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robust flax Jul 25, 2024, 6:39 PM

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If you do a range test is that for one site or can you war drive and make a coverage map?

junior cosmos Jul 25, 2024, 7:35 PM

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Not sure.

junior cosmos Jul 25, 2024, 7:50 PM

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It would be sweet to be able to war drive then just hope to drive by a node on there 15min chirp rotation

quaint marlin Jul 25, 2024, 7:55 PM

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I don't know if it makes a difference but when I range test/war drive I end short messages saying either a crossroad or landmark, and if I get an ACK I "hope" that also gets me some node info?

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BTW speaking of driving - man these Bandits are great vehicle nodes.

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the window clip makes it a complete no-brainer. One wire (power) and that's it.

robust flax Jul 25, 2024, 8:04 PM

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I need a window clip for my truck

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I swapped wisblocks in my work truck and saw a bunch today on the way into town

quaint marlin Jul 25, 2024, 10:28 PM

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I'll be happy to supply you with a Bandit window node.

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or if you want I've got a 4W amp that is already set up with a wisblock and is really easy to set up for a window clip

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I'm super impressed with the bandit as a mobile node, it's really good.

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like to the point where I may take the G2's out of my cars and put them into other stationary nodes in the future

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that goes for anyone here, if you want to run an amplified node in your vehicle I've got a lot of extra hardware to do it.

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worst case scenerio you'd just need to maybe get a magnetic antenna mount if you didn't want to go the window clip mount route

robust flax Jul 25, 2024, 10:32 PM

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I'm war driving right now.. over by kmsp

quaint marlin Jul 25, 2024, 10:33 PM

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alright I'm on the lookout

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it's not SUPER close but it's close-ish

robust flax Jul 25, 2024, 10:34 PM

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Gotta see if I can make that hop then I know my main node location

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The maps say i'm blasting that upper bluff, but I doubt it

quaint marlin Jul 25, 2024, 10:35 PM

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it's tough from actual street elevation and with all those buildings around

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I'm sending period pings on #longfast

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oh wait, KMSP... I thought you meant KSTP

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Not sure where KMSP is

robust flax Jul 25, 2024, 10:36 PM

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Flying cloud airpot

quaint marlin Jul 25, 2024, 10:36 PM

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oh.. yeah I won't get my pings out there

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I didn't realize they were out there

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I’m a lot closer to their big transmit towers in shoreview

robust flax Jul 25, 2024, 10:38 PM

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That's a whole Lotta curvature

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Iso flat earth

quaint marlin Jul 25, 2024, 10:38 PM

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that's what she said

robust flax Jul 25, 2024, 10:39 PM

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Long farther mobile is over here tho

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Fart

wide umbra Jul 25, 2024, 10:44 PM

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robust flax Flying cloud airpot

Flying Cloud is KFCM

quaint marlin Jul 25, 2024, 10:49 PM

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KMSP TV is right out there too

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494 & 212

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The only chance you have of pings is somebody's work node out by 494 & France but I don't think it's that powerful

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only covers about a 0.5mi radius at best

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may be extended if I put a node up at the container store ramp, which is still on my list

robust flax Jul 25, 2024, 10:52 PM

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There's better options maybe

quaint marlin Jul 25, 2024, 10:52 PM

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there's always better options, just sometimes easier is better

robust flax Jul 25, 2024, 10:52 PM

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Ooh yeah

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That area needs coverage anyway

quaint marlin Jul 25, 2024, 10:53 PM

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I'm interested in the container store ramp becuase it covers a good swath of highland park in st paul

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without actually having to be in highland park

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then if I can plop a couple streetlights up it could get the whole area

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that whole area is really tough to get big coverage on. It's hilly and full of trees and tall houses

dreamy sapphire Jul 25, 2024, 11:21 PM

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I love the container store tbh

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Got two monitor risers there made of steel. They hold up my desktop servers in the utility room so if theres a flood they're fine

dreamy sapphire Jul 26, 2024, 12:43 AM

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it took a bit, but I think I got my 3D printer mostly tuned in

junior cosmos Jul 26, 2024, 1:11 AM

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Get a new printer or just maintenance?

dreamy sapphire Jul 26, 2024, 1:12 AM

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long overdue maintenance on my mk3s+

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belts, nozzle, fixed the extruder, took off the busted MMU, updated firmware, relubed the bearings

robust flax Jul 26, 2024, 1:34 AM

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Must have had 10's of thousands of hours on it to need all that

dreamy sapphire Jul 26, 2024, 1:39 AM

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anyone south of the cities rn?

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there's a node on a plane coming into MSP

robust flax Jul 26, 2024, 1:44 AM

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I am

dreamy sapphire Jul 26, 2024, 1:44 AM

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see if you can get RV42

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they just went below 10k feet so they're pretty hot coming in

robust flax Jul 26, 2024, 1:48 AM

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Strange I had himfor a half hour

dreamy sapphire Jul 26, 2024, 1:52 AM

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coming up from iowa

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I only got em through mqtt

robust flax Jul 26, 2024, 1:53 AM

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I'm not linked yet

quaint marlin Jul 26, 2024, 2:46 PM

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piked up a couple overnight/this AM

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including someone that uses a emoji as a short name

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which honestly isn't the worst idea

robust flax Jul 26, 2024, 3:13 PM

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Yeah in picked up both of those as well

junior cosmos Jul 26, 2024, 8:40 PM

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Okay so looks like my station G2 is out for delivery.

junior cosmos Jul 26, 2024, 9:53 PM

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It has arrived!

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 3:21 AM

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Everyone out drinking having fun and playing with their new toys?

dreamy sapphire Jul 27, 2024, 3:24 AM

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I wish I had new toy money

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I made soup instead

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 3:32 AM

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What kinda soup?

dreamy sapphire Jul 27, 2024, 3:32 AM

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kielbasa, broccoli, green onions and potatoes in milk

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 3:33 AM

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Sounds good! Never had it with broccoli but meant times corn and potatoes

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Many many effin times

dreamy sapphire Jul 27, 2024, 3:45 AM

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such a good soup

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honestly best bread dunking soup out there

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 3:48 AM

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Makes me want to go to the polish butcher and get some kielbasa

junior cosmos Jul 27, 2024, 9:11 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/sausage-cat-gif-20832517

Tenor

quaint marlin Jul 27, 2024, 1:17 PM

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I picked up a couple new-to-me nodes in Maplewood this AM while out getting donuts

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Even someone who named one with "Maple[numbers]" which almost insinuates they have more nodes elsewhere, who knows?

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also hell yes to all sausage soups.

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I was already planning on making some chicken soup today, but I will be adding hot italian sausage to it.

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You know, 90+ degrees a muggy, perfect day for a hot bowl of soup.

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 2:14 PM

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Tbh it really does

quaint marlin Jul 27, 2024, 2:33 PM

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I mean it helps if you have covid and need to hydrate badly (me)

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I'm just pissed I won't be able to taste it

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 2:37 PM

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Well, welcome to the hydrohomies club. I have to stay hydrated so this shit doesn't burn a hold in my bladder

quaint marlin Jul 27, 2024, 3:38 PM

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I'm usually pretty well hydrated but sweating all night apparently transfers that hydration to the ol' bedsheets

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Gonna hit my office here in a bit, not sure if it's the node there, or an issue here but I no longer see it by its long or short name, just by its original name...which just seems weird.

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 4:04 PM

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Super spreader!

quaint marlin Jul 27, 2024, 6:05 PM

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incredible - that was my nickname in high school!

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 6:19 PM

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Geez you really don't trust farts these days

quaint marlin Jul 27, 2024, 6:54 PM

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Made my way onto the office roof, node was just fine...rebooted and ended up just resetting the NodeDB on my car G2, and then pinged it from the parking lot and that got it to recognize. Now I'll likely do the same from my home G2 so that it picks it up again. Hard to say why that behavior is happening.

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oddly I picked up my yard-testing AB'd 1W node before anything else, which is a GREAT sign because that's a friggin long ways away, and mounted in a terrible location and I picked it up!

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 7:24 PM

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remote in to home and see if you can see it from there so you don't have to make multiple trips

quaint marlin Jul 27, 2024, 8:53 PM

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In the past I was able to remote into it. It was slow-ish but I could do it. Right now, I cannot. Like it doesn't understand the route to get there, or my streetlight node that enabled the connection in the first place is not getting lucky.

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The streetlight node that enables my office connection is 5.1mi and it's going through some foliage and whatnot. Not a ton but enough.

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once the new building node is up in roseville it will be a non-issue, as I'm 90% sure there is direct LOS from office to office.

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 8:55 PM

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what about remoting into your computer at home and getting in that way?

quaint marlin Jul 27, 2024, 8:55 PM

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I use a laptop and docking stations

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 8:55 PM

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bruh

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no LED lights and swirrly things?

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-100 nerd points

quaint marlin Jul 27, 2024, 8:56 PM

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nope... I keep the laptop clamshell 99.9% of the time too

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I am a different kind of nerd

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 8:56 PM

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"diffrent" alright

quaint marlin Jul 27, 2024, 8:56 PM

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I'll take what I can get

robust flax Jul 27, 2024, 8:56 PM

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eh why not

quaint marlin Jul 28, 2024, 1:17 PM

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so BTW when I checked the office node yesterday I saw that the "FrankClient" node was from a Delta flight... so yeah, can get rid of that one from your lists lol

robust flax Jul 28, 2024, 2:04 PM

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Frank was great guy

quaint marlin Jul 28, 2024, 3:04 PM

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Aye, we barely knew him

robust flax Jul 28, 2024, 3:16 PM

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I mean he reached out a couple of times

quaint marlin Jul 28, 2024, 6:14 PM

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This anybody?

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robust flax Jul 28, 2024, 6:52 PM

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I think I've picked that up

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I have..

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I'll be pinging thru the east side this afternoon.

quaint marlin Jul 28, 2024, 6:54 PM

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you may pick up one or two of mine depending on where you are

robust flax Jul 28, 2024, 6:55 PM

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It's possible

robust flax Jul 28, 2024, 8:24 PM

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All the way up 35e no new contacts? East side is dead

quaint marlin Jul 28, 2024, 9:14 PM

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there are spots where my home node reaches 35E, let me check my node list

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this you?

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or this?

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I see a "Hello" in LongFast, thatmust be you

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but I wasn't at my desk

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node info didn't come through somehow

robust flax Jul 28, 2024, 9:44 PM

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I'll check my csv when I get home but I didn't see anything new

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I did send 3 hellos in stp but no acks

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I should have sent a trail of seq's

quaint marlin Jul 28, 2024, 10:35 PM

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I got a Hello. There are only a few spots on 35E between 36 and downtown STP where I can get reliable acks from my home node, which is closest to 35E. I have to broadcast through a LOT of buildings and trees to get east.

