iām just going to say this now
#šwiki-discussion
agile spindle
i donāt want to have to moderate three different wikis if SN 2 gets made
i donāt understand how you guys are okay with that
remote leaf
^
edgy lagoon
What are you suggesting?
agile spindle
moderating two different wikis is already a pain and itās especially frustrating when i consider a combined wiki to be the better option in the first place
edgy lagoon
A combined wiki doesn't sound that bad. It could work.
remote leaf
I mean, bz and sn being one wikia makes sense to me.
Though i have mixed opinions for having a sn2 on the same wikia as sn1
agile spindle
iām not worried about sn2 yet
remote leaf
Yeah. We can worry about that if it happens
agile spindle
what annoys me is that the SN wiki would be much higher quality if i wasnāt forced to add every template twice
edgy lagoon
I can see how a Combined Wiki could assist in the long run.
Easier management, less time consumption, and more information per item.
hallow basalt
hotline miami has a wiki for both games so
remote leaf
now of course having bz and sn on the same wikia would also mean we would have a duplicate of a lot of pages, i.e (bladderfish would have a page for SN and one for BZ)
agile spindle
i donāt care how other wikis does it
remote leaf
though we also run into the problem with spoilers
edgy lagoon
Hm.
remote leaf
marg being a great example
agile spindle
iām of the opinion that if you come to the wiki youāve already given up your rights to spoilers
edgy lagoon
That's a good point tbh.
remote leaf
true
but obviously spoiler tags should be important on pages for early game stuff
or walkthroughs
edgy lagoon
Of course we should still use spoiler tags, but we shouldn't have to make second pages to avoid them.
Thinks like Marge can have a section for their involvement in Below Zero.
summer kindle
Her involvement in Below Zero is far larger than her involvement in Subnautica
agile spindle
so use the top page spoiler template
edgy lagoon
I mean that's also true.
And the spoiler tag would already be there, just kinda subtly separate the two involvements.
What we could do is have separated spoiler tags for both Subnautica and Below Zero.
I think on the original wiki we do have one for BZ.
agile spindle
when i get home i will make a mock-up
edgy lagoon
I'd be interested in seeing it.
late island
We should maybe try and get back to Ted
not sure how I feel about having the wiki be official if it's still FANDOM though
feels like some weird in between
agile spindle
what does āofficialā even mean
remote leaf
idk
Official doesnt even mean anything to me after staying in the SCP SL discord too long
late island
Yeah I'm not entirely sure
cinder kestrel
Because if Unknown Worlds had to respond to somebody asking for the official wiki, they would probably point to us.
cinder kestrel
Also, @agile spindle :
iām of the opinion that if you come to the wiki youāve already given up your rights to spoilers
You assume a lot from society.
agile spindle
iām not assuming anything
cinder kestrel
Of course, maybe most people are that smart.
remote leaf
if we do make an official one. I wonder if Bippity would be able to move their Clade Chart to it
late island
probably
agile spindle
iām saying you go to the wiki, itās your fault if you get spoiled
edgy lagoon
^
late island
Well I have been wanting to add better spoielr protection
though that was kind of stopped by FANDOM's strange css regulation
edgy lagoon
There's not many easy ways to do that, yeah.
The only thing I could suggest in Collapsible Tabs but they look kinda odd.
late island
Really that separate official wiki network idea feels too good to pass up
even if it's probably unlikely because I don't know if the devs want to host it or move away from fandom considering Ted's background
agile spindle
i pushes for it a bunch of times but you guys seem unwilling to go to him with it
literally all you have to do is email and ask
cinder kestrel
I am in support of the move.
summer kindle
Yeah because I find the idea that he would just go ahead with it a pretty unlikely prospect
Sam do you even know what this is about
late island
The only reason I've seen that people are hesitant about pushing for the move is that they don't think the devs would agree to it
everyone wants it otherwise
agile spindle
so ask
cinder kestrel
So are we in agreement that we want to at least ask how UWE would feel?
cinder kestrel
For a long time? Yes.
edgy lagoon
We still are talking about a combined wiki, right? I got a little lost for a second while I was editing the article.
agile spindle
no
edgy lagoon
What was it on then?
cinder kestrel
Migrating to a new host.
edgy lagoon
Oh okay, I can agree to that as well.
cinder kestrel
Assuming we migrate, if we merge, it would happen around the same time.
agile spindle
if itās the way we discussed then it wouldnāt entail that
cinder kestrel
@TeddyG#2563 Are you guys willing to host our wiki?
