general-discussion

[still wren]

this is just straight up criminal, absolutely disgusting

[celest remnant]

holy

[timid tide]

Or a straight virus

[still wren]

must be a joke

[celest remnant]

and you want me to try that

[green gust]

I played baldurs gate 3 and i watched the movie thats all i know

[celest remnant]

yeah surely

[fervent zodiac]

why is it so expensive

[velvet canopy]

like what

[timid tide]

Or a secret third thing god dang

[green gust]

What do u mean

[celest remnant]

bro basically said "lose all your money"

[still wren]

do u not see $80 for a boat

[wet plume]

Well if ya know some people you can maybe get a session going if ya got time for it

[fervent zodiac]

its not a boat its a vessel

[wet plume]

That is if you want to do a session in the first place

[still wren]

that cant be a sincere "what do u mean"

😭

[green gust]

Cuz game nearly died but tbe sailing is the most realistic of any game

[still wren]

i hope it gets removed from steam

[sour lagoon]

Most expensive modern video game is destiny 2

[still wren]

https://klipy.com/gifs/himemori-luna-hololive-4--k01KQXERWQJ5867WSHGJTC1B7NA

[celest remnant]

80$ dollar dlc what

[green gust]

Did u even play it

[celest remnant]

even elden ring, made by bandai didn't do that

[velvet canopy]

the dlcs are on sale for like 3 bucks

[celest remnant]

what kinda crack

[still wren]

what country do u live in btw let me convert the currency for u

[velvet canopy]

the entire set of dlcs up to final shape

not really expensive T_T

[dim wyvern]

this is my first ever play through do I joing volcano manner

[green gust]

I told u abt the game you dont need to explain it to me

[celest remnant]

Train Simulator wants to know your location

[still wren]

😭

[green gust]

Tyeres still free ships yk

[sour lagoon]

Most expensive to pay for on dlc release and those expansions aren’t even recent

[velvet canopy]

well the only ones left out are edge of fate and renegades

its not too bad

[green gust]

Bro we were talking abt best sailing in a game this beats black flag in that regard

[celest remnant]

"Destiny Expensive" at least their DLC has morec ontent than "A new train and route"

[sour lagoon]

Biggest money pit for players that stay up to date

[timid tide]

Could make a whole ahh 5090 + 9950X3D2 setup with the most expensive parts you can even buy

[royal basin]

Oh sims 4?

[still wren]

yeah nah this must be bait 😭 back to lords of the fallen

[celest remnant]

Train Simulator

[velvet canopy]

i agree with that

[sour lagoon]

The content feels like it’s free to play and the guns are just thrown in there

[celest remnant]

Like legit I'd sooner see my homies get hung up on stellaris (paradox games also expensive as hell) than train simulator

[royal basin]

Ah

[velvet canopy]

i still need to figure out total warhammer 3

[sour lagoon]

I do enjoy the destiny game but am salty af about the money spent

[velvet canopy]

or whatever its called

[celest remnant]

You basically got it

[velvet canopy]

i paid 110 euro for witch queen

[sour lagoon]

And the players in destiny are the most toxic

[green gust]

Its free to play btw

[celest remnant]

Total War is a long ass running series

[velvet canopy]

seeing it on sale for 3 euro was traumatizing

[celest remnant]

they've did warhammer but also, feudal everything

[velvet canopy]

honestly space marine looks so good

id play that

[sour lagoon]

People say our community can be toxic bs destiny is worse

[green gust]

Boring imo

[celest remnant]

It is, if you buy one next, make it space marine 2

[royal basin]

My friend hosts Stellaris so he gets all the dlc

[green gust]

Super repetitive

[velvet canopy]

i was thinking that

once i finish lightfall and final shape

[celest remnant]

Expensive but it's very cool because host shares dlc with people

[scenic lake]

jesus

[green gust]

Bro i tried space marine but it was boring to me idk

[royal basin]

I don’t get to use advisor voices but I can eat planets so that’s ok

[celest remnant]

I've never had a toxic experience with destiny but I also avoid the discord

[scenic lake]

i had so many as a child

[velvet canopy]

i just play the game, i dont like joining discords for the games. i enjoy playing in silence and solo for the most part

[green gust]

I knew a guy who had thousands of hours in both games bruh

[celest remnant]

I at least TRY the discord but if it's mid, I'm out

[green gust]

I could never

[timid tide]

All noctua fans, hyte touchscreen case, a 10 Gigawatt PSU, top end ROG Motherboard, 5090, 9800X3D2, a 360hz 4k Oled, top end custom keyboard and mouse, studio quality headphones and a mic, and a lambskin mousepad for the price of that game's dlc by the way

[celest remnant]

this place had me considering for awhile but nah

[scenic lake]

no raid

[willow minnow]

Destiny is mainly bad for new lights and thats because they're always trying to do flawless raids, petras runs, etc.

[celest remnant]

(namely the early days)

[green gust]

I nearly have 1k on dayz

[velvet canopy]

thats fair, i used to use the apex legends discord to find team mates and it was tragic

[timid tide]

And you might have money left over

[sour lagoon]

Nah it’s lfg players and sometimes your own clan mates that won’t help their own and are impatient af

[celest remnant]

I really like GTFO the game

[velvet canopy]

idm, i enjoy campaign and dungeons

[stone meteor]

Hi guys

[celest remnant]

but for a long time you 100% had to use the discord

[green gust]

Yooo its ash

[celest remnant]

it was so mid

[velvet canopy]

my friend was telling me to get that when it came out

[stone meteor]

Hi there

[sour lagoon]

Also bad for returning players

[green gust]

Wsg bro

[scenic lake]

fair i played the same way, just solo bc i had no friends that played to raid with and i didnt wanna lfg

[sour lagoon]

Like me

[celest remnant]

It's quite good when you can get a group together, pretty pants wetting because of the sound design when you attempt to play alone

[timid tide]

As well as longstanding players, destiny is genuinely unrecoverable

[willow minnow]

agreed.

Dumped a ton of money on the game, and here I am basically quit the game.

[velvet canopy]

my friends play league and valorant so i get that, they hated apex and destiny isnt for them so i just solo it

[willow minnow]

Destiny 1 is still fine, you can find people on it and everything.

[velvet canopy]

honestly i dont find horror games scary but recently i tried phasmo on vr

[sour lagoon]

Getting ready to I just don’t have the time or energy to deal with impatient tryhards

[velvet canopy]

i have never been so scared

[timid tide]

I meant 2, you know that

[celest remnant]

Oh I got a few that will get you going

[green gust]

I like counter strike

[scenic lake]

league and val is a lineup from hell

[green gust]

Which is kinda similair to valorant right

[timid tide]

You know Im not talking about player count either

[velvet canopy]

i need to play blair witch on vr

[green gust]

Always wanted to try this game

[velvet canopy]

i played it most my childhood but i got bored

[willow minnow]

and I know that, just pointing the original out as well.

Fricken Destiny Rising is better then D2 and it's a mobile game!!

[velvet canopy]

i agree, i uninstalled both and im not looking back

[green gust]

Fair me too i used to play 1.6 and source

[velvet canopy]

GOAT

[timid tide]

Destiny 2 is quite literally so bad now that it is honestly objectively worse than Destiny 1 and Rising

[celest remnant]

Play Cry of Fear in VR, it's even free

[green gust]

Heck yea we still here bro

[velvet canopy]

oh boi

[jaunty pelican]

yoo

[scenic lake]

well destiny 1 was good so

[sour lagoon]

One of my clan mates really thinks that bungie improved with destiny 2 they’re just saying that cause they wanted more d1 content

[green gust]

@velvet canopy do you also know urban terror

[willow minnow]

dude I spent prob close to 600 bucks on the game.
Including everything I bought, DLCs, etc.