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even my HWT map shows very intermittent coverage on 35E

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but those coverage maps often miss things. There are spots on Rice north of 36 where I get consistent acks that are not at all in a red area, and I know it's from my home node, not some other random nearby node

quaint marlin Jul 28, 2024, 11:19 PM

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now I'm getting more activity on longfast, is that one of you?

wide umbra Jul 28, 2024, 11:20 PM

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What you seeing?

quaint marlin Jul 28, 2024, 11:20 PM

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wide umbra Jul 28, 2024, 11:20 PM

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I was doing a demo for a friend but I'm way down in hastings

quaint marlin Jul 28, 2024, 11:20 PM

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no node info

wide umbra Jul 28, 2024, 11:20 PM

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Nope not me

quaint marlin Jul 28, 2024, 11:20 PM

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this just happened as I brought up a node to do an update

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it's @robust flax !

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the node data took a minute to get to me

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He's a few blocks from my house, how many guns do I need to load up

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eh nevermind, lost him

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he traveled out of my HQ's pocket of signal

robust flax Jul 29, 2024, 12:05 AM

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Oh no

quaint marlin Jul 29, 2024, 12:57 AM

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@robust flax did you pick up any of my Remote [X] nodes?

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the one you had the best chances of picking up were 8 and 10

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10 has some nice high-ground and I can't isolate it enough to test it on the freeway

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This is R10's supposed sphere of influence:
https://www.heywhatsthat.com/?view=XDWMQ6F9

HeyWhatsThat

Compute summits visible from any location worldwide

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but even that only paints a few thin stripes on 35E

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the trouble with most of the big freeways is that they are in their own 20-30ft valleys

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the only times I have consistent results getting out of freeway valleys with MT nodes is with the amplified ones like G2's or Bandits.

robust flax Jul 29, 2024, 1:22 AM

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Just oasis domicile and ichi

quaint marlin Jul 29, 2024, 1:30 AM

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There are some nodes over in maplewood not too far from woodbury that I'd like to get connected to the mesh. They've been up and active for a while, but nothing to connect them to the more central area

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lowertown building node(s) should help that out a bit.

robust flax Jul 29, 2024, 1:42 AM

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Aye!

junior cosmos Jul 29, 2024, 6:55 AM

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Yeah I just finished the second day of shutdown hell.

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🤮🤬🤯

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Tomorrow is another and the end of of shutdown hell I can’t wait for fucking Tuesday.

robust flax Jul 29, 2024, 3:50 PM

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Uhh it's just pipe bro.

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And think of the nice padded paycheck. It will almost match bidenflation

somber ocean Jul 29, 2024, 6:04 PM

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I was in Roseville, MN this morning around 8:00 am near Fairview Ave & County Rd C. I immediately got an ack to a "hello" message that I sent out.

robust flax Jul 29, 2024, 6:11 PM

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ooh..

wide umbra Jul 29, 2024, 7:01 PM

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somber ocean I was in Roseville, MN this morning around 8:00 am near Fairview Ave & County Rd...

paging @quaint marlin

quaint marlin Jul 29, 2024, 8:41 PM

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Ha!

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Fairview and C means my office node likely picked it up

quaint marlin Jul 29, 2024, 8:43 PM

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somber ocean I was in Roseville, MN this morning around 8:00 am near Fairview Ave & County Rd...

I've got an office rooftop node 1.5mi from there, that's most likely what you picked up. Soon I'll have a much more powerful node on another nearby office about 1.5mi southeast of where you were.

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Pretty soon should have the majority of roseville in some kind of reliable coverage. Just building the node now to blast it! 😄

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Most of St Paul very soon too (except for pesky areas of Highland Park and some of the East Side). Have a LOT of nodes to be deploying in the coming two weeks.

robust flax Jul 29, 2024, 9:36 PM

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now if i can only get a few parts delivered

quaint marlin Jul 29, 2024, 9:52 PM

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@somber ocean you 592C?

somber ocean Jul 29, 2024, 10:10 PM

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quaint marlin <@738465820388360284> you `592C`?

yes

quaint marlin Jul 29, 2024, 10:12 PM

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i got your node info 7mi away in st paul too then

somber ocean Jul 29, 2024, 10:27 PM

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quaint marlin i got your node info 7mi away in st paul too then

Wow. This was inside my vehicle when I sent a message, not exactly ideal transmitting conditions.

quaint marlin Jul 30, 2024, 1:36 AM

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somber ocean Wow. This was inside my vehicle when I sent a message, not exactly ideal transm...

The node info I thiiiiiiink (?) gets shared somehow via a mesh's primary channel, so that may explain how it ended up at my home node. Most if not all of my nodes are members of the same private channels outside of the #LongFast one, so I think that in some way shape or form they get to my HQ node via Hops.

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so This is how I see your device in my node list:

somber ocean Jul 30, 2024, 1:37 AM

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Ahh, 3 hops

quaint marlin Jul 30, 2024, 1:38 AM

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chances are it hopped from my office node to one of my streetlight nodes and then over to my HQ

somber ocean Jul 30, 2024, 1:39 AM

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I don’t have any new nodes in my node list. Not sure why that is.

quaint marlin Jul 30, 2024, 1:42 AM

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I think most of my nodes announce hourly, so I think it's sorta "luck of the draw" aka "are you in range whenever that "hour" happens to tick by.

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in the somewhat near future a few of them will become repeaters, so they will not be showing up in the node list at all once that happens

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one of the things that's somewhat annoying about the meshtastic routing system is that when anything is picked up by a repeater it shows up as an ACK, which is ... ok... but I wish it could show that it hit a repeater instead of ack, which sort of insinuates that someone may have seen it.

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but I know there's an airtime budget and if everything chirped back every time anything at all happens, before too long there'd never be any free airtime, and every node would run out of battery every day

robust flax Jul 30, 2024, 1:51 AM

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Most of them should just be clients

quaint marlin Jul 30, 2024, 1:44 PM

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It'd be cool if repeaters caused a -1 hop 😄

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I know that so far the common wisdom has been "all clients unless you're on a mountain" but my skeptical/uneducated self still wants to try with a good location or two, if for no other reason than that the common wisdom about MT doesn't always seem to apply to dense US urban application.

quaint marlin Jul 30, 2024, 11:05 PM

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Alright @dreamy sapphire has a pile of new parts to goof around with. Blaine is gonna get painted red with coverage! 😄

dreamy sapphire Jul 30, 2024, 11:05 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/kameo-creative-paint-the-city-nevinwebster-kamloops-gif-13845964

Tenor

quaint marlin Jul 30, 2024, 11:06 PM

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you'll need to use some pliers or something to get the SO239 adapter out of that 8dbi antenna

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it should be N male.

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:12 AM

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if you get any ideas on what you'd like to try with that antenna I have a pile of various low-loss cables you can goof with, and some mounting brackets of different types.

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but that is the kind of antenna that has a pretty long reach. Not the directional kind you would want to go direct from point to point, but it should have many fars in it.

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:14 AM

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gotta find my skinny pliers to get the adapter off, my 2" channel locks are too wide

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most likely use it for a house node and try to get a link with yetiwurks

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also put an idea on the notes app today for a belt node. Smallest pocket node possible but it clips to your belt and sorta forgotten during the day. If I can, wireless charging

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:42 AM

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You should be able to get a connection from your attic

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:45 AM

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yeah it should actually make a great attic node antenna

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I may suggest - don't put that 4W amp in the attic. They tend to behave best at room temp.

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:47 AM

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my attic is full of loose insulation, not sure if theres even power up there

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:47 AM

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@robust flax and others -- I've got a pile of these 4W amps if you're interested in one, they make a great addition to home HQ nodes that are indoors. The amps themselves are not power-thirsty, they just need 9-12v DC power.

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:48 AM

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dreamy sapphire my attic is full of loose insulation, not sure if theres even power up there

You make power up there! It all runs across. You just walk on the joists

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:48 AM

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Obviously you want your antenna outdoors (or attic if necessary) but the amps seem to prefer being either cold or not-hot.

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new-ish construction may have good ol' outlets up there!

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:48 AM

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if that induction antenna works fine, maybe I can just stick my antenna through the window

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:49 AM

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hell I have a light socket in my attic attached to the chimney and my house is 140 years old

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:49 AM

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my house is a quadplex from the 70s. I only poked my head in the attic once right after I moved in

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:49 AM

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dreamy sapphire if that induction antenna works fine, maybe I can just stick my antenna through ...

Stop being scared! You can also put an adsb node up there

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:49 AM

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it was full of loose insulation and hot as hell lol

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:50 AM

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my attic is absolute hell in the summer. I installed some extra framing up there once, and I probably lost 20 lbs in sweat.

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:50 AM

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They are all hot. If needed just put a fan on things

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:51 AM

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they're actually designed to be hot in the summer and cold in the winter

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mostly cold in the winter, something about ice buildup

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:51 AM

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yeah you don't want ice dams

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:52 AM

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Well, hot is just a side effect. You don't really want it hot or just is what it is

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:52 AM

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Anyhoo, antennas don't care at all how hot it is. maybe we can figure out how to get a baller attic node built with just the antenna up there or something.

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:53 AM

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But, find some romex tap a box into it add an outlet and have yourself some fun. You might not need to go far depending on there the peak and entrance is

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:53 AM

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I do have an electrician in my pocket that does free work for me

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:53 AM

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one of the big up-sides to using an amp is that cable loss becomes a lot less of an issue, so options become a little less limited

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:54 AM

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I'll just make it his problem, since it's a townhome I technically have to have a bonded and licensed electrician do any HV work

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the state doesnt care if you burn your own house down, just dont make it someone else's problem

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:54 AM

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Sounds like you're trying to talk yourself out of it

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:54 AM

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but it's hooooot up thereeee

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:55 AM

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Not at night

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:55 AM

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"the bees are all asleep at night, just don't wake them"

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:55 AM

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I actually do suspect theres a wasp nest near the garage

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:55 AM

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Just hope dirty mike and the boys aren't ip there

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:55 AM

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I'm 3D printing a fake nest to drive them away

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:56 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-338783462287106063

Tenor

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:56 AM

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wasps and hornets are very territorial, they wont set up shop if they think there's an existing nest

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:57 AM

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I just had hornets take up residence in a clay sculpture that we've had in place for many years right near our front steps. I thought I was gonna have to ozone them (or Brakleen them...) but I decided that I'm gonna let them live, and actually they've been pretty cool. Not attacking anyone, we cool.

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:57 AM

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Eff that

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:58 AM

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real bees? they're friends

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:58 AM

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I think they realized that I have so, so, so many ways to kill them silently, they figured out how to chill.

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:58 AM

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anything bee shaped that isnt a bee? instant death

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:58 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/fire-burning-it-it-movie-flame-on-gif-14114900090763665996

Tenor

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:58 AM

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gasoline fumes kill them critters

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:58 AM

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if you've never hit a wasp with Brakleen, you haven't killed a bug.

