 build

after getting a new set of pudding keycaps that matched the EVA-01 keycaps with the 7U kit:

I was able to complete the NK87 EVA-01 build, unlit:

NK87 EVA-01, lit + ambient lighting:

I really like the dual zone color scheme for the NK87, I was able to match the 2 zones to the keycaps quite well

NK87 EVA-01, lit + no ambient lighting:

here's the build 4x timelapse: https://youtu.be/ROadcEFjhJI

and the typing test: https://youtu.be/e9IOglF0Yno

the KTT Matcha switches were fairly light and the tactile bump was a little vague, but still better than linears

aside from the 7U spacebar problem, the NK87 aluminum edition was a steal

extremely solid keyboard with excellent dampening

with the brass plate swap, the sound is just perfection to my ears

I really like a nice and stiff metal plate

ack, just realized I've jumped straight to the end of the story without talking about the build process at all

here's the NK87 Aluminum Edition in Alien Green:

once again, a very simple interior:

I've had brass plates installed for my Keychron keyboards previous, and NovelKeys had the brass plates for $5, so hard to say no:

for the switches, I've gone with the KTT Matcha tactile switches:

fairly cheap 3-pin tactile switches with a light spring, nothing to really write home about, except for the perfect color match to the keyboard:

and throwing on the keycaps is where I've started today's posting

right after finish building the EVA-01 NK87, I immediately built the NK87 Aluminum Edition in "Nebula Pink":

loved that NovelKeys used different colored plates depedning on the case color; the green NK87 had a silver plate and the pink NK87 had a black plate

small details like this really makes the NK87 feel premium

I've always wanted to try copper plate, but the price is usually very expensive:

however, I was able to get the copper plate for the same $5

as the other plate materials

I used the Durock White Lotus again, just like the Keychron Q6 Pooh build (#1071070910989209661 message):

I think these are my favorite "girly" pink switches with a very clear tactile bump

it worked beautifully in this pink NK87:

ended up going with 2 sets of keycaps due to the 7U spacebar problem:

here are the pictures for the EVA-08 NK87 build, unlit:

EVA-08 NK87, lit + ambient lighting:

EVA-08 NK87, lit + no ambient lighting:

once again, very pretty 2 zone lighting that makes the white keycaps shine beautifully to support the pink keycaps

can't believe my keyboard journey began less than a year ago with the EVA-02 keycaps and keyboard from ASUS, and now I'm building custom keyboards with the trio:

anyways, ended up finding the perfect set of switches for the MU01 Mountain Seclusion keyboard that I'm planning to gift way:

they are these LTC Jerrzi Tactile switches

very lightweight at 40gf, but has a very distinct bump, unlike the Beer switches

it's a box design for the stem and 5-pin on the bottom

I was able to get this set of 70 as an open box item from Amazon, and spent $16 for them

anyways, ripped off the keycaps and crazy cheap linear switches from the MU01:

and proceeded to install these clear tactile switches in:

as expected, clear switches does wonders for the south-facing LEDs:

and threw the keycaps back on for the MU01 Mountain Seclusion, unlit:

MU01 Mountain Seclusion, lit + ambient lighting:

MU01 Mountain Seclusion, lit + no ambient lighting:

very beautiful and soft lighting under both lighting conditions

here's the video for the switch swap: https://youtu.be/MHN5wRDO7eY

and the typing test: https://youtu.be/PDuXrPvRphc

I still struggled immensely with the 60% layout

the switches felt okay, but definitely on the light side

the sound profile was quite thocky as I've expected

really need to redo my MU01 Joy of Life (#1071070910989209661 message) keeb once the Ducky Year of the Dragon keyboard that I've pre-ordered arrived

the wooden case really creates a nice sound that was completely muted with a set of silent switches

ack, forgot to post the NK87 EVA-08 4x build timelapse: https://youtu.be/cT8EdZ3kDM4

as well as the typing test: https://youtu.be/VfZG65PSefw

while I was building these, I was in the process of modifying my 4th #⌨-keeb-tkl:

recorded a full teardown tutorial: https://youtu.be/CLAv8L1Wc-A

and painted the top and bottom frame + the plate:

blasted the plate with some Blue Cosmos color shifting paint and the pink pieces with some Pixie Dust that turned out to be a bust:

the color shifting and shimmering effect is so much greater with the Blue Cosmos

while the paint was drying, I cut and applied vinyls to the acrylic case:

here's the 4x timelapse of the vinyl application process: https://youtu.be/_qvlNERTWqI

I ended up also recording a rebuild tutorial today: https://youtu.be/PM766BAPJr8

but for this build, I ended up using more Durock White Lotus switches:

the pink switches looks so good again the pink frame:

the switches has a light guide, so the north-facing LEDs really didn't work well when viewed by the switches alone:

