Material + More

[latent python]

I think elemental ammo needs 6 gunpowder

[woven sigil]

It'd be nice if extracting essence lowered it to the previous tier instead.

[latent python]

I WISH

[prime fern]

bro same

t3 -> 10 t2 or something

[latent python]

its all 25x

[prime fern]

they'd have to reqork the conversions then

[latent python]

so like in terms of T0, T1 is worth 25, T2 is worth 250, T3 is 2500

[prime fern]

that's 25 to start, and x10 after

[latent python]

er, yeah

[prime fern]

if it was true x25, a t3 would = 15625 t0

🤣

[latent python]

I'd be fine with T3 becoming 25 T2

and so on

[prime fern]

ye, that'd put 1 t3 at 625 t1

then we'd never worry about gunpowder again XD

[latent python]

mhm

either that or make a trader that sells coal lol

[prime fern]

or put coal in the glossary

[latent python]

Because I don't think any do, not at least that I've come across yet.

[woven sigil]

Can you list mats for this? Is it stone powder schist and fabled sun giant ingot?

[prime fern]

I used a combination of Schist in weak soul, and Granite in moderate soul for the enchantments. Sun giant and pellucidic mix in the axe head for the extra magick, steel for the alloy needed, and pellucidic rest

I had to use T2 pred hide for the grip since i don't have T3 yet

[woven sigil]

Thanks, saving this. Hoping that patches roll around and make einadia and such better though

[prime fern]

and because I didn't have enough gallumph to make the grip XD

ye, even without it being perfect I think 2k raw damage and 126 magick is more than enough to run through ascended to get the real endgame mats

[woven sigil]

I've never seen gallumph, what is that from? I haven't visited every asc realm yet

[prime fern]

it's a swamp predator, I don't remember which one

I need to re-organize the locations and features tab

[latent python]

Imagine actually buying a cut gem quartz for 100 T3

[prime fern]

I think it's the bigger hippo

[woven sigil]

Gotcha

I'm about to speed through all the asc realms and then I'll try to recreate your axe

[prime fern]

what if it was cut obsidian

[prime fern]

basically wherever I could mix pellucidic with sun giant I tried to

[low plaza]

u can make all 3 purple infusions btw

[prime fern]

I haven't even been to an ascended realm yet XD

[prime fern]

QUE?!

I thought it was one of each!

[low plaza]

yep its not intuitive

[prime fern]

alr then, I know what i'm doing after I get these taxes done

[latent python]

each upgrade tier just unlocks the slot, you can put any level of infusion in the slot

[low plaza]

btw idk how u get 270+ tools

all peludic, still 259

[prime fern]

enchantments and infusions factor into GS of the tool

[latent python]

You only have 1 infusion on it

and yeah, put 3 enchantments on it as well

[prime fern]

so my ornate pick is sitting at 235 rn, so I can mine t5 ores

[low plaza]

ok, i guess there is no Stamina cost infusion?

[prime fern]

I haven't looked

[latent python]

no, stamina effeciency is the thing that reduces stam cost on things

[prime fern]

Stamina Efficiency reduces stamina cost by 1/stamina efficiency

if my math is correct, 300 stamina eff would theoreticall make using the maul cost 4 stam instead of 6 (1/3 stamina cost)

500 would make it 1/5th, or 1.2 stam

[woven sigil]

Anyone else notice how stupidly powerful arborists shield is

[prime fern]

yep, got it on my axe

and I'm going to put healers charms on my armor when I get it

[latent python]

I wish the trader's had their stuff alphabetical in the menu lol

would make this so much easier

[prime fern]

someone found advanced bombadier

[latent python]

ooooh

[prime fern]

waiting for them to come here and put the SS down so I can take it off the maybe list 🤣

[low plaza]

but afaik we cant use stamina efficiency infusion on axepick bcoz it counts as different stat to Stamina cost stat of axepick

i guess magick infusion it is...

[latent python]

That is correct, stam eff is its own stat

[woven sigil]

I wish infusions told us which gear they applied to

I always forget

[latent python]

You can only infuse if the stat exists on the gear

[boreal bridge]

Sauce?? Did they see what enemy dropped it?

[prime fern]

test; discord died?

hoooly that lag

[boreal bridge]

Yeah it did for a second

[latent python]

Infusions are just an additional modifier on existing stats, so you can't infuse a stat that doesn't exist on a piece of armor / tool

25% of 0 is still 0 😂

[prime fern]

#nightingale-talk message something about 220 deset vault

[low plaza]

i guess best gloves material is rather Fabled t3 Belzeboar instead of Jana? since it gives 15% melee dmg?

[latent python]

If you're going for Melee gloves, yes

[low plaza]

i dont see any fiber/meat for ranged dmg

sadly

im axepick+revolver kinda guy

[boreal bridge]

Yes

[boreal bridge]

Hmm I ran that vault with blood moon apogean several times with no luck. Unlucky

Yeah I don’t think there are unfortunately

[low plaza]

and what is easier to farm? jana or fabled?

[latent python]

Fabled, 100%

I farmed like 72 of them in an hour or two I think

toss on Hunter card, go to Ex Prov Forest

look for the wolf head markers on the map

[low plaza]

ex means escended? normal difficulty?

for T3

[tribal fulcrum]

Such a pain. This thing is so fast

[latent python]

Oh, sorry, I mean Ex Asc Prov Forest (Extreme Ascended Provisioner Forest)

[low plaza]

oh

[prime fern]

can't be fast if it's dead, just use a rifle 🤣

ty davey

[low plaza]

why prov and not, say, antiq?

[latent python]

Major cards control what creatures spawn

[low plaza]

oh so Belzeboar is in prov?

[latent python]

on prov, every single marked fabled creature on the map was a beezleboar

[low plaza]

thanks

[prime fern]

oo that's good to know

[low plaza]

maybe u happen to know what major is for fabled locust?

[prime fern]

fabled locust... I would think astro?

[latent python]

Not off the top of my head, I was farming Beezleboar before so thats why I know that one lol

[tribal fulcrum]

Oh I did but sadly it's hp is to high to be oneshot

[prime fern]

don't know for sure yet

need more damages

[low plaza]

ok i'll go ahead and check

Extreme for max yield and guarantee T3?

[latent python]

mhm

20 more traders to go -_-

[prime fern]

over halfway there!

[woven sigil]

Has anyone tried max inventory capacity builds yet? Curious to know how far it can go

[latent python]

Best I've been able to do so far

787.8 total carry weight cause I also have charm of the mule on it

[candid bloom]

what the actua

sooo materials?

[latent python]

lol I don't remember sadly other than the one listed in the name.