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and who doesn't have a dozen cans of brakleen in the garage? or is that just me.

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:58 AM

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Carb cleaner

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:59 AM

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carb cleaner works too but it's more expensive 😄

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:59 AM

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I have far too many cans on WD40 and "start in a can"

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and pb blaster

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love pb blaster

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:59 AM

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start in a can is basically carb cleaner

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I'm a seafoam man myself

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:59 AM

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it's just a hodgepodge of whatever explodes

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 1:59 AM

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being a MN native

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 1:59 AM

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each with a slightly different ignition temp

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:59 AM

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Wd 40 doesn't burn great

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 2:00 AM

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WD40 isn't a lubricant, but it's a damn good lubricant

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:00 AM

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brakleen also shoots REALLY far with the straw

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 2:00 AM

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I learned my staple gun doesn't have a safety and will shoot a staple across the garage

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:00 AM

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Without much oomph

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:00 AM

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I rigged one of my nail guns to do that

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 2:00 AM

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yeah mine doesnt run on air

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its the 10 dollar menards spring version

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:03 AM

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What are your plans for that lunch tray window deal infered?

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 2:04 AM

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the window hangar solar node?

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once the design is actually good, plan to build 5 (I bought a 5 pack of panels) and figure out how to divvy them up to people who would use them

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I'm assuming I will not be a good enough modeller to get the solar sharkfin design done

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:09 AM

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Shark fin

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!

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:09 AM

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the lunch tray is a blast, I may do something goofy with it

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I just ordered some more custom cables to perhaps do something with one of the ones I've still got

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to be able to run a car window node with a big-dawg fiberglass antenna

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:11 AM

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Safelite cares saflite replace is running thru my head

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:11 AM

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this is why we have glass coverage!

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:12 AM

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Window glass is pfm you never get it all out years later there's a piece just sitting there chilling..

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:12 AM

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that said, my NMO mount is clipped directly onto glass on my Pilot, and I've gone 80 with a fiberglass antenna hooked up

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oh I've had plenty of broken windows living in the city

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it's a nice reminder "remember when I had a dedicated XM radio?"

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:14 AM

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Xm is great just such shit fidelity

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:14 AM

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it was pure gold for road trips before cell coverage was as ubiquitous as it is these days.

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:14 AM

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Agreed

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And now it's built into everything and still not used

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:15 AM

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there are probably some areas of the country where it still makes sense.

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 2:15 AM

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robust flax Shark fin

might order and dissect one of these, except the solar panel on there does MAYBE 40ma

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:15 AM

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certainly wouldn't get it just for specific content anymore

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:16 AM

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dreamy sapphire might order and dissect one of these, except the solar panel on there does MAYBE...

Great starting point

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:16 AM

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I'd actually be more likely to get one that doesn't even have solar, as long as the battery/batteries were easy to replace

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solar wouldn't be terrible but it does take away from the seamless look

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 2:17 AM

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easy battery replacement and waterproof are difficult to do both of

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:17 AM

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Magnets!

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 2:17 AM

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then again if it's magnetic with a phat o-ring, could be done

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:17 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/magic-how-do-they-work-magnets-ho-wtf-gif-15717467

Tenor

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 2:17 AM

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or just a waterproof usb-c underneath

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or hell, wireless charging

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after 3 months just take it in and slap it on the Qi charger overnight

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:18 AM

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3 months is going to take a bit to recharge

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:18 AM

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yeah even with a wisblock that's a lot of battery

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:19 AM

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Long cord and qi to cigarette lighter

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:19 AM

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if you can stuff 3 18650's in there it'll get you a month, and if it's easy to remove and maybe it has a weatherproof USB port, just yank it off your roof and bring it inside

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would make for convenient firmware updates too

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 2:19 AM

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3 18650s will charge off a qi charger overnight for sure

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but a bulkhead usb-c is cheaper and easier

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:19 AM

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And waterproof

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:20 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Car-Shark-Fin-Antenna-Cover/dp/B0BQ2XX4Q2/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2X3TWN2RWO886&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.jU0M3PwqxkvSimln_EIeM2BKWsCL8VDFBnWszIis3CqaDFI53i_znDS5QpVQ_0TigIq_tNJFuSEZqnlejfRzvL6MOtjBfq3qUGDlPnKnaX73iO5bIrI1xTBa46e2PtgSan1YpN0iGK5uXKxHDFz5ok4O_KXpD48SrZj1XtcYWr80ZmuAHGf-SSWoKCL13QwKzrwnGZIdYMPDgN7M5pNLoM5pCyu5pMEuOq59UBDHyBs.1lB53ij9MkxxKbkb2VqYSQ-GqWcHbO1Vj0WiINqvY8w&dib_tag=se&keywords=shark%2Bfin%2Bantenna&qid=1722392424&sprefix=sharkfin%2Banten%2Caps%2C252&sr=8-2&th=1

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Car Shark Fin Antenna Cover, Roof Aerial Base AM/FM Radio Signal for Car SUV Truck, Vehicle Shark Fin Shape Cover with Adhesive Tape, Car Accessories Antenna Replacement Fits Most Cars (Gray)

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this kind of thing seems like it's just an internal frame from working

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:21 AM

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I would just find a battery that fits the size and go from there

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:22 AM

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also it says right there in clear, very legible definitely-english:

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:22 AM

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Mmm paste

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:22 AM

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adhe
sive
paste

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:23 AM

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I can say I'm surprised my antenna stayed on through all the parking garages last night

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:23 AM

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am I showing my dorkness by saying I'd totally get the cherry red shark fin node for my black cars?

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 2:24 AM

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Orange

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:25 AM

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oh man....

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better get Maaco

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 2:38 AM

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flip it upside down, cnc a groove, throw mega o-ring and magnets

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I cant tell if that black border stuff is squishy or not

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ah yeah looks rubber. Strong magnets and a felt base, ezpz

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now the question of the hour, find a 2" stubby, or just stuff a gizont in that bitch?

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 2:45 AM

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STUFF THE GIZONT.

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that's basic life advice, really.

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 2:54 AM

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hmm, napkin math says the gizont would barely if at all fit inside, even curved up

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and by napkin I mean chatgpt because I dont think I even own a pencil

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 3:10 AM

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Only works on cars made of ferrous materials..

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You'll probably need to make a clip that can get glued/ taped on

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 3:21 AM

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eh, most cars are made of steel

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aluminum cars are usually the expensive kind

narrow eagle Jul 31, 2024, 1:05 PM

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for as active as this discord is I'm not sure why the actual meshtastic side isn't busier. I'm isolated, located in central MN, but since the MQTT change the main project made it's been very quiet. Am I missing stuff or is it actually just quiet?

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 1:46 PM

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We are actively building out the mesh. But, no mqtt here

narrow eagle Jul 31, 2024, 3:04 PM

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that explains it then. In the old system someone was using MQTT so it would get broadcast to me and vice versa. Now that's gone

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 3:09 PM

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Yeah unless you mqtt your pocket node you're in for a quiet time

narrow eagle Jul 31, 2024, 3:09 PM

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yea, I'm very rarely getting stuff now and probably only from others also using MQTT. Bit of a bummer but it is what it is, better for the project tbh

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 4:40 PM

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amen

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yeah big stuff happening in node deployment across the metro, and we're shooting to make some 'corridor' attempts to get things where we have active users outside of the 1st-2nd ring metro

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whether that be powerful nodes with yagi's pointed or a patchwork of smaller nodes to make a path

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@narrow eagle where are ya, roughly?

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 5:36 PM

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lease signed, and one year paid!

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i'll try and get on the roof tomorrow or friday

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 6:24 PM

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🎉

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 8:55 PM

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quaint marlin i'll try and get on the roof tomorrow or friday

Let's go!

narrow eagle Jul 31, 2024, 9:31 PM

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quaint marlin <@108276364993437696> where are ya, roughly?

melrose

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 9:33 PM

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ok... so probably looking at needing to get signal to St Cloud as a relay point

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get this man some G2's and some Yagi's!

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(oh and some fire lookout towers or something)

wide umbra Jul 31, 2024, 9:54 PM

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narrow eagle melrose

yeah st cloud has a lot of activity, like @quaint marlin said yagi pointed that way will probably be your best bet

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 9:57 PM

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That's still 30mi or so, I'm gonna assume that some high ground is gonna be required.

wide umbra Jul 31, 2024, 9:57 PM

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i didnt say it'd be easy or bulletproof lol

quaint marlin Jul 31, 2024, 9:58 PM

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weren't we kicking around the idea of a drone tethered to the ground by a super long power cord!? 😄

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send that thing up with a G2 on its belly, DONE

narrow eagle Jul 31, 2024, 9:59 PM

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My location is a bit of a valley too so not ideal

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It’s ok. The mesh is already double if not more in size in just a couple of months

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So with any luck it’ll just fill in soon. Alternatively we use a different mqtt server

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 10:04 PM

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I'm sure we will add mqtt around here or I will I just want to be able to not be an island first

dreamy sapphire Jul 31, 2024, 10:09 PM

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I also had another terrible node idea today at ax man

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Hat Node. Slight bend to the chassis, clips to the top of a dad hat/baseball cap

robust flax Jul 31, 2024, 10:13 PM

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Some ideas we just keep to ourselves..

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https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-nacho-eating-sombrero-gif-4481161

Tenor

nacho nacho man

▶ Play video

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The only thing that should be on hats is hats and nachos

quaint marlin Aug 1, 2024, 4:05 AM

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BTW I should mention - if you haven't already set your Hops to 7, set your hops to 7.

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I don't know what kind of mesh 3 hops is supposed to work with, but it ain't one operating in a big metro area.

dreamy sapphire Aug 1, 2024, 4:12 AM

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yup, way ahead of ya

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maybe 3 works in the UK, but that aint here

robust flax Aug 1, 2024, 4:16 AM

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Something with a big router.. but I'll be 3 hops to get to the city..

