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karmic junco
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Supplied

misty gorge
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I've never opened mine up.. but I'll bet it's just some 18650s spot welded together. I'd rather be able to replace the cells.

karmic junco
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Mine isn't even soldered. It's battery holders with springs

misty gorge
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they power my ice fishing electronics in below freezing temps..work great.. so much lighter than a 12v SLA.

misty gorge
karmic junco
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For picture reference

misty gorge
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wow.. cheap too.

karmic junco
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Was cheaper than that

misty gorge
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you can just keep them plugged in.. it has a BMS and all?

karmic junco
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I think I paid like... 10?

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Yes bms..

misty gorge
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power goes out it keeps 12v?

karmic junco
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Full time active power

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There's no cutover

misty gorge
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its always running on the batt?

karmic junco
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From what I can tell, it's not like the inverter has to kick in

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And I don't see any relays

misty gorge
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but the batteries just stay charged.

karmic junco
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Yes. Well, you can do this with a 3s bms with separate inouts

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Inputs

misty gorge
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seems like a great solution for parking dash cams too.

karmic junco
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Ya. Has a USB out

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The only bad thing is I don't see a balancer

misty gorge
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meh.. replace the cells.

karmic junco
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Lol

misty gorge
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that's the nice thing about your unit.

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cheap and effective.

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until a rando 18650 catches fire.

karmic junco
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It works. Standard 12v barrel plug in

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I've got the smaller ones roo

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Too. Those are cute

misty gorge
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I've crossed paths with many 18650s and have only had one give me problems

karmic junco
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Two cell versions

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You have to buy those for your specific output voltage

misty gorge
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yea.. 7.4v or whatever is a weird voltage.. but good for usb devices I guess.

karmic junco
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For dash cam if your still using the 12v power cord this would kinda work (though you'd need an cig outlet to barrel adapter). Car on would charge it.

karmic junco
misty gorge
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dash cam companies charge like hundreds for their parking battery packs.

karmic junco
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Well this will do it

misty gorge
karmic junco
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You basically get 5000mah at 12v

misty gorge
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okay.. I need to sleep.. you win.. haha

karmic junco
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Certainly the unit I have isn't as fancy

misty gorge
karmic junco
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Lol. Hahahah. Gnight. It's a good idea

misty gorge
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nights!

karmic junco
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(sleeping)

midnight mural
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Is one encrypted and one not because of FW?

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misty gorge
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You're not messaging the nodes directly so it should not matter.

thin rivet
midnight mural
misty gorge
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Both will relay packets encrypted or not.

south stone
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So I bought a cavity filter

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lets see if it helps with the bad Rx

bronze wren
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Very curious on the filters too.

abstract iron
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do any of our common chipsets have known missing or weak filters?

glossy pine
abstract iron
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have the donk ZLLP facing southwest from Chel right now

inner helm
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how many nodes have you deployed? I';ve seen the mesh get a LOT better in the last year

abstract iron
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🔥🔥 cdef

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fervent nebula
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Is there a reason that we're recommending to set "OK to MQTT" false?

jaunty harness
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personal pref, I can easy get 80 nodes over RF that fill up my NodeDB and UDP is way better for a backhaul

fervent nebula
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filling up your nodeDB would be if you're downlinking from MQTT, not if you're allowing your packets to go there.

rare sparrow
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The fun of Meshtastic is that it does not require any Ethernet

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MQTT kinda defeats the purpose

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(At least for me

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inner helm
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i loved seeing CDEF

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I had one that was 0212, percet for manhattan

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too bad itit's not 1212

cerulean thorn
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patchthe firmware and make your own id heh

south stone
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Linux port allows u to set any MAC address

jaunty harness
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we've got enough nodes here i've seen a short name collision

cerulean thorn
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i could just yeet UDP to my node to and do evil things

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doing a vendor review... they have RDP and DBs exposed to the internet

fervent nebula
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I no longer have that vendor.

midnight mural
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That is indeed spicy!

jaunty harness
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LOL have a vendor that claimed to support customer install of their software.. only took 2months to actually install because SURPRISE they never actually had a customer perform 100% of the setup before and kept feeding me conflicting/erroroneous instructions (and would occassionally get belligerent that I wasn't able to intuit "Do A, B then C" which came with Images for A, B, and D actually meant to do A, B, E, F, D, then C)

rare sparrow
jaunty harness
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yeah, i thought we were finally done too but now need to go through upgrade process ... wweeeeeeeeee

karmic junco
glossy pine
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I gave a node to a friend on riverside in the 90s to keep in their window and actually got a LongFast msg from them yesterday in Williamsburg via grandst

fervent nebula
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Gonna give a couple of nodes to a buddy who's going to Puerto Rico. gotta spread that mesh 😄

fervent nebula
brazen spear
jaunty harness
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hehe I was at 294 on the window node last night but restarted meshtaticd and went back down to 27something it's been kinda stuck at and still not 100% if it's the rain, HAQER being away so I can't mesh through him or the femto actually needing a timeout to think about how it's not behaving properly

glossy pine
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Without grandst I feel like half the nyc connections would collapse

jaunty harness
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or we could just setup camp on the williamsburg bridge and rotate shifts 😆

midnight mural
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I hope one day to hit those numbers, I only got there in SoCal 😦

jaunty harness
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me and a.lien should turn ALL of ours on, +50 easy

abstract iron
woven trellis
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I may have caught a bug (second node is up) in window. So I can take the t-deck with me on walks 🙂

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jaunty harness
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added INA3221 to monitor the solar and battery power, and redid my janky power bodge to be less janky...getting there

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midnight mural
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Looking good! I like how things often progress forward in little bits.

fervent nebula
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oof, you can really see the data impact of only recording the OKtoMQTT packets. Went from 90+nodes active in a 30m window to 2-6.

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jaunty harness
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some places like boston rely on it to expand their coverage, particularly north

brazen spear
karmic junco
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Morning!

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Well my not so little solar thing appears to be working.. though will not keep a wyze can powered very long.

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At least it proves though that it does power cycle itself once it gets enough charge

midnight mural
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Hopefully the solar nodes get some juice this week, weather forecast seems a little better

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Looks like a break tomorrow and some sun

misty gorge
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Both my nodes are still above 4v.

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amber edge
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@jaunty harness how high is vernon2?

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brazen spear
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Yes that's correct it's the third image

jaunty harness
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oh that reminds me, is it cool if we use some of your pics for banners on https://nyme.sh/ ?

amber edge
knotty jacinth
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i'll take a look

jaunty harness
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huh, PRK0 decided to turn itself on 20hrs ago and I only just noticed 😬

daring moth
jaunty harness
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nodes turning themselves on random and then draining lipo battery to 2.97V

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also try and keep my # of active nodes minimal

daring moth
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Is the person running the node with the short name PARK in here?

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jaunty harness
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that's one of Willard's I believe

abstract iron
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hey I got prop in Greenpoint today. T1E clientmute and donk 1W in backpack

jaunty harness
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heh you climb a tree in McCarren?

abstract iron
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weirdly antenna in backpack means not vertical orientation either. (bike side bag)

whole basalt
daring moth
whole basalt
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Yes, thank you. I have been trying different settings and antennas and didn't think I was sending. I have a friend I gave a node to and I heard him but wasn't heard. I thought something was wrong with my node. Was able to communicate with him before.

daring moth
whole basalt
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Interesting. Can I use Meshsense to tell if I'm broadcasting. I only thought of that as I was going to bed.

daring moth
daring moth
whole basalt
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I just wanted to make sure my node was working. At present I don't have another node, but expect one this week.

whole basalt
terse gull
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how is medium fast testing going?

midnight mural
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I was on MF a few weeks back, I’m in a dead zone in midtown, so not a peep for me

jaunty harness
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I still have node up, probably take it down for a few days to see if it helps with current TX issues i'm having

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haha and of course it just worked when I tried 🤷

midnight mural
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It worked for me too, having conversations with myself, but no other contacts

fervent nebula
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I have a MedFast up near SST, the positioning for the antenna isn't the best (hoping to move it tomorrow). No contacts yet.

last basin
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Wondering if anyone saw my messages today? I’m experimenting with having my default channel as a secondary.
I can hear both of my nodes. But I haven’t heard back from anyone.

jaunty harness
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welcome! when you moved your secondary channel did you also readd the PSK AQ== , set freq slot to 20 and depending on which app/platform, set the secondary name to LongFast ?

last basin
jaunty harness
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ahh yeah that's what I was alluding to... iOS/mac you leave it blank as it should automagically use LongFast vs Android and I believe webapp need to manually set it - though still in work mode so half wondering if I'm remebering that in reverse (need to set on iOS / Android auto figures it out)

last basin
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I wiped my T echo back to stock and I can communicate with myself so I guess the mesh is just quiet today!

Thanks for putting eye on it

jaunty harness
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no prob!! but be mindful wiping a node you'll lose the private encryption key and may have some funkiness with messaging until another node picks up the wiped node's new public key (since that's derived from the privatekey which changed)

midnight mural
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anyone see the Technodrome yet?

jaunty harness
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I get why people desolder LEDs more than ever

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jaunty harness
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Hilariously I got the message on the workbench client mute but not the window node which relayed it

midnight mural
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the Technodrom is 32cd

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where is that in the meshtastic web client?

jaunty harness
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OH! well that I don't seem to have in the nodedb 😭

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that pic is iOS, have app -> workbench node to keep an eye on it / 1min environmental/power telemetry

midnight mural
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yeah I made a screenshot (I made a funny) and I read it there, but have not come across it in the web client

proven grove
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@jaunty harness - I need your big brain. gpioget sees it and all pin actions, but meshtasticd doesn't want to be bothered with it.

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jaunty harness
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ooooo alley cat's case

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wipes up drool, looks closer

jaunty harness
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or is it just the encoder isn't working / not the expander?

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yeah i don't see anything PCF8574 in the source so there's no builtin support for the i2c expander, i guess is there a reason you're using that vs native gpio pins?