I ended up getting a set of March 7th keycaps from AliExpress:

and here's the March 7th Keeb TKL, unlit:

March 7th Keeb TKL, lit + ambient lighting:

March 7th Keeb TKL backside, lit + ambient lighting:

March 7th Keeb TKL, lit + no ambient lighting:

March 7th Keeb TKL backside, lit + no ambient lighting:

the phone camera really struggled with white balance on the back

one more shot of M7's bow:

lastly, the glamour shots of the March 7th Keeb TKL:

backside:

[livid mason]

omg that keeb is adorable

[compact rivet]

damn that keyboard is nice

Barebone kit arrived yesterday, now I just need to wait for the switches

[jolly coral]

This one?

[compact rivet]

yes

[jolly coral]

Oooo, which color did you get?

[compact rivet]

just white

[jolly coral]

[compact rivet]

thought it would look the best with the Holo keycaps

[jolly coral]

Yup

How do you like the barebone so far?

[compact rivet]

feels good

don't have a real comparision with another diy keyboard both definitely feels nice

one question I do have, why are some holes bigger and some smaller for the switches?
The holes in the middle of where the switch is going

[livid mason]

@jolly coral oi, care if i DM you? I kinda wanna pick up a Keeb TKL for a project

[jolly coral]

Either way, we can chat here as well

[jolly coral]

Yes, there are only 2 real pins and 3 fake pins

The center stump is extra large

[livid mason]

i wanna remake my P3 keyboard on a keeb TKL

was thinking of making it Elizabeth themed

OR

i make a P5 keyboard using the new infinikey keycaps

idk which to do (yet)

[jolly coral]

I can send you a vinyl set

But you'll have to paint the parts yourself

[compact rivet]

but just a few do have the large middle hole, is that normal?

I think like 4

[jolly coral]

I mostly used 5-pin switches, but there's a 3-pin set I've pulled last night (yellow)

[compact rivet]

I meant that difference

One does have a bigger middle hole

[jolly coral]

Haha

Probably a screw underneath

But that layer is supposed to be poked through and make a seal with the pins

I remember one of the kits didn't even have any holes in the poron layer

You just literally stab through with the pins

[jolly coral]

So first step is to get a #⌨-keeb-tkl

And I can send you vinyls

But for the M7 and SW Keeb that I've just done, I've ordered some stickers from RedBubble

Because I didn't feel like messing with my inkjet

Quality is slightly lower than what I can print myself

[livid mason]

that's the plan

I just wanted ideas and was wondering if you could help with vinyls

[jolly coral]

But the convenience was worth it since they were just demo pieces

[jolly coral]

I'd be happy to if you send me some designs through DM

[livid mason]

just checking if you were down

gonna order a keeb TKL first

[jolly coral]

Or I can just borrow from the P3 design from HYTE's case

Did you feel comfortable with ripping apart the Keeb after watching my teardown video?

[livid mason]

then we can discuss details later

I also have official P3 stickers from the vinyl records i ordered, so those are gonna look nice

[compact rivet]

Oh okay interesting

[livid mason]

still anxious, but more comfortable than before

[jolly coral]

Those will definitely be nice

[compact rivet]

But thanks

[jolly coral]

If there are any issues when your switches arrive, just post here

I'm sure someone will be glad to guide you in the right direction

[jolly coral]

No worries, I'll be around if you have any issues

[compact rivet]

Will do thanks

[jolly coral]

Apparently the Stitch keyboard is back in Walmart with low profile keys:

Didn't end up getting it because the quality is simply too poor and the design is not good looking

It even has a mouse, mousepad, and headset to compliment:

I was thinking about getting the Squishmellow set:

Once again, deterred by the terrible design and cheap quality

[tall cliff]

looks super cool

[compact rivet]

Am I supposed to leave this foam here?

[jolly coral]

What foam?

I see the PC plate

And please get rid of that QC Pass sticker

Looks like you've got the switches in

[compact rivet]

The black foam

Idk if it‘s foam

[compact rivet]

Yeah without a problem

The ones in the corner were a bit tricky because the plastic was bending but apart from that it worked

Unfortunately I‘ve to wait a week till I can test it

[jolly coral]

Oh, the spacebar foam?

That's intentional

[jolly coral]

Yeah, I didn't like how much flex there was on that plate, but makes for a thock sound profile

I like my keyboards to "click" a bit more

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[compact rivet]

I guess I‘ll see

First few click felt good

[gray wave]

Cherry Keeb got a visual upgrade

[tall cliff]

i hardly see letters

but looks good

[jolly coral]

oh dang

[gray wave]

And a small numpad

[jolly coral]

crazy

just built similar numpad recently:

[gray wave]

Color shift plate now pops harder

[jolly coral]

I was going to post at some point

[jolly coral]

I love it!