[prime fern]

https://discord.com/channels/854679517997695016/1211552762467455066 someone linked this in main chat

duidic and hermetic base stats

[prime fern]

no T3 khepri? shame

https://tenor.com/view/dodogama-hue-laughing-gif-11979379

[latent python]

lol I made it before I really really got into understanding the crafting like I do now

[woven sigil]

Is explorers the best out there? I was convinced up until now that calcularian was better

[woven sigil]

huge difference, thanks

I'm just a special snowflake

[latent python]

For some reason, the Calcularian pack is a power level 1

which seems like a bug

[prime fern]

hermetics is the best I think. base weight of 157.5

[latent python]

yeah, but I think the only way to get it currently is to steal it off a follower

so you can't actually craft it

[prime fern]

seriously?

maaaaan

[latent python]

mhm, I haven't seen anyone be able to confirm that they have the recipe for it

but I have seen people saying they've seen followers with it and they've been able to steal it off them

[prime fern]

finally finished doing tax things, now I can go fix my axe lol

[woven sigil]

Is this in your list

I randomly got it from something

[prime fern]

wtf it's not even tiered

it might be the altar issue we found

[low plaza]

ok i can check creatures before opening the portal

do we know Fabled Locusts name?

[prime fern]

I don't have it down, I have khepri and scorpion

also easy 286

[latent python]

@prime fern Did they ever post the advanced bomb metal screenshot? I don't believe it till I see an actual screenshot 😂

[prime fern]

nope

[low plaza]

in any case both As Astro and As Antiq show same names

[prime fern]

🤣

[honest surge]

I went more of a magic ish route with harvester real card

[low plaza]

ok Astro has Scarab

[woven sigil]

Update, I think I got this as a quest reward from the watch

Does your axe oneshot 220 enemies or no

[brazen axle]

No way 😂

I can do 5-6k a shot and still need 15+ hits on Hammer Bros

[boreal bridge]

Inventory capacity only affects watering can

[prime fern]

found carved marble in asc anti forest

[boreal bridge]

Raw marble dreams 😢

[brazen axle]

Carved isn't rare ^-^;

[prime fern]

Would depend on the armor slot

how much health regen would you reckon to equal a moderate health potion per second?

250*60 yeah?

hmmmm... 15k health regen might be a bit much

[boreal bridge]

Worth

[woven sigil]

Whaaat... Now I'm sad. I was hoping to get like 100 inventory slots

[boreal bridge]

😦

[latent python]

stupid work making me do work instead of making this stupid spreadsheet 😂

[low plaza]

after killing the 1-2 that spawned in the realm, only reset? or just reopening/reentering respawns them?

[latent python]

When you kill them they should just respawn, keep looking on the map for the fabled icon

I never had to reset or anything, they just show up somewhere else

[low plaza]

just run around and wait without even exiting?

[latent python]

I never even had to wait, I just opened the map and the next one was already spawned and showing on the map

[low plaza]

i tried that after killing that 1 measly scarab and it did not spawn... maybe Hunter helps with that too

hm

[latent python]

Are you on extreme and ascended? I don't know if those also make a difference

[low plaza]

that was normal ascended

[latent python]

I was doing all mine farming on extreme

[low plaza]

ok, screw searching for fabled locusts, will go farm those boars after a break

damn this game is grindy

[latent python]

Its only as grindy as you make it

and if you're trying to minmax, its VERY grindy

[low plaza]

btw any chance someone knows what major spawns Fabled Harpy?

or at least what major spawns more normal harpies

[woven sigil]

Gloom swamp has galumph btw. Just saw it

[woven sigil]

Just do 160 vault runs and farm them while fighting Jana

if you want t3 fabled harpies

[low plaza]

Does she spawn fabled? I thought they are normal

And is 160 still t3?

[woven sigil]

They can be fabled

[woven sigil]

I could be wrong

[languid basalt]

afternoon everyone

[woven sigil]

I only see Grendel Druid in the searchable database, so I'm posting these here in case you don't have them.

[prime fern]

the thread matches the wood, I'll move that and add the 2 in a few

[latent python]

on the last ascended realm trader lol

just watch left after this

[woven sigil]

I think you have this already

[languid basalt]

on the druidic bundles the first one is the male version, the second one is the female version.
Male set: Druidic Boots, Druidic Jacket, Druidic Tophat, Druidic Breeches, Druidic Casual Shirt

Female set: Druidic Coat, Druidic Gloves, Druidic Bonnet, Druidic Skirt, Druidic Formal shirt

[woven sigil]

But I'm with my wife and we are doing t2 runs

This drops by itself, not crafted. Same stats as wood though

[prime fern]

oh yeah, someone posted earlier that titans fingernail is precious

[languid basalt]

we are at 1240 post we almost back up there 😛

Britomart's lock - location Desert , i don't see it on the list unless Brotmart's lock is a typo it is same stats

[brazen axle]

anyone able to get a screenshot of where this comes from?

[languid basalt]

like you want to see what it came off of?

[brazen axle]

ah cool, ty

i have seen that xD

[latent python]

Finally done

#1212894328557408307

[boreal bridge]

Welp i made a ornate watering can with t3 fabled pawn ingots

but it wont let me actually water things with it

[patent cloak]

ebest place to farm advanced yew wood?

best*

[prime fern]

whatever has the highest high-tier bound concentration

[languid basalt]

you can even play the maleficiate apogean card to bring out even more

[prime fern]

time to go make the rest of my portals and finish buying everything in t1-t2

[languid basalt]

so law was that fiber a typo?

[prime fern]

I don't believe so. One could be a fiber drop, the other could be upconverted meat because of drop tables

[languid basalt]

mine was mined

[prime fern]

britomarts?

[languid basalt]

yep

[prime fern]

yes it was lol

[languid basalt]

😛

[prime fern]

you think they have philly cheesesteaks in nightingale?

[languid basalt]

I'm so hungry now. Thanks.

[prime fern]

I just finished one 🤣

[woven sigil]

Same

[prime fern]

Why is this a 230 mining...

I got einadia out of this...

but I also got it out of the black crystal one

[woven sigil]

That one has 3 Ore spawns, black crystal has 5

Only difference I've seen so far

[prime fern]

I wonder if it makes more sense if the T5 POIs are different, but they always give the resource based on the realm

[languid basalt]

make sure to climb on top there ore up there

even on the floating rocks at top to

how do you fight the Carnutes? "nvm need to dispel it to fight it"

[woven sigil]

How many deposits on top? I've missed a few then

[languid basalt]

found 3-4 up there

[woven sigil]

So 6-7 for orange and 8-9 for black then?

[languid basalt]

i didnt see any black on this all orange

[chrome oasis]

it stands to reason that the red and bismuth spires are going to be some other resource later on since forest has very few t5 POI resources.

while swamp and desert each have 5

[low plaza]

rather interesting bug(?)

allows to use different stuff instead of pole

[woven sigil]

Does that say you can use a handle to make a handle

Lmao

[languid basalt]

use gilded lumber

[woven sigil]

Let's not get this thread locked

Law would be upset

[languid basalt]

? its not stacking

It's legit build materials.

[low plaza]

Still bug abuse, some ppl here are sensitive about this kind of topics

[languid basalt]

but its not a bug

[low plaza]

Not a bug?