[velvet canopy]

sadly not

[celest remnant]

90% positive on steam btw

[scenic lake]

strand hunter pvp was an improvement

[green gust]

It was kinda similair to cs but it was basically red vs blue team and you could jump on walls and stuff and kinda wall run

[sour lagoon]

Fk the PvP completely 😭

[scenic lake]

it was so fun

[sour lagoon]

I used to love it but

Skill based matchmaking

[scenic lake]

i haven’t played in forever idk what it’s like now

[timid tide]

Howd it feel to lose half of that because they sunset the game halfway through

[green gust]

I never hesrd of it

[celest remnant]

Also @velvet canopy this is touted as a pretty scary game but heres a fun secret:It's made in the source engine

[green gust]

Which game

[willow minnow]

sucky, but I already recovered the money, just took some time.

[sour lagoon]

Aim assist is literally a stat on destiny weapons p sure

[green gust]

Source enginee is great

[sour lagoon]

When u look in the app

[celest remnant]

Cry of Fear

[green gust]

Ive heard of that

[wild thistle]

Yo guys what the best Boots and gloves that I can use for my samurai?

[timid tide]

Well, good for you, bungie's management cannot be blamed on their owners though, that's for sure

[celest remnant]

Yeah it rocks, it's just funny to think that Cry of Fear is made in the same engine as TF2 lol

[scenic lake]

whatever you think looks cool

[green gust]

And as counter strike

[timid tide]

They somehow fail no matter who they're working under, I'm beginning to think it's not the people that own them

[willow minnow]

Sonys prob mad lol

[green gust]

Valve needs to give us left 4 dead 3

[scenic lake]

yeah

[timid tide]

Wonder if they fell for the bait that it was activision's fault

[fast hollow]

Hey guys, I’m headed to the server. I’m really trying to get some help getting rid of the fire giant if anybody can help that’ll be great.

[scenic lake]

but valve is allergic to the number 3

[sour lagoon]

Back 4 blood was cheeks

[celest remnant]

I mean THAT one you can see the engine bleeding through for one sec

[sour lagoon]

I wanna say world war z was better

[celest remnant]

mmmm old counterstrike graphics

[green gust]

This is cry of feae?

[wild thistle]

Bro i’m not looking for I’m looking for strong

[celest remnant]

yes

[willow minnow]

Warmind was fine, Curse of Osiris was bad, but we've managed to get below curse when it comes to player count

[green gust]

I need to play it

[willow minnow]

all time low man.

[scenic lake]

gloves and boots will not make you stronger

[fast hollow]

I’m able to get the fire giant at half health, but that’s it. I just need help.

[green gust]

Do yk jedi outcast

[sour lagoon]

Dear Maria count me in?

[timid tide]

Yeah, Bungie is so good with player retention /s

[celest remnant]

This is also cry of fear

[celest remnant]

yes

[green gust]

Looks good

[timid tide]

Should mention, Marathon is doing D2 numbers at the moment

Indie studio ig

[green gust]

I was playing it recently

[willow minnow]

thats just the neighbor's kid.

[scenic lake]

kinda looks like the angel from mandela catalogue

[green gust]

I like it

[wild thistle]

Are you sure? So why a lot of people use the rakshasa boots and gloves

[velvet canopy]

that makes it scarier honestly

[celest remnant]

You're not gonna believe me when I say this

[green gust]

I love star wars bruh

[sour lagoon]

Forsaken was goated

[celest remnant]

but this is actually a bait and switch point from cry of fear

[green gust]

Im a big fan

[waxen nacelle]

hey guys i was just playing dead sopace 2 who thinks thats cool

[celest remnant]

they jumpscare you and its just the neighbors kid

[waxen nacelle]

that game scared the hell out of me and i deleted it in like 20 mins

[green gust]

I never played it sadly bit dead space 1 was awesome

[scenic lake]

oh yeah i forgot about those they’re pretty unique

[willow minnow]

the face I feel is more scary then anythign else and idk why

[celest remnant]

holy old name nice to see you alejandro

[sour lagoon]

I had high hopes for shadowkeep and it’s poo water from there on out

[celest remnant]

and ye 100%

[scenic lake]

they increase damage dealt and taken

[waxen nacelle]

hey friend

[green gust]

You should play ps1 harry potter its the scariest game of all

[sour lagoon]

Let’s make players regrind all their levels every two months and make all their loot accumulated useless 2x a year

[celest remnant]

I'll explain:The uncanny valley is a concept where an object LOOKS human to your eyes but your brain registers the "isn't" subconciously

[timid tide]

Yall ever realize you did an assignment you weren't looking forward to forever ago and genuinely thank your past self for doing it for you

[sour lagoon]

I’m not in school

[green gust]

Yea that shi is scary fr

[willow minnow]

is there a word for that? Similar to the Anamoly game?

[wild thistle]

Ya the thing I don’t have the DLC so I want replacement for those this way I asking

[timid tide]

I'm in college, realized that I did something due at the end of the semester all the way at the beginning

[celest remnant]

Uncanny Valley. Ya know what's REALLY scary about it?

It's a biological imperative we as human beings have and have had since ancient times.

[willow minnow]

oh I thought that was the name of the game

[green gust]

Its just scary cuz it looks off

And it has scary vibes cuz of it

[sour lagoon]

For some reason this just triggered a bad dream I had about going back to school

[green gust]

Same in old multiplayer games

[celest remnant]

This is scary, because it implies there was something there to inspire the uncanny feeling in the first place

[green gust]

Play old cod online in a empty server it feels very off aswell

[willow minnow]

wait till you see amamoly humans.

[jovial niche]

why duz nintendo hate us so much

[celest remnant]

something that looked like us but fundamentally wasn't

[jovial niche]

[green gust]

Whats that

[stray ridge]

why do all npcs call me foul tarnished like what abt me is foul

[timid tide]

other species of humans

[green gust]

Your a tarbished

[timid tide]

Homo sapiens weren't the only ones for a very long time

[celest remnant]

Possible, but you never rule out the X factor in anything

[stray ridge]

why are tarnished foul?

[timid tide]

Ockham's Razor

[celest remnant]

It could've been other species of humans, it could've been skinwalkers

[sour lagoon]

My sis offered to give me her switch which I was psyched about I shouldn’t have brought up “but I’m gonna need a switch 2 for duskbloods”

[celest remnant]

We do not know, so we do not drop our guard lol

[willow minnow]

basically mimics that look human but aren't.

[green gust]

They are still humans to me thats why i always see it as bs when they say we existed for only 300k years.. meanwhile homo erectus existing 3 miljonair yrs ago:

Typos

[timid tide]

Point is, it is almost definitely just other species of humans that were hostile to us

[green gust]

Auto correct

[celest remnant]

My point is dropping your guard entirely on anything is a bad idea lol

[willow minnow]

look up on youtube "Alternate Watch".

VERY unsettling

[celest remnant]

Do YOU wanna be the guy who said "nah skinwalkers ain't real" when they eat your neighbors

[timid tide]

If we coexisted with them for the majority of our existence, we'd learn to feel off when we see something that looks mostly like us, but has a few key features

[celest remnant]

I choose rather than to commit to either to maintain the possibility while not falling to the delusion

[green gust]

Issue is theres proof of us breeding with neanthertals

[sour lagoon]

Theyre like immigrants that are gifted with grace and everyone is racist

[timid tide]

Id trust the uncanny valley if it felt warranted. It doesn't matter whether or not it's a skinwalker, the reaction will probably be the same

[raven canopy]

Douse anyone have the golem hands from the dlc I can have I’m on PlayStation

[celest remnant]

Yeah basically. If it feels off, get away for sure.

Skinwalkers, or your neighbor acting off

Uncanny valley when you boil away all the bull is basically your instincts hammering in your head that you need to do SOMETHING

[sour lagoon]

I hate that Disney pretty much said “We will never make Mara Jade canon”

Fkn twats

[celest remnant]

SOMETHING about the current situation is a danger

[timid tide]

Some people are into things that make them feel scared, and Im sure not every neanderthal would trigger that uncanny valley anyways.

[scenic lake]

those are unique theres not many other armors like that if any, there are some that do more damage with specific attacks and things like that but not just a straight up damage boost at least from what i remember

[celest remnant]

No way to know unfortunately, we've never found the uh, "frozen ape man" trope just enough bones to give us an idea of bone structure

[timid tide]

People are weird, theyre inevitably going to do things that dont make sense if you dont account for nuance

[celest remnant]

Even weirder back then. Our brains grew because our posture changed and afforded us the room for the brain to do so.