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Did you see the wells fargo tower is getting foreclosed?

dreamy sapphire Aug 1, 2024, 4:33 AM

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wells fargo forclosed themselves?

quaint marlin Aug 1, 2024, 4:34 AM

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Couldnt have happened to a nicer bank. Which city, mpls or stp?

robust flax Aug 1, 2024, 4:45 AM

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The 494 and France boomer building we have been talking about

wide umbra Aug 1, 2024, 4:46 AM

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Yeah one with the alarm.com signage these days

robust flax Aug 1, 2024, 4:52 AM

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Yeah. I was just there fixing on the wells fargo next to the main building. It's owned and operated by someone else just like every other building

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quaint marlin Aug 1, 2024, 4:55 AM

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Ah that one, maybe i should try and get a roof lease 😂

robust flax Aug 1, 2024, 4:59 AM

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There's a ac unit on the tippy top

quaint marlin Aug 1, 2024, 12:54 PM

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that would be a great one to try a flat-lying RAK100x175 node deployed with no intention of removal

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just 4 magnets on the bottom, and done.

robust flax Aug 1, 2024, 2:39 PM

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I agree

quaint marlin Aug 1, 2024, 3:23 PM

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that, or one that is REALLY self-sufficient, aka using a Voltaic battery. May even be a good one for me to finally diassemble a voltaic pack and put it into a RAK enclosure.

quaint marlin Aug 1, 2024, 8:20 PM

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Driving out to Rogers shortly, will try and do some node pingin' especially if I'm stuck in traffic

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@dreamy sapphire I'll likely be zipping through your hood (roughly 65 & 610) at some point

robust flax Aug 1, 2024, 8:44 PM

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Don't forget the 6pm mesh fest

wide umbra Aug 1, 2024, 9:54 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/mesh-tonight-gif-21872388

Tenor

quaint marlin Aug 1, 2024, 11:26 PM

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got a couple acks over off 610 and 169 and picked up the yetiwurks node but that was it

dreamy sapphire Aug 1, 2024, 11:43 PM

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quaint marlin Driving out to Rogers shortly, will try and do some node pingin' especially if I...

Ah frig, I was IN rogers today

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I think the amped up node I'm borrowing isnt txing or something. Gotta futz with it

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 12:23 AM

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the Bandit?

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We were only in rogers briefly to pick something up and zip back, from like 4:45-5:30

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I'm curious who's node I hit up near Osseo. I didn't get a node report, just a couple Acks

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I got a 6 mile TX today though to my home node from way out in shoreview.

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 12:43 AM

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Rogers area may be a rough one to get any decent area coverage regardless of node. It's flat, full of trees and 2-3 story buildings.

wide umbra Aug 2, 2024, 12:59 AM

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I may be doing some testing of a node in that area on Sunday so stay tuned

dreamy sapphire Aug 2, 2024, 1:11 AM

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No, the car node with an amp

robust flax Aug 2, 2024, 1:12 AM

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Ooh.

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Well 35e/35w 42 area has decent coverage now time to test

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 2:18 AM

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nice

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Buck Hill?

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 2:19 AM

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dreamy sapphire No, the car node with an amp

ah... it's definitely not perfect, it's no G2 or I would say not even a Bandit. It's sorta brute-forcing things. What are you using for an antenna?

dreamy sapphire Aug 2, 2024, 2:20 AM

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I was using that N-type adapter. I'll try it again with the almighty gizont

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 2:37 AM

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No, that's OK to use an N, I assume the magnetic mount? That should work great.

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It's definitely not magic, if there's no nodes, there's no nodes.

dreamy sapphire Aug 2, 2024, 2:37 AM

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no, it just wouldnt talk to my pocket node

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 2:37 AM

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!!!!

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really.

dreamy sapphire Aug 2, 2024, 2:37 AM

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well, the car node could hear the pocket node

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but not vice versa

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I didnt test messages but it didnt show up on the node list

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 2:38 AM

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you may need to wipe the wisblock on the car node

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if you haven't already

dreamy sapphire Aug 2, 2024, 2:38 AM

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I tried but it didnt work so I'll have to try again

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 2:38 AM

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or just reset the node DB on it perhaps

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 12:24 PM

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couple nodes popped up at like 5am

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quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 3:38 PM

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robust flax Aug 2, 2024, 3:45 PM

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Nice bitch mittens

dreamy sapphire Aug 2, 2024, 4:44 PM

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FELLAS

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Meshtastic to star trek combadge bridge!

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 4:54 PM

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robust flax Nice bitch mittens

these hose clamps are sharp af and I type for a living!

dreamy sapphire Aug 2, 2024, 5:20 PM

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@quaint marlin Reseated the ipex lora connector and that seems to have fixed it. Must have been loose

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 6:15 PM

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ah yes!

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that can happen, and it has before to me

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SO THIS IS WHAT MESH COVERAGE IS LIKE

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holy shit

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I just drove my regular routes around st paul and roseville and I got acks from nearly every single location

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and I can now, after all this time, reliably message my house from my office and vice verse

robust flax Aug 2, 2024, 6:23 PM

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We need to plan a link for you to mmbs because I just found a place to link from ghost 1- 2 to that so we can 3 hop to the central core

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 6:25 PM

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yes!

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repeaters don't count as a hop

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I may put a streetlight node up as a repeater, the one I have in front of my house right now is surplus to requirements

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I'm still not sure if MMBS is really a good node, but should find out more with the new office node doing some heavy lifting/connecting

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I'm still eyeing that giant pole on 280 and larpentuer

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the westward spread on that is very helpful to a lot of mpls areas

robust flax Aug 2, 2024, 7:19 PM

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I will have to start looking when I get home if I don't take a nappy nap

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 7:44 PM

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look who showed up on my mesh map

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robust flax Aug 2, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Ooh no

junior cosmos Aug 2, 2024, 9:27 PM

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Whose that?

wide umbra Aug 2, 2024, 9:39 PM

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who dis? caught it while driving near my house with the G2 on the seat

dreamy sapphire Aug 2, 2024, 10:12 PM

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@quaint marlin Did you ever measure how much power the bandit sucks down? Might take it camping and try it as a base station

quaint marlin Aug 2, 2024, 10:48 PM

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it's a lot

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like 5-8k per day

robust flax Aug 2, 2024, 11:03 PM

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wide umbra who dis? caught it while driving near my house with the G2 on the seat

He's downtown

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 12:44 AM

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in a very tall building with balconies

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we gotta get whoever that is a real node

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 1:17 AM

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Damn, even with solar backup it might not stay positive

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I'll just give it my best lol

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 1:23 AM

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quaint marlin we gotta get whoever that is a real node

Ii did pm him asking

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 2:41 AM

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it's not a good solar option

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 2:42 AM

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well, whatever he needs i'm sure we can help since when he puts it out it does pretty darn good.

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but, didn't make it very long

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 2:47 AM

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i'll be happy to make an insane node if we can get them to agree

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g2 with a huge fiber antenna and jackery backup

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 2:48 AM

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All we can do is keep trying to make contatc

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 2:48 AM

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it's worth it for that coverage

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 3:38 AM

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robust flax but, didn't make it very long

that's what she said

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 3:38 AM

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quaint marlin that's what she said

As long as i got mines..

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 3:42 AM

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I a semi-drunken post-Manilow stupor just want to say -- appreciate the MSP mesh gang. Thanks for helping me not be the only person in town doing this 😄

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ooh, I got some random LongFast messages while I was out:

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anyone from here?

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so I'm gonna be putting up 3 maybe 4 more big nodes in the St Paul/Roseville/Maplewood areas soon, but then I'd like to shift to helping yall in the areas that aren't in my immediate area covered. Let's get a decent picture of what our coverage is like in the inner metro (and the 2nd ring burbs like @robust flax ) and I'll be happy to help address it with whatever resources I've got.

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 5:24 AM

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I think the most important thing is letting us know you're there and in an island/ hole so we can know where folks are that need a connecting link to the mesh.

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I'm also looking to build/ fill in a South to north trunk

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 2:02 PM

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I wonder how useful it would be to have a node that is ultra-accessibile that is like, a Pi or something that does nothing but act as "instructions" for new people.

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Like, it's named Message Me For Meshtastic Help and if you DM it, it just auto-replies back some best practices, a link to the discord, etc

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like a BBS node, but even simpler

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new node popped up near downtown:

wide umbra Aug 3, 2024, 2:09 PM

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I caught him last night in NE

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 2:11 PM

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BTW if anyone wanted to try doing a BBS node, I could do it at the new Roseville roof, but I could sorta cheat and put it indoors on AC power and a UPS or something, where it could use the more powerful outdoor node as a jump-off to communicate.

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and it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for me to "find" a working internet connection there so that it'd be easy to admin and tweak via non-lora channels

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 3:01 PM

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wide umbra I caught him last night in NE

I also picked him up down here 🤩

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Anyone else pickup dethbot

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 3:20 PM

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nope not at home or office yet

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definitely have at least one or two more people in roseville sending out location pings on longfast

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someone named Galen on 565c

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 3:33 PM

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I also picked up a dthq g2

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 4:12 PM

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that's me

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home hq node

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i finally put gps coords on it yesterday. that may be why it finally appeared

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 4:19 PM

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I didn't pick up cords and I think mmbs is down

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 4:31 PM

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someone launched a Balloon in central Iowa today, so you might see some interesting propagation in Minnesota today. Not sure of position and altitude though, came across as a non-MQTT gated node someone posted in the Iowa topic here. Seems like if it's a HAB it should light up a pretty wide area

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 4:46 PM

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Sweet!

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I wonder if they put an adsb on it

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 4:47 PM

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hmm, I wonder too. I checked APRS and didn't see anything

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 4:48 PM

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Me either. Bummer

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 4:50 PM

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btw, I used to live in the Metro and still make trips up there a bunch, so wave at me over the mesh if you see this call come up in the long name. Probably will be around there next Saturday, Roseville area for the Free Geek Twin Cities retro tech expo.

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 4:51 PM

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Where's the ham meet?

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 4:51 PM

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which is a public, free event. I'll have a table where I'm hoping to have a Siemens Teleprinter talking to a terminal or something. Would be fun to hook it up to Meshtastic but I'm not quite there yet.

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 5:27 PM

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regarding setting up a bbs, if someone gets to it before me, get a samsung extreme endurance SD card

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 5:28 PM

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Someone here has been working on his bbs .. m

junior cosmos Aug 3, 2024, 5:28 PM

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quaint marlin Like, it's named `Message Me For Meshtastic Help` and if you DM it, it just auto...

So that is my current plan with the bbs nodes have them setup and backhauled with private mqtt for sync and then all people have to do is message the node and get instructions on what’s going on currently etc with best practices and gaps in the mesh.

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 5:29 PM

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I've seen a bbs over mqtt but it doesnt work well

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 5:29 PM

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Speak of the devil

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 5:29 PM

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I can send mail but only if I know exactly which menus to hit, the MMs dont send over for me

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but my nodes arent on mqtt at the moment because I'm getting the chips I borrowed from brew set up for a camping trip next weekend

junior cosmos Aug 3, 2024, 5:37 PM

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So far I have 2 nodes with bbs setup. Would be nice to get the rpi and heltec’s into an enclosure but we shall see. Otherwise I today my plan is to work on getting the private mqtt up and runnning connecting the nodes to that then I’ll deploy them one at my work and the other at home currently. I’ll order more parts and in the near future I can just start handing out some bbs nodes to others with good coverage to take care of there areas.

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 5:38 PM

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having a bunch of synced BBSes across the cities would be sweet

junior cosmos Aug 3, 2024, 5:38 PM

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Right!