It suggests me to use that instead of Pole

[upper prism]

Best card for crafting weapons?

[low plaza]

Too bad i didnt think about using gilded lumber myself tho

XD

[languid basalt]

ahh is see what you talking about

[woven sigil]

Melee, ranged?

[languid basalt]

lumber vs pole

nvm that is bug

I thought you talking about different materials that could be used to make a pole.

[upper prism]

Melee but its for magic

[low plaza]

Both :>

[upper prism]

I mean, idk if there is a card taht buffs magic, but its a melee weapon

[woven sigil]

Magic melee...hmm I don't know

[upper prism]

And for melee?

[woven sigil]

Regular melee I'd have to say bulwarks workshop is pretty good

There might be an apogean variant but I'm not that far

[upper prism]

Okay, thx

[woven sigil]

Combatants workshop is good too

[prime fern]

a handle for a handle gives no value 🤣

[graceful stratus]

Compiling Fae materials: https://discord.com/channels/854679517997695016/1212937760097304586

Please feel free to contribute!

[languid basalt]

so these are the same rocks

[prime fern]

40 T3 fabled beezleboar meat... imma hate this

[languid basalt]

try making 4 rope from Carnute meat.....

[prime fern]

IT'S THE SAME

lol

[languid basalt]

lol

[prime fern]

nvm it's double

[boreal bridge]

i found platinum

do we already have it?

[graceful stratus]

Can you please screenshot the node? Also the material stats 🙂

[boreal bridge]

i mined it all already but ill screenshot the stats, location was normal herbarium forest in a cave level 50

[graceful stratus]

Great! Thank you!

[boreal bridge]

actually found a rock

200 mining

[languid basalt]

map?

[graceful stratus]

epic

[boreal bridge]

location was normal herbarium forest in a cave level 50

[graceful stratus]

Nice one Spark, thanks 🙂

[boreal bridge]

my current location

im gonna keep playing until a craft 1x of every food, so ill still be trying to find stuff until then

wheat is a pain

[patent cloak]

Advanced yew would be best wood for melee dmg build right?

[boreal bridge]

think so

[graceful stratus]

For damage it seems yes. For GS it'll be a little lower

Than Ancient Eoten, I mean

So for utility, I'd go advanced yew. If you like big GS numbers, Ancient Eoten

[boreal bridge]

interesting, i thought it would be tier 5 like the other woods. does ancient eoten give more gs than tier 5 desert/swamp/wood?

[graceful stratus]

I'd have to log in to check - gimme a min

[patent cloak]

Ancient eoten same as fabled elder eoten?

[graceful stratus]

Oh, I might mean elder.....it's the one from the Vaults

[patent cloak]

Yeh, fabled elder

[graceful stratus]

Just jumping in game now, bear with me and I'll check

These are the three I have. Have not farmed any Forest Tier 5 yet. All should give the same GS, but different stats

Advanced Yew seems best unless the Forest Tier 5 beats it

[patent cloak]

Might just do elder eoten. Such a pain trying to get advanced yew

[languid basalt]

i like t4 over t5

[graceful stratus]

Yeah, a lot of farming the big bois with hammers. Not that common to find

[graceful stratus]

Some T4 is better than T5, feels like work needs to be done on the end-game mats lol

For sure I'd take the crit though

Man I hate green guns :/

[boreal bridge]

i love it

[tacit jacinth]

Where do you find the Male druidic bundle? I must be blind

[languid basalt]

The watch, when you talk to the npc it will be the first one listed called druidic bundle

if you go down to Gear thats the female version

they are both listed as druidic bundle

[tacit jacinth]

hmmm no clue how I missed that lol

I bought the bonnet and lets just say I look very eclectic

[languid basalt]

lol

[tacit jacinth]

obviously lol

[languid basalt]

lol

[tacit jacinth]

ohh Druidic Bundle not Druidic Bundle

clear as mud!

[graceful stratus]

haha, right?

[untold tree]

woah, how are yours 200 cheaper?

[graceful stratus]

1100 is normal. Are you thinking of the 1300 for tools/weapons?

[untold tree]

ah maybe

[twin egret]

something to note is that they do have different stats tho

Strangely enough

The difference is not absolutely insane or anything, but it exists.

Does anyone know the full differences between the Lee Metford Rifle and the Winchester?

[languid basalt]

is there any card for crafting armor?

[twin egret]

I guess this counts?

Improves durability, but that's all I can think of.

[boreal bridge]

lee metford is more sniper, winchester is more battle rifle

[languid basalt]

found this one but still looking

[woven sigil]

Lol accidentally made paper with tier 5 desert wood

[boreal bridge]

xd

best cards in the game incoming

[twin egret]

So I wanted to do some color comparisons to figure out some color palettes -- but I also wanted to see which set I wanted to build for the Druidic sets.

Aaaand... these noodle arms are scaring me.

The arms on the skirt-version of the Druidic set are so small, that if you take off the inner shirt, the character's arms are actually bigger than the sleeves

[low plaza]

Just 40? With Hunter eminent its 6 pieces per head, and they barely put up a fight
I counted about 190 pieces for complete gloves+hat...
The real pain was 220 fae tower, i once died due to accidental companion menu opening, and once to my backpack breaking and encumbering me xD

[woven sigil]

Anyone know what tier 5 forest fiber looks like?

Eh, I'll just go to forest herbarium ascended on extreme and see if I can find any

[chrome oasis]

looks like every other tiered forest fiber, just yellow

[woven sigil]

I meant like on the ground

Sorry for that

Is it gold?

[chrome oasis]

grass, but yellow. it'll be in the clusters of tier color trees

[woven sigil]

so I'm looking for wheat, got it

[chrome oasis]

not really. the clusters of trees and fiber are super obvious because in every realm its just a ball of blue and purple and yellow trees. once you see them, they stick out like a sore thumb

[woven sigil]

Found some already

Thanks

Forest Fiber 5, Jana, Advanced Hollow Metal for druidic boots. Minmax or no?

Greenhouse card or should I use something else?

[low plaza]

I came to the conclusion for myself that boots must be optimized for movespeed

So today im on a quest for harpies instead of jana

And i use greenhouse

[woven sigil]

Forest Fiber 5, Fabled Harpy 3, and Advanced Hollow Metal? Or do you plan on using a different type of fiber

[low plaza]

Only harpy and advanced hollow

[woven sigil]

How do you make the rope then?

[low plaza]

Just like jana, animal fiber

[woven sigil]

OHHH I'm so stupid

Thanks

Man I was looking for forest fiber because I thought I needed it.

[low plaza]

If u find where fabled harpy is, feel free to ping me

For now i compromised for normal ones xD

[woven sigil]

Jana Vault Runs. Make your own vault card and ramp up the difficulty, then farm the harpies that the boss spawns.

[low plaza]

Ahhh solo too much work xD

I was so stressed doing fae tower at 220

[woven sigil]

It's very stressful

[low plaza]

Do druidic jwckets change color or are they always green?