[timid tide]

Yeah, Neanderthals could have very well looked like normal people, and we just found some really messed up skeletons because they were more resistant

[wild thistle]

Oh I see so I just stay with samurai one and that’s it

[green gust]

I just think its wild how homo erectus was able to be sea fairers potentially discover fire milion yrs before homo sapiens arrived so how come they say when it comes to homo sapiens we learned all those things much later? Maybe im missing sum

[buoyant yew]

Haha erectus

[timid tide]

Or another point, look at the skeleton of a bird, the birds look nothing like their skeletons

[green gust]

Same with bears

[celest remnant]

Fun Scientific Theory:We don't want to open the door, because once we do we have no control over who steps through.

[timid tide]

They mightve had thick flabs of cartilage that made their foreheads look more similar to ours

[buoyant yew]

What door

[sour lagoon]

What

[green gust]

Supossedly Neanderthalers looked very similair to us

And i mean to Europeans in allt of ways

[timid tide]

Exactly, and if this is the case, its no wonder we share at least some dna with them

[green gust]

We 100% do

[timid tide]

Its not anywhere near a large percentage regardless, it probably didnt happen too often

[green gust]

They would not know the destiction between homo sapien and neanderthal if it was never explained to em like us is what i mean

Idk

[celest remnant]

Ya know what the SCARIEST part of the Dark Forest theory actually is?

[green gust]

What

[timid tide]

I mean there were 5-9 other species of humans living with us at some point, we'd definitely get an uncanny valley feeling because of that

Wasn't just neanderthals

[tawny imp]

I forgot how annoying sir Gideon is when u dont kill him first try

[green gust]

With some for sure like the hobbits

[celest remnant]

It's not contact with another alien civilization, it's actually that if a METI signal hits a system and it triggers that system to send "Von Neumann probes" to us for an automated extermination

(self replicating robots)

[whole walrus]

the cpu nerd guy

[green gust]

What do u mean

[timid tide]

Homo Floresiensis, for example, those guys trigger uncanny valley

[green gust]

You also had those hobbits

[celest remnant]

There could literally be a system somewhere in our universe already in place to exterminate biological civilizations that begin broadcasting to the stars

[green gust]

By who?

Robots?

[timid tide]

Homo Floresiensis.

[celest remnant]

Who knows, the dark forest theory essentially goes like this:The universe is a dark forest full of hunters, and prey. You don't yell because then, you've given everyone else your location

[whole walrus]

yeah sorry about that i can stop if you want, just cant let them get too powerful

[celest remnant]

You have no control on if a hunter, or prey finds you first

[narrow brook]

Logic u have Xbox? I want to fight u

[celest remnant]

O dp mpt

I do not

[narrow brook]

Nobody to fight😒

[celest remnant]

grab a phone, download mtga, and build a deck

[green gust]

Ok one thing i will say is this we send robots into space with information of how to reach earth if another highly avanced civilisation sees that it could be dangerous if they have the capabilities of space travel

[celest remnant]

We don't need robots for this, we do it already with sound

[tawny imp]

Sir Gideon lowkey harder than godfrey

[green gust]

We do both

[timid tide]

We better get worried then, because we have sent out radio transmissions in hopes that they find another planet

[green gust]

Do yk abt the death of the universe theory

[celest remnant]

One costs alot more than the other with much less efficient results because our propulsion systems aren't at that point

[timid tide]

Which one

[green gust]

Yea but the robot thibg i mean was quite a while ago ngl

[celest remnant]

Oh I'm talking about cost analysis now

I am a nerd dude I constantly think about shooting things into space

Ya wanna know how much it costs to stop a nuclear warhead? Go ahead, I've calculated it

[green gust]

If the universe is flat and truly infinite it will reach a certain point of stagnation cuz the universe will expand so fast atoms will be vaporized making life impossible everywhere in the universe

[timid tide]

Big Freeze, Big Crunch, Big Rip, Big Bounce?

[green gust]

Yes

[carmine anvil]

anyone got runes for a real one

[celest remnant]

Right now we use ground based interceptors. Launching one costs 110 million out of pocket.

[timid tide]

Big Rip

[celest remnant]

#how-to-access-trade-channels

[narrow brook]

Nobody is on for PvP😡

[green gust]

I kinda think thats impossible if u think of the universe how could it ever die up like that righg?

[celest remnant]

Do you want the actual 2 possible things endangering our world from the cosmos

[timid tide]

Leading theories are big freeze and big crunch

[green gust]

Whats big crunch again

[green gust]

Sire

[celest remnant]

They're likely referring to the 2nd of the 2

There's a supermassive blackhole near us

It's huge, and moving

[timid tide]

Either the universe expands until all stars are too far to heat anything else up, and they die out entirely, or the universe eventually contracts back into a singularity, restarting the cycle

[celest remnant]

The first was the heat death of the universe. Our sun is enormous, when a star goes white dwarf, the exothermic reaction is like a million nukes on a SMALL star.

[narrow brook]

Goodnight guys I have a j*b interview tomorrow byes byes sleep tight

Are you sure

[green gust]

I personally think even if u coulf reach the edge of the universe theres more stars there and other systems

Cuz otherwise reality is kinda broken if u think abt it

[timid tide]

Heat death is the idea that eventually the universe's total exothermic output will reach 0, freezing everything

[celest remnant]

The universe is very likely infinite, think about it if creative design were a thing what efficient creator would go "boy I should make a gas giant that can't support life and is so far away it will never be colonized ever"

[timid tide]

Absolute 0 across the entire universe, that is to say

[celest remnant]

Yes, after the sun goes supernova, and kills any life near it

[timid tide]

Which will probably happen

[celest remnant]

sure, 16 billion years from now theoretically

[green gust]

Do you also believe the heat death theory?

[celest remnant]

It's a theory

there's not really belief to put into it because I will never truly know

[green gust]

I find it hard to beleive

[celest remnant]

I don't, it's been scientifically captured already

We can watch stars explode right now

and the sun is also an impossibly large star

[green gust]

Yes but more or less everything we see is assumptions

[timid tide]

Universe death theories are always way out, we will all be dead before they happen to be honest

[celest remnant]

Exactly why I can't BELIEVE in them so much as keep them in my head

It's like with the skinwalkers thing I said earlier

[timid tide]

Exactly, its just impossible to know, even though we know possibilities

[celest remnant]

I don't think they're real, but taking the possibility out means if my neighbor ever starts acting weird, I die a terrible death

[green gust]

I think even if we are still around by then or our descendants we would prob find a way to survive

[timid tide]

We see that the universe is beginning to slow in its rate of expansion, the theory there is that eventually, density will start to pull everything together once the expansion rate slows enough

[green gust]

If we didnt evolve into less inteligent

Thats our biggest enemies prob evolution

[green gust]

Not entirely true some say its going faster and faster each second

[timid tide]

The earth and all of its surroundings will cease to exist entirely before the death of the universe, most likely

[celest remnant]

Our biggest problems are energy and our own selfish desire for more of it NOW

We need energy but we'll also mutilate our planet to get more of it

[green gust]

We will be somewhere else by then

[celest remnant]

this is great in the short run, not great in the long term when ecosystems begin dying

[green gust]

If we want more we should find a way to explore space

[timid tide]

New research theorizes otherwise, but we dont know

[celest remnant]

No, we need to harness alternative sources

[median lily]

hi

[celest remnant]

Take a guess why you don't see nuclear plants in every major city

[median lily]

okay bye

[celest remnant]

Go ahead, you get two

[spark vine]

Do you know what’s required to explore space?

[green gust]

I also saw someone say some universes were too big for their age during the start of the big bang

[green gust]

Kind of i read alot abt it and the challenges we face in order to achieve it

[spark vine]

How would anyone even know this?

[celest remnant]

Oh heck I see a bro

@bitter lodge hey ya know I never asked, real name here or rost?