[gray wave]

Muscle memory helped a lot, I also hardly see the letters 😛

[jolly coral]

haha

glad HYTE didn't go with some weird layout

I struggle with anything other than 80% and 100% keyboards

[gray wave]

Watch them release a 69%

[tall cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

[jolly coral]

alright, finally got all the videos processed and uploaded

since getting the purple NK87 (#1071070910989209661 message) for my wife, she's been interested in getting a numpad for herself

she saw my EK21 (#1071070910989209661 message) and got interested

I ended up getting 2, since I couldn't find a single numpad that met all the criteria she wanted

I got both the BOYI TD21: https://a.co/d/c6ilJdm

which had the perfect clear purple body along with the exact OEM pudding keycaps that I had used for the purple NK87 build

BUT, it was missing a knob

so I ended up ordering the YUNZII YZ19 as well: https://a.co/d/cI3Nlkt

[tall cliff]

how much you spent total on keyboard stuff

[jolly coral]

I don't know, I don't keep track

[tall cliff]

try keeping since now

[jolly coral]

the YZ19 looked quite good in white (the EK21 didn't come in white) and most importantly, had a knob

I began by modding the YZ19 first, after unboxing:

[tall cliff]

i should consider buying a new keyboard as i bought a new mouse

but my previous mouse needed replacement for a long time because of mmb

[jolly coral]

Gateron Yellow Linear switches:

had some Akko Lavender Purple tactiles leftover from the Purple Q6 (#1071070910989209661 message):

[tall cliff]

im too broke

[jolly coral]

after doing the first couple of switches, I've discovered a soft spot on the top left corner of the numpad, so I opened the numpad further to add some neoprene:

otherwise, very nice and solid numpad, and looks great with the leftover keycaps from the Purple NK87:

build and sound test video for the YUNZII YZ19: https://youtu.be/9ioxi7WYEm0

next was the BOYI TD21:

as soon as I was pulling the switches, I knew this numpad was significantly worse quality:

everything about the numpad just screamed cheap:

[tall cliff]

expensive

[jolly coral]

the TD21 did end up having the same Gateron Yellow linear switches as well

which I've swapped for some HYTE Fluffy Lavender switches that I've kept from the recent M7 Keeb TKL build (#1071070910989209661 message)

since I was going for a perfect match to the Purple NK87 (which also has the HYTE Fluffy Lavender)

[tall cliff]

alright

[jolly coral]

after padding the TD21 with some serious amount of neoprene, the numpad was barely acceptable:

build and sound test for the BOYI TD21: https://youtu.be/6f0dkpMcw8w

turns out, the knob was less crucial to my wife than pretty LED lights:

but after doing 3 of these numpads now, my personal ranking has to be YZ19 > EK21 >>>> TD21

the only redeeming quality for the TD21 is sheer number of case color and keycaps selection:

the extra set of LEDs on the side might appeal to some people

but just an awful numpad in terms of typing quality

EK21 has an advantage over YZ19 due to it's ability to be programmed through VIA

but the build quality is pretty low due to the lack of dampening

YZ19 has both the knob and frankly, a little bit more effort on the overall typing experience

anyways, all 3 numpads are in the $40 range and all have issues

but I wasn't about to spend keyboard money on a numpad

I also did a small keycaps swap over the weekend

my wife ended up taking the White K10 Pro with the Cerakey keycaps (#1071070910989209661 message) to work and brought back her current work keyboard, the iROK FE104 that I don't think I've ever shared here before:

Here's the typing test with the OEM profile pudding keycaps that I've originally put on the FE104: https://youtu.be/s40ZPkHT_Pk

did a super quick keycaps swap: https://youtu.be/0zWH4e7y0uY

and here's the typing test with the Cherry profile keycaps: https://youtu.be/ggiorvJc12k

aside from the profile change (that impacted my typing a little bit), the sound profile is extremely similar between OEM and Cherry

anyways, here's the iROK FE104 with the Mahjong keycaps, unlit:

my keyboard wall is finally filled now:

a video tour of the keyboard wall:

been quite a journey starting from the EVA-02 keyboards from ASUS all the way to the latest EVA-01 and EVA-08 NK87s in the span of almost a year now:

I've got a couple more keyboards coming (an IDOBAO ID87 Crystal this Friday and the Akko Year of Dragon pre-order)

but otherwise, I think I'm finally done building keebs for a while

going to start focusing on this Y70 build that I'm planning to complete before the end of this year

[tall cliff]

gren

pink

red

[jolly coral]

oh yeah, there's a Green Mode Loop that will be coming at the end of the year when the Songque keycaps get here