[woven sigil]

I think you can change it, but I haven't tested it. You can check though by using chitin in the crafting recipe.

If it can be modified, it will be super obvious by the yellow color

I'd use t1 chitin it's more vibrant

[low plaza]

Hmm ok ty

[twin egret]

Do people use Jana Meat for anything but Animal Fibre?

[languid basalt]

I don't stick unknown things in my mouth, I just wear them.

[twin egret]

amen

I just want to make sure I'm not wasting all my Jana Meat by turning it into Animal Fibre

[languid basalt]

i turned all mine into fiber

[twin egret]

alrighty, then off that goesss

[woven sigil]

Anyone notice a difference between adding the infusions before or after the epic upgrade?

[languid basalt]

cant say that i have i think they are a set GS add

[woven sigil]

Makes sense

[languid basalt]

they didnt turn out to bad

[twin egret]

I can't find a tier 3 automaton rook for the life of me

[languid basalt]

i farmed alott.... that is about 1/3 of what i have left

[twin egret]

Willing to trade? 😛

[languid basalt]

still using 😛

[twin egret]

ah rip

any suggestions on where to go for tier 3 rooks?

[languid basalt]

ya give me a sec to look at portals i may still have the world

[faint crescent]

220 vaults should have them around the sun giant at the end?

[languid basalt]

unless he gets killed in 5sec lol

[woven sigil]

Huh, movement speed affects dashing. It's quite obvious now

I think it also affects climbing

[languid basalt]

160 Desert Ascended Hunt where i got most of mine

right at the portal lol waiting for me

[twin egret]

Nice ty ❤️

[low plaza]

Are they green?

[languid basalt]

sec will put them on have not yet lol

green inners

[low plaza]

Aight ty

[twin egret]

Can you reclaim gears to get ingots?

[faint crescent]

There is indeed a reclaim ingot at the crafting bench.

Takes two of most refined products.

[twin egret]

Didn't know if the drops from mobs would be reclaimable.

ty ty

[faint crescent]

I don’t think the drops are considered different than player crafted

[low plaza]

Yep

[twin egret]

Do we know if there's an Artisan Eminent/Apogean card?

[twin egret]

Anyone got 9 Advanced Hollow Metal ingots they're willing to part with?

Additionally, does anyone know if there's a way to reclaim meat?

:X

[low plaza]

Meat prob not

[faint crescent]

Can’t talk about reclaiming.

[hushed knoll]

why?

[faint crescent]

It’s in the game but it’s not intended, so.

[hushed knoll]

ahh okay

hope they fix it then

until then, did you know, you can use gilded lumber in place of lumber? 😉

[faint crescent]

shrugs I hope they keep the fun of the systems. I suspect they won’t. Probably everyone will be unhappy with whatever they do about it.

Yes, gilded lumber is great. Need a lot of it for pagoda building too.

[hushed knoll]

man i like the reclaiming, its like folding metal, opens up a new path to craft stuff

and ther is a limit on the stacks

[faint crescent]

There’s no reason not to use gold instead of silver which is a little weird, it reminded me you can’t sell anything, nothing is really’worth’ anything.

[faint crescent]

You don’t seem to have got the hint.

[hushed knoll]

i did, but ppl already crying about it in a coop game in general

[faint crescent]

Well, have fun talking to yourself here

[hushed knoll]

😦

anyway

[faint crescent]

There are other threads where people don’t mind but this one is really fussy about it.

[hushed knoll]

i understand

maybe need to remove the "min/maxing" out of the channels description 😛

[faint crescent]

Idc

If/when min/maxing relies on base materials more this info will still be relevant. It doesn’t particular matter for the exploit.

[faint crescent]

Advanced yew and pellucid iirc. You could look at the spreadsheet that this channel is for, lol

[low plaza]

What they are used for?

[tribal tulip]

the bodies disappear on death, so not able to farm them

[prime fern]

reclaiming is fine, folding isn't 🤣

[faint crescent]

It’s literally reclaiming things that are mixed, two things that are intended, but the combination isn’t.

[prime fern]

I just woke up and missed the question about meat, thought that was in regards to reclaiming the automaton parts

if you're just reclaiming to get the original resource back to use it it's fine imo. repeating it in any process is an exploit

[faint crescent]

I’m not going to get tied up in knots about which thing they put in the game is supposed to be there or not. It’s all stuff they put in. I’ll see what they want to leave in or take out then see what I think of the new system.

[prime fern]

fair

Jana food seems to be pretty good

[faint crescent]

I just came across the recipe for ritual food

Meat + three gems seems much easier than salt mining

I assume humbaba is almost as good for food but isn’t using up bis crafting material

[low plaza]

Whats humbaba btw

[prime fern]

one of the apexes

[graceful stratus]

Anyone else seen any material with Hope % on it apart from this one?

[prime fern]

HEMP

[graceful stratus]

Thanks!

Caatyne??

[prime fern]

isn't that the tiny prey cat in the desert?

[graceful stratus]

Did find this in the desert yeah, at one of the NPC dwellings

[upper prism]

Fabled hide Carnute T3

[graceful stratus]

4 Abalonite trees in view from this hill....

[boreal bridge]

You can use it to cook if you want lol

[boreal bridge]

Oh you can, just have to be quick about it

[prime fern]

I cooked my jana meat, it's easy enough to get

[twin egret]

hand over the meat, Law

🫴

[wary compass]

Titan's is not precious, but Pellucidic is.

[prime fern]

Havent found any to test it yet, buy someone said they gilded with it

[latent python]

a very stam effecient fishing rod lol

[brazen axle]

Where'd you get this?

There's a guy paying a ton of T3 ess for each xD

[upper prism]

Rare drop from a normal carnute

[brazen axle]

Ahhhhh extreme difficulty and maybe the hunter card?

[upper prism]

I didnt try hunter card, let me make one, rn im farming carnute meat to make fibers fro the hermetic set

[brazen axle]

Hunter gives more animal drops I think

Maybe duelist?

I don't remember xD

One of them do

[latent python]

Hunter does

Duelist is you give and take more damage

[upper prism]

Maleficiate apogean for increased rare drops

[wary compass]

Maleficiate says it's for Bound only

...and doesn't appear to have any effect anyway.

[upper prism]

Descriptions swithces with blood moon

[latent python]

Hunter means you also can only hit weak spots, normal hits won't do damage

[brazen axle]

That's fine though

It's good training not to be a scrub

🤣

[upper prism]

Carnute have a weak point? Cause head its not one

[brazen axle]

Use the assassin's sight to see weak points

[wary compass]

Fire up assassin sight and see

[upper prism]

Im killing it with bees and quake XD

[brazen axle]

Mages are not hunters 😉

[wary compass]

Quake can definitely weakspot, bees don't though

[brazen axle]

Shockwave can weakspot, quake is a bit harder to get it, but when it does it can do it over n over

[twin egret]

Which ingot/ore/alloy would color a weapon purple?