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otherwise, if it is showing up to linux as native gpio pins it may just be a portduino pin: # thing?

south stone
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what mqtt server are folks here using?

rare sparrow
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Not using MQTT at all

proven grove
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So, the firmware doesn't necessarily need to see the expander, it should just see it as an additional GPIO bank. the config.yaml file isn't all that well documented outside of the examples for Lora radios and certain other things.

jaunty harness
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ahhh k, there are some but means losing something else. there's one example cfg in particular that I found useful to figure out how to use multiple pins across multiple gpiochips which is lora-raxda-rock2f-starter-edition-hat.yaml

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figuring out the line # is actually super easy, echo # > /sys/class/gpio/export && gpioinfo | grep sysfs && echo # >/sys/class/gpio/unexport (as root, # = the "gpio#" not the board pin #, not the portduino pin #)

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it'll likely be on gpio5 / chip 4 at minimum as luckfox pico is 4 "chips", numbered 1-4 but gpiochip ids are 0-3 because HAHAHA OF COURSE

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and you should see gpio34 on gpiochip1/lane2 in use by sysfs as that's the activity LED and gpio118 is the user LED on the pico mini (vs non mini which is just 118 as only single LED - #BABELFOXTHANGS)

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well that's a new record for me - bit under 3hrs and the fresh CLIENT_MUTE hit 80 nodes

proven grove
# jaunty harness figuring out the line # is actually super easy, `echo # > /sys/class/gpio/export... 
--w------- 1 root root 4.0K May  7 22:36 export
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 May  8 00:22 gpio34 -> ../../devices/platform/pinctrl/ff530000.gpio/gpiochip1/gpio/gpio34
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 May  8 00:22 gpiochip0 -> ../../devices/platform/pinctrl/ff380000.gpio/gpio/gpiochip0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 May  8 00:22 gpiochip1016 -> ../../devices/platform/ff460000.i2c/i2c-3/3-0020/gpio/gpiochip1016
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 May  8 00:22 gpiochip128 -> ../../devices/platform/pinctrl/ff560000.gpio/gpio/gpiochip128
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 May  8 00:22 gpiochip32 -> ../../devices/platform/pinctrl/ff530000.gpio/gpio/gpiochip32
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 May  8 00:22 gpiochip96 -> ../../devices/platform/pinctrl/ff550000.gpio/gpio/gpiochip96

And herein lies my dilema:

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jaunty harness
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gpiochip1016 1000%

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does sudo gpioinfo 4 work? (0-3 are the femto's builtins)

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otherwise can just run sudo gpioinfo and whatever is after 3 which is only 24 lines/pins vs 0-2 which are 32 lines/pins

proven grove
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it does and getgpio gpiochip4 0 even sees the events with the pins.

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the expander is only 8 pins

jaunty harness
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k, so then yeah you just need to figure out the portduino pin # though it def gets funky with the extra expander

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it ends up being like gpio# - ((15 * 8) ... ish

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or I guess no, 16 * 8 cause (4 + 4 + 4 + 3 + 1 * 8) banks

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(this is the part where my brain starts to hurt)

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what # do you use when you twiddle it via /sys/class/gpio ?

proven grove
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femtofox% sudo gpioget gpiochip4 6
1
femtofox% sudo gpioget gpiochip1016 6
gpioget: error reading GPIO values: No such file or directory
jaunty harness
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yeah gpiochip4 is chipid, the 1016 is some other /sys/class identifier but I think it's banks but not sure

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1016 + 6 would be gpio 1022 but then.. how to math that to portduino #

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what happens if you do echo 1022 > /sys/class/export && gpioinfo 4 | grep sysfs | echo 1022 > /sys/class/unexport - does it show line 6?

proven grove
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this came from the femto config for 1262:

---
Lora:
## Ebyte E22-900M30S, E22-900M22S with or without external RF switching setup
## HT-RA62 (Has internal switching, but whatever)
## Seeed WIO SX1262 (already has TXEN-DIO2 link, but needs RXEN)
## Will work with any module with or without RF switching, and with TCXO
  Module: sx1262
  gpiochip: 1 # subtract 32 from the gpio numbers
  DIO2_AS_RF_SWITCH: true
  DIO3_TCXO_VOLTAGE: true
  CS: 16 #pin6 / GPIO48 1C0
  IRQ: 23  #pin17 / GPIO55 1C7
  Busy: 22 #pin16 / GPIO54 1C6
  Reset: 25 #pin13 / GPIO57 1D1
  RXen: 24 #pin12 / GPIO56 1D0 # Not strictly needed for auto-switching, but why complicate things?
#  TXen: bridge to DIO2 on E22 module
  spidev: spidev0.0 #pins are (CS=16, CLK=17, MOSI=18, MISO=19)
  spiSpeed: 2000000
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note the gpiochip: 1 # subtract 32 from the gpio numbers

proven grove
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root@femtofox:~# echo 1022 > /sys/class/export && gpioinfo 4 | grep sysfs | echo 1022 > /sys/class/unexport
-bash: /sys/class/export: Permission denied
jaunty harness
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yeah that happens to work because they're all on the same gpiochip, if you look at /etc/meshtasticd/available.d/lora-raxda-rock2f-starter-edition-hat.yaml you can see how to address pins on diff gpiochips: MISO: # MISO PIN_21 -> chip 4, line 11 pin: 21 gpiochip: 4 line: 11 Reset: # NRST PIN_12 -> chip 1, line 13 pin: 12 gpiochip: 1 line: 13

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proven grove
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i ran it as root lol, and still got a permission denied lol

jaunty harness
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OH derp echo 1022 > /sys/class/export && gpioinfo 4 | grep sysfs && echo 1022 > /sys/class/unexport

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had | instead of &&

proven grove
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root@femtofox:~# echo 1022 > /sys/class/gpio/export && gpioinfo | grep sysfs && echo 1022 >/sys/class/gpio/unexport
    line   2:      unnamed      "sysfs"  output  active-high [used]
    line   6:      unnamed      "sysfs"   input  active-high [used]
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missing the gpio in your command

jaunty harness
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k, then seems like that rediculously high value 1022 is valid for a gpio#

proven grove
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yolo lol

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andddd nope

jaunty harness
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heh yeah i guess 1022 - (16 * 8) = 894 but then... I'd try pin: 900 in the cfg

proven grove
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Using /etc/meshtasticd/config.yaml as config file
Also using "/etc/meshtasticd/config.d/femtofox_SX1262_TCXO.yaml" as additional config file
Also using "/etc/meshtasticd/config.d/femto_config.yaml" as additional config file
meshtasticd.service: Main process exited, code=dumped, status=11/SEGV
meshtasticd.service: Failed with result 'core-dump'.
meshtasticd.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 1.
Stopped Meshtastic Native Daemon.
Started Meshtastic Native Daemon.
Portduino is starting, VFS root at /root/.portduino/default
Set up Meshtastic on Portduino...
Using /etc/meshtasticd/config.yaml as config file
Also using "/etc/meshtasticd/config.d/femtofox_SX1262_TCXO.yaml" as additional config file
Also using "/etc/meshtasticd/config.d/femto_config.yaml" as additional config file
meshtasticd.service: Main process exited, code=dumped, status=11/SEGV
meshtasticd.service: Failed with result 'core-dump'.
meshtasticd.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 2.
Stopped Meshtastic Native Daemon.
Started Meshtastic Native Daemon.
Portduino is starting, VFS root at /root/.portduino/default
Set up Meshtastic on Portduino...
Using /etc/meshtasticd/config.yaml as config file
Also using "/etc/meshtasticd/config.d/femtofox_SX1262_TCXO.yaml" as additional config file
Also using "/etc/meshtasticd/config.d/femto_config.yaml" as additional config file
meshtasticd.service: Main process exited, code=dumped, status=11/SEGV
meshtasticd.service: Failed with result 'core-dump'.
meshtasticd.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 3.
Stopped Meshtastic Native Daemon.
Started Meshtastic Native Daemon.
Portduino is starting, VFS root at /root/.portduino/default
Set up Meshtastic on Portduino...
Using /etc/meshtasticd/config.yaml as config file
Also using "/etc/meshtasticd/config.d/femtofox_SX1262_TCXO.yaml" as additional config file
Also using "/etc/meshtasticd/config.d/femto_config.yaml" as additional config file
meshtasticd.service: Main process exited, code=dumped, status=11/SEGV
meshtasticd.service: Failed with result 'core-dump'.
meshtasticd.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 4.
Stopped Meshtastic Native Daemon.
Started Meshtastic Native Daemon.
Portduino is starting, VFS root at /root/.portduino/default
Set up Meshtastic on Portduino...
Using /etc/meshtasticd/config.yaml as config file
Also using "/etc/meshtasticd/config.d/femtofox_SX1262_TCXO.yaml" as additional config file
Also using "/etc/meshtasticd/config.d/femto_config.yaml" as additional config file
meshtasticd.service: Main process exited, code=dumped, status=11/SEGV
meshtasticd.service: Failed with result 'core-dump'.
meshtasticd.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 5.
Stopped Meshtastic Native Daemon.
meshtasticd.service: Start request repeated too quickly.
meshtasticd.service: Failed with result 'core-dump'.
Failed to start Meshtastic Native Daemon.
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900 caused a similar error

jaunty harness
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but yeah it's the weird gpio# -> portduino pin# where i'm stuck on the babel.. there's also a whole decoding scheme for the like 1C0 / 4A2 labelling but it's just for the gpio# not the portduino pin #

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and then yours is extra weird cause of the # jump from 128 (gpiochip4)

proven grove
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thats the rockchip, there's a method to decode it somewhere i just don't have it handy

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go get some sleep, im gonna do the same

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i WILL crack this

jaunty harness
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heh, luckfox has the same labelling on the pico / pico mini

proven grove
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but not tonight

jaunty harness
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word

fervent nebula
# south stone what mqtt server are folks here using?

If you want to share your info with the stats pages (dash, meshview, meshinfo) mqtt.nyme.sh will accept mqtt packets using default creds (meshdev / large4cats) on the base topic msh/US/NY. It's currently write-only (uplink only) to keep the mesh in radio space instead of bridging on the internet.

abstract iron
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well and the t1e (4422)

final flower
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If anyone is interested I have a custom built Rak solar node complete with 8dbi antenna and jpole mast. Local pickup only (everything is already built) just add batteries (4x 18650’s which I will include). I currently have a similar one on my roof and it’s been working great for over a year now. No water leak issues or solar charging issues. This one was built for a friend who never got around to installing it so it’s been sitting not used. All connections are sealed with coax tape and then wrapped with electrical tape. Rak board recently updated to 2.6.x firmware. - $300

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glass marsh
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so "ROBB" has been replaced by "Titi" a new solar node sitting on the 28th floor balcony of Cadman Tower looking south towards SI. "BBS1" will get a new 8.5db gain antenna today so hopefully you guys will be able to get a reply from it

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what is everyone using for an amplifier to get the TX power up to 1 watt from a heltec v3 ?

rare sparrow
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unknown repeater again 🤦

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glass marsh
# jaunty harness not sure on amps, a lot do 1W by using E22-900M30S radio module

hmm thats a bit more involved then im looking for... any experience with this thing https://www.amazon.com/Wytino-Amplifier-Included-915MHz-Connector/dp/B07XKRDJVV/ref=sr_1_8_sspa?crid=26L6X4A90YR3I&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.nWV-7kuuFVTob8W0T5PAKvrz0liP9fo3v7XcyqHkpuLrwNNRRceGMiR7Qdch8Dv8Pz2fLrXwzyqKvh8naJJTFw.hpfMsfY8TWmAGJr-yDoDepZOzfQBlaVF8RrIOUPQw8Y&dib_tag=se ?

