#N-Zap, Hero Shot, Splash-o-Matic In how do I have to differ the loadouts?

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dreamy oak
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I know that as a front line class, I should focus on SSU, LDE, Ninja Squid, QSJ and such, but what should I do differently between these three weapons? I'm still not entirely sure about how to build loadouts.

fleet dew
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Splash does not want any intensify due to the lack of shot rng, the other 2 weapons want 1 sub, 2 at most if u got spare slots

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N zap could benefit from special power up. Splash and n zap are light weapons that can benefit more from run speed

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That's all the differences I can think of

dreamy oak
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I'm currently using this for my Mini Splatling

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And this for my Splash-o-Matic

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These abilities is roughly what I have planned for the Splatling

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And this for Splash

fleet dew
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Ink recovery??????

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Also you need ninja squid on shooters

dreamy oak
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I shoved abilities around in such a way that I could reuse my Aviators for both Splatling and Splash

fleet dew
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Jet squelcher is the only thing long enough to not use it but even still I would

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Ninja squid is meta

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Just use it

dreamy oak
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Yeah I'll definitely get it on my Shooter loadout

fleet dew
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People not using ninja squid is the only reason why I can get kills as a backline

dreamy oak
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But what would I change other than that?

fleet dew
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Shoes? Maybe

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Object shredder outside of rain is much less useful

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Consider stealth jump

dreamy oak
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So just stealth jump + Ninja Squid on the shooter build?

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And I can keep the rest as-is?

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I'd ideally reuse as much as possible for now, there aren't that many decent cosmetics and ability chunks don't drop often enough to just throw them at stuff willy-nilly...

fleet dew
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Yeah pretty much

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Btw

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Put 1 sub intensify on the mini set

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And do that for EVERY weapon with jump rng

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No exceptions

wanton willow
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@dreamy oak depends on ur objectives, Splatoon 3 is really " needy " in high ranks, so if you want to go there, you need ur " BIS " ( Best In Slot ), but if you just want to touch for the first time the theorycrafting world and try it by yourself, ur good

fleet dew
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1 sub is really good

wanton willow
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i think any advices is good to receive tho

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for shoes, the meta is around ab_sj & ab_os even tho 95% of the time you'll use ab_sj since it's overpowered.

dreamy oak
wanton willow
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alway try to have 0.1 ( one token ) of each : ab_qsj , ab_inkres & ab_sru , those are mandatory for some quality of life

dreamy oak
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How's this?

wanton willow
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kinda bad

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why :

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On any pieces ANY of them, you never want 1 main & 3 sub of the same stat

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it's either 3 sub of them or 1 main

dreamy oak
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Why that?

wanton willow
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this is a scale% uping

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the more you have

dreamy oak
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Ohhh okay

wanton willow
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the less its effective

fleet dew
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The run speed is for mini splatling

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But also don't post mini sets here

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Stick to the topic

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Shooters

wanton willow
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in ur case :

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i think

dreamy oak
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How's this for shooters?

wanton willow
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this build is what you're looking ofr

fleet dew
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Use these as starting points

dreamy oak
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RUN speed for shooters?

wanton willow
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oh yea ab_ia is a thing

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yea Ultramouzer is right

fleet dew
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Did u not see the memo that n zap and splash are lightweights

wanton willow
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those base loadouts are good

fleet dew
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They benefit from run speed

dreamy oak
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🤔 I thought Run Speed was mainly used as a Splatling debuff counter-measure

wanton willow
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btw as a main Nzap this is my build :

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if it can helps

fleet dew
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I prefer special power up

dreamy oak
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So I want running speed on both my Splatling and Shooter?

fleet dew
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Special power > special charge on cooler

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You cannot charge the next cooler until your current cooler is done

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So special charge gets less value

dreamy oak
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And for the clothing main ability I will definitely go with Ninja Squid

fleet dew
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Special power however increases buff duration

wanton willow
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special power only increases duration

fleet dew
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Yeah, that's the point

wanton willow
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15 seconds is way enough to cycle back

fleet dew
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Duration is better

dreamy oak
wanton willow
fleet dew
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No IA