I figured most people would be using Pursuit, which colors most weapons green/teal/aquamarine-ish.
But I'm seein g alot of purple weapons now.

Is Einaidia purple? 🤔

[honest surge]

Ayerium maybe?

[twin egret]

hmmmm

The next chart we need to put together is a color chart lmao.

[wary compass]

Like this purple? #1213121420876320778 message that's Einadia (with a bit of Pursuit accent)

[twin egret]

Wish I could just see the mapping in the files of the game to each source - would be so much easier than trial and error in-game.

Ah yeah, that might be it then.

[prime fern]

Youre fighting a heavily magical creature with magic? I guess youre taking fight fire with fire literally...

[upper prism]

Im mean, thats pasive dmg, im hiting it with an axe

[brazen axle]

Better than fighting a sun giant with hermetic flame

[upper prism]

But when im runing and healing quake and bees keep making dmg

[prime fern]

I see that so much in public raids lmao

[brazen axle]

I do 1 shot with poison ammo and switch to normal for the dot

[prime fern]

Lightning does so much damage

[brazen axle]

Lots of people are liking the bees, I may throw it on a dagger

Normal does plenty of these ez bosses 😂

[prime fern]

I have so much pursuit and ayrium, I might make a couple magick ranged

[brazen axle]

I'm still wearing the twitch drop armor 🤣 I'ma upgrade tonight and see how high I can get DMG to

[prime fern]

Im still wearing t2 and have 1200 health

[brazen axle]

Yuuuup

Extreme mode all game plus never upgrading armor... Offense is the best defense

[prime fern]

I'm not even using optimized food lol

like, I don't have wheat to make shepherd pie, and I don't even have the stew recipe

just tender steaks

[brazen axle]

You can make marinade and spice easily enough from mass farming meat and flowers

Jokes on you, two shots I'm dead anyways

[prime fern]

🤣

[brazen axle]

Trick is to not get hit

Or have 2000 blocking power

My hammer is my armor 😂

[prime fern]

my dumb bought the druidic gloves instead of the bundle

[wary compass]

marinade requires salt, you can't just farm chamomile for it like you can spice

[brazen axle]

I got loads of that from desert, but you can just buy it too if you want

[prime fern]

anyone need pursuit? I have so much of it i'm using it like tin

[upper prism]

With Maleficiate Apogean i got almost double of all the loot and 4 fabled bones from one T3 Carnute

[brazen axle]

We use pursuit as the general fill ingot because it's one of the easiest to get in bulk

[brazen axle]

Did you try hunter or no b/c weak point?

[upper prism]

Didnt try cause rn i dont have assassin sight in any weapon to check

[prime fern]

I think I broke my hunt portal 🤣 I keep getting network error trying to go to it

where do I get the hunter card?

foudn it, desert hunt

[twin egret]

Does Maleficiate apply its bonus to Carnute's drops too?

I thought Maleficiate was only to bound

[upper prism]

Blood moon and maleficiate switches descriptions on your inventory, if you go to a transmuter they show the right description

[twin egret]

oooo

[honest surge]

So for materials Forest Fiber T4 is probably my favorite to make the backpacks with cause of weight limit. Anyone else found better? Also, are there any other hides or w/e that have weight limit that you guys know?

[wary compass]

Nope, weight limit is literally just forest fibre

[upper prism]

Carnute has a weak point in the neck, but its very dificult to hit while is running and jumping XD

[prime fern]

at least that we know of right now

I haven't completed fishing yet

[prime fern]

FINALLY DONE

just need to kit it out now

[brazen axle]

You're not done until it's purple

[prime fern]

I'm getting the t3 now XD

[wary compass]

And triple infused and charmed

And another just like it on your companion

[prime fern]

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

[woven sigil]

I was able to do it a few times. That's weird. You also find a lot of harpies in the jana vault so just keep running it

[woven sigil]

The ritual food doesn't give the same bonuses when eaten

[woven sigil]

I know a bug that can help with that, but no legit way.

Purple ingots don't exist afaik

That einadia is definitely dark blue though

[low plaza]

yes einaidia makes purple guns

[brazen axle]

Would have been possible to sacrifice one of the other stats to add more strength? Not sacrificing melee damage*

[prime fern]

the strength bonus is so low I don't think it's worth it on the hands. the vast majority of my strength/melee is on my axe

[woven sigil]

There's no card that could make this even better? Greenhouse for durability?

[brazen axle]

Ofc, just want to eek out every bit I canxD

[prime fern]

I forgor to use card

lmao

[brazen axle]

Greenhouse gives like 3 bonuses including rain resist 😂

[woven sigil]

That's your second time isn't it? Darn law

[prime fern]

lol

[woven sigil]

It's weight durability and rain resist but only the durability will actually apply to gloves right?

[prime fern]

correct

I wonder if one of the workshop cards would have been good

[woven sigil]

So I think greenhouse is best for pack and maybe coat, but there is probably something better for the other gear

[brazen axle]

I think all the workshop cards only apply to tools, but I have a few permanent workshop realms up I will test when I do my armor this evening

[prime fern]

they do all say specifcally tools

reading through them now

[woven sigil]

Also, stealth rating is not a bad thing at all. I built a full stealth set earlier with just some t2 items and I can now farm deer and boars with ease

[prime fern]

artisan would have been okay

[brazen axle]

If you just need tier one, trickster card is way easier, if you need tier three legendary it's going to take a few hits anyway to go

[woven sigil]

Legend?

I was saying I used a tier 2 set to sneak up on t3 enemies for heartshots

[prime fern]

alr looks like it's totally fine. I don't see anything that affects them. Greenhouse would be okay if you use plant mats, but I used all meat for the gloves anyway

[woven sigil]

I built my boots with greenhouse card and didn't use plants, I still got the buffs

[brazen axle]

Voice to text is rough, lol

[woven sigil]

Was gonna say I see you talking everywhere

You logging 200 hours yet?

I just hit 100

[brazen axle]

At work, but probably close, lol even if I'm not actively playing I'm logged on when I'm at home

[prime fern]

I'm at 95.5, but I also spent 2-3 days on the spreadsheet 🤣

[brazen axle]

I had 60 hrs on day 4

Like, in the morning

[prime fern]

so 15 hours a day?

[brazen axle]

We really no lifed it

[woven sigil]

I don't afk for play time

I have avg 10-12 hrs a day on since it came out, since I'm an author and don't have to leave home for work

[brazen axle]

I don't AFK for playtime, I AFK while I do things around the house and pop in to do things between or to get screenshots to help people in discord

[woven sigil]

Ahh

[brazen axle]

My computer is right next to the kitchen and the living room, so it works out really well 🤣

[woven sigil]

That's awesome. My wife plays with me a lot or I'd probably be matched with you guys making 286 gear

Is that the highest gs you've seen btw?

[prime fern]

I don't know why my gloves aren't that high, I used all T3 mats 🤔

is Jana considered T4 mats?