[green gust]

Cuz we can see back in time when we look at other systems so many light years away

[spark vine]

I mean I was there but you guys weren’t 🤷‍♂️

[celest remnant]

I thought back and felt bad as hellllll for basically doxxing you without asking first

[timid tide]

The unfortunate thing is how many points of no return we already hit.

Even if we completely stopped polluting right now, the coral reefs are dying, we're losing over half a meter of shoreline globally, temperatures will continue to rise, and massive ecosystems will soon be uninhabitable for wildlife

[bitter lodge]

I’ve said my name here all good

[celest remnant]

Gotcha, wanted to make sure lol, how ya been?

[timid tide]

This is just in the next century

Until we find a way to go net negative, the planet is going to decay

All we can do is slow it down

[green gust]

This is why we all know what the answrr is we gotta become space fairing species in order for humanity to survive

[celest remnant]

Reefs can be repaired, we have substrates we can introduce to do so the main problem there is less pollution, and more invasive life due to fishing practices

[green gust]

Its a natural process tho

[timid tide]

If we have the potential to terraform a planet to make it inhabitable, it will be easier to do that to earth, just saying

[celest remnant]

(A single sea urchin can eat a massive amount of coral ina day)

Like we can fix all of this goob if we turn it around now and we're trying

but half of us aren't onboard

[timid tide]

Speed is the part that matters, what we've done in a hundred years should take more than millions

[celest remnant]

Also if you guys EVER go diving I encourage you

you see patches of sea urchins you kill the buggers and take em in to eat

they taste good grilled, and you're doing the local ecosystem a favor by nabbing a few

[spark vine]

Kill em sure, eat em, nah

[timid tide]

We can already make progress, its just that the powers that be will kill everyone so they can die the elite

[green gust]

We should become multi planetary either way

[celest remnant]

If ya don't wanna eat them, what you do is really juice up their insides and scatter it in the watter for the fish

then toss the body back on the coral

[green gust]

Its our next big step

[celest remnant]

(The calciums in the urchin will feed it)

[green gust]

We will prob see us go to mars

[stone meteor]

We just need Pokemon

[timid tide]

Maybe in a few hundred or thousand years, we cannot afford to devalue the earth

[green gust]

Bro that will too late

[celest remnant]

We're already moving towards this

[celest remnant]

far from too late

[green gust]

By then yellowstone volcano will have erupted

[stone meteor]

What about the greenstone volcano

[celest remnant]

Ain't you supposed to be on mt. silver

[green gust]

We are in a race against time for when nature will go its course of chaos

[timid tide]

We will be able to solve most of earth's problems if we can make other planets habitable, if we just make the solution to destroy a planet and leave we just screw everything over

[green gust]

We cant stop nature

[stone meteor]

Pikachu was begging me to take him to New York

[timid tide]

Then how can we change an entire planet we aren't on

[celest remnant]

Quite the contrary

Human beings are adept at stopping nature

[timid tide]

That logically makes no sense

We are literally the nature we are trying to stop

[green gust]

Its not that hard to do in theory

[spark vine]

This reminds me of when in sci fi movies there’s some scientist that’s like warning everyone but no one listens and everything goes wrong exactly the way the scientist predicted

[celest remnant]

DARPA is already working on cloud seeding programs for farmers

(This is literally weather manipulation)

[timid tide]

Then "in theory" its not as hard to make a habitable planet more habitable

[cosmic moth]

Give me an album recommendation people.

[timid tide]

If you can go from "nobody can naturally live here" to "life can naturally live here", you can go from "life can live here" to "life can definitely live here"

[green gust]

Idk when we look at the issues we face today sea levels rising etc ice caps melting this is all happening cuz we are in the end of the ice age and then volcanos will erupt and a new ice age will happen and the cycle continues

[sour lagoon]

Someone just tried comparing Mahoraga to Doomsday

Like

[cosmic moth]

Is that a metal gear reference

[green gust]

All u need is carbon dyoxide oxygen water etc

We could in theory do it

With water bacteria will form and oxygen

[celest remnant]

No, DARPA is an independent defense contractor that does quite a large amount of research work for the US government.

I've worked for them about 4 times this year

[timid tide]

You'll never believe what we already have here in droves

[cosmic moth]

Yeah, i know. Just a little jolly joke cuz they get referenced in mgs1

[cosmic moth]

Oh cool

[celest remnant]

holy do they?

I ain't played mgs1 in a minute

[cosmic moth]

Yeah the darpa chief gets killed and snake gets solid

[green gust]

So in theory if we could transport it to mars lets say we could teraform it another potentiële solution is nukes as musk said

[vague harbor]

Hello everyone

[timid tide]

Im not saying its impossible to make other planets habitable, but why would that be the more sensible option over using that tech to solve our problems here

[green gust]

Maybe creating is easierr then fixing?

[celest remnant]

He wanted to use nukes to raise the temp to a habitable level which is absolutely stupid

Don't uh, listen to scientific theory from elon musk please that hurts my soul

[timid tide]

Musk is one of the least scientific people alive, if you trust what he says at face value youd have to be dumber than even him

[spark vine]

What about radiation

[green gust]

No but its a theory

[celest remnant]

Literally

[timid tide]

He believes that writing more lines of code means you're better at it

As a cyber security major, NO

[green gust]

Yall do realize nukes dont cause as much of this right? Its not as fallput protrays nukes

[celest remnant]

It's a bad theory the payload you'd need to sustain the temperature of a planet long enough to generate enough greenhouse gasses would turn it into an irradiated hellhole

[sinful raft]

Are the other soulsborne games fun? As much as I love Elden ring, I have it platinumed and 100%, and it’s getting kinda stale. I’ve played it for 2 years

[celest remnant]

Optimization over flare

[timid tide]

You do realize how many nukes will be necessary, right?

[green gust]

We have thousands

[timid tide]

Millions or billions.

[green gust]

Fr?

[celest remnant]

How long are you expecting changing a planets ecosystem to take man

yes lol

[timid tide]

We need more than we could conceive to heat a whole earth sized frozen planet up and keep it that hot

[spark vine]

Does he know?

[green gust]

Hubdreds to thousands of yrs

[cosmic moth]

Yes 100% but they're older so less polished and linear. But many of the older Fromsoft games still hold up very well. Also there are Lies of P, khazan and other souls-likes out there

[sour lagoon]

Dominos slice sauce is fkn gross

[celest remnant]

About a hundred and lemme tell you, nobody is funding nuking a planet we're also trying to get to sustain life for that long

[green gust]

The nuclear fallput only lasts around 14 days the core of explosion may be dangerous for a long time tho

[timid tide]

We will be dead long before that solution comes to fruition in that case

[celest remnant]

they stopped the god rod project because of money

[green gust]

No but they will when it comes to using it on earth

[spark vine]

Now imagine that all over a planet due to terraforming

[willow minnow]

I have succumbed to the usage of the Rune Farm. T-T

It's just too fun to stop.

[green gust]

We will see the start of the process maybe

[celest remnant]

Here's how you would ACTUALLY raise the temperature of a planet:Build a reflective disk to utilize the stars around the planet

[timid tide]

The manufacturing of all those nukes alone will probably cost us decades to centuries of borrowed time

We dont have centuries

[green gust]

If humanity could put aside their drama and function as one humanity we can achieve anything

[timid tide]

We arent Warhammer 40k Orks

[celest remnant]

We have centuries barring the uh, political turmoil going on lol, the planet isn't dying THAT quickly lordy

[sour lagoon]

Might be good on a white pizza

[green gust]

For super earth

[celest remnant]

the planet very likely won't ever die before any of us

[timid tide]

At our current rate its gonna cost a lot of people if we seriously want to manufacture a billion nukes to heat a planet up

[green gust]

If we survive the next few centuries i think we will at the very least become multi planetary

[celest remnant]

That's a stupid theory and elon is a moron I promise you, nobody is going to back him for that one

[timid tide]

Thats the stupid theory that Im trying to explain just how wrong it is

[celest remnant]

We'll likely get there before then, we literally have a moon to test this on

[green gust]

Depends on how big the nukes are also

[timid tide]

Nukes to heat a planet up are probably the worst idea a person has ever thought of

[green gust]