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 5:39 PM

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and if we get timestamps solved (I'm running into that problem now) then I think they'd be a great tool for hiking trails to give condition news

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get back to your car, leave a message that the trail is washed out or flooded or just a good time, or even if berries are in season

median beacon Aug 3, 2024, 5:40 PM

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(this is within Iowa but it's slightly northern Iowa - you may see it in MN.

junior cosmos Aug 3, 2024, 5:41 PM

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Welp time for me to hop on my soap box again. ADD a GPS to your nodes and timestamps work great!! Just turn off the position relay if you don’t want it to relay your position.

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 5:42 PM

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viral pebble btw, I used to live in the Metro and still make trips up there a bunch, so wave ...

You'll definitely get some decent coverage in the roseville area, I've got the place plastered with nodes 😄

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 5:42 PM

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does the rak RTC module solve timestamps?

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pulls a lot less power than talking to a satellite

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 5:45 PM

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median beacon (this is within Iowa but it's slightly northern Iowa - you may see it in MN.

I don't see any balloons on flightradar24... wonder if it's not up yet?

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 5:45 PM

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Fuck flight radar you noob

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 5:45 PM

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sorry, I don't have my own ATC radar system yet

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 5:46 PM

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Why not?

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 5:46 PM

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are you required to use ADSB if you do a HAB?

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 5:46 PM

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still waiting on the 60ft dish from aliexpress

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 5:47 PM

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?? I pick up a majority of mn wi and ia from my house with just a fiber

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 5:47 PM

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viral pebble are you required to use ADSB if you do a HAB?

Not sure how that works.. maybe it depends on the size ?

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And is it a hab or a weather type balloon? Every day they launch them from soiux falls and make it to 60k'

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 5:49 PM

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oh yeah, didn't think that there are various types

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 5:50 PM

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https://aprs.fi/#!z=11&call=a%2FWB0EMJ-5&timerange=3600&tail=3600

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I think this is a flight from last year?

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 5:50 PM

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yeah

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one of the reports says 100k feet

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 5:51 PM

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BTW just did some range test driving and found yet another router_client node with horrible coverage... blargh

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 5:51 PM

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ok, several. that's HAB territory I think 🙂

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 5:52 PM

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seems like a necessity that if you have a 🇺🇸 in your node name, you have terrible coverage AND you go router_client.

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 5:52 PM

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gadsden flag in the front yard too?

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 5:52 PM

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its a shame store and forward only works with router and router client

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 5:52 PM

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quaint marlin seems like a necessity that if you have a 🇺🇸 in your node name, you have terri...

Ouch

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 5:52 PM

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lol yeah instead of strapping a node to the flagpole

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 5:52 PM

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how many unecessary router clients exist because they wanted store and forward on a house node?

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 5:53 PM

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I still think it's because everyone assumes there has to be a router on any network

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 5:54 PM

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the repeater/router nomenclature is kind of confusing as a new user. I just have all of mine as client and client_mute

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 5:54 PM

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yeah I dont quite understand why router even exists

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do routers do something smarter than flood meshing?

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 5:54 PM

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I've got it on good authority to put my new rooftop node on router once the big dawg is installed

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 5:55 PM

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I only use router on my car node

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 5:55 PM

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several reputable folks in the TCC rooms have stated anecdotal/experience that having the best node in an area be a router produces great results

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 5:56 PM

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I need OFF GRID comms for the APOCALYPSE at my COMPOUND (ranch house with a chain link fence in town)

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 5:56 PM

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quit giving away my plans bruh

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 5:59 PM

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It's just a loot cache..

junior cosmos Aug 3, 2024, 6:00 PM

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dreamy sapphire does the rak RTC module solve timestamps?

It’s definitely an option but I have read a couple things where it is a pain to get the real time on the rtc in the first place and then if the node is powered off for a certain period of time you have to go through the whole process again.

That’s when personally I said fuck it give me convenience haha but none the less definitely an option.

junior cosmos Aug 3, 2024, 6:11 PM

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dreamy sapphire do routers do something smarter than flood meshing?

The mesh will rely on routers or router/clients to relay messages above all else. So if nodes know there’s a router around they won’t relay expecting the router to relay for them.

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 6:25 PM

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Ah makes sense

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 6:49 PM

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which is why it's poison for a router to be in a bad location

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 7:38 PM

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Picking up chicago spam

median beacon Aug 3, 2024, 7:41 PM

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it's from the balloon in the air which is bridging Iowa and Illinois and Minnesota to some degree. From Ametuer radio club in Cedar Rapids, IA.

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 7:44 PM

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Stevie what nodes are yours?

median beacon Aug 3, 2024, 7:46 PM

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waukee_ia

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 7:46 PM

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Okok nice seeing you.

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I guess we need a msp discord

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 8:10 PM

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I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary yet

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but did see someone else in st paul range testing

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ok now I'm getting things... Waterfall 2, router.

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 8:23 PM

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I've got a300 mile link

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 8:23 PM

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the two recents I picked up don't have location data

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 8:23 PM

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Give it a bit

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 8:25 PM

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there's the balloon

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 8:25 PM

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I don't think I've seen the balloon

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 8:26 PM

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robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 8:28 PM

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So, how much is a balloon and what do we need lmao

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 8:29 PM

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hahah

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you're gonna have to reset your node db after today lol

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 8:31 PM

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Just let them filter down I dunno

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 8:32 PM

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I don't know if/how the device's node db impacts your individual device's performance. If it thinks there's a router and it's not there anymore, I have no idea what happens. Guess we'll find out.

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 8:32 PM

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I can only assume having a db to pass on as needed isn't a bad thing?

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 8:33 PM

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well... I don't know. I've heard nothing good about performance when there are too many nodes on the mesh... but I don't know if that applies for if your device THINKS there are too many, when in fact there are a lot less.

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 8:34 PM

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I think nodes on mesh is a radio congestion deal not a db deal

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 8:35 PM

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My node list has been lit UP today

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 8:39 PM

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Where's your node

junior cosmos Aug 3, 2024, 8:44 PM

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I moved my station g2 to the south and still nothing I think I’m way too far north. 😢

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 8:44 PM

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I think it's more about the 8dbi stick doing it's job

junior cosmos Aug 3, 2024, 8:44 PM

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I bet my city solar node is getting it but then again I need to get this private mqtt back haul up fast

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 9:26 PM

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No balloon sighting for me, too far north and no mesh link down to brew

wide umbra Aug 3, 2024, 10:15 PM

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Put my g2 back up on the roof

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:34 PM

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not gonna do the on-person G2?! 😄

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@dreamy sapphire I'm scoping out ways to get a corridor out there. Are you able to scout out any spots in the area where you know you get signal from your own base hq?

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I've got a bunch of extra nodes that I can throw up to make a corridor

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:36 PM

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theres a rather tall apartment building pretty close, but it's got a sloped shingled roof

wide umbra Aug 3, 2024, 10:36 PM

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quaint marlin not gonna do the on-person G2?! 😄

That's next week

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:36 PM

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dreamy sapphire theres a rather tall apartment building pretty close, but it's got a sloped shin...

I'm more thinking streetlight nodes

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basically doing what I did for myself to get out of the topographic hole I live in

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:37 PM

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otherwise the blaine mushroom tower is what I'm eyeing, but not sure how we could get up there

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:39 PM

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I'm gonna try and find out how far north I can get ack's from my RV1 node

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I know I can get some good stuff up 35W headed toward the NSC

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:40 PM

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dreamy sapphire otherwise the blaine mushroom tower is what I'm eyeing, but not sure how we coul...

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

Tenor

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:40 PM

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what are the odds we can get a node on the ATC tower in the blaine airport?

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:40 PM

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water towers are off limits

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:40 PM

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slim to none

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I'd imagine the airport commission is very risk-averse

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:41 PM

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@dreamy sapphire with your base node on let us know where you reach via car so we have an idea where we need to hop from otherwise i would be shooting in the dark.

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:42 PM

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I gotta get the bandit waterproofed and toss it on my deck. It's the highest I could ever get it

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HOA has a hate boner for ham radio

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then I can set (the bandit?) to rangetest mode and do some wardriving

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:44 PM

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do you have a TV (dish or direct tv) dish on the roof?

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:45 PM

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I have a way you can do a waterproof bandit pretty easily. It'd just take getting a long USB cable to get it juice.

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:45 PM

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nope, they'd allow the installation, but specifically prohibit non-otard antennas

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best I can offer is a drone drop on top of the chimney

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also not sure if that flashing is steel or aluminum

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probably aluminum

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:46 PM

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you don't need a drone for that

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I can get you a magnetic node on top of that thing (assuming the node won't melt in the winter) with mah POLE!

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I assume it's steel, not aluminum

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:47 PM

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the chimney itself is most likely steel, that flashing is almost certainly aluminum

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:48 PM

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I wouldn't be so sure, I bet the whole thing is steel if some of it is.

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:48 PM

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that horizontal portion is rather thin, if I can get a measurement I can print a straddle

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:49 PM

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if only you had an attic..

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:49 PM

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So hear me out -- RAK 100x150 solar - 90deg N antenna adapter, wisblock, magnets on the back.

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lay it down flat, NOBODY will see it or care.

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:49 PM

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so risk adverse you will use a water tower or FAA flight tower but not the attic..

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:49 PM

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oh, and spray paint the antenna white.

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that will really help

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this chimney is a better node location than the attic

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:50 PM

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I did pick up a cheap drone from my dad. It doesnt do live video, but I can get video and review it later

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:50 PM

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he's risk adverese..

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:50 PM

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I think the flat portion of the chimney can just have a solar node set down there

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:51 PM

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I think so too

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:51 PM

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assuming snow pileup doesnt bury it

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:51 PM

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I wouldn't worry about that

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:51 PM

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that's what batteries are for

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:51 PM

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there will be enough battery in the node to have it be perfectly fine for almost two months at a time

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what does HWT say about your location, 25 feet off the ground?

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I guarantee you we can hide a great node on top of that chimney that nobody is going to notice, let alone complain about.

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:53 PM

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"get off my chimmeny bro"

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:53 PM

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https://www.heywhatsthat.com/?view=BWXPNTNX

HeyWhatsThat

Compute summits visible from any location worldwide

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:53 PM

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and really, even if the chimney top isn't magnetic, just resting a node on the "roof" part of the chimney stack will do just fine.

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:53 PM

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quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:54 PM

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oh we'll get you hooked up... no doubt at all.

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:54 PM

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no homo bro

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:55 PM

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lol didnt quite realize that'd be visible

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:55 PM

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just incase somone wants to get mad at me

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 10:55 PM

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robust flax Where's your node

Anything with KOBZB in the name, Mason City IA

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:55 PM

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You give everyone plenty of reasons yet somehow we still think you're alright

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:55 PM

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I'm a straight man, but I still called my garage security camera "gayrage" and the home folder in bitwarden is called Homo

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:56 PM

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ALRIGHT, not great. Don't get carried away.

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:56 PM

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viral pebble Anything with KOBZB in the name, Mason City IA

oh shit you're down there pick up anything from our area?