[jolly coral]

but yeah, there won't be much left to keep track

I'm going to be done building keebs for a while

but I can do some rough estimates

there are currently 15 keyboards on the keyboard wall

there are 3 keyboards being daily driven on my wife and my desk so 6 more

so that's a total of 21 keyboards

let's be generous and estimate that each keyboard is around $200 ($150 board + $30 switches + $20 keycaps)

throw in some shipping and taxes, I think this whole keyboard adventure of mine was under $5k

[tall cliff]

das ist much

[jolly coral]

correct, and that's why there are a lot more keyboard review channels than there are PC building channels

literally 1/10th of the cost to run the channel

I mostly did this adventure to enrich my own knowledge

so that to me was worth more than the financial investment that I've put into this project

if anything, I can make a crazy unique gift that can be targeted to a particular price range

[tall cliff]

if i will have any questions about keyboard now i know who to ask

lol

[jolly coral]

like this birthday present to my wife's best friend: #1071070910989209661 message

she just received it and got everything setup

and she's blown away at the quality difference

[jolly coral]

yup, I'll be here

[tall cliff]

quality difference compared to what

[jolly coral]

the plastic stuff that comes bundled with every office desk?

[tall cliff]

oh

mine is basically ewaste

[merry valley]

starting in september, we are being forced to go to the office 2 days a week. seriously considering toting my GMMK with the greens in to see if they send me home lol

[tall cliff]

lmao

are greens that loud?

[merry valley]

on an aluminum deck with no gaskets or rings, yes

i absolutely cannot type on a membrane board anymore, especially the 5$ throwaway dells scattered all over

[jolly coral]

Do it. Make management regret their back to office order

[tall cliff]

make them suffer

[livid mason]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-make-him-suffer-stephen-tamill-south-park-s15e12-one-percent-gif-23108287

[compact rivet]

Keyboard is working

[tall cliff]

good

[compact rivet]

only broke one switch

I'm impressed by myself

[tall cliff]

how is that even possible

[compact rivet]

idk

probably just wasn't paying too much attention

[jolly coral]

Pictures?

[compact rivet]

My lighting in my room is extremely bad

[winged patrol]

Very nice!

[compact rivet]

I absolutely love it

[winged patrol]

Looks great tbh

[tall cliff]

@jolly coral can you do this

[winged patrol]

What in heavens is this alien rgb

Too powerful

[jolly coral]

Funny, I've just ordered an ID87

Supposedly shipped last week from Germany

But I'm sure I can make the same over exposed video with my Circuit #⌨-keeb-tkl

[jolly coral]

Overexposure

[tall cliff]

brightness of gods

[winged patrol]

Apollo I think

[winged patrol]

Oh ic

[winged patrol]

Well he is God of sun but kratos used him as flashlight

[jolly coral]

here you go: @tall cliff and @winged patrol

didn't feel like pulling off the keycaps tonight

but the guy was recording the switches directly

[winged patrol]

Nice

[tall cliff]

heavenly

[jolly coral]

@fervent wolf, over here

[fervent wolf]

wsg

[jolly coral]

So you're not in the US?

[fervent wolf]

mhm

im in bulgaria

balkans

europe

yk

[jolly coral]

K

#1071070910989209661 message

See anything you like?

[fervent wolf]

but without see through keys and with a black frame instead of white

[jolly coral]

So you want a full size keyboard

[fervent wolf]

it doesnt really matter to me what size it is but probably preffered 80% or 60%

[jolly coral]

But the one you just took a screenshot of is a 100%

[fervent wolf]

ye just for an example of what i want fr

[jolly coral]

So you want a 100%

And what do you know about switches?

[fervent wolf]

it doesnt matter i just sent for an example of what i want fr*

[fervent wolf]

ion know anything tbh

[jolly coral]

K

If you just want something that works, get a Keychron K10 or Keychron V6

Both are sub $100 full sized keyboards that will outperform any of the generic big branded keyboards

[fervent wolf]

where can i find those?

nvm

found em

[jolly coral]

At the $200 range, you can easily get a full aluminum keyboard like the Keychron Q6

So take a look at the 3 models

And tell me which one interests you

[fervent wolf]

u meant k6?

[jolly coral]

No, I meant a V6

[fervent wolf]

dont got that in the store im buyin from

only the k6 and k10

[jolly coral]

K6 is a 65%

[fervent wolf]

i like the 65%

[jolly coral]

Even better

Less decision

[jolly coral]

With a 65%, you don't get numpad or function row

Gets a little bit inconvenient for work

[fervent wolf]

an 80% keyboard maybe

[jolly coral]

So TKL?

Like the #⌨-keeb-tkl from HYTE?

With 80%, you lose the numpad

[fervent wolf]

isnt this an 80%?