While we probably should be more formal than that, that is the basis of what someone should say.
agile spindle
the discussion at this point is not going anywhere constructive
cinder kestrel
Except "someone" will probably end up being "someone else who is not myself," and we will never get it done--which has been the case for a while.
agile spindle
we all know the next step so either someone does it or we stagnate
cinder kestrel
Should I be more formal than my suggestion?
remote leaf
proboably
cinder kestrel
@TeddyG#2563 Are you guys willing to host our wiki?
It is short message attached to a ping on Discord.
remote leaf
uhh. "The other wiki keepers and I are wondering if you are still willing to host the Subnautica Wikia as an offical site?"
cinder kestrel
And maybe ask for their help in the migration process.
agile spindle
sounds to me like stagnate is the option weāre going with
cinder kestrel
As we discussed before, the wiki keepers are interested in migrating the wiki to an Unknown Worlds Entertainment-hosted site. As you can probably guess, there would be work involved in the migration itself, plus maintaining the website (i.e. keeping it up and running). Are you guys still up to this?
Sincerely,
The Wiki Keepers```weāre not pinging ted
cinder kestrel
Whoever reacts with the agree reaction agrees to give me $1,000,000.
remote leaf
looks fine to me
cinder kestrel
Thank you for your contribution, @remote leaf .
remote leaf
late island
maybe we should form together a little document about our plans for this
cinder kestrel
What about you?
agile spindle
so make it and link it dino
late island
that state what we want to do as well as addressing concerns
cinder kestrel
The last time we made a "document" was a checklist on the wiki for who should have done what on the wiki when Below Zero released.
remote leaf
sadly I couldnt give you the 1m
cinder kestrel
But a Google Doc will work as well. I guess.
It's okay. Just tell me where you live and I can go collect the money.
remote leaf
I live in the Sol System
cinder kestrel
agile spindle
yāall way off topic
remote leaf
frail dragon
"Lier"
cinder kestrel
It is on topic for #šwiki-discussion but off topic for the real goal at this time.
"Discuss" being "plan," of course.
frail dragon
@edgy lagoon you have left the cut content page signals as a placeholder for a while
edgy lagoon
Because I haven't had time to check the actual locations of the old signals.
agile spindle
arenāt you on spring break
edgy lagoon
Okay I haven't had time that I'm not using to watch shows. I'm binge watching and keep getting distracted.
cinder kestrel
I gave a better draft on the page.
late island
maybe a google doc instead of a page on the wiki
cinder kestrel
If somebody wants to rewrite the entire thing from scratchfill in the blanks, that would be good.
You want to make it, or should I?
Alright, I made the document.
late island
whereb
cinder kestrel
If I post the link in the public, anybody can access it. If I private message the link, only you guys can access it and you can edit it freely without needing to worry about an account.
agile spindle
so pm it
clever lion
If that helps at all: "Official" on Fandom would mean the developer endorses the wiki, e.g. by linking to it on their website as the official fan resource. Fandom doesn't have official wikis like this, traditionally, but Curse has done this a lot, with quite a few major publishers. And since Curse and Fandom have banded together, it's something we're introducing on the Fandom-side, too. Everyone benefits with this: The wiki gets more credibility (a SEO boost, more traffic, etc), the developer doesn't have to put extra work into hosting a wiki but can leave it to a company that's an expert at it, and the wiki readers can rest assured that the information they see is less likely to be outdated or incorrect. Even better: With these partnerships, sometimes the wiki community gets exclusive content and/or early access
The latter you'd have in both places, obviously
remote leaf
If we go through the move, we should probably get the ips for Bchange and their alts
agile spindle
we canāt
late island
well yeah we'd know it's them anyway
edgy lagoon
It's quite obvious when it's him.
agile spindle
called "Cave Plant"
cinder kestrel
{{SimilarName|cave plant|Cave Bush}}
Not saying that template is necessary, but it is a bit annoying how the names so similar . . . for now.
agile spindle
theyre temp names
cinder kestrel
Alright, I did a bunch of writing on the document.
We still need to discuss the drawbacks to the company for the migration. Ideas include how much FANDOM will assist, how much technical support we may need from them, and how much hardware they would have to set up.
edgy lagoon
Would fandom even assist at all?
cinder kestrel
Possibly.
paper flare
no
agile spindle
no
cinder kestrel
At any rate, they can assist by not claiming all content as copyrighted and forbidden to be used.