Wytino Power Amplifier RF Power Amplifier Included 1PC 4.0W 30dB 91...

Features:
brand new and high quality. Power gain: 30dB. Long-term stable This amplifier, easy to use. This is professional amplifier module with standard SMA female connectors.
Package Included:
Power gain: 30dB
Maximum output power:

  • 33dBm (2W @ 5V, 1.2A)
  • 36dBm (4W @ 6V, 1.8A)
    Harmon...
glass marsh
abstract iron
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is that amp two way? i.e. can you receive back through it

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side note asking AI how amps even do that

glass marsh
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haha that is a good question

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so that one isnt... but this one is https://www.amazon.com/JMT-863-870Mhz-902-928Mhz-Amplifier-Transmitting/dp/B0DQBJVR91/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1YHK42WQ4THK6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.inTnPV_BIeVmugd7ttFS4T7brIh8wpCRRBRrqli5sPZObm73g7kqS_Y-9hkaMjcZs0sl8qc3OISI_kIGKVuh_JreZVxFGiRfmTw01uC6sb59azWnTFNbHxXkt9mIGaomIJzqOaZY2sw2CMdVn_IeiVbyPAzd_KW_ugl2jSOEuCcLEzNp25Hys07Ifz4cfJN2EgkX7Pl6OdrC5WD0QQP_HH3-yxQmvCYWldx6V2t1psY.M6C9qO_vwz8ONQHwgKrxQ9R4xE-fmK7yokeIueZFsX0&dib_tag=se&keywords=915mhz%2Bamplifier&qid=1746716315&sprefix=%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-3&th=1

JMT Two-Way Lora Signal Booster, 863-870Mhz / 902-928Mhz Power Sign...
  1. This 868MHz signal amplifier module is a two-way amplified TDD working mode ,that is the transmit power and receiving sensitivity will be amplified equally.
  2. The receiving/sending link has a high degree of isolation, and the receiving link can withstand strong external interferen...
glass marsh
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ordered one... we'll see how it does

proven grove
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I gave all my v3's away about a year ago... That's like the fisher price version of a meshtastic node.
I read this and it translated to "How do I turn this super soaker into a flamethrower?"

glass marsh
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lol so what do you recommend?

proven grove
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Is 1W a requirement? or just something you want to pursue?

glass marsh
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my antenna is in my attic and it seems like thats effecting my tx power. I receive msg's ok but the replies go into the ether

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i'd get the station g2 but out of stock and who knows how much it will cost with the tarrifs

proven grove
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i don't have a G2 nor would i want one. Beautiful node, but very limited on customization IMHO. But thats just me.

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For a 1W, you could do a MeshAdv Pi Hat, a Washtastic, a Femtofox.... (looks around room for any other ones I have)

jaunty harness
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(Rabbit Lab's hat, Ikoka, Donktastic)

glass marsh
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i dont really need anything too customizable, just need something that works. The femtofox is also sold out and the rest look like projects that i unfortunately dont have the time for

proven grove
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And you know better than to bring up Ikoka in front of me....

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Donk i have no opinion on as i've never built or used one.

jaunty harness
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there's a new "stick" version of the node that shall not be named in your presence, it's kinda like a donk and spearmintastic had a lovechild

proven grove
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Babel was supposed to be 1W with that E21 amp.... but right now it's still vaporware.

proven grove
jaunty harness
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neat that it'll work with either esp32 or nrf xiao and 30S and 33S, and can swap an N-type connector for the SMA so there's some flexibility / variation you build

proven grove
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ok thats pretty cool

rare sparrow
rare sparrow
jaunty harness
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shove it in a pvc pipe with an apt "not a bomb" sticker

glass marsh
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BBS1 has a new antenna, see if you guys get a reply

jaunty harness
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just tried but no reply - last seen 20hrs ago @5hops so no surprise there

glass marsh
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didnt get your msg either

jaunty harness
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yeah I'm at 3 hops which is why no reply isn't a surprise

midnight mural
glass marsh
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where?

midnight mural
glass marsh
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says sold out

midnight mural
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2 left!

glass marsh
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thats for EU only

midnight mural
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Well that’s BS, I’m not in the EU, why would I want that?

#

I signed up for in stock emails and I got that today

jaunty harness
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NomDeTom does EU orders, Open Source Country does the US ones 🤷

rare sparrow
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Noice

glass marsh
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hey there we go

rare sparrow
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Not very reliable tho

glass marsh
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i got your msg's but yeah reply didnt get to you... thats why i need MORE POWER 🙂

rare sparrow
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1 W node!

glass marsh
#

btw, the bbs has a replication feature to other bbs nodes, so if anyone else wants to throw one up we can try that out

midnight mural
abstract iron
#

the repl is it IP, mqtt, ...

glass marsh
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No just over the radio, you just have to specify the nodes to replicate with

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I assume it will keep trying to replicate until it gets a confirmation

abstract iron
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oh wow

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interesting

south stone
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its just... in the open

karmic junco
proven grove
karmic junco
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I am not sure. I was up by mohonk

proven grove
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thats about 1.5 hrs north of where any of my nodes would be.

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karmic junco
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I should look at my texho

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Echo

inner laurel
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Hello new Mesh user here, just got online and my node is named "Little Spanky" located in Rahway, NJ. I was able to see no c638 off the coast of Coney Island.

jaunty harness
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Welcome to Discord and the mesh!!

rare sparrow
edgy blaze
midnight mural
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My nodes are usually 🍕 short name and TMNT themed long name; Casey Jones, Pizza Delivery Dude, Technodrome......

frail grotto
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P2NY is up and running and looks like it's helping get across Manhattan

edgy blaze
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So what’s up with Assman?

jaunty harness
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they like BBLs, no judging

glass marsh
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ASS Man is me 🙂

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BBS1 has the new amp attached

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no saw filer yet, but seems to be working well

#

send BBS1 a msg to test pl

sonic prism
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saw BBS1 from Rahway NJ the other day but was unable to transmit back to you with my T-Echo (upgraded antenna) or SenseCap

glass marsh
#

should be better now, give it a try when you get a chance. The node is in SI

glass marsh
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May 09 17:23:12 pibbs python3[903]: 2025-05-09 17:23:12 - INFO - Received message from user '68SD' (!7b12600f) to BBS1: BBS
May 09 17:23:12 pibbs python3[903]: 2025-05-09 17:23:12 - INFO - Sending message to user '68SD' (!7b12600f) with sendID 211863313: "💾TC² BBS💾 (✉️:0)\n[Q]uick Commands\n[B]BS\n[U]tilities\nE[X]IT\n"

abstract iron
#

what was that software that can route messages over Meshtastic, Afsk1200, etc? you can define routes ..

karmic junco
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Mqtt

abstract iron
#

ergh base LoRa not Meshtastic

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but this is what I found before

inner laurel
edgy blaze
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Give it time.!

rare sparrow
#

There’s another Pizza guy in Chicago 😂

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Chicago has A LOT of nodes!!!

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Keep getting new node has been discovered every 15 secs

normal osprey
normal osprey
rare sparrow
#

Well I’m glad

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That means we have a lot of potential

jaunty harness
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7 hop tracerouters 😭

0xa2e98660 --> 0x1b40352b (-2.25dB) --> 0x849ba1a8 (-18.50dB) --> 0x43b5b010 (-5.50dB)
...(5.25dB) 0x60902bcf <-- (-14.25dB) 0x56748ef <-- (-4.00dB) 0x3c2c37a5 <-- (-16.50dB) 0x75e19e64 <-- 0x43b5b010```
normal osprey
#

Back home and finally changed the Domino Park node to core portnums only (after they fixed the iOS bug). Hopefully that helps with my ch util. Thanks @rare sparrow!! 🙏🏻

jaunty harness
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don't forget to thank Uno 😉

rare sparrow
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🎉🎉🎉

midnight mural
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I brought my t1e to Spain…..gonna fire this bad boy up soon….hope people are on the 863 or whatever it is and not 433

midnight mural
abstract iron
#

Wait Pizza you're in Spain? def tell us how it goes

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going to have my nodes in Portugal this summer

abstract iron
karmic junco
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Is that a "I dunno how it for here" message?

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I need to actually have more than 20 min to sit down and reflaah this unit

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It's still the default old verison

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(not on the card one)

midnight mural
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He he, doooty cycle lol

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karmic junco
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3.0 can't come quickly enough.

whole basalt
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Just set up a another node and when I try to send a direct message, I get "no channel". I am sending to my old node which is close by. The new node is a Rak board. Everything else works fine.

normal osprey
# abstract iron welcome back. how was EDC

Thanks! This was a trip to SF where I used their Medium Slow mesh with much success.

EDC on Short Fast slot 80 is next weekend. Will definitely report back how that goes!

last basin
normal osprey
last basin
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Good segue into a question actually

I currently have ipex to SMA and then SMA to N type.

I like being able to use a small whip when I’m in motion and a fiberglass whip when parked.

Am I leaving performance on the cable by adapting twice? Should I just put the fiberglass whip on and use an ipex to N type?

jaunty harness
#

you're likely losing some signal in the cable and adaptor but marginal amount you'd need to measure/quantify if you reaaaaally cared but could probably do some basic test with another node directly connecting from a fixed position closeby and going off the firmware's reported SNR

abstract iron
#

stuck my solar node to the exterior window with velcro and suddenly 🔊

magic turret
#

Hi all - just introducing myself - I’ve got a couple nodes on the mesh in NYC under the long name “MeshGuy.Net xxxx” and trying out the use of emojis as short names. Haven’t done much with the domain name yet but definitely appreciate the nycme dot sh info.

jaunty harness
#

Welcome! I always figured you were too busy meshing it up to do something with the domain 😄

abstract iron
#

Is there a better node monitoring software than MeshSense yet? never got it working with all the nodejs stuff

normal osprey
#

We should add on the nyme.sh site that we are using the default LongFast slot 20.

abstract iron
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I was thinking about this and watching people travel elsewhere. For any city actually recognizable as a destination, people will do the upfront work to figure out what local is running. If we decide mode X is good enough, we can just switch to it.