[jolly coral]

Nope, that's a 96% or also known as 1800 layout

[fervent wolf]

well the 96% basically takes out most of the unnecessary space or?

[jolly coral]

If you think the home/delete/insert/page up keys are unnecessary

[fervent wolf]

ah

dang

are they like highly necessary

[jolly coral]

I don't know

It's your preference

[fervent wolf]

alright ill just straight up go with an 80% or 75% with a dark frame rgb black keys or black and dark blue keys

still seeking more performance for competition

[jolly coral]

Price range?

[fervent wolf]

200 levs

or around that

still searching?

@jolly coral

[jolly coral]

Not sure what that means

[fervent wolf]

targetting response time and latency

[jolly coral]

Wooting's 80HE is probably one of these performing 80% right now

It's out in September

[fervent wolf]

yeah but thats 440 levs

💀

@jolly coral

[jolly coral]

Okay, show me the website that you're going to order from

That will be easier

Sorry, had to pick my daughter up from school, first day, kind of a mess

@fervent wolf, this looks like a fun site: https://qwertykey.eu/

Will ordering from here work?

Because they have the V5: https://qwertykey.eu/products/keychron-v5-hotswap-rgb-tastatura-mecanica

Otherwise, Akko has a European site: https://akkogear.eu/

That's right, I've recently ordered from CandyKeys: https://candykeys.com/

They're in Germany

They have a huge selection

I've just remembered, do you need ISO vs. ANSI?

[fervent wolf]

what does lubricated mean

[jolly coral]

Don't bother

You won't notice the difference

Nice, Q3 is on pre-order at CandyKeys: https://candykeys.com/product/keychron-q3-max-iso-de

Before we get too far

Which website can we order from?

There are just too many keyboards for me to just suggest

[fervent wolf]

ardes.bg or desktop.bg

[jolly coral]

Ardes is a huge site

Lots of junk keyboards

That I can't filter correctly

And I can't access desktop.bg:

Found one! https://ardes.bg/product/genesis-thor-404-tkl-gateron-cheren-nkg-2069-364044

Annoying that it's north facing LEDs

But not a deal killer

Hot swap, TKL, Gateron Yellows

Separate listing for the Brown Tactile switches: https://ardes.bg/product/genesis-thor-404-tkl-kailh-cheren-nkg-2071-364043

The Yellows are linear switches

Nice, ardes also has the V3: https://ardes.bg/product/keychron-v3-max-qmk-cheren-sin-v3m-d4-403390

If you can spend a little bit more, the V3 is a far superior product

And it's the knob version too

[fervent wolf]

ill check em

[jolly coral]

Second listing for the V3: https://ardes.bg/product/keychron-v3-max-qmk-cheren-sin-v3m-d3-403389

That one is for Brown

The previous one is the Banana

Both are tactile

I prefer the Banana switches because of the top bump

Here is a listing for the K8: https://ardes.bg/product/keychron-k8-tkl-rgb-cheren-k8-c2-209241

But blue Clicky switches

Very loud and annoying, but if you want clicky switches

[fervent wolf]

is there any site that can compare keyboards

[jolly coral]

No

There are too many

What do you want to compare?

[fervent wolf]

Keychron K8 Pro and razer deathstalker v2

[jolly coral]

What the, the special edition Yellow Ducky One 3 is in stock: https://ardes.bg/product/ducky-one-3-zhalt-ducky-key-08-ruspdydyyyc1-270984

[jolly coral]

What do you want to compare?

[fervent wolf]

overall performance

[jolly coral]

What does that even mean?

Deathstalker is a generic keyboard with no hot swap

[fervent wolf]

in a more understandable way?

[jolly coral]

Essentially no better than the "Genesis" Thor 404

[jolly coral]

No modding future

And they're charging too much for a generic keyboard

Just because of branding

A huge attraction for custom keyboards is the ability to swap out switches

And keycaps

These generic branded keyboards are terrible, not only because they're over charging, but also most of them don't have hot swap switches

Logitech is probably the worst offender

They use proprietary switches so you can't even swap keycaps

Nice, first barebone: https://ardes.bg/product/glorious-rgb-gmmk-tkl-ansi-cheren-gl-key-gata-973-278323

Spotted a bunch of Ducky One 3 TKL at the end, but all out of your price range

Anyways, went through the entire ardes website

Those are the only TKL keyboards I would recommend

[jolly coral]

Where are you seeing the K8 Pro?

[fervent wolf]

mb

didnt mean pro

but ye

i found the deathstalker v2 for 200 levs

with a free steam game

to it

desktop.bg

[jolly coral]

Sorry, can't access that website from the US

[jolly coral]

The TKL or the 100% version?