[woven sigil]

Possibly

[brazen axle]

I think the game restricts GS but also you can get Janna leather from that low level dg in watch so

[woven sigil]

Try making the component items and see what the gear score for each component is. You should find out what's holding the gloves back.

[prime fern]

iirc the gloves base were gs 179

nvm they were 129

that is kinda low...

[woven sigil]

What's the gs of Jana animal fiber? Then Jana thread?

[prime fern]

gotta log back in

and get more meat..

[low plaza]

maan i just cant find any harpy

[boreal bridge]

i found it in alower level than that but from what i know from running a bunch of 220 deserts, once you get high enough level only high level ones spawn so it makes sense

[prime fern]

I was right

Jana is T4, beezleboar is T3

45 vs 31

so highest gear score doesn't mean best item

[brazen axle]

You can find them in the ascended realms, but they aren't fabled like the ones at the jana fight

[brazen axle]

100% but I do think gear score effects damage mitigation and other hidden attributes we just have no way to tell for sure without extensive testing

[prime fern]

I think it's negligible at this point in developement since the highest RP is 220. as long as you're above 250 it should be diminshing returns

ideally the difficulty curve should be a standard distribution

[honest surge]

correct, higher score doesnt always mean optimized gear to what you might need

[low plaza]

yep i ran through entire asc herbarium and none

[honest surge]

Take for example, if you are trying to make a backpack with most carry weight you would use T4 Forest fiber and not T5 because T4 forest fiber has 5% more weight bonus.

[low plaza]

i guess i just go straight to Hunt, get that Explorers pack, boots and hat in the meantime

[honest surge]

but T5 has more resist

[prime fern]

ooo that gives me an idea on how to calc the GS difference

[honest surge]

make 2 identical with just fiber change

and max the tier

[woven sigil]

I still have no idea how to kill carnutes lol

[proud pulsar]

cast dispell spell on them, then you can kill

https://tenor.com/view/mua-kiss-love-despicable-me-minions-gif-12981420

[prime fern]

I just made a pursuit dauntless sickle so I could get fiber 🤣

[woven sigil]

Thanks!

[prime fern]

so, something very interesting...

T4/T5 backpack are IDENTICAL

ope, I see my mistake now... lemme go make a T3 fiber backpack XD

Doesn't seem like GS has any difference in the shown stats

going to see if there's a difference in damage based on GS

[woven sigil]

I don't see this in your spreadsheet

[prime fern]

it won't be?

[woven sigil]

Facepalm. It's not a material my bad LOL

[prime fern]

🤣

[woven sigil]

It does have an interesting effect though

[prime fern]

you get that from the bishop trade iirc

[woven sigil]

Yes

Do we know of any way to recycle potions for their materials? I don't think there is one but I'm just checking

[prime fern]

none that i know of

no difference in gear/GS and damage taken. 116 backpack with nothing else, GS 9, and 178 backpack, GS 13, both took 25 damage to rp40 leporidon

if it was scaled, I would have expected something like 20 dmg vs 27 dmg

[honest surge]

Sorry I made a mistake, I T4 and T5 Forest Fiber have the same exact weight bonus. Sorry, sleepy and made a mistake when looking on a different material stat comparison.

[prime fern]

you're good

I think this still confirms GS means nothing, even with the underlying damage

[honest surge]

well, let me look at what it was that I looked at tht was different between tiers

I think it was some kind of wood that had one state at t4 and lowet at t5

but you are right, it tier mattered

it would be higher anyway

so really it is all about pure stat boosts

[prime fern]

and if there is some sort of backend scaling, it's so negligable it's not worth worrying about anyway 🤣

[honest surge]

Yup, proves that GS is not the driver of best gear

[prime fern]

which means we can safely ignore "max GS" sets and just go for max stats

[honest surge]

that is exactly what I did with winchester, I just pumped it full of Persuit and guilded everythig with it as well

lower GS but way higher RDMG

[prime fern]

I only have 1 druidic and the peacoat from the quest and I have 1461 health 🤣

[honest surge]

nice!

now that we confirmed it, it is easier to think about actual stats

[woven sigil]

Losrewn is spelled wrong in the spread

thought you didnt have it for a sec

[prime fern]

I have 1216 health without food lmao

[prime fern]

TEMP

pssst

backpacks can take durable cloth

[prime fern]

+30% weight, +50% health using durable cloth instead of regular cloth

[honest surge]

I am making Calcularing Pack, that one only takes fabric

unles there is a compound version of fabric that I do not know :/

[prime fern]

Is it only a fabric slot, or doea it say textile

[honest surge]

fabric :/

[prime fern]

Can you ss the crafting for me?

[honest surge]

and uses buttons, so I went for hollow metal to just put a bit more movement and stealth

[prime fern]

Calcularian iirc is t3 anyway

[prime fern]

I think t4 is only hermetic

[honest surge]

yeah, and no recipe yet

[prime fern]

I thought druid didnt have the recipe, hermetic is in the shop

[woven sigil]

Just found out stealth attacks do work. Maybe only with the knife?

[honest surge]

There is an NTTC Pack that could probably be done better

Hmmmmm

takes thread, cloth and ingots....so

it can be stacked even better

[woven sigil]

Not aware of one

[patent cloak]

does beezelboar have a diff name before killed?

i dont see him listed as a creature on forest realm

[prime fern]

Torq

I have him in the locations tab

[wary compass]

The legendary has a different name of course, Mohg's Somethingorother

[prime fern]

Oh, guur is right. Torq is the ox. Mohg is the beezleboar

[woven sigil]

Geez I still need 35,400 T3 essence for all the watch shops...

That's a lotta vault runs

I need more jana anyways so I guess it's fine

[sterile herald]

Reclaimed Ingot from Rook drops.

[brazen axle]

is that a NEED thtough? 😂

[woven sigil]

True, but I'm going to eventually

this just makes me sad

[brazen axle]

new toon is the only way, i have the same exact thing 😂

started a 2nd toon for it already

[prime fern]

can you not go talk to Danu?

[brazen axle]

nah

she brushes me off

[woven sigil]

Quests are broken when you go to the watch. She says no every time

I'll have to make a new character

Yeah wrong chat for that. Post elsewhere

[prime fern]

not the wrong chat

should re-read the OP 🤣

[woven sigil]

154k damage with a pursuit rifle on sun giant weak spot? Even with lightning rounds you can't do that much

Favor of power? Still no

[prime fern]

I do 10k with the smoothbore...

you're outta line lol

[prime fern]

and I'm specced for melee

[woven sigil]

Interesting. I assumed it was folded

[prime fern]

there's legit builds that do 1mil

[woven sigil]

Wild. I guess I'm still not late game yet. The most I've seen is 80k

[languid basalt]

you should make Hermetic's Gloves vs druidic

Hermetic's Glove

Weak Point Damage: 0.1

Melee Damage: 0.05

Ranged Damage: 0.05

Health Max: 45

Druidic Gloves

Weak Point Damage: 0.1

Strength: 1.5

Melee Damage: 0.15

Ranged Damage: 0.05

Health Max: 45

[prime fern]

why would i take hermetic over druidic on gloves?