It is already copyrighted, so that will be interesting, but let us hope we can still use the stuff.
late island
Should probably have someone else go over the doc after SLS is done
agile spindle
like you for example
cinder kestrel
I already logged out of Google. Somebody else can take care of the missing details (or wait for me to feel up to it).
late island
sure but why me specifically
agile spindle
because this whole thing was your idea
fluid lagoon
who wrote the doc
cinder kestrel
I did most of the writing.
fluid lagoon
that explains the robotic tone
cinder kestrel
Thanks.
It is a document shared by all of us, so you can go on and correct the tone.
"All contributions to Subnautica Wiki are considered to be released under the CC-BY-SA (see https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Wikia:Licensing for details)."
That is a possible hindrance, but I have not looked very far into how it would affect us.
frail dragon
wait i just realized how much wikipedia is kinda like fandom š¤
at least with the way editing is
like the interface
agile spindle
its almost as if theyre run on the same engine
frail dragon
š±
cursive vigil
š¤
frail dragon
which engine is it
agile spindle
mediawiki
frail dragon
ohh
agile spindle
to add life forms to the spawn ids easy-read list or to not š¤
late island
If I'll be honest here these new tooltip templates are more annoying than anything
we can't just type the name and put the [[]] around it
agile spindle
I can change it to work like that if necessary
agile spindle
someone requested to have a hover thing because they didnt know what the fish were when they looked at biome pages
late island
some rando or?
agile spindle
yes
late island
I mean that's maybe not the best source of inspiration
especially since it's just one
considering it's the SN community
agile spindle
I think the people we build the wiki for is the perfect source of inspiration
I'd like to point out that you had so much time to tell me that you thought they were useless but instead waited until after I finished making all of them
late island
I didn't realize it until that big change to every link
before I'd only seen them in passing on the food and water page
agile spindle
well i dont know what you want me to do
i could have SLS remove all of them
im sure he'll be happy to hear that
late island
I mean he was purpose built to serve the wiki
this should make his happy chip tingly
agile spindle
since you seem to hate like 99% of my ideas is there something you do want to see added?
coming up with my own improvements has proven to be a roadblock so far
late island
I mean I've thought about making recipes look more like their PDA counterparts
but that seems complicated
anything else FANDOM probably wouldn't let us do
agile spindle
well say them anyway
cant hurt
@cinder kestrel apparently we want the tooltip links gone
so uh begone them
cinder kestrel
im sure he'll be happy to hear that```
Sure, I would be happy to remove all of https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/SLSbot?limit=312 . I have almost completed a way to entirely automate that process, so it should not take long. The trouble is, since I have to refer to the Wikipedia manual on Regular Expression (I have not memorized any of it), it has been going on for two hours.But, I finally finished and am now ready.
It would have been faster to have done it as manually as I had done before, but oh, well.
And done. Have a nice day.
If you decide you wish to add them back, feel free to undo all those edits.
late island
I'm surprised that's all it took to go through with that
agile spindle
why
agile spindle
we need to either email ted or tell mira weāre staying
gaunt igloo
@agile spindle is cyclops upgrade console really an old photo. Looks like the current one.
Also wiring kit was missing Neptune recipe.
I got a problem with the recipe. It ain't showing up
never mind figured it out
agile spindle
have you looked over it yet?
summer kindle
What does this mean
gaunt igloo
It means it spawn points aren't being generated
agile spindle
if i remember ignisā file correctly it has a spawn point there but doesnāt appear
turbid ermine
Where?
turbid ermine
Oh, purple vents. It has a high probability to spawn there indeed. Didn't you see any?
velvet flare
I found some feather fish in the thermal vents and around rocket island
frail dragon
As far as I know spawns are placed and not generated
cinder kestrel
we need to either email ted or tell mira weāre staying
Once I fill in information on the drawbacks to the company and do some polishing, it should be good to go.
cinder kestrel
Eight wiki keepers online. I like it.
<@&192900629797142528> (Wow, I think that is the first time I have pinged the group)
- Please check out the email draft (that I sent to you all in Private Messaging) and see if there is anything you can improve upon. Sending this out is a project long overdue, so we should get it sent out soon.
- Should we create an email account for the wiki (such as
SubnauticaWiki@gmail.comorUWEwiki@unknownworlds.com)? We could be more official that way. Creating social media accounts is another possibility for increasing our fanbase. https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Social_media_integration recommends creating a Facebook, and some wikis have made a Twitter. None of this would require very much effort to set up.