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Without worrying that the default LF won't be widely visible or used

jaunty harness
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that still abandons anyone new who gets their first device, fires it up, and just sees a bunch of already abandoned/unmonitored ROUTER_CLIENTs

abstract iron
#

ok sure so still an... every x hour robot, like Berlin?

#

genau

jaunty harness
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rename AMR1 -> "We're on MF" but keep the old firmware so it'll aggressivly try and exchange nodeinfo 😄

twin root
#

Did anybody see my messages that were relaying through my drone today or no

abstract iron
#

time location nodeID?

karmic junco
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feeb: from where?

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I saw nothing today. not a thing. Other than my own nodes right at my house. That was sad.

twin root
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Was flying in Upper Saddle River

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It had decent LoS but I could have been higher. Where i was was not that high and max legal alt is 400ft

karmic junco
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400 above any structure

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so if you find a building 400 ft, you can go 400ft above that, as long as its not restricted airspace

twin root
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Yeah it was my buddies house so couldn't get on the roof

karmic junco
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i.e. an antenna sending station (even if decomissioned) is technically.. a building.

#

No, you don't need to physically be on the roof

twin root
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Really???

karmic junco
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when the drone goes above the roof, you can go 400ft above the roof

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its one of the questions for the faa107a

twin root
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Wow dude I just googled it your 100% right that was NOT on the test

karmic junco
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it was on mine!

#

1600ft is the AGL

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lol. not that my rinky dink 40 dollar costco drone can fly 400 ft.

twin root
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Wow

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This is wild I didn't know this

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So if the structure is less than 400ft I'm good to be anywhere within 400ft of it at structure height + 400ft AGL

karmic junco
#

well, the last wording makes it confusing.

abstract iron
karmic junco
#

https://www.dronepilotgroundschool.com/kb/can-i-fly-my-drone-higher-than-400-ft-agl/#:~:text=Under Part 107%2C a Remote,the structure's immediate uppermost limit.

Drone Pilot Ground School
Can I fly my drone higher than 400 ft. AGL? - Drone Pilot Ground Sc...

Under Part 107, a Remote Pilot-in-Command cannot fly an unmanned aircraft higher than 400 feet above ground level (AGL), unless it’s flown within a 400-foot radius of a structure and does not fly higher than 400 feet above the structure’s immediate uppermost limit. So if there’s a 1,200 ft. telecommunications tower, you can inspect it […]

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they have a great image.

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So you can go 400 ft around the "tower" as I spoke of previously. Even if its super pointy at the top (like the empire state building) you can fly a 400ft radius around that point.

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and 400 feet above

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now someone help me find the update for the sensecap indicator

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ok found it.. its not on the wiki so to speak but it is in the flasher

karmic junco
#

ugg too tired today. time to sleep

jaunty harness
#

@proven grove pinch me
INFO | 05:25:39 0 lr1121 init success

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that's just the E80, tomorrow we fiddle with E21

proven grove
jaunty harness
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cut 3 traces + 4 jumper wires

proven grove
jaunty harness
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instead of trying to sort out the pin # I just moved them to chip 1 BUT I was also fiddling in luckfox-config disabling PWM and it could have been either, tomorrow i poke more

proven grove
#

did you get a sim for LTE yet?

jaunty harness
#

well the current design is nonfunctional, but if i get it working then it's literally "ok here are the changes"

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i have one around but i haven't messed with that other then playing with AT commands to confirm the thing is actually functional

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but now it's 2/3, so hopefully get the e21 going as well and then it's a fucking miracle

proven grove
#

how are you going to inform Fire of the changes? a PR? lol

proper mango
#

Moving to nyc in a few months will get a node online. I’ve worked with a bit of commercial mesh stuff so will be good to have a hobby. Will follow here in the meantime 🙏

midnight mural
#

If I wanted to make my own “personal node database” is that something one can do? What do I mean? I travel for work and I want to backup all of the nodes my device sees, locations and everything, just to visually see all the nodes in places I visit.

abstract iron
#

good question. does the favorite feature help with this? it isn't exposed to android app so idk

fervent nebula
#

This can easily be done on a raspberry pi or something you carry with the node, so you always have access to it locally

midnight mural
#

Hmmmm, ok, I like where this is going. I guess the problem I see with this is, I’d want to do this from my t1e, and I guess I’ll have to sync it regularly because of the 80 node limit. There is a pi I generally travel with, so I wouldn’t have WiFi to connect to……

#

Wait, if I’m running Meshtastic cli, could a script that pull the node db over usb?

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Because at that point, I’d do the local mesh stick AND my mobile t1e…

abstract iron
#

I'm scanning the CLI but I wonder if this is more a question of whether you can upload nodes, not download, because the latter must be possible to run the UIs

midnight mural
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I’m not looking to upload the node db, I’m trying to download it.

I guess part two, visualizing the data, comes later, but I don’t want to lose anything after the 80 the device stores

abstract iron
#

oh you can do --nodes it looks like

jaunty harness
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Yeah meshtastic —nodes can “dump” the db but there’s a bunch of characters you’d want to sed out or convert to , then you have a csv which is perfect to import into another flavor of db

#

ideally, meshtastic itself could have some sort of --output option to specify csv/tsv/json/xml/whateverbut that's beyond my python

jaunty harness
jaunty harness
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someone better with regexes could def clean this up but .... meshtastic --nodes | sed -E -e 's/│/,/g' -e 's/═//g' -e 's/├//g' -e 's/─//g' -e 's/╒//g' -e 's/╤//g' -e 's/╕//g' -e 's/╞//g' -e 's/╪//g' -e 's/╡//g' -e 's/┼//g' -e 's/┤//g' -e 's/╘//g' -e 's/╧//g' -e 's/╛//g' -e 's/ //g' -e 's/^, //g' -e 's/ ,$//g' will produce a mostly csv-ish list

abstract iron
#

ayo stacked sed

#

what is in there is it utf8

jaunty harness
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extended ASCII

midnight mural
#

Oh sweet, so this is def doable.

jaunty harness
#

definitely doable, basically need something to transmogrify the meshtastic --nodes output to something that's more portable, csv in this case, which then import into a spreadsheet or some or db for long term use. can even get a little fancy with a script on the pi that just listens for the node to be attached and automatically dumps the db

midnight mural
#

Yeah, that is a bit out of my wheelhouse meow, but that is why we tinker 🙂

jaunty harness
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hehe as it says on my github profile tinkering until it works 😉

jaunty harness
#

speaking of tinkering until it works... it would appear the cursed Babelfox is FINALLY actually working as expected, or at leas the E80 radio + E21 amp - need to give some time to keep running and then check on the SNR #s and try and see if there's noticeable diff then get back to making it work AND not stealing the LTE Modem UART pins 8/

glass marsh
#

Talking about amps... The one I got from above works really well

#

10 miles apart. Consistent traces

cerulean thorn
twin root
twin root
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10dbi of insertion... is dubious for those chinese fiberglass antennas. I have some brand name taoglas and Rokland antennas (like 5 extra) if you want one ranging from 5 to 10dbi. I bought a bunch off of a Helium miner that went bust and they are just sitting in my apartment

twin root
# glass marsh nice

ill try a few more times but not getting a trace to you direct or otherwise. -15.5db means we bascially cant hear each other :/

#

Those nb-iot boosters are interesting but their insertion range is SO wide so your basically going to blow your recieve capability out if you use it alone. If you get that + a 915mhz cavity filter your gonna be golden on the RX and TX 👍

inner laurel
twin root
frail grotto
#

woo that's great I've been looking at meshsense and looking at the connections and glad it's helping.

#

I have to fix it gps it's close to washing sq park

jaunty harness
#

@proven grove got it working with 2 cut traces + 3 jumpers, still unsure if the E21 is working yet though it should be, and I appear to have killed the LTE Modem's UART cause it's no longer responding to my AT commands in my experiments even after setting the WAKE_UP pin high

#

might be able to get it going with 1 cut + 2 jumpers, there's extra layer of funkiness from using foxbuntu which is targeted at the mini that uses pin#34 for the activity LED which non-mini lacks, I changed it to 118 in the scripts but I still haven't tried using that pin for BUSY as it's originally wired up but was one of many things thats working on a diff pin

karmic junco
jaunty harness
#

Babelfox ... apparently I am the only one int he world with a working one since the creator never built one and a.li3n wisely said "fuck this shit" cause it's got some issues

karmic junco
#

woah

#

thats some accomplishment for sure

jaunty harness
#

would be cooler if i hadn't also killed the LTE Modem so could get back to playing with it / seeing if it'll take a SIM for a real connection, and still not 100% the E21 amp is working yet, and pretty sure the battery circuit isn't working right, and i need to try and get the PCB ethernet working again instead of my ghetto soldered chopped cable and.. yeah it's got issues but it's RFing at least which the PCB fundamentally won't do cause of miswiring

karmic junco
#

all this on mothers day!