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 10:56 PM

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Not today. Last time I drove through the metro I only picked up one node info message, but my antenna was kind of crummy, and just in my car

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 10:57 PM

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well, if you come up 35 i promise you will get some ghostnet

viral pebble Aug 3, 2024, 10:57 PM

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I did get stuff from Chicago though

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:57 PM

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viral pebble Not today. Last time I drove through the metro I only picked up one node info me...

hang tight while I finish designing the printed window clip

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or just... buy a metal one on amazon

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speaking of, did you put that printed bandit mount on your window hanger yet @quaint marlin ?

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:58 PM

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dreamy sapphire speaking of, did you put that printed bandit mount on your window hanger yet <@7...

no, because I gave you my window clip! 😄

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I got another one, I just haven't had time to goof around with it

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I ordered some more custom cables

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 10:58 PM

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oh! I thought you got a bunch of them

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Nah

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no worries though

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I've got a G2 in each car, I'm not hurting for mobile node-ness

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all I really want to do with the bandit mobile nodes is make sure it's a sound design and works well/is compatible with anyone's car, and then start producing them for anyone who wants one

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I can't stress enough how impressed I was with the bandit as a car node.

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like a serious game changer compared to pretty much anything but a G2

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@dreamy sapphire here's my suggestion for a road sign node (on the backside of this pole)

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that'll add this:

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https://www.heywhatsthat.com/?view=I271XD4S

HeyWhatsThat

Compute summits visible from any location worldwide

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then probably see if/how that improves things.

dreamy sapphire Aug 3, 2024, 11:30 PM

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That's quite a bit of range west of the river there

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 11:37 PM

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yeah it doesn't give obvious shots your direction but I think it would still help.

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my experience so far is that well-enough placed nodes can surprise ya

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 11:47 PM

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Only if it's named plowey or similar

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 11:47 PM

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Mr. Plow, that's my name... that name again is Mr. Plow

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what I'll do is set a node up on that sign, and call it FREED0M🇺🇸 and make it a router.

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except I'll stick it to the base of the pole instead of the top.

robust flax Aug 3, 2024, 11:49 PM

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Typical

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 11:50 PM

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as more and more nodes are being discovered I'm sorta dreading the inevitable "Nodey McNodeface" popping up.

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though I won't hate it if I find one named like "DeMeshe Node"

wide umbra Aug 3, 2024, 11:53 PM

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My next one will be "Plow King"

quaint marlin Aug 3, 2024, 11:54 PM

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ngl I may be tempted to name the roseville building node in its final form "Nodezilla"

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 12:02 AM

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Going to hide a router in the basement and can it bussin

dreamy sapphire Aug 4, 2024, 12:32 AM

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I'll make a router, set a 0.001% duty cycle and call it "black hole"

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 1:06 AM

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robust flax Going to hide a router in the basement and can it bussin

no cap

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who need they nodussy ate

dreamy sapphire Aug 4, 2024, 1:09 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-gif-3944837017366223108

Tenor

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 1:10 AM

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Hey it's cheeto

dreamy sapphire Aug 4, 2024, 1:10 AM

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Hopefully he doesnt try any jumping jacks and make my house node fall off the roof when we get that up

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 1:11 AM

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quaint marlin who need they nodussy ate

https://tenor.com/view/not-today-satan-i-dont-think-so-whatever-gif-20393045

Tenor

wide umbra Aug 4, 2024, 1:55 AM

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Found another one just south of downtown mpls

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 2:06 AM

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What one is that bptrent

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:09 AM

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Got a new node near downtown going up soon:
https://www.heywhatsthat.com/?view=XPNDUF2P

HeyWhatsThat

Compute summits visible from any location worldwide

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it's "only" 4-5 stories tall but hey... coverage.

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it should help some folks get connected here and there.

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I like that one because it covers a good friend's house in NE, should help me get things connected between home and there

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I think I'm just gonna build a wooden stand for this one and weigh it down with cinder blocks or sandbags to keep the wind from taking it away. Best place I can put it is on the elevator stack.

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robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 2:19 AM

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Well, let's go tomorrow

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:21 AM

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I have to go with my friend who works in the building, he's got the roof access.

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Likely next Saturday

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also got my tablet all set up to look official when i'm out putting things on poles

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it's the $80 refurb Tab Active 2 with a $25 case/cover. Will make a great take-along so I don't have to use my phone for setting things up, and will look a little more professional.

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I'm really pleased with the quality and performance of the tablet considering it's a 2017 model.

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 2:28 AM

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Don't forget your yellow vest and hard hat

spark glen Aug 4, 2024, 2:34 AM

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quaint marlin

I'll be traveling to the home office in the Loose Wiles building across the street in about a week. Looking forward to seeing all the great coverage you folks have been setting up.

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:41 AM

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Hey that building is taller, get me up there instead! 😄

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:44 AM

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robust flax Don't forget your yellow vest and hard hat

Got it. Also have been working on my "I'm only here because they're paying me" general attitude and look.

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I may have to acquire a couple road cones too, just to make sure I'm really looking legit.

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 2:47 AM

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Yeah too far

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:48 AM

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yeah well, you're not putting nodes up on freeway signs 😄

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YET

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 2:48 AM

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Kids are getting up there and tagging them..

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:48 AM

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not the ones I'm getting

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 2:49 AM

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Blaine is full of crackheads

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:49 AM

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oh I haven't shared the place I found that may be a great magnet node spot:

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 2:50 AM

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Mounds park aero beacon?

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:50 AM

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no, just to thwack a quick magnet node up to get a bunch more mpls coverage

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that giant mast is steel

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 2:51 AM

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135' jlg will get you to the top

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Don't ask

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:51 AM

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https://www.heywhatsthat.com/?view=B9LGKVWL

HeyWhatsThat

Compute summits visible from any location worldwide

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unfortunately I don't have a 135' pole, best I can do is about 35ft, but the pole is already 25-30 feet off the ground

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 2:53 AM

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If only the great harvest grain silo

viral pebble Aug 4, 2024, 2:53 AM

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what's your typical build for a magnet node? just stick a rak wisblock up somewhere and grab it when the battery dies?

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:53 AM

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I've already got plans for the United Crushers mill

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:54 AM

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viral pebble what's your typical build for a magnet node? just stick a rak wisblock up somewh...

I've been doing a pretty extensive amount of testing on small, waterproof solar nodes.

viral pebble Aug 4, 2024, 2:54 AM

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oh nice

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 2:54 AM

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Suffice to say, nearly anything will last a pretty long time if it's made well.

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I use RAK 100x75 and RAK 100x150 solar nodes. The 150's last indefinitely

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the 100's can go at least a month, probably 2 or 3

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and I'm extremely careful about making sure that the node can't/won't fall, and if it were to, will not fall on anyone or any vehicle.

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I also go to great lenghts to make them as hard to spot as possible, and for those that do spot them, pass it off as something that's normal.

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it's easier and easier now that damned near every possible surface is covered in antennas and ugly networking hardware.

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 2:58 AM

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How dare you!

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https://tenor.com/view/you-did-not-say-that-unbelievable-incredible-how-dare-you-absurd-gif-20624986

Tenor

viral pebble Aug 4, 2024, 2:59 AM

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haha

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:00 AM

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I'm sure it's beautiful to its mother.

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there is some stuff getting put up along larpenteur in St Paul that is just downright fugly. It's on its own poles, and looks like it was designed and built by the Harkonnens.

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I'll take a pic if I remember.

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:02 AM

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Probably just small cell, cell sites

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:02 AM

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whatever it is, it's just gross.

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it's the public electronics equivalent of a hair coming out of a mole.

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:02 AM

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Whatever you need your phone man

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:03 AM

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sadly I've had a cellphone since like '94. The EMP attack can't come soon enough.

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:04 AM

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Cell sites will probably be fine

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:05 AM

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the phones themselves likely wouldn't be. Hard to say. That said, MT hardware would probably get fried too, we're covered in very sensitive antennas.

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I keep a stash of wisblocks in a faraday, why not.

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:05 AM

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Oh the MT stuff is absolutely smoked

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:06 AM

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the antennas and batteries would be just fine, just the chips would get cooked

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:07 AM

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I'm not so sure I want to have to shoot at my neighbors fighting for food etc.. just smoke us all

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:07 AM

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there's a lot of debate about what would actually happen to microelectronics. Some people say it gets physically damaged, others surmise it just basically needs to reboot.

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:08 AM

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Nobody's coming to save us. No food drops from the Brazilians

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:09 AM

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lol or from anyone

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:19 AM

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How do we do one of these balloons?

dreamy sapphire Aug 4, 2024, 3:21 AM

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quaint marlin there's a lot of debate about what would actually happen to microelectronics. So...

depends on the strength of the EMP. Really, if it's strong enough to cause damage, you're close enough to the nuke to have other, more important concerns

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(as far as I know, we do not have portable EMP bombs)

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((that arent nuclear bombs))

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the theory goes it's a strong enough magnetic wave to induce current in PCB traces

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:22 AM

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Picked up a bunch more nodes on one of my yard testing pre-deploy nodes

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robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:22 AM

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dreamy sapphire depends on the strength of the EMP. Really, if it's strong enough to cause damag...

The base idea of an emp attack it to do it in the atmosphere as to use the magnetic field to reflect and increase effect

dreamy sapphire Aug 4, 2024, 3:23 AM

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damn, surprised you got one up in brainerd

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unless thats via mqtt bridge

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:23 AM

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I dont connect to this node very often, no idea when that popped up

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:24 AM

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Also a pile without locations

dreamy sapphire Aug 4, 2024, 3:25 AM

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I went out to Dayton today but didnt pick any up

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more like west champlin

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:25 AM

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Need more pointing at the sky or high db antenna

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:26 AM

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Picked up your hq node @robust flax

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:26 AM

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Not #2?

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Actually I think my main one was the one doing the lifting

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:26 AM

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632f. No name

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:27 AM

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That's it

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:28 AM

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Node map on this one is bonkers

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78 nodes

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robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:30 AM

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Strange those 2 to the south didn't populate names

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 3:31 AM

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I dont get why the rak node with a smallish antenna thats literally 5 feet from my hq antenna gets more nodes than my hq node

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I get a ton of no-name nodes that should have names.

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I think its a symptom of hearing a node once and then not again, but im not sure.

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 3:37 AM

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Weird

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I'm interested to go check on #2 Monday and see what it has

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I've found 3 new large coverage sites similar to ghost 2 that ghost 2 will feed

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 5:56 PM

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someone over near woodbury has been slowly piling up devices over the last month or two

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 6:14 PM

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Sure would be nice if they said something. So many islands nobody home

dreamy sapphire Aug 4, 2024, 6:32 PM

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next time you get a ping, dm them the discord invite

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maybe they just dont know it exists

viral pebble Aug 4, 2024, 6:40 PM

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stick a magnet node on the underside of a Lyft that just spams the discord link every five minutes

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 6:42 PM

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I thought about that but replace lyft with a train car..