Thoughts?
agile spindle
no
late island
nah
cinder kestrel
no
Meaning we should cancel the whole email, or I should use my own email to send it out, or we should not use social media? Or is this because I pinged you?
nah
Meaning we should cancel the whole email . . . you get the idea.
agile spindle
we will use someone's email, no social media or wiki email
remote leaf
someone needs to delete this redirect
late island
So are we making a Snowstalker Baby page?
agile spindle
you know terran you dont have to mark it candidate you can just link it
thanks tho
remote leaf
true
young goblet
when will the app for BZ wiki be made
agile spindle
the fandom app already exists
young goblet
I've only seen one for the first game
sage zinc
its adorable
summer kindle
Debatable
sage zinc
look at those adorable eyes
summer kindle
The eyes are what put me off
edgy lagoon
Same
late island
wow that's a quality emote
agile spindle
so Cylindrical Sample Flask is a redirect to Lab Container
but when i click on it it links me to Lab Equipment
š¤
can someone explain why our pages on seeds arent called "Seeds"
keen verge
idk
late island
I wonder if it'd be better to have all of the item icons be in 1x1 form
for consistency
maybe not though
cursive vigil
Is the total damage/damage per tick of gas pods listed anywhere
agile spindle
literally bip adds category and my entire edit is throw out the window
and theres NOTHING I CAN DO NOW BECAUSE IT DOESNT LET ME PUBLISH MY GODDAMN EDIT
god damn it im pissed off
summer kindle
I'm having a similar issue
I was rewriting the page then you deleted it and now the wiki is only showing me the draft of my edit rather than the current version which is what I want
why is this draft thing so awful
agile spindle
thats not a similar issue thats the exact problem
it's so goddamn bad
literally what it wants you to do is rewrite the entire page exactly as it is and publish that except you can't because the only way you can see the code for the page is the show changes thing which doesnt allow you to copy the whole thing
If I press publish twice it should override the draft how is that so hard to do
edgy lagoon
You can easily discard your edit by switching to visual mode, backing the page up using the back buttons on your browser, then opening the edit tab back up. From there it will properly display the option to discard your draft.
agile spindle
thatās a real roundabout way to get anything done
edgy lagoon
Its a fast wat of doing it. You can do it in less than ten seconds.
summer kindle
Itād be nice to have an individual setting to switch it off
Because so far it has only annoyed me
clever lion
Our engineers are currently working on ironing out the considerable kinks the drafts feature still has. If they can't figure out a way to fix it, we might just have to disable the whole feature again until we can make it better :/
Btw, since someone asked: It looks like the SN wiki is indeed already in the Fandom app, but BZ is not. We could add it, though I'd wait with that until you have decided whether or not to stay on Fandom, and whether or not to merge the two wikis into one.
edgy lagoon
@summer kindle I would love the same thing, I'm just providing a current solution to this issue.
Its saved me a few headaches before.
cursive vigil
honk honk
edgy lagoon
Can you not post that in every channel
cursive vigil
^
agile spindle
considerable kinks is putting it nicely i think
@late island where are we on the email?
gaunt igloo
The seamoth page says nothing about the hull reinforcement upgrade in hazards
edgy lagoon
Then add it.
gaunt igloo
cinder kestrel
@agile spindle To answer your question, there have been no edits since I revised 20 hours ago, and before that, another 23 hours. Since nobody else has changed anything over the last two days, I think I will send it out in a few hours. Unless somebody objects, of course.
agile spindle
do you know where to send it
clever lion
@agile spindle Since you and others here really seem to have problems making edits with the new drafts feature, I've talked to our engineers to see if we can't disable that for the time being on your community. After cache clears, you should see it disappear.
clever lion
It should. Everything should be as it was before drafts was introduced.
agile spindle
okay, thank you
cinder kestrel
I assume here.
fierce imp
yes
agile spindle
yea
cinder kestrel
Now, if somebody can think of a better subject than "Migrating the Wikis to Your Website," we should be good.
agile spindle
Wiki Network
agile spindle
should I bother making a page on reinforced glass? the exosuit requires it
agile spindle
you're sure?
summer kindle
Well yeah
Do other recipes that once required enamelled glass not also require it?