#

Im just checking out the nyme.sh site

jaunty harness
#

LOL this was like a month of hour or two late at night and constantly having to restart from step 0 cause i'd forget where i left off

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and like a solid week where i put it so far aside it took 30mins to locate when i finally decided to get back to it (pretty sure i subconsciouly buried it out of site)

proven grove
karmic junco
#

Glad to have smart people like you.

jaunty harness
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hehe tbh: some of the problems sorting out were def me-related

karmic junco
#

because I would have given up and cried.

jaunty harness
#

the biggest RF issue is pin choice, CS isn't wired up from the luckfox so needs a jumper but IRQ/DIO9 is instead wired to that pin so needs to be cut/jumpered

karmic junco
#

im still nibbling at 3.0 to bring new life into the 1276's

proven grove
#

I just decided to focus on other things like trying to get the Lyra up and running with an actual radio. But EVERYONE on that project is dragging their feet trying to get that SDK working (and by dragging their feet, they have other projects going on or personal stuff), and my neckbeard isn't long enough to figure it out on my own.
Part of my problem is that Luckfox's SDK tools are primarily built on Windows, which I haven't owned for ~10 years... until now.

karmic junco
#

I have ubuntu and a RPI running... but literally, they JUST got booted back up after 6 months of being off.

jaunty harness
#

from messing with building my own images for pico mini when i first got it their tooling is very... bespoke

#

and yeah i ain't got time for that shit either

proven grove
#

I'm ok with the Pico SDK, because OSC/Josh really built up the support for it. Neither have had time to touch the Lyra really.
I finally got mine working on Wifi, but it's still not seeing the radio, but i did such a janky job of wiring it, i wouldn't be surprised if it was something i did.
Then again, an M33 sitting ON a project bored soldered straight onto it might not be the best solution for this lol.

jaunty harness
#

hey now, my first DIY was me finding a waveshare module while cleaning some stuff up and having a xiao nrf already - deadbug wired but super janky so then slightly less jankified onto project boards sandwiched together

#

then i found all the much much better versions people were doing

karmic junco
#

I for the life of me cant figure out why I bought the xiaoesp32s3

#

I think it was chieap

jaunty harness
#

yeah $10, and there wasn't an nRF kit version at the time

proven grove
#

Trust me... I get it.

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jaunty harness
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I eventually added OLED

proven grove
jaunty harness
#

that sure looks a lot like the node that shall not be named

karmic junco
proven grove
#

Technically I made two lol

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jaunty harness
proven grove
karmic junco
jaunty harness
#

the waveshare module seems so silly to me now, sure it's easy to use but it's also like (2) Wio1262 / HT-RA62 / RAD1SH and even (1) E22-900M30S or E80-900M2213S

jaunty harness
proven grove
jaunty harness
proven grove
#

im jaded, thats all

jaunty harness
#

yeah, totally fair - it's not perfect but it works well for me

karmic junco
#

If its of any comfort, we all benefit from early adopters and tinkerers.

jaunty harness
#

babelfox however... oh boy do i get being jaded on a build

proven grove
#

the old ones, before he figured it out, didn't have any boost whatsoever, so it was just feeding sub-5V to the M30S and it was barely working, but everyone saw the M30 and thought "OMG 1W!!!" but that was false.

#

the Xiao-BLE was a step in the right direction, but still fell a little short because it needed power and battery too (or something, i still have some hack-jobs wired up)

karmic junco
#

wow. they signed a prescription drug price cut

#

(that was unexpected- guess I can stop going to canada)

jaunty harness
proven grove
jaunty harness
#

golf would kill me if he saw those leds

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karmic junco
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its so pretty

jaunty harness
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i guess you can't tell cause kapton/led glare, but 33S

proven grove
jaunty harness
#

liberty_meshmess is so apt, and i actually love how flexible it is

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I* built a 33S version for buddy with socketed promicro so he can pop it out and use it as hat or standalone, or whatever

proven grove
jaunty harness
#

haha yeah i ended up screwing up a throughhole with that one but was able to jumper wire around it

#

it's just super easy to make pi hats with, even with the extra mosfet/resistors for 30S/33S

karmic junco
#

You guys are so way outta my league

#

Do you guys rememebr one of the first internet controllerd things was like a robot you could control to move things around?

midnight mural
proven grove
glass marsh
#

Currently running without a filter and the RX from Titi went from -2 to about -5. Still ok, but yeah a filter should help.

karmic junco
#

morning !

#

anyone play with a tdeck?

daring moth
karmic junco
#

Is it worth it?

#

I kinda like that its just a fully built keyboard device

daring moth
# karmic junco Is it worth it?

It's not the easiest to type on. Additionally, the internal antenna version includes a very low quality antenna. Otherwise, it works pretty well.

karmic junco
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IT looks like a blackberry keyboard.

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I figured it would just be blackberry overruns from back in the day

daring moth
karmic junco
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I dont think I could make it this week, but maybe next time.... would you buy it again?

fervent nebula
#

I have a t-deck plus as well. Its cute, the keyboard is 100% a blackberry overrun or clone, complete with the weird trackball. I wouldn't buy it again until the mui is better. It's too inconsistent for me. I keep flipping it back into bluetooth mode and just using the regular client on my phone.

karmic junco
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Im playing with MUI on a sensecap indicator

#

which I believe should be around the same thing as what is on the tdeck

#

its.. come a long way

fervent nebula
#

it's definitely better than it was.

karmic junco
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its some of the UI interface stuff that is a bit of not what we're used to. Like back/forward for previous menus

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but my thought was to get a tdeck for the kids so that they could message me without cellular connection

fervent nebula
#

I will say that with the internal antenna and the included battery (I haven't cracked mine open yet) the battery life is reasonable for a mobile comms unit, I had mine powered all day at PAX East with a few contacts and charged at night in my hotel room. It feels physically lighter than I expect from a device that looks like this, remembering how heavy the actual blackberry devices were.

karmic junco
#

How is it possible that I can get a confirmed delivered message but can't get an update on the connection

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Sorry I should say it says acknowledged

frail grotto
#

I've basically have been using my tdeck on Bluetooth mode

karmic junco
karmic junco
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Like that's not a tiny device anymore. Lol

frail grotto
#

I need to look after a few nodes, make the maps on the tdeck are not great and the UI is a bit lacking

#

I can quickly swap and disconnect from my phone if I want

karmic junco
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Well, at least my equipment works. Kinda

#

Just.. no signal. Hahaha

#

Anyone get my longfast test

jaunty harness
#

t-deck uses lilygo's version of a blackberry-like keyboard, you can get actual blackberry kbs that have an esp32 to make them usb-hid device or bt - I have a standalone one I got because I had a standalone lilygo keyboard and it's asssssss and the same person made an entire pi-zero based handheld that also uses the bb kb and it's not even close of a comparison

karmic junco
#

Assman spotted

#

It's funny how ass is bad but ass is what we chase...

glass marsh
# karmic junco

Where are you at? ASS is in SI with a yagi pointing toward manhattan / downtown brooklyn

karmic junco
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I'm at 420 northern blvd

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In great neck ny

glass marsh
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that would be the right direction... wow im surprised you're picking it up

karmic junco
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5 hops

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Surprised because I get shit at home and I'm like 2 mile away from this location

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Even weirder...

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Except...

glass marsh
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try more elevation.. i had my antenna in the windows on the second floor and wasnt getting much, moved it about 8ft higher into the attick and was a whole difgferent story even though it had to get throught roof shingles

jaunty harness
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shingles are easier to penetrate than concrete and steel

twin root
twin root
glass marsh
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true, but if the filter itself has say 2bd loss then the diff is only 1db.. I have one of those 18$ saw filters on the way. I'll see how it does

restive cave
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Hey guys, which MQTT topic do you all use?

I tried msh/US/NY but I get a “Bad file descriptor” error

fervent nebula
rare sparrow
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The official one has been giving people some issues

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🥲

restive cave
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Interesting, looks like it resolved itself. Wish I got a screenshot

rare sparrow
fervent nebula
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the official mqtt server has been mostly broken for over a month. I just added info on the nyme.sh page for the mqtt server I'm collecting from for the page.

rare sparrow
fervent nebula
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I've been thinking about trying to pull data from the official server to cross-over, but I don't want to accidentally duplicate packets.

restive cave
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Ok thanks @fervent nebula I just updated to that server 👍

fervent nebula
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Also i'm going to be on site at SST tomorrow, if the rain holds off I'm hoping to pull Quasimodo out of the tower and get it actually mounted correctly to take over for the window unit.

abstract iron
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dracooling are you saying you'll be doing an outdoor install? regardless pretty cool

fervent nebula
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once it's in place and working I'm going to swap the SST name to the tower unit and take down the window unit, for redeploying eventually at another site I have in mind 😄

tough acorn
karmic junco
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Sorry my "except" comment was interrupted

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This is technically a seeed talking to a 1762... Right?

glass marsh
midnight mural
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Speaking of BlackBerry keebs….I was just given this! Will travel pretty well if I want to pair it with a raspi

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jaunty harness
karmic junco
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Anyone have a moment for my t beams saga?

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Welp at this point... I'm taking all sx1762s out of service

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I can't reliably depend on them to do anything.

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On meshtastic

fervent nebula
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Oh?

fervent nebula
karmic junco
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Sorry the 1276. The one that is incompatible at the moment

fervent nebula
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yeah, I'm going to phase mine out too. I still like the t3s3 so I just ordered a pile of sx1262 nodes to replace them all.

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probably going to move the 76's to monitoring positions

karmic junco
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Well until 3.0 comes out. At least

scenic trench
rare sparrow
midnight mural
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I’ll be seeing chitown mesh this fall.🍕cities are awesome

jaunty harness
#

will you be tracking down their pizza guy ... perhaps for some 🍕 ?

midnight mural
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Oh right!!!!! Maybe we have a joint pizza party!!!

proven grove
karmic junco
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morning

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welp, I've left a 18650 battery for almost a year now- through all the seasons, half baking in the sun, on a motion sensor. Its still working.

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I should probably take it out and do a cpacity test, but at this point.. I think Im going to take out one of the battery slots of those temu trail cam solar panels and shove in that wio sx1262 combo

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though I don't know the power consumption

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but damn if this thing isnt tiny enough

jaunty harness
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heh which wio kit, esp32 or nRF? either should work, the nRF just would last longer

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nRF also has ADC to monitor battery voltage which esp32 lacks but both have the battery pads

karmic junco
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esp32

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oh wait... I did get it. lol

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Card Tracker T1000-E Charger
Accessory -- PCBA with 6 magnetic
cables
114993534 8504909090 CHINA $7.90 1 $0.00 $7.90
XIAO nRF52840 & Wio-SX1262 Kit for
Meshtastic
102010710 8543709990 CHINA $13.49 4 $0.00 $53.96
XIAO ESP32S3 & Wio-SX1262 Kit for
Meshtastic & LoRa
102010611 8543709990 CHINA $9.90 2 $0.00 $19.80
SenseCAP Indicator for Meshtastic®
& LoRa®
114993532 8543709990 CHINA $47.90 1 $0.00 $47.90
XIAO ESP32S3 & Wio-SX1262 Kit with
3D case for Meshtastic & LoRa
113110064 8517629990 CHINA $17.90 2 $0.00 $35.80

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apparently I got... 4

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esp32s3's were for my constant power applications

jaunty harness
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hah nice! easy way to tell is esp32 kit is in a blue/clear package, nrf is a green/clear though they just switched packaging to a plastic case per a blog post yesterday

karmic junco
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Not going to say your wrong...