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 7:00 PM

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yeah I will try that. I haven't ever been online at the same time with them

dreamy sapphire Aug 4, 2024, 7:15 PM

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hopefully one day that answering machine moonshot idea gets implemented

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 7:34 PM

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that's actually already a thing i will be implamenting here tonight probs

dreamy sapphire Aug 4, 2024, 7:53 PM

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Well not answering machine like a bbs, more like a reverse one?

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Someone pitched the idea of holding a message in a board, and it waits until it sees the node appear and then sending it

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 8:49 PM

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Not bbs but on the main channel canned responses

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:00 PM

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that's my thought too.

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:29 PM

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This anyone? On the parking ramp (I think?) next to target field?

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the mesh map of my yard is 🔥

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oh and I had another hairbrained idea for getting a node or two high-up in downtown and/or any tall building that has balconies.

dreamy sapphire Aug 4, 2024, 9:34 PM

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would that not be quite directional?

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:34 PM

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literally just a quick flier posted nearby or the building lobby explaining MT and seeing if anyone wanted to join the fun.

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yeah it could be

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but it'd be better than nothing

robust flax Aug 4, 2024, 9:34 PM

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Ramp a since they put solar on the roof

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:37 PM

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dreamy sapphire would that not be quite directional?

even if were completely blocked on one side of the building it would have insane reach in at least a few directions, which would act as a great repeater or perhaps router

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also, I gotta get back up on that roof this upcoming week and put a 6dbi antenna on that node. not sure why I left a 3 on there.

quaint marlin Aug 4, 2024, 10:02 PM

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actually by mid-week I will have all the parts for the G2 that's going up there so maybe I'll just wait and upgrade the whole thing at once.

viral pebble Aug 5, 2024, 12:44 AM

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have you folks really increased the mesh footprint since june? I had a heltec in my car and I maybe picked up one node. but I was just around west St Paul, 694, columbia heights, those areas

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 12:53 AM

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You didn't get anything?

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:06 AM

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Columbia Heights is specifically really difficult because A) it's super hilly, and B) nobody lives there that's in on the mesh yet. WSP is a similar situation. I'm about to have a big splash of WSP covered, but not just yet.

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also I hope your heltec wasn't like... IN your car. Without an external antenna you're never gonna get any meaningful traffic.

viral pebble Aug 5, 2024, 2:07 AM

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hahah yeah it was in the car. this was early on in terms of toting around a node. I have a cheap mag mount now 🙂

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:09 AM

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My two building nodes in roseville (RV1 and RV2) are as far as I know the best chance of signal in columbia heights, here is their potential/sorta coverages:
https://www.heywhatsthat.com/?view=BSX4EMJQ
https://www.heywhatsthat.com/?view=N7KJKHSX

HeyWhatsThat

Compute summits visible from any location worldwide

HeyWhatsThat

Compute summits visible from any location worldwide

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most of the coverage sprays eastward and has troubel reaching further west than Stinson blvd

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for what it's worth it's difficult and rather expensive to expand a mesh in a dense metro area

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it also is somewhat risky, not like extremely so, but not just a trip to the grocery store, to put nodes up if you don't own or have rights to the places to mount them.

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In January there were (as far as I know) two nodes in the metro area and they were my two t-beams. Now we've got a pretty big chunk of the east-central metro and spreading quickly south and southwest. Give us a little time!

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I've got about a 10-12 square mile area around roseville and saint paul where you pretty much always get an ACK when you send a message.

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If you want to help it spread, start buyin' hardware and start finding places to put it.

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I should also add -- wardriving is not really a great way to discover nodes. As far as I can tell you pretty much have to be constantly sending out pings or you're at the mercy of any nodes' timing for when they announce their node telemetry, which by default is every 3 hours or more...and that's set by the time of last reboot, so it's totally random chance if you are driving around and a node pops up.

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I currently have all of my nodes set to announce hourly, which should increase the chances of finding one, but it's still total luck unless you're stationary for a long time.

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:20 AM

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he's from iowa bro

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:20 AM

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his disabilities are not my concern

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:21 AM

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i mean i have a heltec in my basement with a stock rak antenna on it that somehow has miles of reach..

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:22 AM

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I should also add, I go out of my way to avoid anything to do with MQTT so any node I put up, until there's some compelling reason to enable MQTT, are totally blind to it.

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I know we've got some MQTT stuff happening in the future with @junior cosmos and I'm all good with that, but I'm not about the current implementation at all.

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:24 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/i-like-turtles-zombie-kid-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-tortoise-tortuga-gif-16340543

Tenor

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:24 AM

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I feel like its current state gives a false sense of how connected your mesh is, and that won't do anyone any good if the internet became unreliable or unavailable.

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:24 AM

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i don't know anyone who has that mqtt on besides ichi

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but that's not the normal mqtt anyway

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:25 AM

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He's got a legit reason to do it, given geography and distance. Hopefully we can make that not a necesssity

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I have a reasonable expectation that a solid 50% of the entire metro area will be somewhat reliably meshed within the next 1-2 months at the rate we're doing things.

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EVEN @dreamy sapphire's CHIMNEY

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:27 AM

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tbh if people would speak up we could work on their area

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:27 AM

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and oh I got a node ready for that chimney.

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dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 2:28 AM

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oh bitchin

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:28 AM

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his HOA is going to seize his property

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 2:28 AM

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not one, but two spirals

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:28 AM

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YES

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 2:28 AM

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IT'S SO SPIRALEY I'M GONNA DIE

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:28 AM

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robust flax his HOA is going to seize his property

something something cold dead hands something something

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 2:29 AM

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"oh must be those neighbor boys with their drones, you know how it is"

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:29 AM

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that's going up with the super-duper-pole.

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 2:29 AM

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(I'm the neighbor boy with the drone, but they dont have to know that)

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:29 AM

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it'll be a 30 second install.

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:29 AM

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something tells me @dreamy sapphire isn't huuge into pews

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 2:29 AM

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the only reason I havent 3d printed one is that I dont have the spare cash for a chimes kit

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:30 AM

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you don't have to brag about it to be into it

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:30 AM

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bro a yeet cannon is only 150 bucks

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 2:30 AM

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I got the family Rossi with a butt extension and my wife has a little rifle

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:31 AM

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you're gtg then

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 2:31 AM

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good nuff

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:31 AM

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if you need more, you know where to find me

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:31 AM

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that's all you need to keep those dirty commies at bay

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i have a small pile of p80's in the closet

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:33 AM

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so back to the node -- you really can use this one. It could literally just sit on the flat part of that chimney and be a very good node. It's got a 1W amp in it, it will last indefinitely on solar power.

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just paint the antenna white with $0.50 worth of krylon and you're gold, nobody will ever see it.

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that whip will never catch enough wind to ever move it, and if for any reason it needs to come down, it would be a ladder away.

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 2:34 AM

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I'll have to dig through my paint bucket and see whats around

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:34 AM

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Everyone should make one of these tho.. total riot

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dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 2:35 AM

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something tells me @robust flax plays Destiny

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 2:35 AM

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quaint marlin so back to the node -- you really can use this one. It could literally just sit ...

we'll make a date of it sometime :) heading up north this weekend to go camping so we'll see how the bandit handles the woods

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:35 AM

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that's pretty slick, what is that LR or WMR?

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:36 AM

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lr

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:36 AM

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I go the canned TX22 route

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thing makes more noise if you drop it

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:37 AM

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i do like my g44

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but that was for giggles and it is fun to shoot

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:37 AM

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when we meet up I'll show ya the USW320 I carry

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:38 AM

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not huge on guns that fire themselves... lol

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:38 AM

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pssh, that's old hat

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:38 AM

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but, that's pretty slick

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:39 AM

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if you have a 1st gen and keep it chambered. I build my own, including the FCU

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thousands of round through all 3 of mine, never anything but reliable and accurate.

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sig figured out the auto-boom issue years and years ago, any stories you hear about it now are people that got them and never updated them, or people that got them for duty and their department never bothered to update them.

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:40 AM

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condition 1 for life..

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there was recent scuttle that it has been happening on the new varient as well who knows

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:41 AM

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and/or ultra-recycled news stories.

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I've only gone condition 1 twice, and both times it was because there was hot activity in the building I was in.

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otherwise I have no interest in shooting my own asshole out because the pax counter at menards tugged on my belt. This ain't dodge city, if you can't draw, rack, and fire in 2 seconds you shouldn't be CCWing

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I would honestly say if you don't practice at least twice a month you shouldn't be CCWing.

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not like a hard and fast law, but just a rule of thumb.. you should be sharp and practiced if you're packing.

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 2:50 AM

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next thing you're going to tell me red dots are bad

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 2:50 AM

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they are definitely not bad

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I don't use them for my belt carry but do for basically everything else

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I even stopped a mugging in dinkytown while I was armed, but didn't even draw. Guns are great don't get me wrong but they're not the answer to everything.

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anyhow only point I'm trying to make is that conidtion 1 is crazy. I'm willing to bet it's caused more trouble than it has solved over the years.

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:14 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/crazy-roberto-futurama-knives-nuts-gif-18076002

Tenor

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also now that the FRT's are back to fair game you should look up the chuckle button

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:18 AM

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Not my style.

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:18 AM

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Bro, when in france..

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:18 AM

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Semi is just fine, the govt isnt paying for my ammo

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 3:19 AM

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my wife works for the state, so... technically the gov pays for mine

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I use the "state funded taco bell" joke a bit too often for her tastes

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:19 AM

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" lovingly supplied by kim jung waltz"

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:22 AM

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Plus i personally have a friend that got a letter from you know who, and it’s all fun and “will not comply” games until you have to choose between feeding your family or spending months in court or worse.

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 3:23 AM

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thats why I keep things on the up and up

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in unrelated news, I have an STL for a 3d printed ipod nano 4th gen to picatinny rail adapter if anyone wants that printed up

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:23 AM

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There’s plenty you can do without poking the bear.

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:24 AM

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dreamy sapphire in unrelated news, I have an STL for a 3d printed ipod nano 4th gen to picatinny...

whole new meaning to playing a tune

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:24 AM

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I miss ipods.

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 3:24 AM

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go buy one

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:24 AM

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I had the original

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 3:25 AM

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they got ssds that fit in the originals now that hold a gajillion songs

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:25 AM

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And the original mp3 player

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 3:25 AM

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and I reckon it's hackable now so you can skip itunes

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:25 AM

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i have another device that holds a bazillion songs and i don't have to buy them

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annd i can troll people i don't even know with it from anywhere!

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https://tenor.com/view/smile-bruce-willis-happy-chewing-gif-14787952

Tenor

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:27 AM

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Wait a minute,are you into meshtastic so you’ll beable to troll ppl even when the grid collapses?!