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Run speed on a mid weight is eh

dreamy oak
wanton willow
fleet dew
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Swim speed is much better here

wanton willow
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^

dreamy oak
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I should probably hop more should I

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Okay, so I shouldn't reuse the same loadout for Splash and Hero?

fleet dew
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Tbh I don't think you're listening to us. You keep posting build but they don't really make sense to me

dreamy oak
fleet dew
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We've said many times that different weapons should use different things

dreamy oak
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I'm sorry.

wanton willow
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it's fine

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😉

fleet dew
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Also you should be posting your ideal set, not your actual set

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Your actual set will be garbo cuz I don't have any resources either

dreamy oak
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It's just that ability chunks are hard to come by if you need them in such quantities, plus a lot of cosmetics suck aesthetically

wanton willow
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use this

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to make ur loadout

fleet dew
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But everybody is in the same boat and trying to get there as well

wanton willow
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it's way better

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you have stats

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& some nerd infos

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it might help you to understand which ability effect which stats

fleet dew
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Oh God is he using the Nintendo app to make builds?

dreamy oak
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She! And I'm using something I found online

wanton willow
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it's ok, no one knows it, i've been the first to use it 🙂

fleet dew
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Just know that ink recovery is a generally useless ability

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I don't know anything that would want it for whatever reason

dreamy oak
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Okay, different question

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How do I, y'know, learn all this?

fleet dew
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Read the wiki?

dreamy oak
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I am. But generally I don't know on what to focus.

wanton willow
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read the abilities, questionning the right people that are begginer friendly and so on 🙂

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this is the meta for nzap

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you can check for any weapon

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and from this

fleet dew
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Does the wiki tell you what run speed works on and doesnt

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Cuz it doesn't work on everything you'd think it does

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Generally use run speed on splatling and lightweight shooters

wanton willow
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it is important to know that everyone is different, i sometimes play with 2 ab_sru where only 1 is good

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so look for the meta

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and then play with what you need

fleet dew
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^ you can deviate from the meta, but only if you know what you're doing and why

dreamy oak
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I'm just unsure how to best use the abilities. Like do I use them to counteract debuffs or do I use them to become more evasive

wanton willow
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and if your gameplay is based on it, it's fine

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look

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splash o matic

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you can see that ab_ns is mandatory ( on everybuild )

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some play with strange shoes but

dreamy oak
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I'll definitely use it, no question

fleet dew
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First thing is that LDE is kinda busted. That skill saves so much ink.

Second thing is that ninja squid is mandatory.

Third is that stealth jump is extremely good. You can't go wrong with any of these

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Also about WHY ninja is good

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There is a lot of maps with long sightlines and no cover

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Ninja let's u reposition without being spotted by a sniper

wanton willow
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^

fleet dew
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Backlines generally won't need ninja cuz they are far enough away in the first place

wanton willow
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ninja was trash in sp2

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now in sp3 you're invisible 100%

dreamy oak
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How about this but with stealth jump?

fleet dew
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Looks ok

wanton willow
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looks fire

fleet dew
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But explain why bomb range

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Idk what it's purpose is, so if u can't explain it either I'd use run speed on splash

dreamy oak
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What would I need to alter for other weapons? Ideally I wanna reuse different cosmetics for different sets, obviously not the entire set if you know what I mean

fleet dew
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Other weapons will have jump RNG, so 1 sub IA

wanton willow
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0.2 ab_bpu here is for another bomb almost imediatly

fleet dew
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Btw you that hat is actually what I have rn

wanton willow
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which is weird tho

dreamy oak
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Like the headpiece I could definitely reuse for my Splatling

fleet dew
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I made that thing week 1 cuz I knew it would be reusable on 90% of shit

wanton willow
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this headpiece is a masterpiece

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0 joke

fleet dew
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Uh

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Bomb range doesn't make the 2nd bomb come out faster

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It just has more velocity which means better range

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But splash is also a short weapon that uses bombs to combo into the main

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Bomb range won't help with that

simple vale
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It also uses bursts to poke at a longer distance than its main wep

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Some builds ive seen run upwards of a main and you can still use it to combo with your main wep that hasnt been taken