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or I just got some weirdo version

jaunty harness
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oh weird, they also changed the esp32 kit to green!

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(also: nice kb!)

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What I have, blue was from preorder

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karmic junco
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oh weird!

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The saitek? It belonged to a good friend of mine who sadly passed away

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and I found myself lacking in terms of knowledge and tech stuff.. but seeing what you guys are doing fills a big void in big brain power.

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I prefer the daskeyboard he gave me (which I have used for close to 20 years) its more tactile. This saitek is a big more spongy feeling.. but is significantly quieter.

jaunty harness
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haha I've had a das before - it's nice but kb tech has def caughtup in the interim. I'm probably going back to another Unicomp when the current chinese 96-key finally dies... just a little too cramped and I can't quite roll my fingers the same on it's smaller profile

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note: I'm also one of those weirdos with unlabelled keys, which was nice back in the times when people worked in offices cause NOBODY EVER would touch my kb when they saw the lack of labels

karmic junco
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The das is nice. guess its what Im used to. I haven't really used much others as far as keyboards go. I had an old keyboard (from when I was a kid) that still used the full PC pin out. I used that until college- then added a pin converter to PS2.

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I still keep the ol keyboard around becuase I still have my old IBMPC... running dos 3.0.. 8088 process with 640k!!!

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man, I kept that sucker going for a decade... continued doing service as my dialup to do IRC. lol.

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dedicated download over 10base T ethernet... oh those were the days.

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speaking of which.. anyone interested in a DEC alpha?

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I think I have it on 3.5 workstation as it was the last one I could get my hands on with an alpha edition.

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3.5 server... maybe.

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free scsi drives too.. for those willing!

daring moth
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https://geti2p.net/en/

I2P Anonymous Network

Anonymous peer-to-peer distributed communication layer built with open source tools and designed to run any traditional Internet service such as email, IRC or web hosting.

karmic junco
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I'd have to look at it more in detail, but how is it different from Zerotier?

daring moth
fervent nebula
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i2p is more like TOR than Zerotier.

daring moth
jaunty harness
#

Heh aren’t both right? It’s The Onion Router

fervent nebula
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In fact, we can usually spot people who haven't read any of our website (and have instead learned everything they know about Tor from news articles) by the fact that they spell it wrong.
Or people who haven't visited this page on the project in years because it's genuinely not useful and don't feel the need to deal with pedantic bullshit?

jaunty harness
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HAHA year, I remember it always being capitalized when it was first making waves - I should ask my buddy whos run an exit node for years which he thinks is right

karmic junco
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lol

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More ironically... I still cant see shit.

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I added a giant antenna to the wio sx1262. They talk to everything just fine- (well each other)

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but just not enough ummmph

karmic junco
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where is @daring moth

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he's my closest link! I've also found middle east queens is also kinda sus... very little activity.

daring moth
karmic junco
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womp womp

karmic junco
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Nobody sees any nodes that start with PX right?

jaunty harness
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366 nodes, no PX but may only have !userid and not full NODEINFO for full name

karmic junco
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what was that heatmap thing called?

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Im about to send a solar node out on a piece of styrafoam onto the bay...

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(not serious..... or maybe)

jaunty harness
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HAHAHA

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which heatmap though... I keep thinking you mean one of the coverage planners but not sure that's right?

karmic junco
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Yes, that is exactly what I was referring to

jaunty harness
karmic junco
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Just cant get a signal in my hole here. The only thing that bothers me is that my bobcat miner technically runs on the same frequency and consistantly hits into the bx

jaunty harness
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there's also one that I always forget the name of, it's like whattowhere.com ? something obtuse my brain refuses to store permanently

karmic junco
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according to this map... I can get about... 1000 ft before I fall into -100 db territory

jaunty harness
#

you should be to go further then cause LoRa should still be usable past that

karmic junco
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yes, but im at sea level

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running antennas are a painful experience!

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appears to be only one solution... and that is to mount a mobile solar node in my friends house.

jaunty harness
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rokland's got an updated lowmesh for I think it was $10off they emailed me about earlier, zilla seems pleased with the one he has on a bird feeder

abstract iron
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yes it'd great! right now I just Velcro it to the window when it wouldn't affect the construction guys

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reminder it claims no waterproof standard but I just silicone taped it and ignored that and it works fine

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oh btw since I have to keep taking it in and out of the outside window I was able to A/B RSSI between my t1e and the solar when it's either inside or outside. the window drops RSSI -27 dB or so

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not sure if that's what other people see with their windows but this seems to be why everything inside can't TX out even the donk

fervent nebula
jaunty harness
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Yeah that’s the one! (immediately goes in one ear/out the other)

fervent nebula
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I actually have it just chilling on my bookmark toolbar, I've used it so frequently and I keep forgetting it as well.

amber edge
#

palisades node anyone?

Screenshot_2025-05-13_at_11.52.50_PM.png
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sooo anyone got brooklyn tower hookups

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jaunty harness
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there was some discussion months ago about trying to get a node on Armstrong Tower

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and we got gardener, who has access to amazing rooftops in NYC

midnight mural
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I live in that hole!

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glass marsh
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So I added the cheap saw filter to the cheap amp. RX went up 2-3db TX went down 2-3db. RSSI basically the same.

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So who knows.... But for $50 you can bump up the power to about 2w

fervent nebula
midnight mural
#

What is up with that hole in midtown?

fervent nebula
#

your guess is as good as mine.

jaunty harness
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i'd guess accounting for GIANT BUILDINGS but then... why isn't there also a hole in financial district

amber edge
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The hill of Murray Hill ?

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Probably not

fervent nebula
#

yeah, looks like it's Murray Hill and other hills shadowing on the calculations, which feels wildly inaccurate for the height of the tower. they get slightly more visible when you turn on the 'contours' on the map.

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midnight mural
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432 Park Ave needs all kinds of nodes

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You can see this mofo in so many places

rare sparrow
glossy pine
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Funnily enough I know someone who lives on the 80th floor…

rare sparrow
glossy pine
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Not my window im def not there lol. I don’t see them often but if it comes up

rare sparrow
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No I use quotes 😂

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It’s not very apparent on Discord

midnight mural
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Do we have a community node fund we need to donate to?

frail grotto
#

How's about a node on the roof of one of the buildings in downtown Brooklyn

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Possibly one of the medium size buildings in the metro tech area

rare sparrow
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28th floor is high enough

glass marsh
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Yep, pretty high up there

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And has pretty good reach

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That's 10 miles

jaunty harness
#

so... 1/25th of the old LS record 😄

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10m in NYC though seems like 100m at times - just amazing it made it at all

glass marsh
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yeah.... and its pretty consistent too, 4 out of 5 traces are direct

amber edge
midnight mural
#

Happy to report the t1e is doing great here in Spain. The LF on the EU frequency seems to work fine. Def less nodes than home, but I am chatting with enthusiasts nonetheless.

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I am pretty sure someone is bridging the 433 and 868 on their deck 😎

jaunty harness
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EU has a lot more restrictions than we do, idk if a single device has enough airtime to do that (or maybe that's just other parts of EU? def not up on the specifics)

jaunty harness
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people running direct range tests up/down union, went out for a walk but didn't see anyone obviously meshin'

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told em they should join us on discord and linked nyme.sh, I did what I could

abstract iron
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wait how did you notice it?

abstract iron
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note it mentions a midtown Manhattan node ^

jaunty harness
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And someone linked that article few weeks ago, still haven’t seen the node show up 🤷

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OH! I bet they linked when you were in PA, that’s why you missed it and brief discussion of looking out for the node

karmic junco
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trying to figure out why this particular s3 isn't changing names- nor working on a private channel

karmic junco
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gah, its gotta be some bug.. You change the name, but it doesnt show on android. It requires you to remove the BT device from your phone, and re-pair it.

midnight mural
abstract iron
abstract iron
abstract iron
glass marsh
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To update the name on your phone you have to forget the device and pair again

karmic junco
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ahh. Well, that certainly worked

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So now just back to my regularly scheduled "still cant see anyone" programmign

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(from home! )

midnight mural
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Hey. I live in that hole in midtown, I’ll be right there with you soon enough 😝

karmic junco
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Midtown... I might be able to fix that.

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See currently, my chutil is 0.0 and aitutiltx is .2

midnight mural
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the Technodrome is up and running currently, but it seems like it’s not seen unless something is in the window

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Pizza Delivery Dude should be relaying it out and about 🤞

karmic junco
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doesnt that take up 1 hop?

midnight mural
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Yes. Technodrome will be my hotel base station….its just sitting on my desk while I test/play. @jaunty harness is helping me get hardware for home, permanently. I’ll put that by the window for better connectivity later this summer.

karmic junco
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Hotel while you travel, or you live in a hotel permanently, like Patterson bear

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paddington bear I should say

midnight mural
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Pizza Delivery Dude will transfer to car duty, and Casey Jones is my personal carry.

TMNT theme is working well for me 🙃

karmic junco
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Lol.. surprised the bendy antenna version isnt called hockey stick

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anyone ever measure signal loss in a car?

abstract iron
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haven't tried would you a/b a known source while parked or something?

karmic junco
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I dont have any sophisticated equipment..