Look at tsar bomba

[celest remnant]

Reflective disk to utilize the stars around a planet

it's that simple, you can make a station with this function we've done it already

[cosmic moth]

Violence or explosions aren't always the solution

[celest remnant]

The main grounder is money

[green gust]

In the universe it always is

[timid tide]

Its gonna take much more than that

[green gust]

We wouldnt be here without explosioms

🤣

[timid tide]

Which, guess what, will probably take less material, less money, and produce less carbon than manufacturing the sheer amount of nukes required to make Mars warm

[cosmic moth]

Man made explosions are comically small compared to the cosmic explosions that make things happen

[green gust]

Im not saying its the best way of doing it btw the first one j said was the best one

[green yew]

The universe literally started from an explosion twin

[celest remnant]

Indeed, not to mention, you won't need a consistent stream of them

once the project is complete, that's that, you just need staff to man the station

[timid tide]

Its not even one, its just an idiot's uninformed idea

[topaz heron]

One Million Royal Revenants

[cosmic moth]

Peep my message above you. I meant that nukes and man made stuff aren't the solution

[timid tide]

Having the tech to terraform a planet means we can just do that to earth much easier, and probably sooner than terraforming a planet

Using the tech we have, we cannot terraform a planet, but we can start fixing earth

[still wren]

i cant wait for ubisofts next ai game

[green gust]

The only thing nukes has is it releases gases

[green yew]

Yess they are the solution!!!
Did you forget what our GOAT Oppenheimer said?
"Now I'm become God, the destroyer of worlds"

[cosmic moth]

Hype and aura moments

[green gust]

But yea its kinda dumb

[dreamy jungle]

Hell fuh no

[timid tide]

Not as much as just using normal bombs

[green yew]

Btw when he said this, phonk music was playing in background, I'm not lying....I was there

[timid tide]

Its not even the best kind of bomb to heat a planet up and keep it warm

[cosmic moth]

Yeah and then he started to mog everyone in the room

[still wren]

ubisoft is gonna lead the charge in ai slop gaming

[dreamy jungle]

Ubisoft used to be fire now they ice

[cosmic moth]

Grok will spear head the division

[green gust]

Not true tho

[dreamy jungle]

This is actually factual

[green gust]

Nukes would produce alot morr then regular explosions

[fervent zodiac]

[timid tide]

Literally is, most of the carbon footprint a nuke has is making the nuke

[dreamy jungle]

it's a nuke it's supposed to be BOOM

[cosmic moth]

Kinda on brand for Big boss over here to be advocating for nukes lmao

[green gust]

Bro how do you come by this?

[spark vine]

I think that’s what he’s been going for, otherwise these takes are silly

[green gust]

How could a normal explosion

[cosmic moth]

Maybe

[green gust]

Ever release as much as a nuke

A nuke has radiation which is a gas

[timid tide]

Do you know just how clean nukes are?

[cosmic moth]

Lets send two guys with lighters to mars

[timid tide]

Not a greenhouse gas

It is not going to have the same effect

[green gust]

Which gas does regular explosions use

[celest remnant]

This is not a narrow list many gasses are highly reactive

[spark vine]

I’ll do it for a 30 oz steak and mashed potatoes

[cosmic moth]

What about a rocket filled to the brim with volcanic pots?

[celest remnant]

butanes one off the top of my head, propane too

[timid tide]

If anything, the radiation a nuke creates would shield the planet from the sun

[cosmic moth]

That's a good deal

[green gust]

Hmm

[timid tide]

Carbon

[celest remnant]

There's also ones that don't react with an exothermic reaction and instead, have a chemical reaction

[timid tide]

Do you know what a nuclear winter is?

[green gust]

Yes orc

Ofcourse *

[cosmic moth]

orc moment

[green gust]

Lmao srry

[timid tide]

A full scale nuclear war on earth would lower earth's temperature by a ton, we'd literally just freeze Mars more if we used nukes

[cosmic moth]

You're good Boss

[celest remnant]

Oh Sulfur Dioxide

yeah that's the one I was trying to think of

[green gust]

The nuclear winter doesnt stay for very long

[cosmic moth]

You can do some CQC on me boss

Beat my ass like we were on mother base

[timid tide]

Sulfur dioxide, carbon dioxide, traditional explosives are almost entirely going to release greenhouse gas

[celest remnant]

yeah heavily nasty gas that turns into h2so3 in your lungs thanks to reacting with the moisture

[celest remnant]

sulfur dioxide isn't an explosive it's chemically reactive

[green gust]

Staff member has died

[celest remnant]

if you breathe it in, you're going to burn from the inside

[green gust]

If tgis is the case then musk is an absolute dummy

[celest remnant]

Sulfur Trioxide is its more dangerous and aggressively reactive cousin

[timid tide]

The gasses that result from the traditional explosive exploding*

[green gust]

LMAO

[cosmic moth]

He's a wittle baby with billions

[celest remnant]

Really depends on what the payload used as a reactant

"traditional explosives" don't really have a definition either

[timid tide]

Tnt in particular would make carbon monoxide, and solid carbon

[celest remnant]

c4 doesn't put off gasses

[timid tide]

Thats no good

[green gust]

What abt an atomic bomb

[timid tide]

We'll burn ourselves before we heat mars up, thats the issue

[celest remnant]

Atomic bombs are detonated via a process called fission

really basic layman explanation:We excite a bunch of atoms by closing a plutonium core, then rapidly compress it with explosives

[timid tide]

A fission explosion does not produce near as much of a greenhouse gas compared to its tonnage

[cosmic moth]

Ranked astro physics discussion

[timid tide]

Its a very huge reason we want to use fission to create energy in place of coal

[green gust]

Would it also create nuclear winter

[celest remnant]

That's correct the dangers are A:The initial shockwave and B:Fallout being caught in the wind

[green gust]

No right

[celest remnant]

No, that's a world war scale event that requires ash blocking out the sun

[hot spear]

yo, is there any dex boosting armor piece appart of the okina mask?

[green gust]

Yea if atomic bombs were used like this

[vague harbor]

Hello everyone

[timid tide]

^ Volcano eruptions, particularly the really bad ones, cause a temperature drop in a very similar way

[cosmic moth]

What kinda bomb is that

[hot spear]

what do you mean

[celest remnant]

Theoretically. If yellowstone ever erupts this is supposedly what may happen.

[cosmic moth]

Inside joke heh

[green gust]

It will erupt 100%

[hot spear]

huh

[coral urchin]

Don’t think so

[celest remnant]

we'd know months in advance

[copper spindle]

Bai

[blazing lark]

Hi everyone

[celest remnant]

we keep seismic monitoring stations across the country for events like that

[green gust]

It shows more activity now

[timid tide]

Mount Tambora's eruption in 1815 created the year without a summer through 1816

[cosmic moth]

Like 3 people have been talking about nuking mars for 15+ minutes now, that is the joke

[green gust]

Same with italys super vulcano

[celest remnant]

Likely but we also weren't using state of the art equipment back in 1815

[green gust]

Cuz of temperatures rising

[cosmic moth]

Metal gear rising

[modest path]

dang, that NPC fight was peak, holy

[celest remnant]

We use second generation markov chains and historical data to literally predict the weather with 98% accuracy

[timid tide]

Its more just something people noticed back then, this day and age we'll be able to tell nearly the exact effect

[celest remnant]

Oh yeah that's why I said months in advance

[green gust]

Yes we couldnt predict such storms would happen

Nature can be random

[blazing lark]

Can I join your conversation too?