[languid basalt]

higher magic!

[prime fern]

magick is secondary to my build though 🤣

[languid basalt]

boooooo

[woven sigil]

You're biased to summon swarm

Lol

[prime fern]

I'm primarily melee damage, and magick substat for the AOE healing from the charms

[languid basalt]

swarm is op

[woven sigil]

What's the build for 1mil damage just curious

[languid basalt]

'cast swarm' sit back and have tea

[next panther]

aoe healing from charms? charms of healing work? can you use more than one?

[woven sigil]

Have you put your build in here before? I'm tempted to try it

[prime fern]

it's on here somewhere, I don't remember what it is exactly. I'll be making one once I finish this paladin build

[prime fern]

they do, they just don't give any healing numbers on the HUD

[languid basalt]

not yet still working on gear

[woven sigil]

Do you have any data on the percentages

[prime fern]

it's probably like a flat 10%

[woven sigil]

Yeah ik

I have both charms but it's hard to tell

Maybe I'll test with rare refined knife. It does exactly 100

[languid basalt]

found this on reddit it says to get about amil damage

Shotgun crafted in a forge card

Ice revolver charges are to debuff with ice for increased damage.
Lightning buckshot are the strongest damage wise for shotgun.
Assassins sight for weak point damage
Morale for extra damage after emoting
Sniper so damage doesn't fall off with distance
Called shots for more critical damage
Spellsword for extra damage after using an enchantment
Patience for extra damage when full hp and haven't dealt damage for 5 seconds.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nightingale/comments/1b16woh/build_for_over_1mil_damage/

[prime fern]

YEAH, THAT ONE

[woven sigil]

Thanks

[prime fern]

I don't think that shotgun is full kit either

[woven sigil]

So 1mil on animals?

[prime fern]

6k seems low, my smoothbore does that on my group character

[languid basalt]

he has pic in reddit

[prime fern]

at T2

[graceful stratus]

He lined up that shot pretty good. If you're talking just random everyday play you might need to temper expectations a bit 🙂

[woven sigil]

Wow on sun giant too okay

[woven sigil]

Not the expectation, but agree

[languid basalt]

please note this is like a high end crit this does not mean it happens 100% of the time and there are missed weak spot damage aswell as just misses so take that into account

[prime fern]

I'll have to check the mat list between rifle and shotgun and see which has more pieces. that's going to push it soooo much further

[languid basalt]

this is his gear list to so you can see he is not stacking

[prime fern]

charm of the spellsword is smart too

so paradox shotgun has the most mats, tyty

[graceful stratus]

They are fundamentally different to play. Shotgun has 2 shots which you can shoot at once. Rifle has 8 (Lee) to 14 (Winchester) which you can't. You might want both, tbh. On Jana for example, you can shoot it once in the face with V, then it gets metaphysical while it jumps all over the place. Rifle is a nice swap in at this point

[prime fern]

I just cast smash

and she falls over

🤣

[graceful stratus]

Smash?

[prime fern]

like whack, but harder

my strength is high enough she staggers

[languid basalt]

there is a charm of like ammo where i have shot up to 8 times in a row but it is like luck based

[graceful stratus]

Can you explain? I am sure you mean melee ofc, but I don't know what you mean apart from that. Luddite charm?

Lee has 8, Winchester has 14 - so buy the Winchester

[woven sigil]

He only has t2 hexham as well

[prime fern]

this is my axe

[graceful stratus]

Yes, but if you use the unload all on that (V), it empties it no matter what, which is what I think this guy did. It certainly wasn't a single shot

[graceful stratus]

That's a nice axe. I am curious how you got it that high, but I have mats so will try to match. Did you use reclaim bugs?

[prime fern]

no exploits

[languid basalt]

i dont like the v on shotgun from what i seen i can shot 1 and get the same crit or higher vs using the V it makes me feel like it does not take in account the other shot

[prime fern]

pellucidic core, sun giant alternate where I could mix, gilded advanced yew with pellucidic

[languid basalt]

we dont stack in here

[graceful stratus]

Kudos in that case. I still don't see how it staggers Jana though. I've hit her for 40K and not staggered her. And that was in the face. To do that with an axe, in melee.....how, please?

[prime fern]

and that's without a good handle and wrap, I sed T3 wood and T2 pred hide because I didn't have anything else for it

strength determines stagger chance, not damage

[graceful stratus]

I just keep pressing C and getting my clothing. V is horribly hard to reach, so I dumped the shotgun ages ago

[graceful stratus]

Which is fine, I was just asking to remove that variable!

[woven sigil]

Damage doesn't affect stagger. Hit a crit and have enough strength and they stagger

[prime fern]

alr gotta go get taxes done. latah guys

[graceful stratus]

Pursuit all the way, yes

[woven sigil]

Pursuit is so common I can get like 400 ingots in an hour

[graceful stratus]

I'd need to log in to see what my Str is, but I think about 500-ish. Maybe I need to re-infusion. Was not aware of this

[woven sigil]

I think it's almost too common

[woven sigil]

Well he only posted his axe and not the armor

[languid basalt]

made this for my follower

[graceful stratus]

You're overthinking it. Any forest realm 100+ has it like candy. You can get thousands

[graceful stratus]

hah! My tomorrow project. How are they doing with it? And did you make them armour too?

[languid basalt]

they are getting my handme downs but if i was i would focus health

[graceful stratus]

Mine's still wearing what I recruited her with 80 hours ago

Tomorrow I'll do something about that 🙂

For tonight, I'm being kicked offline by wifey

So have a nice evening guys 🙂

And gals!

[languid basalt]

cya

[untold tree]

has anyone made a druidic jacket that was any colour except yellow, tan or brown?

[untold tree]

just wondering if theres a leather that causes other colours... all my experimenting hasnt found much

made my druidic tophat out of t4 swamp fibre and it was just a light tan colour

[languid basalt]

this website is also helpful https://nightingale-labs.com/nightingale/realm-cards/

[woven sigil]

Have you tried tier 1 bug chitin?

[untold tree]

t2 bug made a brown calcularian jacket, dunno about t1

[languid basalt]

yes but you asked about realm cards that was the main thing i was linking it for

[untold tree]

#1212256452249657505 message

[prime fern]

I think I got mine in ascended provisioner forest

[wary compass]

I remapped R and V to my mouse thumb buttons and never looked back

[brazen axle]

whats v do?

same

for mouse buttons i think ,i never need to press v

first thing in every game is to remap everything so I don't know default control scheme 😂

[languid basalt]

thats for shotgun

[wary compass]

V is "ability 3" which includes slamfire on pistols/shotguns as well as activating glide and climb actions

[brazen axle]

ahhhh yeass, thats MB5 for me

xD

never settle for default controls

also accidentally pressing MB5 can erase a portion of my base, so extra caution

[languid basalt]

anyone see this before

[boreal bridge]

first time seeing it

[languid basalt]

zero clue where i got it from

[brazen axle]

yeah, but it makes no differnce

ive tried xD

[woven sigil]

I'm working on it

[woven sigil]

I have it. Breaking Victors house in the desert

I think you can get it elsewhere from breaking book-like items that spawn

[languid basalt]

ah gotcha thanks

[low plaza]

asc hunt 160

WHERE THE HELL IS FABLED HARPY

[languid basalt]

what biome

[wary compass]

behind you.