Anyways, there are quite a few Keychron keyboards on ardes

I would filter and see if you see something you like

All Keychron keyboards are programmed with VIA

So there's no heavy software in the background

[fervent wolf]

is the razer software like

bad bad

[fervent wolf]

@jolly coral

[jolly coral]

Wait, that's a low profile keyboard?

Why do you want a low profile keyboard?

[fervent wolf]

In more understandable terms

[jolly coral]

Low profile:

Types like a damn laptop

[fervent wolf]

Like aesthetic?

Oh you meant the switch height?

Or sum

[jolly coral]

Yes

And extremely limited selection of keycaps

Do you even want to build a custom keyboard?

[tall cliff]

ain't no way im getting 1st place in mee6 bot if dihy continues talking about keyboards

[jolly coral]

Why do you want first?

[tall cliff]

no idea

[jolly coral]

Not any worse than the Logitech stuff

You'll be bound to their ecosystem if you don't want to run another software in the background

[fervent wolf]

Honestlt the only difference in my eyes rn is the colors lmao

[jolly coral]

Imagine being able to use any keycaps on the market

And switches

If that doesn't excite you

Just get something cheap

Redragon

Genesis

No need for hot-swappable

[fervent wolf]

Oh btw here is the k8 pro I was talking bout

[jolly coral]

Yeah, I would get the V3 I've linked above instead

V3 has a knob for starters

[fervent wolf]

Reply to the msg rq

The v3 one

[fervent wolf]

Hm?

[jolly coral]

This one

Hey this one

It'll change your life

[fervent wolf]

wheres the rgb since it says it has

[jolly coral]

All RGB are on the PCB

[fervent wolf]

which is

[jolly coral]

Here, watch this video: https://youtu.be/yQqJafC7xv0

[jolly coral]

On the bottom

Every keyboard has their RGB on the bottom

Your keycaps determine how much light you want to let through

[jolly coral]

You can go crazy and get transparent keycaps

[fervent wolf]

i see

[jolly coral]

Keychron ships with very generic keycaps

Half expecting users to swap

[fervent wolf]

idk where to get keycaps though

[jolly coral]

Google

Search

Someone will want to sell you something from China

[fervent wolf]

aint that bad

[jolly coral]

It's just keycaps

[fervent wolf]

idk any sites though

they r expensive on keychron.com though

[winged patrol]

China products?

[jolly coral]

Google "keycaps" and show me what you find

[winged patrol]

I mean aliexpress is best

(Only if u leave outside my country)

[jolly coral]

Have you seen keycaps not made in China?

[fervent wolf]

well nothing good

[winged patrol]

Idk

I am guessing most are made in china

[jolly coral]

Show me

[winged patrol]

What theme ur set up is?

[fervent wolf]

setup isnt here yet but itll be blue for the rgb 🤷

[fervent wolf]

just search for emag.bg and gplay.bg

and check the keycaps

im lf black and blue

or gray and blue shit like that

or just straight up black ig

[jolly coral]

Like this? https://www.emag.bg/komplekt-klavishi-za-klaviatura-akko-starry-night-keycaps-set-pbt-osa-pylen-komplekt-187-klavisha-us-oformlenie-syvmestim-s-mehanichni-klaviaturi-akosastryngt/pd/DHBZ2PYBM/

[fervent wolf]

nah thats red yellow and blue

😭

• aint that a specific game orientated keyboard

and its 150 levs

enough for a whole keyboard

this is what im lf

an example

but its 219 keys

[jolly coral]

More, cheaper: https://gplay.bg/search?search_text=Keycaps

[fervent wolf]

cheaper but nothing fitting

[jolly coral]

No Amazon?

[jolly coral]

Can you order from here? https://candykeys.com/products/keycaps

CandyKeys is in Germany

[fervent wolf]

That shit is more expensive than my kidney

[jolly coral]

Nevermind

[jolly coral]

That GMK set is 40:

Do you have Amazon? @fervent wolf?

[fervent wolf]

amazon delivery is expensive

like 40$

[jolly coral]

I see

[fervent wolf]

here

[jolly coral]

They're shipping from Germany

Because I got redirected to the German Amazon

[fervent wolf]

still

[jolly coral]

How about AliExpress?

[fervent wolf]

ion trust that chinese bs fr

[jolly coral]

Do they ship to your country?

Because KPRepublic is one of the largest site https://kprepublic.com/collections/keycaps

If you want lots of RGB, it's hard to beat Pudding Keycaps:

[jolly coral]

Oomph, Drop is having BOGO on their MT3 (SA) and DCX (OEM) keycaps: https://drop.com/all-communities/drops/BACKTOSCHOOLBOGO

The Noctua set and the LOR set are on the list

Along with the gorgeous gemstone DCX sets

[jolly coral]

@mortal venture, which custom keycaps?