[green gust]

We dont know it 100%

[celest remnant]

Except it isn't, it just looks random

[cosmic moth]

Yuh for sure

[celest remnant]

That's the magic man

[celest remnant]

You most certainly can

[timid tide]

Scientists are saying its gonna be thousands of years, "more activity" doesn't mean we're going to die in a year

[blazing lark]

@celest remnant Thanks

[cosmic moth]

My idea is to send a rocket full of warm gas to mars

[green gust]

Well i mean maybe a storm happens without us knowing beforehand look at the storm in spain storm dana

[cosmic moth]

Maybe even 2 rockets

[timid tide]

We can tell "more" activity by like 0.002% with our current technology

[celest remnant]

I should clarify:The united states has advanced monitoring technologies for this sort of thing

Tehre's reasons for this

namely, especially in my state, the fact that tornadoes will casually just snatch half a city up

We have rapidly adapted to a land that wants to kill us in a similar manner to australia

[green gust]

But if u look at timeline of when it erupts its roughly every 600k-650k yrs and its now overdue to erupt again judging on earlier behaviours of the vulcano trough out its lifecycle

[green gust]

Oh yea for sure

I believe that

[celest remnant]

Many areas are without this sort of tech

in those instances you are correct, nature is very random

but my whole point of telling you this was to contradict your statement about us not being able to beat nature

because holy heck man we definently can

[merry fox]

Chat

[green gust]

I just never saw a storm like that in my life

[timid tide]

Again, we can tell the trend as well as the current state with our technology, plus, its up to 800,000 years. Yellowstone only erupted 631,000 years ago out of those 800,000 possible years. Our monitoring technology is advanced enough to know its not going to erupt soon.

[green gust]

6 meters high waves

[merry fox]

Why are everdark balancers so cool

Or is it just me?

[green gust]

But it could change in 10 yrs

[celest remnant]

Nope, the fight is basically art

especially the busic

Same goes for Weapon Bequeathed Harmonia

[green gust]

The behaviour of the vulcano could change

[celest remnant]

(it's beautifult o look at, the fight isn't super hard though)

[merry fox]

[timid tide]

A process that takes hundreds of thousands of years does not necessarily flip flop in just 10, seismologists wouldn't claim we're thousands of years away if that was the case.

[celest remnant]

I could fight WBH a thousand times because it's a chill fight that's super pretty to watch and the music is an absolute bop

[merry fox]

Lovely name
Goobiest of all snooberts goobert

[celest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/balancers-weapon-bequeathed-harmonia-slam-gif-6669580568220397721

Hooo yeah, gorgeous

it's like watching a dancer in motion but violent

[timid tide]

It would be a catastrophe beyond anything even final destination could come up with if Yellowstone erupted thousands of years before we expected it to, just to be clear

[celest remnant]

Possible but maybe not, a big thing I have always thought is that some billionaire, somewhere, scared of dying, has made the solution to all of our worst problems and hidden each away

here's to hoping weelon trusk has something to remove the ash from the atmosphere

[fervent zodiac]

me when i found out the sun will explode in thousands of years

[timid tide]

They honestly probably do, and just want to wait until enough peasants die to use it

[celest remnant]

Yeah literally I can't fault billionaires for prepping

[green gust]

Indeed it would its just scary to think abt

[celest remnant]

if I had that sort of money I am going vault tec babbbbbbyeeee

[timid tide]

Its pretty clear from how billionaires act that they legitimately would burn the world away to be the last ones standing

[fervent zodiac]

he probably has a second sun somewhere

[velvet canopy]

i feel like dying from it is better than surviving it

T_T

[celest remnant]

I mean I would too, there's a mutal respect in that department my qualm with billionaires isn't that they want to live

it's that they're morons

You spend your money in the stupidest of ways and don't expect me to facepalm?

[timid tide]

Then you arent enough of a sociopath to be a billionaire, congrats

[green gust]

Im a bilionaire

[velvet canopy]

i feel like thats the result of boredom

[timid tide]

Literally the only way you can be a billionaire is if you genuinely hate humanity enough to the point you would be a main cause of suffering for all living things just because you feel like it

[celest remnant]

Like I ask the billionaires of the world this:You have experts in scientific fields and rather than leaving the job to them and dumping your money in their pockets

you think you need your nose in everything

[velvet canopy]

i mean they just know how to abuse a system, and have the money to do so

[coral urchin]

4 am discord is something else

[green gust]

Fr tho

[celest remnant]

One of the biggest abuses of the tax system is keeping your assets liquid

[green gust]

Its 5 here

So u must be in england

[velvet canopy]

taking loans against shares

T_T

[celest remnant]

Can't tax stocks I haven't sold, this holds up too for now

[timid tide]

They arent just cracking a code, they literally have to have some division they are actually enslaving to make that much money, and another in which they literally just pay governments to let them treat people terribly

[coral urchin]

You live in Central Europe?

[green gust]

Yes

The netherlands

Your in england?

[velvet canopy]

if u have like 6 figures in stocks just take loans against them lmao

[timid tide]

They make that kind of money by abusing people and spend that money so its legal to abuse more people

[velvet canopy]

tax free income right there

[celest remnant]

Literally. You take loans and then you know what you do when that loan comes up?

[coral urchin]

I’m on vacation yeah

I live in Iceland

[celest remnant]

You borrow against another stock with a bigger loan to pay that one off

[velvet canopy]

and the money wheel keeps turning

[green gust]

[blazing berry]

twitter is evil

[green gust]

Delete it

[celest remnant]

The messed up part is this is legal

[timid tide]

And I mean, you know the reason they haven't made legal walls for this

[sacred stratus]

Yall say this but wouldn’t hesitate to become one if given the chance

[celest remnant]

Lobbyists and class warfare obv

[velvet canopy]

welp what can you do, how else can the rich get away with not paying taxes

[sacred stratus]

Billionaire hate is just envy

[velvet canopy]

but tbf

i get it

[celest remnant]

Sometimes

[velvet canopy]

if you had 500mil in stocks

you wouldnt want to pay 250 in taxes

[celest remnant]

Other times its just genuine outrage

[still wren]

i shall now begin to harness the willpower to get up, walk up 2 flights of stairs and take my first shower in 3 days

[timid tide]

If you seriously think I wouldnt take a billion dollars that I didnt have to abuse anyone for, you'd be insane. Would I enslave millions for that much money though? No.

[celest remnant]

Shuwa stanky

[sacred stratus]

Mostly tbh

[celest remnant]

Try a bath shuwa

[celest remnant]

I mean for me it definently is

but this stems from my thinking they are idiots

(and being correct in many, many instances)

[sacred stratus]

How do billionaires enslave millions

[velvet canopy]

not paying them enough to wander off

[sacred stratus]

By making companies and gaining capital?

Is entrepreneurship enslavement

[celest remnant]

it can be

(multi-level marketing)

MLM scams are really nasty because people often fail to actually read the contracts they sign

have fun selling herbalife while the legbreakers threaten to take your house for failing your sales quota

[timid tide]

By using the various laws around the world, they can legally enslave people in some countries, many of which they or one of their buddies indirectly own, and with the money they have, they can lobby against worker's rights in nations and states where it is illegal, essentially cheapening their own cost of labor and maximizing production while doing so.

[velvet canopy]

LMAO

herbalife

that was funny

[timid tide]

Look into Chiquita, Nesquick, etc if you wanna see how they do it.

[velvet canopy]

honestly i would only say one thing, avoid credit cards and dont take on debt to study

[acoustic summit]

according to this guy I found on the internet, I can start my way to billionaireness by selling rock candy on the street

[celest remnant]

this is an MLM scam

The chocolate bars you sold in school?

MLM scam

[velvet canopy]

do u have a license to sell chocolate 0_0

[vague harbor]

Hello everyone

[timid tide]

Exactly, the people that are left uneducated by the education systems that billionaires lobby for are often taught to believe that a billionaire is just a really good businessman

[blazing berry]

hi springfrog17

[celest remnant]

Not from a licensed distributor for a school event

this is the loophole they look for

[vague harbor]

Hi mwah👋

[celest remnant]

and recieve MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF FREE LABOR because of

[still wren]

i wanna try buying home cooked food off fb marketplace but they never reply back to me, force me to buy a dinner for 4 people or charge like they are a restaurant

[velvet canopy]

a legal system that has ignored abuse of finances

we love it

[celest remnant]

ignored?

[timid tide]

So, that is to say, if a billionaire is really against a certain idea, it just makes me more for it.

[sacred stratus]

Its the people’s job to vote for workers rights. Americans aren’t doing a good job at that.