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the only thing I could try is like two t1000's one inside and one outside

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and see if the SNR is any different

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Logic would dictate it cant be better inside a car

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but how much loss is also of question

jaunty harness
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depends on the vehicle (e.g. a beater that's more bondo than sheet metal, but then also the use of composites instead of traditional sheet steel), and location in the vehicle (e.g. node inside your trunk ain't getting out as good as a node in trunk with external antenna)

abstract iron
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how I did my window check was to put the solar node inside or outside and compare RSSI from static location of a t1e

honest pivot
#

do people use public (Long Fast) on these nodes at all? i stumbled on one while setting up meshtastic recently (name was nyme.sh which i think basically points to here) so i was curious

jaunty harness
#

hello! yeah we're still on default LongFast but have discussed switching to a faster preset such a MediumFast or ShortFast and done some small-scale testing in N Brooklyn which seemed to go quite well. in the interim some of us have switched rebroadcast mode to CORE PORT #s ONLY to reduce our airtime usage and try and squeeze a little more out of LF

fervent nebula
#

Anyone on MediumFast or ShortFast interested in contributing a mqtt view? the meshview already has listeners set up for MF but my MF node isn't actually online yet, I can add one for SF as well.

jaunty harness
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my window MF node still hasn't made contact with another, but also nRF so no networking

fervent nebula
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one of my background projects is a serial->mqtt adapter for my nRF modules. tbh I think it's going to be easier to just replace them with meshsticks, but eh I'm a sucker for a project.

amber edge
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what would be the tipping point for us coordinating a switch to medium fast? not saying it should happen now, just curious if people have an idea for when that would be

glossy pine
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Everyone here would need to schedule a switch over date and time, and enough people would have to do it that we achieved near-equivalent connectivity on day one or people will go back to what works, however imperfect or theoretically flawed

midnight mural
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I still feel I have nothing to lose, so I’d switchover when ever

frail grotto
#

As long as there's enough of a warning we can all swap to whatever preset

jaunty harness
#

yeah though I think it's important to be able to coordinate a time window (even if it's a day or two wide) with Gardener to flip over the nodes he's put up as they've been a *big help to improve connectivity

honest pivot
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I might be too many hops away to reach relevant areas. But good to know people occasionally use that channel

jaunty harness
#

yeah the other thing I at least really am pushing for with the switch is not just abandoning LF but leaving something to inform people we've switching to a diff preset - it would totally suck to just blanket cut off any new people from being able to benefit from the faster preset (and also ditch the old firmware ROUTER_CLIENTs on LF)

glossy pine
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Everyone is focused on the downsides of the people not paying attention w/ old firmware etc but there’s also on the other hand a lot of folks naively doing a lot of rebroadcasting for us all bc we’re on the default setting

jaunty harness
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for me at least, the downside is the ROUTER_CLIENTs and hidden REPEATERs is they're not actually amazing placed and running an infra-role means they end up pre-empting any client(s) from re-transmitting

abstract iron
jaunty harness
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hehe i have an extra node or (mentally starts counting, stops) so

abstract iron
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send out a msg w it? moved my outside solar and inside WinMesh. solar not that effective in parallel to window orientation

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moved them to MF I mean.

inner laurel
#

would us in NJ benefit from the switch?

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I have a second node in the mail on the way and just ordered a Solar Relay setup so I can hopefully build it and put it up on my roof about 50 feet up. I am studying for the HAM exam so hope to install the mast, antenna (UHF/VHF) and Relay at the same time.

jaunty harness
#

benefit would be you can talk to the rest that have moved to a different preset 😄

cyan drum
#

I'm in Fort Hamilton, I switched my solar node to MF (possibly temporary, possibly not) if anyone wants to test

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so i have one node on MF and one on LF now. basically at the edge of the city on the south side.

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ill check the node list in a couple hours and see if there is anything

amber edge
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do we have a list of the most visible nodes with the bad settings?

rare sparrow
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It’s basically hidden

amber edge
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Ohh. How do you know if you go through a repeater? Or do you not and that's the point

rare sparrow
rare sparrow
abstract iron
#

my thinking is anyone leaving for July 4 is informed and anyone staying has something new to mess with

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(similar to after labor day but kind of opposite)

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idk just throwing an idea

abstract iron
#

trying out TC2 BBS. I'll switch to whatever mode gives us room to run these

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takes me back 😂

jaunty harness
cyan drum
karmic junco
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go for July 1

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but I don't know actually how much speed difference there is.

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or reach

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I really need the reach

jaunty harness
#

basically 1/2 the time to tx/rx for 10-15% loss in range... and we don't have a range problem as much as airtime utilization and what are while not intentionally-malicious devices, they are being detrimental

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oh i missed that date part... basically whatever his sched allows, though if we were like "on $month $day, we're flipping" he'd have the heads up and ideally be able to flip em over after a busy day of work and some personal time before getting to this silly hobby of ours 8)

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some other considerations: having some well placed clients left behind on LF to point new folks to nyme.sh / MF, doesn't have to be a crazy # but like HAQER's got some crazy coverage from his place and would be a good option if he's down. maybe a second one at SST too? I haven't been far from the apt for a week or so so not sure how much direct connections but that seems like it could be a good spot. I'd be happy to leave one in the another window like how I have one sitting alone on MF currently and donate nodes/hw I have if people need

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don't even necessarily need to have them sending regular messages, just the node name could have the info

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also some sort of general agreement - if we see an infra role node (within city limits*) post switch, we all ignore it to if the owner isn't responsive/around to avoid another Harlem Relay

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pretty sure near 100% ignoring of clients would work, but just seems like something that's a when not and "if* it'll happen (because people do it with the best of intentions, and idealy if they're advanced enough to get preset change, they're also not running infra or would understand how they misunderstand once explained)

abstract iron
#

id chip in $ for a LF beacon at a good location to warn ppl

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but I don't have the loc

fervent nebula
whole basalt
#

Anyone tried MeshDash -it's being developed by someone in the UK. I saw a thread about it on the Reddit mesh forum. It is like meshsense, but many more features and very neat looking GUI. I'm hesitant to try it because it requires Python at the moment and there is no windows executable yet.

jaunty harness
whole basalt
jaunty harness
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will do! does look like there's .bat for windows to install all the mess dependencies but i'd probably go for the WSL version personally (if I had to run on windows, but also have used WSL before)

fervent nebula
#

took a look, seems like all roads lead to Docker for these guys. I'm spinning up a copy right now in my NJ site.

jaunty harness
#

tbf: containerization does make for a portable/repeatable/100% known env (full disclosure: I ❤️ containers)

#

things I don't ❤️ - curl script | bash - SORRY I DON'T KNOW YOU NOR DO I BLINDLY TRUST YOU

fervent nebula
# 
# Download the specific install.sh script for the selected version
# Make it executable
RUN curl -fSL "https://meshdash.co.uk//versions/${MESHDASH_VERSION}/install.sh" -o install.sh && \
    chmod +x install.sh

So the Dockerfile they distribute explicitly does the thing you don't like 😛

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also it doesn't seem to set a default user/password so you can't login???

jaunty harness
#

oh it's not curling a script that's the prob, it's curl piped to bash directly with no intermediate step - i want to look at the script and see what's up

#

it's a pattern in opensource that's gotten more and more popular and while it's not done maliciously it's way too easy for there to be some sort of "ooops"

fervent nebula
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I agree.

jaunty harness
# 
[INFO] Attempting to remove this installer script: '/home/pi/src/meshdash/install.sh' (name: 'install.sh')...
[INFO] Installer script removed.```
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self-destructs too 🙃

#

alright, need to actually get some work done but ready to starting playing around later

abstract iron
frail grotto
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P0ny is a rak module I'd love to run meshdash but it doesn't have wifi

abstract iron
#

oh oops no wifi

jaunty harness
#

seems to just be looking at the UDP traffic and using that to populate the dashboard, it doesn't seem to do any direct interaction with the node (e.g. its not like "387 nodes", the actual DB, it's just saying "5" total)

fervent nebula
#

My initial review on MeshDash is that it looks nice, but isn't ready.
After 30 minutes it is still not showing short/long names for any nodes (even the one directly connected). It's got no documentation and the source is a bit of a mess. I can't be sure but it does appear to have some API calls to their central map server which doesn't appear to be public and there's no configuration to disable it. (I had to grab the source from the zip in the installer, there's no github or anything as far as I can tell)

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Correction : found the settings to disable it and view the "community" map from inside the webapp.

jaunty harness
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ahh nice!! it's weird it's not picking up long names though, they're definitely in the UDP traffic mudp sees

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i.e.:

from: 3903596030
to: 1135980584
channel: 8
decoded {
  portnum: NODEINFO_APP
  payload: "id: "!e8ac25fe" long_name: "Astoria Meshtastic 002" short_name: "AMR2" macaddr: "\351\340\350\254%\376" hw_model: RAK4631"
  want_response: true
}
id: 1882281028
rx_time: 1747016621
rx_snr: -12
hop_limit: 3
priority: RELIABLE
rx_rssi: -99
relay_node: 239```
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heh AMR2 is def reliable, even the fw agrees! 😄

abstract iron
#

meshtasticd can connect to fully formed nodes over USB? i.e. not SPI or I2P to a chip/hat/whatever

jaunty harness
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it can connect to USB->SPI device (the CH341A chip used on the Meshstick)

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but not the "serial" USB connection that you see via meshtastic --noproto

abstract iron
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oh no I meant a full winmesh etc. I want to try out the UDP bridging

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Ok yea

#

I don't have any esp32 devices so no wifi-->udp->>etc

jaunty harness
#

ahh yeah, you'd need a meshstick or a hat for that - meshtasticd is basically the firmware running as a linux daemon (actually that's literally what it is)

#

you can get away without any radio connected, it'll use a "simulated radio" at that point but then you'd still need something else on the network talking UDP for it to be able to do meshy stuffs

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and I have a spare esp32 node or... 4? could def hook you up if you wanna start playing with that

abstract iron
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got it. v interesting. I was going to try to bridge either LF/MF or LF433/LF etc. for sport

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and also investigate meshdash

jaunty harness
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if you match the channel hash (name) and PSK they should magically work over UDP. probably. 😉

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there's apparently some unexpected behavior going on with UDP as RF bridge currently, essentially it hears packet over UDP and doesn't repeat if it also hears over RF - using router_late seems to be workaround until it's fixed in code but i may be doing a poor job remembering/explaining

abstract iron
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is the UDP just blasting the binary protos or did they re-serialize?

inner helm
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Does anyone know what’s happening in the Hudson valley?

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I’m suddenly connecting to a bunch of nodes. Is someone on a mountain or with a. Drone?

glossy pine
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Prob someone up at that fireman tower thing again in bear mountain

inner helm
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Seems like a T deck on bear mountain. It’s connecting to more nodes now

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Should be connecting the city to the highland falls repeater near West Point

jaunty harness
abstract iron
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nice thank you for that deep link

karmic junco
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Anyone see my msg

abstract iron
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Which one? Just got a TR to Steiner! Are Window and Metaphor here yet?

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pork I've had the donk on MF. no luck so far.

whole basalt
fervent nebula
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I keep checking the meshview to see stuff and the amount of nodes that aren't visible because they are OkToMQTT=false makes me sad.

honest pivot
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do people use portable meshtastic devices around the nyc area, or are people mostly leaving stationary nodes in place near homes/businesses/wherever else is convenient?