[mortal venture]

just the drawing i dont mean something special 😭

[tall cliff]

custom keycaps on alie is pretty expensive ong

[jolly coral]

I've recently ordered a super cute set: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806099312064.html

[tall cliff]

50€

[jolly coral]

but it's the crazy tall MOA profile

[tall cliff]

70€

[mortal venture]

those are really nice they are going into the basket

[jolly coral]

several designs and colorways

choose something that fits your setup more

but they have both dogs and cats

[mortal venture]

i really thought of buying this keyboard but i was afraid of it being too much

[jolly coral]

and the major selling point for these are the fact that the key SHAPES are different

[mortal venture]

does it need to get used to it ?

[jolly coral]

Alice?

yeah

I can't get used to it

[mortal venture]

i forgot the keyboard name

but its the most nice looking

[jolly coral]

I see

[mortal venture]

i love cats and dogs but i cant be around big dogs they have beef with me and i just hate being jumped

[jolly coral]

Mellenius built one a while back: #1071070910989209661 message

[mortal venture]

buying puppies keycaps will be ultimate betrayer to my two cats

[jolly coral]

crazy RGB acrylic board: https://www.keebmonkey.com/products/keebmonkey-blackhole-pro-acrylic-keyboard

[mortal venture]

may i know the full name of the keyboard and does it come without switches?

[tall cliff]

16€ for just one

[jolly coral]

yeah, I've just shared the link

[mortal venture]

sorry

[jolly coral]

and you'll need to get stabs

probably not the best beginner board to mess with

[mortal venture]

only 89 usd ? so cheap

i thought it was more expansive than this from the look

[jolly coral]

nah

keyboard prices have really been coming down

[mortal venture]

wait no wireless version ?

the cut is wow

[jolly coral]

indeed

[tall cliff]

sounds pretty reasonable

[jolly coral]

otherwise, it's hard to go wrong with the Feker Alice keyboard

[mortal venture]

its not wireless

i hate wired keyboard recently

[jolly coral]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806328376377.html

[mortal venture]

o really

[jolly coral]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807325126892.html

several listings

but with Feker, they tend to tune for a "thock" sound

[mortal venture]

is the knot replaceable ? ill assume yes

[jolly coral]

yeah

lower end keeb

very little mod ability

[mortal venture]

you really going to make me buy this

[jolly coral]

but goes back to the question of whether or not to go Alice

[mortal venture]

no ill buy dont care if it was not for the use

it can be hannging

for the looks

[jolly coral]

ah

[mortal venture]

i hate myself

someday ill stop

[tall cliff]

this reminds me someone

hehe

[mortal venture]

the 98 version looks so ugly

and long

[jolly coral]

hard to beat the cute yellow corgi

and get it with a set of yellow dog keycaps

[jolly coral]

then get the Alice80

Feker makes both

[mortal venture]

theres also 68 am now really thinking which one

my hands and my typing says 80

and the looks says 68

[jolly coral]

https://youtu.be/-B5NRsNkNb8

[tall cliff]

what are pros of bent keyboards

except typing

[jolly coral]

ergo

[mortal venture]

ill be bankrupt

atleast my salary is in two days

[tall cliff]

i wouldn't like my keyboard to be bent, sometimes i use only one hand to type (don't think about it the wrong way)

i just have a little physicological disorder that makes me think that some things are dirty

[mortal venture]

8000 battery ooo

[jolly coral]

anyways, review definitely covered everything I would want to know about the keyboard

but definitely shop around

I like the fact that Feker's Alice80 comes with a knob

somehow the knob is a huge deal for my wife

(I like it too, helpful, but not a necessity)

[mortal venture]

i really need it

my speakers kinda far

[jolly coral]

but yeah, the CIDOO version is VIA programmable: https://a.co/d/7eakJea

[mortal venture]

theres a one comes witth matcha keycaps

[jolly coral]

and not to mention only $60 and comes with a screen

[jolly coral]

matcha keycaps?

[mortal venture]

yes ive seen on the box atleast

ill look for it

[mortal venture]

you know screens are nice and the maken the best look

but

my eyes cant handle anymore

i cant have more screens

[jolly coral]

well, matcha keycaps aren't that expensive: https://a.co/d/ehqllQA

[mortal venture]

am planning to update my eyes graphic card with lesser surgery soon 😭

[jolly coral]

I would just get a barebone

[jolly coral]

#off-topic, but don't do it

take it from someone who knows a ton of people that had done it

just don't

[tall cliff]

ill stick to 17€ keycaps

[mortal venture]

@jolly coral i was checking the alice keyboards just now to pick up one

is there a company stands out for this type ? i see alot of feker and others

[jolly coral]

Nope

Keycaps get tricky with this layout

[mortal venture]

is there something i need to keep in mind ?

before buying keycaps for this type of keyboards

also everytime i search this keyboard alice in wondeland shows up for and i used to like this show so much

makes me want to buy this keyboard even more

[jolly coral]

Split space bar

[mortal venture]

oooo true

this makes things harder

[tall cliff]

how it even feels to play on such keyboard

[jolly coral]

And you'll even want to go with a flat profile keycaps like DSA or XDA:

Since the keys are all angled funny

Something with too much curve will end up being weird

Since the rows don't really line up

[tall cliff]

do these profiles matter on normal keyboards?