[celest remnant]

no sinn this is a regular thing in elementary schools in the united states

it has INTEGRATED ignoring abuse of finances

[velvet canopy]

what why T_T

[vague harbor]

What are yall talking about rn

[still wren]

because some of the food looks quite good ngl

[acoustic summit]

ca$h money

[still wren]

but im not paying $5 per meat skewer thats ridiculous

[velvet canopy]

i mean yeah i phrased that poorly, i was trying to say that it does everything you need it to do until money is involved

[misty umbra]

movie night ?

[velvet canopy]

why not make it urself

[vague harbor]

👍

[celest remnant]

Multi-Level Marketing and how your school has been allowing you to act as free labor for mlm scams for years if you live in the usa

[green yew]

Shuwa

[vague harbor]

Wow

[still wren]

because its not effort to food produced efficient

[timid tide]

They cant. Politicians are owned by the lobbies, which is another way to say a legal form of bribery. The only politicians that will not vote against their voter's rights are the ones that don't have the money to win, and it's known fact that political funding is very well correlated to the likeliness a politician wins.

[still wren]

nobody can convince me to handmake pasta at home

[velvet canopy]

i get that, but i think it makes the food better putting in all that effort

[still wren]

it probably costs me more money to buy the bag of flour and machine than my goat barilla

[fervent zodiac]

about to go fight the tarnished ill post the video after

[timid tide]

The people that are actually for you arent paid the money they desperately need to win, and the ones that do have that money almost certainly got it from people that paid them not to support the people anyways

[celest remnant]

I was in the Royal Rangers (This was a german equivalent of a boy scout troop.) and was taught basic survival skills, small game hunting, fishing. I watched my little sister of 9 join the "girl scouts" of america recently

[timid tide]

Political donations by the people are important as well, is what Im saying.

[celest remnant]

an absolute travesty

all they did was talk cookies

cookie sales figure

[still wren]

tbh i dont even like barilla, my spaghetti packs are all $4.50 per pack

[timid tide]

Its only going to get more difficult to beat a billionaire's lobbying effort the richer they get

[coral urchin]

“I got my ass beat bruh”

[timid tide]

And so its a vicious cycle, they win because they could pay their politicians more, they make more money because their politicians make it easier for them to profit, and they become more likely to win because they can afford to pay their politicians more

[blazing berry]

b sides

[sacred stratus]

There are politicians that are heavily centered around anti corporate policies. Americans don’t vote for them. People refuse to do research and get surprised when the consequences hit them.

I think that in my country, voters bear responsibility for poor choices. Look at the 2024 election.

[celest remnant]

Doesn't matter how rich any of us are given the uh, recent events if you guys haven't been paying attention.

When people are upset, society acts as a great equalizer

[coral urchin]

Dni

[blazing berry]

wow

[green yew]

Yo what is this discussion

[celest remnant]

I taught people how MLM schemes work and how your school has been using you as free mlm labor

[willow minnow]

Carnage!

Get any farther?

[velvet canopy]

what if everyone didnt show up to work for one day conversation

[sacred stratus]

College is a scam

Its actually nepotism not how hard you work

[celest remnant]

Yes and no, college in the united states is a scam if you try and do it outright

you are paying 80'000$ minimum for an education you might not even use

[sacred stratus]

They stop caring about your gpa and stuff if you can pay everything outright

[velvet canopy]

80,000 is ridiculous

[celest remnant]

the key is to go through grant systems to minimize the cost

[velvet canopy]

go to germany atp

300 the whole year

T_T

[timid tide]

Im not saying people arent at fault, it would be a great thing if we could vote for the people that arent getting paid by the rich. The two party system and primaries exist so that we really only look between the two we think are most likely to win, because we'd obviously prefer the one we dislike less to win over the one we dislike the most, and you can't as well guarantee that unless you vote for the former. However, both of these people are going to be the most funded by billionaires, so they win again.

[celest remnant]

Example:I studied korean languages, this means I can go and apply and get 5000$ to cover college tuition right now.

There's grant programs like this across the web you can apply to

(I don't need this, but I've helped my cousins apply)

[sacred stratus]

I was a terrible student in hs and got accepted to colleges because my parents had the money available out of pocket.

[timid tide]

Society is waking up to it, and we are finally starting to head the direction of voting people in who make the rich out to be the enemy.

[celest remnant]

Live in the united stated and you want to own a home? I'll tell you how:Get a farming subsidy

Agricultural business is one of the most highly protected by united states law, 700 farms have filed for chapter 12 bankruptcy in the past year, do you know how many ACTUALLY had to shut down?

[green yew]

Hi malardia do I know you?
And yes I have gotten wayyyy furthur in the game
It looks like we have talked before

[velvet canopy]

honestly living on a farm sounds good

[green yew]

Multi level marketing?

[velvet canopy]

thats one hell of a retirement plan

[willow minnow]

How much further?

[vague harbor]

Hey guys what dark souls game should I beat after elden ring because Im interested in playing those other games

[celest remnant]

That's right

[still wren]

save money and move to indonesia

[velvet canopy]

whats in indonesia

[willow minnow]

Dark Souls 3 is one of my favorites, next to Bloodborne

[green yew]

Let's seee......who was i fighting when I last talked to you?

[still wren]

idk, bali looks pretty nice

[celest remnant]

MLMs are simple to explain because the system is super simple. We can literally think of it like a pyramid.

[velvet canopy]

i hate the beach

[willow minnow]

Pissfrey I believe, or Morgott.

[velvet canopy]

id prefer countryside manitoba

[celest remnant]

If I am running an MLM scheme I am the top, I get the most or even all of the actual profit

[velvet canopy]

me and the polar bears

living our best lives

[celest remnant]

and the benefits just get worse the lower you go

[timid tide]

And we have people here that think its all a meritocracy, that all you need to do to make it is to work harder. If the only people that can thrive do so by abusing the systems, you have to abuse the systems as well.

[vague harbor]

I heard bloodborne is peak and so is dark souls 3,lowk gonna buy those games when I get enough money

[green yew]

Yeah pissfrey it was....after that I beat Morgott
Then I beat fire giant, then godskin duo and now I'm fighting maliketh

[vague harbor]

Im stuck on fire giant lol

[timid tide]

Where have I heard that before... it might trickle down to me eventually

[willow minnow]

argh, your so close to the end.

Make sure you got EVERYTHING you need in the golden captial. Once the black blade is dead, the captial is "gone"

[green yew]

But i stand in California
With my toes in the sand
Use the sleeves of my sweater
Let's have an adventure

[celest remnant]

It IS a meritocracy though, the major problem is nobody is ever educated on these systems you just have to stumble across them.

[velvet canopy]

u couldnt pay me enough to live in cali

[celest remnant]

Figuring out the mechanics of things is in fact itself a skill

[edgy phoenix]

Hello

[vague harbor]

Hello

[green yew]

Head in the clouds
With my gravity cenetered
Touch my neck
And I'll touch yours

[velvet canopy]

good song

[edgy phoenix]

How are you doing

[green yew]

The whole Farum Azula will be gone?

[vague harbor]

Fantastic

[celest remnant]

You'd do fine in cali just stay away from any big cities

they're expensive, the people are rude

[green yew]

Is this your first playthrough

[timid tide]

There's meritocratic elements to it, but we see the people working 2 or 3 jobs not making enough to live, while those that sit around as a figurehead of a company make millions of times more than them. It can be considered a meritocracy if you think about it in terms of learning the skills and loopholes or whatever as the goal, but people are mislead to think that the goal is just to work harder, and not smarter.

[velvet canopy]

honestly i hate cities and i hate the beach. i just want an isolated place in the woods

peace and quiet XD

[celest remnant]

That's what I mean by the "educated on these systems"

how are you supposed to reach the top of a corporate ladder if ya don't even know where to find the exit lol

[vague harbor]

Nah second time fighting him but I didn't beat the game,just used a different save file because why not

[tender brook]

atp EVERYONE knows what state LA is in rn

[edgy phoenix]

That's nice to hear

[timid tide]

And I would agree with you, I just wasn't specific enough to state that they're looking at what's valued as merit all wrong, because they think our society is based on work, rather than systemic knowledge

[celest remnant]

It's like "The Greatest Generation" telling zoomers they're awful for not saving money when the reality is:They were never even given a hint on how

[vague harbor]

Thanks for asking bro,your awesome for that

[green yew]

Wdym?
We cannot save game in this game

[celest remnant]

I asked my little brother what the apr on his savings account is

he has no idea

😭

[tender brook]

and with inflation, never given much to save anyways (in some countries)

[vague harbor]

Yes we can????