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I knew it!

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:27 AM

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multiple avenues

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 3:28 AM

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more of a boulevard kinda guy myself

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:28 AM

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Back alleys here

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 3:28 AM

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spiderman is that you?

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:29 AM

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I don’t wear glasses so i am unqualified to be a super hero with an alterego

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:29 AM

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gah my eyes are going crazy the last month or so

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 3:30 AM

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I'm in dire need of new glasses

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I've got insurance, I just havent gone and done it

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:30 AM

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Mine are finally starting to degrade a bit

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:30 AM

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not sure i want to get new glasses yet since i'm not sure if it's just progressive degridation or, chemo caused

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:31 AM

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Everyone in my family has needed glasses most oftheir lives. Ill be 50 next year and have never needed em

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Told ya i was old

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 3:31 AM

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you dont look a year over 60

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huehue

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:34 AM

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robust flax not sure i want to get new glasses yet since i'm not sure if it's just progressi...

Can just get a cheap set, aslong as it’s just single vision

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:35 AM

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maybe we will see this week once some results come in and i meet with my new transplant team

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https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-president-presidential-debate-sleepy-joe-disagree-gif-7929505249295119210

Tenor

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:36 AM

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Thats not your doc i hope

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 3:36 AM

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the economy is so bad even Biden's job is being taken by an indian

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nobody is safe

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:37 AM

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We could just let chatgpt do it.

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It’s not like anything new has been said in decades.

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I mean we’d still beat the same 50/50 of a hallucination instigating nuclear war.

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 3:40 AM

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Terminator was a documentary

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:41 AM

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meh, there's only 3 MAD actors.. everyone else is just looking to take a pop shot and then wait for the flash to black

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:42 AM

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will be a documentary. Or did we pass the timeline already.

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:43 AM

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not sure whomever's left is into docuseries.. the sothern hemisphere is looking mighty nice tho

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:44 AM

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Alright grampas going to bed. See you fools later.

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:44 AM

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don't forget your geritol

candid grove Aug 5, 2024, 5:23 AM

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I have mine going in Mankato

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 5:24 AM

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I believe theres a south of the cities channel too

viral pebble Aug 5, 2024, 12:32 PM

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Oh I hope my question didn’t come across as a dig, I was about to say the number of nodes looks like it’s really climbed since I looked online back in June when I first started getting into MT. Was a compliment 🙂

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 1:17 PM

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viral pebble Oh I hope my question didn’t come across as a dig, I was about to say the number...

yeah tbh I read it as a dig, and usually that's not the default way I read things that could be read that way 😄

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Appreciate the clarification 🙂

viral pebble Aug 5, 2024, 1:40 PM

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I mean I was the doofus with a heltec with a quarter wave antenna in a cupholder lol

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I didn't realize the attenuation with 900MHz was that bad until I did more research before putting up a solar node and iterating on that

viral pebble Aug 5, 2024, 2:31 PM

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have any of you folks thought about approaching local amateur radio clubs to see about putting a node on a local candy cane?

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they might insist on ham mode, but could do both ISM and cleartext nodes

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:17 PM

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viral pebble have any of you folks thought about approaching local amateur radio clubs to see...

the idea has been tossed around. I believe @wide umbra is in a HAM club and I seem to recall him pitching the idea of using their repeater tower in Richfield (on top of a building) - not sure if there's been movement on that yet.

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I have access to a decent amount of rooftops via friends and colleagues, and some other folks here do as well via work or personal connections.

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I'm not sure what happens if you put a node in HAM mode, will it still repeat encrypted traffic if it's set to just repeat everything?

wide umbra Aug 5, 2024, 3:33 PM

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quaint marlin the idea has been tossed around. I believe <@697835043103440977> is in a HAM clu...

working on it. it's gonna be a whole thing, but hoping i can wear down the repeater trustee

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:36 PM

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wide umbra working on it. it's gonna be a whole thing, but hoping i can wear down the repea...

Where's the repeater

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 3:38 PM

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Cable Santa showed up!

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 3:44 PM

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Micr

viral pebble Aug 5, 2024, 3:57 PM

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quaint marlin I'm not sure what happens if you put a node in HAM mode, will it still repeat en...

the docs don't specify that rebroadcast mode changes (that I can find). If all encyption is illegal (it isn't, just obfuscated messages that aren't documented. it's literally a null key in the default channel) then it seems it would be also illegal to retransmit packets. ALL mode specifically states it rebroadcasts messages with other encryption settings

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seems like the appropriate rebroadcast mode would be LOCAL_ONLY for ham mode

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 4:04 PM

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It's all semantics

viral pebble Aug 5, 2024, 4:17 PM

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yeah, I doubt it's ever been tested

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 5:04 PM

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If ham means an radio can't be encrypted, then that also means they can't use wifi, so I bet there's some common sense

viral pebble Aug 5, 2024, 6:09 PM

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I believe amateur radio uses of wifi typically don’t use encryption but I haven’t looked in a while. This stuff https://www.arednmesh.org/

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 6:10 PM

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Ugh, I sometimes can talk to yetiwurks and sometimes cant

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I wonder if that connection is just hitching a ride with someone on 65 every once in a while

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 6:17 PM

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I seriously doubt it

quaint marlin Aug 5, 2024, 6:24 PM

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I've never had any more than node info from yeti

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I think I got an ack from it via car G2 a few months ago

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his node(s) will help once we get some signal out there but until then it's not doing much

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 6:28 PM

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65 would be an easy corridor to cover. Someone just needs to fund the project and have a need I guess

wide umbra Aug 5, 2024, 6:29 PM

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viral pebble I believe amateur radio uses of wifi typically don’t use encryption but I haven’...

ppl are running ssh over it. seems the general consensus has been it's not getting talked about so far

viral pebble Aug 5, 2024, 6:32 PM

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I’m no snitch…

wide umbra Aug 5, 2024, 6:33 PM

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my guess is aredn is such a small niche thing yet it's not really a concern yet. wait for it to start getting abused in a noticeable way and it'll get a microscope im sure

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 8:14 PM

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viral pebble I’m no snitch…

Exactly what a snitch/ fed would say

candid grove Aug 5, 2024, 8:50 PM

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viral pebble have any of you folks thought about approaching local amateur radio clubs to see...

Of course the depends on the amatuer, but most of the towers we are on are because of pure luck or through begging the owner to let us in for cheap. I'm not saying it's not worth asking, but you might get mixed results. Any ham radio person worth anything won't care if it's not in the ham frequencies as long as there is a benefit to them or the area.

candid grove Aug 5, 2024, 8:51 PM

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viral pebble I believe amateur radio uses of wifi typically don’t use encryption but I haven’...

Yes, no encryption allowed.

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 9:20 PM

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I'm taking my radios camping this weekend
After some review, I discovered a small hole in the STL that would make water ingress trivial
It is forecasted to rain this weekend

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I gotta fix the model and reprint two mobile units

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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 10:15 PM

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dreamy sapphire I gotta fix the model and reprint two mobile units

I can whip some prints out really fast if needed

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 10:18 PM

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I have until thursday, but one of them needs a second sma antenna modelled in because I'm borrowing the rak from the car node and its btle antenna is stuck in there

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Shouldnt be too hard to whip up

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 10:39 PM

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Otoh don't trust prints to be water tight! Make sure you paint it

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 10:41 PM

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just gotta be rain resistant-ish

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 11:19 PM

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do yourself a favor give it the dirty cover with a rattle can

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but, you do you

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Well, if they last a week between charges I'll just saran wrap it

robust flax Aug 5, 2024, 11:44 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/crycat-crying-cat-crying-cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-ok-gif-17048449662472934214

Tenor

dreamy sapphire Aug 5, 2024, 11:58 PM

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I swear it's a temporary fix dont give me that look

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it's just for the weekend

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if I get serious about waterproofing I'll pick up a can of conforming sealant

robust flax Aug 6, 2024, 12:03 AM

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Only a bad temporary fix is temporary

fading torrent Aug 6, 2024, 5:19 AM

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robust flax

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robust flax Picking up chicago spam

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robust flax Aug 6, 2024, 6:13 AM

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fading torrent We’re not spam 😂🙄

it was the visit chicagoland discord or .org that was spamming it's cool

dreamy sapphire Aug 6, 2024, 6:15 AM

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Pocket node 2

dreamy sapphire Aug 6, 2024, 6:30 AM

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theres a small gap in the model that I just filled with superglue pepe_feelskek

robust flax Aug 6, 2024, 2:39 PM

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Did you use Ramen first?

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But wait kim jong waltz for vp!?

wanton moth Aug 6, 2024, 4:28 PM

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Very new, just got my first node's fired up. I intend to put one up on the roof for a repeater and wonder what a good 'rubber ducky' would be for it. It will be solar powered with lithium battery, getting the case put together now and want better than the little rubber duck antenna it came with.
Thanks!
QTH = Robbinsdale near new water tower.

dreamy sapphire Aug 6, 2024, 4:30 PM

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I took the pressure seal valve out of my peliclone and while its the same width as an SMA connector, its the wrong thread pitch

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Damn, could have saved myself a drilling

quaint marlin Aug 6, 2024, 6:05 PM

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wanton moth Very new, just got my first node's fired up. I intend to put one up on the roof ...

You can never go wrong with the ALFA915 ... cheap, tough, works great. I assume you're using a N bulkhead? or are you going SMA?

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If you're using N female bulkhead, these are the two most versatile:
https://store.rokland.com/products/alfa-aoa-915-5acm-5-dbi-omni-outdoor-915mhz-802-11ah-mini-antenna-for-lora-halow-application?ref=tc2
https://store.rokland.com/products/4-dbi-helium-hotspot-fiberglass-outdoor-antenna-bracket-mount-for-rak-bobcat-nebra-sensecap

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ALFA AOA-915-5ACM 5 dbi Omni Outdoor 915MHz 802.11ah Mini LoRa Antenna

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4 dBi N-Male Helium Hotspot Fiberglass Outdoor Antenna & Bracket Mount

This is an outdoor fiberglass encased omni-directional 915 MHz N-Male antenna with 4 dBi gain. Also included is an outdoor bracket designed for mounting to a pole or PVC pipe. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RAK MINER ITSELF. This antenna is compatible with the RAK V2, Bobcat 300, Nebra Indoor, SenseCAP M1, Kerlink, Linxdot,

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both can screw directly into the bulkhead. The fiberglass one comes with mounting equipment but it's not really needed in most cases.

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if you're doing SMA, these are the best (IMO) outdoor-rated whip.
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/taoglas-limited/TI-96-A113/21777696

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TI.96.A113 | DigiKey Electronics

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quaint marlin Aug 6, 2024, 6:15 PM

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wanton moth Very new, just got my first node's fired up. I intend to put one up on the roof ...

I would suggest leaving your rooftop node as a client until you are more familiar with the surrounding mesh situation.

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