Is it possible for onprem ONTAP systems? I know you can snapmirror an ONTAP s3 bucket object which provides redundancy with continuous snapmirror, but would you have to use something like Cloud Backup\BlueXP to actually provide point in time backups? I know you are not meant to rely on versioning for backups so I am interested to know how people are doing this?
#Backups of native ONTAP s3?
proud loom
mint compass
I've been down this road and the people I've talked to who seem to know this all say that it's not possible because that is not how S3 buckets are supposed to work.
So I explain to my customers that backups need to be done on the data before the data is put into the S3 buckets.
Basically, the bucket is just an end station of the data used for application requests.
proud loom
@mint compass thanks for your input. interesting comment you make about backups before the bucket. I guess it all depends on how your application is architected and how data flows through it. I am not sure this in most cases is how people would use an S3 bucket, but I have seen people try and use it as a live file system so to speak, which essential it is not.
mint compass
<@1019515080947281951> thanks for your input. interesting comment you make about...
There are so many misconceptions from users about S3, most think it is just another filesystem and can be browsed like SMB/NFS with file permissions and so on.
I believe they read it in some white paper for the application and goes "this seems good, lets do that" without much thought behind architecture.
Big pain point for us right now.
tender cradle
You can SnapMirror to Cloud.
I know it's mentioned but that's about how you would do it. Another option might be traditional SnapMirror to a SnapLock cluster.
proud loom
I know it's mentioned but that's about how you would do it. Another option might...
can this be done where ONTAP S3 is the source and also provide point in time copies, as far as I know snapmirror is literally for DR only.
safe elbow
The trouble is that S3 SnapMirror doesn't replicate Snapshots. It replicates objects directly from the source ONTAP S3 bucket to the destination. If the destination is ONTAP S3 you can perform failovers for DR -or- restores. However, S3 SnapMirror doesn't take Snapshots as part of the protection so you're really only restoring whatever the last backup was.
That being said, the underlying storage for an ONTAP S3 bucket is a flexgroup volume. Snapshots of these volumes *may * meet your needs for point-in-time backups of the ONTAP S3 bucket.