[green yew]

Then why don't I see an option ever

[celest remnant]

how do you as he says expect to "stack paper" if you don't even know if your bank account offers good returns on said paper

[green yew]

What is apr

[velvet canopy]

does any bank actually offer that tho

[celest remnant]

The return you get on actually letting the bank use your money

[vague harbor]

Im talking about using a different character,probably should've explained better

[timid tide]

This is another large thing, with the price of rent and all that, it can definitely seem impossible (without certain loopholes I'm sure) to actually retain enough money afterwards to save it

[silver oak]

@kind quail Im incredibly grateful that the devs added difficulties that can be changed on a whim cause otherwise I would’ve gone insane fighting manus and the nameless puppet

[celest remnant]

Annunal Percentage Rate

[tender brook]

idk the exact terms but like interest right

[vague harbor]

I made a different character

[celest remnant]

They all do, the key is finding the highest apr banks

[celest remnant]

yes

[tender brook]

ayy close enough

[celest remnant]

Alright so here's how banking works

[velvet canopy]

what are the percentages in the US

[celest remnant]

when you start a savings account you're told to give an initial investment yes?

this money does not sit in the bank

[tender brook]

here if i remember right its 3-4 percent or smn

[sour lagoon]

That new google pixel 10 commercial be gaslighting mfs

[green yew]

Oh

[celest remnant]

the bank takes it, and gives it to other people,

[velvet canopy]

not terrible

[tender brook]

idk US tho

[green yew]

So restarting the game with a different character?

[celest remnant]

this sounds scary, but for doing this, they let you take more money then you gave them

[vague harbor]

Yep

[velvet canopy]

fractional reserve banking and its beauty

[celest remnant]

Ranges by bank but I've seen as high as 17%

[velvet canopy]

wat

[tender brook]

true

[velvet canopy]

17?

[green yew]

Will your progress with your previous character be saved somewhere? In a save game

[timid tide]

I'm probably younger than you, but I hear what the high school students are saying. They're saying that it's all about "the grind", and not the systems. I remember several years ago that we had a class activity on whether to form a labor union or keep working in the sytem that was present in the early 1800s, the people not making enough money to survive in any way past just living in a small home they pay their own company their earnings to live in, and one of the main speakers of the "keep doing what we're doing" side just said all we had to do was "grind" for it

[tender brook]

yeah dude some banks screw you over others give too much

[celest remnant]

Yeah, 17% APR for maintaining an account value over 20'000$

[velvet canopy]

sounds like they are going bankrupt or something

what the hell they giving out free money for

[blazing berry]

bye

[vague harbor]

Yeah,I didn't delete it but im probably not gonna use it ever again

[velvet canopy]

whats the insurance on that 200k

[celest remnant]

painful

[celest remnant]

100% but with legal stipulations

[vague harbor]

Goodbye for now👋

[timid tide]

The latter side won, by the way, because the majority of the class actually thought this statement to be logical

[celest remnant]

(namely you may have to fight the bank to get it back faster than like, two weeks later)

[tender brook]

its not abt the grind when you spend your money from grinding on a lambo instead of saving for your kids' college fund or getting insurance

[stone meteor]

Bro the r6 discord server is unhinged 💀

[celest remnant]

Genuinely painful they're rock leeing

[velvet canopy]

which means they will chuck horrible settlements at you

[tender brook]

r6?

[green yew]

Bro wtf? When I asked you to join Maho gang you said you're done with gangs
But now you're in giggle gang?

[tender brook]

forgot to change the name fam

1 sec

[green yew]

So does the game itself give you an option to load game?

[celest remnant]

no no, it's more along the lines of your lawyer sending a request on their letterhead and a small wait

most banks would prefer to fold

(the us legal system is a pain on this sort of thing)

[stone meteor]

Rainbow six siege just saw someone get banned because they couldn’t read the words on a article i could be even see it 💀

[tender brook]

holy

[vague harbor]

Yeah just can just go to load game and click on that character

[velvet canopy]

still impressive for what they are giving u

[vague harbor]

Its simple

[velvet canopy]

a bank that outperforms the s&p

[celest remnant]

Oh that 17% was an anomaly

on average, I see 8%

[stone meteor]

They said he\she was being annoying I have my phone up to my face and I could barely even see the text

[velvet canopy]

still good for average

[celest remnant]

the S&P is still by far one of the best investments rn

[velvet canopy]

in the eu its rare to see

honestly gold

and any metals

[tender brook]

isnt everything fiancial a pain in the US unless you're rich (mostly)

[edgy aurora]

Salt and pepper?

[celest remnant]

Nah, it's just harder to navigate because you can't afford to pay someone

[tender brook]

Starscourge and Promised (radahn)

[timid tide]

It's not really just about the grind though, you make a lot of money by learning about the ways you can earn money with the money you have. High return on savings, diversified risk in the stock market, levying your credit to get the best possible credit cards, savings accounts, and loans, filing for certain benefits you technically legally can, minimizing your taxes by capitalizing on certain benefits, that's just as important.

[celest remnant]

Standard & Poors

[stone meteor]

Pours

[celest remnant]

This is a long running financial services company

[tender brook]

my point exactly

im emphasising on the exact reason why people dont do this smart stuff: dumb goals

[timid tide]

I had the choice in high school to either go into calculus or financial math, I chose the latter

[tender brook]

i took the former

[celest remnant]

You invest in the S&P 500 because they track the 500 largest publicly traded companies and offer diversified portfolios for them, it's basically a HUGE pre-made diversified investment portfolio with some stipulations compared to normal investment

[tender brook]

cause i like calculus

[stone meteor]

So i should be investing in the s&p RIGHT?

[celest remnant]

You want a diversified portfolio because investing in a single stock is like being a farmer that plants only a single crop

[velvet canopy]

nasdaq is good too

[celest remnant]

One drought, and your field dies

[velvet canopy]

honestly the smaller ones that revolve around specific fields are where you want to look

[timid tide]

And, because the S&P generally goes up over the long, it's quite a safe way to make money. It's effectively an EMT or mutual fund in that aspect.

[velvet canopy]

but if u dont want to get into it s&p is safe

[celest remnant]

I am huge in biomed stocks

[fervent zodiac]

I got my ass beat im not posting that

[celest remnant]

(53'735$ so far)

[velvet canopy]

the smile on my face rn

good for you

[edgy aurora]

😔

[celest remnant]

I mean it's SUCH a safe investment field at the moment

[tender brook]

was the tarnished 27 yrs old?

[stone meteor]

Imma invest 5$ into the s&p🥹

[timid tide]

I like calculus too, but I figured my goal in the long run was to make enough money to live, not necessarily to be ready for a college course.

[tender brook]

invest in Starscourge and Promised

[velvet canopy]

i agree

pharma etfs are always good

[stone meteor]

Sounds like a ice cream brand

[timid tide]

Agree on this

[tender brook]

two of the titles for radahn

[edgy aurora]

You mean promised starscourge?

Gimme one scoop of promised starscourge

[stone meteor]

That actually sounds better

[tender brook]

that sounds like a constipation creator

[coral urchin]

Promised blade of Miquella

[tender brook]

twin?

[edgy aurora]

✌️

[timid tide]

If you want my less than ethical take, if you really just wanna make money, invest in the thing that's clearly gonna be making money for a while. I had a teacher that put money into NVidia, they must've made a lot by now. Ideally, you should be able to put stocks into things you actually want to succeed, though. AI is not something I want to succeed, personally.

[stone meteor]

Peak fiction when he Mets fiction peak

[tender brook]

here the most stable career is CS/AI engineer so i gotta take calculus to do that anyways

[tender brook]

lol