[jolly coral]

Not as much except for preference

[tall cliff]

then ill be fine with any

[jolly coral]

It's actually a problem with these weird layout ergo keyboards

[tall cliff]

as long as it looks good

[jolly coral]

Crazy people end up printing their own

Like 3D print

[jolly coral]

A lot harder

These flat profile keycaps usually don't come designed

Here's a few sets: https://a.co/d/cQwZEMO

But no split space bar

So essentially, these 2 factors combined will make your hunt for keycaps extra difficult

[mortal venture]

i dont know how will i find split space bar

i forgot

when u buy full key caps set does these keys for the space bar come with it or without

i hope they do

[jolly coral]

But there is a set from Epomaker: https://a.co/d/dFwqil5

Cherry profile

[mortal venture]

depend on u

[jolly coral]

More cherry profile: https://a.co/d/2QZzl0c

[mortal venture]

assuming cherry profile will be bee sting when clicking

or is it fine with this layout

[jolly coral]

I'm not sure

Since I've never owned an Alice keyboard before

Only this stuff from Microsoft, back in the day: https://a.co/d/awYqRnP

[mortal venture]

oo this looks old

am thinking to get eponaker as they are cheaper but i hope the quality is not

so ill check reviews on epomaker models

i dont know what switches i should go with this time also am idiot i always ruin 2 - 5 switches everytime

i doom the pins

[mortal venture]

@jolly coral am sorry asked you so much but do you think it will take so much to learn typing on this keyboard ? or its just like different type then get used to it

[winged patrol]

Honestly looks cool

[tall cliff]

you should get used to typing pretty quickly (under a week imo)

because isn't it supposed to feel more "natural"

[mortal venture]

i wont take any advices from you because of your intel takes

[tall cliff]

nerd

[tall cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-gif-25599710

[mortal venture]

ive seen some sound tests on these switches they are top

they sound better than the feker matcha ones

[tall cliff]

outemu lemon are pretty good too literally silent tactiles

also cheap and green

[tall cliff]

from my research

[mortal venture]

am yellow hater

[tall cliff]

they look a little yellowish but you wont see it under keycaps

[mortal venture]

ill check it in a bit as i dont know what should i go with my barebone

am thinking cream switches or matcha

[tall cliff]

alright, its your choice

[jolly coral]

Hipyo caught a lot of flak for this video: https://youtu.be/d5Y75E6FDno

[tall cliff]

i would never get used to ergonomic keyboard tbh

[jolly coral]

And the follow-up video where he fitted the whole desk: https://youtu.be/cx65qfZAaPo

He busted out several ergonomic keyboards towards the end of the video

[merry valley]

i learned to type on a MS split board

took me 2 years to convert to a straight board

and i still typo AF

[mortal venture]

it looks difficult

sadly all the alice ones are either 66 or full 98 the 75 ones are so expansive for some reason

https://youtube.com/shorts/smzrxzAsqK4?si=pDNETZvW6_2ymEqL

this one comes with keycaps also there is a joy stick in the middle 😭

i wonder if it can be modded if there is software

it looks they are new but looks fresh

[jolly coral]

Anything to distinguish themselves from a Keychron

Keychron has several Alice layout

Including this 75% Alice: https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v10-alice-layout-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40358750093401

[mortal venture]

only if they didnot increase prices

they would be everyone choice

[jolly coral]

Or the metal version: https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q10-max-alice-layout-qmk-via-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40763607613529

[mortal venture]

but now they are overpriced

[jolly coral]

Nah, it's just the rest of the market has gotten cheaper

[mortal venture]

idk which one but yes compared to others

they are expansive

but yes theey meet the expectations most of the time

oh wow from retailers keycheron cost so much here

LIKE 40% PRICE INCREASE

no

actually almost 100% price increase

[mortal venture]

i searched it and it costs around 390 here wow....

[jolly coral]

This site still has the purple color Q10 barebone: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/keychron-q10-w-knob?variant=47608005329196

[jolly coral]

That's crazy

[mortal venture]

maybe thats why i thought it was overpriced

thank you for providing me for more options

my fav one so far is the one with joystick and feker alice80

keycheron q10 ill check it in a bit

[jolly coral]

Good luck in finding a board

Extremely niche market item

And I thought 100% boards were rough