Maleficiate increases chances of rare drops, btw

[low plaza]

swamp

does difficulty change spawning fableds?

[languid basalt]

we should really write down all the fables names lol so we can target farm

but look at that and change cards around it will show you what has a chance to be there only mobs in that list will spawn

names ones are all fable

[brazen axle]

Drinker of Oceans

Badass name

[low plaza]

its a frog guy

idk i dont know fabled harpy's name

[prime fern]

finally have the rest of the druid set

time to figure out what I'm using on it

[wary compass]

"It's made of fibre, you should put it in the brazier." -your companion

[faint crescent]

I saw a red inner color screenshot that was predator hide/leatherI think, if nobody else has mentioned it

[prime fern]

I need 104 jana for my druidic pants...

it's 10 meat per run right?

[languid basalt]

im farming jana right now

[next panther]

15 meat per run

[prime fern]

alr so 7 runs

not that bad, 2200 essence out of it

[languid basalt]

want to join us law in farming some?

[prime fern]

sure, lemme empty my inventory

oh, 6 runs. I already had 15 on me

[woven sigil]

Fabled harpies don't have a name.

They are just regular harpies and sometimes are fabled. Like the Carnute

[low plaza]

damn, good to know

still somehow i managed to miss even normal ones

did i do smth wrong

i saw ppl have numbers like 700 weight

nvm it was just charm of mule

[low plaza]

does fabled locust have a name or is it same with harpies?

[prime fern]

not sure what the name is, I don't have it on the sheet

[languid basalt]

Law, that Umbrella needs an upgrade. It seen better days.

[woven sigil]

I think fabled locusts DO have a name, but I haven't farmed them

[prime fern]

I'll have you know, this umbrella has been with me through thick and thin

and also I don't have any other umbrella schematics on this char

[languid basalt]

love loading bugs make great screenshots #1213328541047984188 message

So it's been confirmed stacking is not a legit thing.

[prime fern]

[languid basalt]

lol

so rip whoever put time and mats into it

[brazen axle]

gotem

[languid basalt]

Fabled Galumph

[next panther]

do you still need images of stuff thats not in the spreadsheet at present? like fabled t3 achilis

[languid basalt]

@prime fern @flint abyss so looking into the sheet i went to farm some Grendel and i think the stats got mixed from 2 different types into 1 on the Grendel Druid T1 and T2. this was from an asc 160 swamp i just farmed Grendel Druid & Grendel Brute

[honest surge]

what does stacking mean?

[languid basalt]

Combining materials over and over to increase stats on 1 mat.

[honest surge]

oh, gotcha, I think I get it.

[languid basalt]

Fabled Leporidon

[honest surge]

what did you use to get those "Weight, stealth, durability, encuberance" physical stats?

[languid basalt]

greenhouse card it what your looking for i think

[honest surge]

thanks I will look up!

[brazen axle]

weight+ and

both help

[oak meadow]

149? I think

[languid basalt]

this is from greenhouse

[brazen axle]

aye, use that with augments

[honest surge]

thank you

[woven sigil]

I already posted on this too, but no one responded.

[brazen axle]

one of those is from a druid, the other isnt from the looks

[languid basalt]

the other is from the brute

but they are both Grendel

[brazen axle]

grendle is a race like the bound

[grizzled condor]

fabled everhart deer t3 stats

[next panther]

I hope spamming things the sheet indicates missing is desired..

[brazen axle]

thats fine here, but ping @prime fern so he doesnt miss it when he gets around to it

[next panther]

@prime fern going to spam some more then

if individual hide and bone screenshots are required let me know. i might still have them buried in chests too.

[languid basalt]

Fabled Selket's Scorpion T3 is already on the list

and only need 1 they all share the same stats

[woven sigil]

Law's got his work cut out for him

[languid basalt]

na this is nothing you should of seen the other channle mauahahaha

[next panther]

It doesn't look like i still have the meat

[candid bloom]

just found out farming isn't profitable atm

can't understand why would they do this strange balancing in first place tbh

[low plaza]

i got a late thought
all these materials give percent bonuses to base stat numbers of things
and movement speed stat is usually the lowest number in base
is it even worth going for movespeed materials?

did someone check actual in-game effect of running in, say, jana boots vs harpy boots?

[twin egret]

I feel like this base level should be higher

owoops I made the wrong buttons

Still feel like this should be higher... 🤔

[low plaza]

ikn this case using t3 harpy would add just another +0.5%

(i cant find fkin harpies so cant check the actual running speed myself to see if its worth or not)

[twin egret]

let me see if I have some lyin around

only got 12 herm

8 less gs

but definitely more speed

[low plaza]

The question is, does it make the actual difference?

In kilometers per hour

😄

[twin egret]

yeah not sure, I feel like everything is so small in difference that it's negligible

[low plaza]

Wanna spend those 2 leather and 2 buttons for science? :>

[twin egret]

how much science we talkin

BECAUSE I AINT RUNNIN FOR HOURS

[low plaza]

I think u will see immmediately, will u hame more kmh with harpy botots or no

If u wont feel it, then its not worth it

[twin egret]

well this one is for backpack, I don't know if I can afford to make boots too

[low plaza]

Same recipe

[twin egret]

ah

Here's boots comparison

[low plaza]

+3.5% huh

well actually i have a backpack with +3.8% and a backpack with 0 movespeed, so i can test it myself once i get to my pc

but since we found out the umbrella doesnt provide actual ms, maybe thats the case for backpack too, so better to field test both

[low plaza]

did u try them on?

Is there any difference in play compared to chassepot? I mean things like reload time, accuracy etc

Oooh

Thank you

[wary compass]

The umbrella provides move speed while gliding. (May also affect weapon dashes, haven't checked.) You can verify by bringing up the F2 debug screen which shows actual speed in real time.

[low plaza]

Someone here argued that there is samee gliding speed in debug with 2 different umbrellas

This was the discussion (sry for ping Knauss, thought u might be interested in revisiting the topic)

[wary compass]

Maybe there's a cap? I compared a simple umbrella to my endgame umbrella and there was a huge difference.

[twin egret]

naw, I'll do that when im done with mymain set :p

What is considered a "precious metal ingot"?

[wary compass]

copper silver gold and pellucid

[low plaza]

copper silver gold

[twin egret]

ah

[low plaza]

oh pellucd too

[twin egret]

apparently hollow metal is too

thats weird