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wondering what devices are most useful

abstract iron
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Carry around T1000E on client_mute, if I'm in another location that isn't public, may bring additional, bigger client nodes

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e.g. "put client node closer to window, then use client_mute node"

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oh and a window node at my house

fervent nebula
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I carry my tdeck or a t1000e (on client mute) with me, drive with a t3s3 in the car for observability and relay, and host a stationary node for infra.

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I think I might own too many nodes, but I'm not sure. Maybe I'll buy another 20 or 30 to be sure.

honest pivot
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i'm not familiar with the various client modes yet, i'll have to look into client_mute

jaunty harness
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CLIENT_MUTE is best when you have a fixed/stationary primary node, otherwise the primary will get ACKs from the other close node vs another node somewhere else that would help retransmit tot he mesh

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This blog post does a good job of explaining the diffs and where CLIENT_MUTE is appropriate vs CLIENT

honest pivot
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ack, good to know. so if i have a stationary node with a better antenna that will probably stay plugged in, and one that i might carry on me, client_mute on the one that i carry unless i'm going far enough out of range to the point where it would be valuable to retransmit?

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will read, thanks for the info

jaunty harness
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no prob, and yeah that's the basic idea

honest pivot
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great post. i don't think my stationary node is in a quality enough location to set as a router so i'll need to play around with how i handle having a portable vs fixed node. thanks again

jaunty harness
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hrmm looks like imrbatteries.com is running a sale on some 18650s if anyone was looking to score some legit ones for $4/pop

karmic junco
jaunty harness
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dracoling is SST running rebroadcast mode ALL or CORE_PORTS_ONLY? Seems to be pretty consistently ~24% channel util 😬

fervent nebula
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ALL still.

jaunty harness
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ahh k

fervent nebula
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just updated to CORE_PORTS_ONLY

jaunty harness
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sweet! i'll keep an eye on the channel util, been thinking about messaging people who are running super hot (23-25%) and suggesting the rebroadcast change to help alleviate things

glossy pine
fervent nebula
abstract iron
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I'm on discord over ax.25

glossy pine
fervent nebula
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I wasn't being sarcastic, or nasty. It's an honest question.

abstract iron
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I mean not for nothing if that was the logic we wouldn't be building out a radio system cause we have the internet

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so fold the nodes and back to phpbb

karmic junco
jaunty harness
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the reality is without Discord we wouldn't be able to coordinate and improve the RF side of things anywhere near as effectively. the devs have made it so you can MQTT if you want to, and you can totally ignore it if you don't want to. there's pros/cons for both but as long as those running MQTT respect the NotOkToMqtt flag both sides can coexist amicably.

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pre 2.6.x/UDP it was definitely "the way" to bridge presets and get mesh metrics into something for visualization (smaller projects like w2asm dope jupyter notebook aside), but for me RF is the primary use, MQTT is just one of many aspects for exploration for those with an interest - some of us have that interest, others don't, and both are valid.

karmic junco
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Anyone e7d5?

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This makes no sense.. someone explain.

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I see one node in my node list.

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It's the correct public channel key. But if I send out to longfast I don't get any delivery

jaunty harness
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probably you can hear it, but it can't hear you

karmic junco
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Well that's. Unhappy

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I did get an AKC back from someone.

jaunty harness
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that's a start!

abstract iron
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PX where you located?

jaunty harness
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huh, it makes sense but I didn't think of it - Adafruit has some ufl/ipex -> sma connectors, USPS Priority in the city is usually 2 days max, that beats Rokland shipping and the quality-lottery of Amazon

midnight mural
abstract iron
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woah anyone else see 944c up in CT?

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41.75362, -73.07086

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karmic junco
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I did see 4f11 in the middle of the night

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4 hops away- @jaunty harness you hit him about a month ago

karmic junco
jaunty harness
jaunty harness
karmic junco
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But shouldn't I see the other nodes that allowed the hops?

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Technically they are closerr

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Sent a test out from creedmore queens

midnight mural
karmic junco
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Pony Express is close to somewhere.

midnight mural
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The pihole v6 upgrade did not go well

jaunty harness
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yes, and no! basically a node relaying a packet is only gonna be observable by its from=!userid/to=!userid in the intermediary nodes' logs. if there's a repeater or old enough firmware in there, it's not even !userid but !ffffffff. but that is also their involvement with relaying that packet, you still need NODEINFO/TELEMETRY/POSITION packet exchange to show up in each other's nodeDB (as I understand)

jaunty harness
karmic junco
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Sounds like ghost in a shell frankly. Lol

jaunty harness
karmic junco
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We need an antenna here

midnight mural
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Oh man, the Tachcoma’s are so my fav

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Bato is also a fucking beast

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(Sorry for any misspellings 🙃)

abstract iron
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I'm going to be out with donk on MF and t1e around Williamsburg. pork ill see if your MF node appears

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t1e LF

jaunty harness
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Yeah would love to have node up high in LIC to better bridge queens and N Brooklyn (more paths the better!)

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ooo AMR2 is sending location now - I hadn't noticed that, Zumble did you just add location or actually swap that one out?

jaunty harness
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@proven grove 1 cut + 2 jumpers confirmed working, babel #2 is now 3/3 functioning radios - time for some chairspins and other things I shoulda been doing and later get the SIM in there for further "HOLY SHIT THIS DAMN THING IS WORKING LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED, FINALLY" experiences

jaunty harness
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i was mistaken... in the end it's 1 cut trace + 3 jumpers, pin34 is one of the many cursed parts of the design but hey 3 radios!

open needle
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Hey guys, Prospect Park South here. Planning to put a relay point here. As it for right now - ruining "Beverly Mesh (BM)" on regular client.
Just want to say hello 🙂

midnight mural
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Welcome to the pizza party 😎

rare sparrow
karmic junco
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hello!

open needle
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Btw - am I the only one here having unlimited housing / battery / charger supply from used vapes ? 😆

jaunty harness
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haha def not the only one, i've seen someone stick whole node inside an old vape

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[this one](#1255474073484529725 message)

open needle
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Also, check SSD enclosures on amazon...you can find for around $7 and they fit almost perfect

open needle
jaunty harness
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I usually print myne, because have printers (what’s lying around the desk right now)

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open needle
jaunty harness
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ty! but the real work was done by the case designers of course, though the black mounting plate was one I made (and pretty much the extent of my CAD abilities)

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Xam was doing some super lowbuck/recycled case enclosures, not sure what their latest looks like

open needle
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Also, you can make 3D printed parts look like something came from the big shelf if you lightly coat outside surfaced with super glue (after de greasing of course) , than send it and now you can paint with any plastic can enamel,,,like satin or flat. it will hold and look 10/10. This exact method used by custom auto shops on interior panel customization.

glossy pine
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I like recycling vapes into nodes concept

inner laurel
jaunty harness
jaunty harness
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hrmmm, think titi is another one that might be good on switching to rebroadcast core ports only, pretty great connectivity but the util is usually 23-24% lately

midnight mural
karmic junco
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Morning

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I'll be scampering through the city todya

abstract iron
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got a mesh txt on LF from someone on the empire state b, check it out

jaunty harness
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heh don't see it, just your ack

abstract iron
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damn really. solar node coming through!!!

steel rune
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Could someone give me a hand with setting up to appear on the nycme.sh map?

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These are my settings

fervent nebula
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turn off Downlink Enabled, and it should work as posted.

steel rune
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Okay thanks!

thin rivet
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Guys I have such little signal I have to use my phones Internet connection lol

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Like that’s how few people actually are out here

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(Suffolk)

karmic junco
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Is.

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I did get 1 node out into heapstead the other week

steel rune
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Hempstead?

maiden thistle
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I always pick up that one node at Texas Roadhouse on Hempstead Turnpike

karmic junco
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I thought they used to have a special, but guess its not threre on a friday

steel rune
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Hi it’s me again trying to get on the map, checked all my settings, gave it a bit and still nothing. Anyone not minding lending some help?

steel rune
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Fixed it, turned off MQTT encryption

glass marsh
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It's just high up there...

jaunty harness
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seems better looking at it today, but yeah just trying to keep an eye on the consistently high util (23-24%) nodes and trying the rebroadcast change where possible

open needle
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Just finished testing my roof for ROUTER node placement with standard 2dba antenna and have pretty good results. Have a clear sight on South 0 Coney IS / Marine Park, All west-southwest like Bayridge, Bensonhurst etc. The only obstacle to have a perfect position is Battle Hill -Greenwood cemetery, covering Brooklyn Heights direction.
You'll should see it live by next week.

jaunty harness
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please do not use ROUTER but CLIENT which will do exactly what you want, but without preempting any of the other CLIENTs therebye maximizing the mesh's potential pathings

fervent nebula
steel rune
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Pretty sure I got it, maybe I was just looking in the wrong spot

I’m the only one on the map south shore Long Island

fervent nebula
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Welcome to the map! 😄

abstract iron
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woo wo

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30mhz-5.8GHz amp or whatever 🤣

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Ever since I bought some 915 MHz antennas on AliX it hits me with a lot of listings

daring moth
abstract iron
steel rune
fervent nebula
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dash, meshinfo and meshview all show separate views of basically the same source info.

abstract iron
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nice thx

proven grove
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@jaunty harness have you told Fire yet about the fix? and mind DMing me the specific changes to get it to work? I've run out of things to build at the moment.

jaunty harness
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got ethernet working, but SIM card not so much and need to triple check my soldering/connections then try and bodge 22Ω resistors on the clk/rst/data lines 🙄

steel rune
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What is the need for the SIM card? For MQTT?

jaunty harness
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it's an overly ambitious but currently flawed node of someone else's design i've been sorting out... it has 900/2.4GHz LoRa radio and an LTE Modem with a very low power pokey linux SBC. the LTE Modem does in fact have a builtin MQTT client interestingly enough.

abstract iron
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redundant management or something? I considered how this could be interesting for me to "forget" a node at work but still be able to remote it even if I can't mesh to ot

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cause I can't put it on corp wifi or kaboom laser will come out of the ceiling and zap it

jaunty harness
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yeah it's in theory whatever you want to do with it... the UART is working so I can poke at it with AT commands but haven't been able to get it talking with a known good SIM, and after that figure out how the hell to program it for my carrier and actually send some data

abstract iron
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pretty interesting

jaunty harness
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oh, there's also a 20dBm PA/3db LNA for the 900MHz LoRa, and it's quite power hungry

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abstract iron
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wow you're right, MQTT built in