summer kindle
Probably just havenāt got around to updating those
agile spindle
the Aquarium Module and Observatory ask for enameled glass
summer kindle
Is reinforced glass an individual item
summer kindle
Do resourcesfor reinforcedglass
summer kindle
Probably an error
agile spindle
kind of a lot of wild things for it to be an error
summer kindle
May as well have them as separate pages for now
summer kindle
Tueman if you wanna ref those things that I added to the trans-gov page
agile spindle
you can just move the ref in that section to the end
since all the info from that section is from that entry
summer kindle
Idk Iām on mobile everything sucks
summer kindle
And the synthetic foods bit is from the Chinese Potato entry iirc
agile spindle
no its from the profile
agile spindle
i guess it's not explicitly stated
but they mention non-synthetic foods being more popular
summer kindle
I specifically said stigmatised though, which would do better if it were referenced by the potato entry
agile spindle
true
summer kindle
More direct
agile spindle
I'll do that after I finish up alterra
cursive vigil
This has been bugging me for a while now
Wiki: "Ice Worms are exclusively subterranean creatures and do not swim."
cursive vigil
I am very upset
short raptor
Semi-often on the wiki I'll get redirected to a virus/scam site
I just had norton do a complete scan and I'm clean
It happened 10 minutes ago on the computer chip page, I changed tabs and when I went back firefox had warned me about a malicious site, I check the address bar and I'm somewhere else entirely
I should clarify that this was the wiki for the first game
agile spindle
we don't control the ads
agile spindle
when did I say that
cursive vigil
Last time we talked
agile spindle
about the app?
agile spindle
We, the Subnautica wiki staff, do not make the Fandom app nor can we control the ads
agile spindle
I talked to a Fandom staff member and they said they are waiting before they add the BZ wiki to the app
Since you're an average user I figure I might ask; would it be easier for you to navigate a wiki for both games or two separate wikis?
cursive vigil
How did you play yourself?
agile spindle
I support merging the wikis but some editors are against it
agile spindle
full game
short raptor
I say keep them split, the games are too different
late island
New Snowfox icon has made it clear that the item icons the wiki currently uses are inaccurate
agile spindle
looks better than in game
remote leaf
Oh good. I wasnt the only one who felt like it was off
late island
and considering that it's easier to just extract them without them being edited as they are
should we go back and start updating our old icons?
agile spindle
youre the only one who does it so i think it's up to you
late island
well I just want to hear what some other people think
agile spindle
i mean accurate sounds good but our icons look better
plus thats a lot of work for you to downgrade our icons
on the other hand it means less work in the future
late island
I think I'll put all of them up on dropbox or something
so I don't have to be the only one doing this
agile spindle
Can I make a blanket page for planets?
summer kindle
So like
Strader VI, Scott III, others and 4546B - 4546L
And Auwell
How many planets are mentioned in entries
summer kindle
City Station 47 presumably is a space station
summer kindle
How many city stations are mentioned
cinder kestrel
More soon!
-Ted```I see City Station 749 in Robinās entry
agile spindle
that might be it, i didnt check the name
summer kindle
And I mentioned Auwell
agile spindle
i think i should have the page include both
summer kindle
What would it be titled
The main issue here in my eyes is how you come up with a title that can encompass both of those
Added a little section about Avery Quinnās trans-gov to the trans-gov page
I just remembered thereās also Sanjei Space Station or something like that mentioned in the Aurora scanner log in the first game
Which is a Mongolian space station
cinder kestrel
Anyway, that's what Ted had to say.
So you need a title to encompass both planets and stations?
agile spindle
is averyās thing part of a trans gov? i donāt think they ever say that
and i was thinking āStar Systemsā so i can mention everything and have a section for other locations
late island
I don't know if we have enough details for that page
summer kindle
Avery states that they are āfrom a little trans-gov on the far side of Andromedaā @agile spindle
agile spindle
ah okay
iām not sure about the name of the page, i though āHabitable Locationsā but then i canāt include the moons
maybe āExplored Locationsā or something more specific to space
late island
Are we even sure about the nature of all these names
agile spindle
the nature?
agile spindle
how about āCivilized Spaceā
summer kindle
This is why Iām in favour of just a planets page
Including the space stations makes it way more complex because they are not really similar in nature
agile spindle
i feel they should be mentioned
just āplanetsā means i canāt include moons and then i canāt include stuff that isnāt confirmed to be a planet
i just want a blanket page for everything so no information is left out
frail dragon
Kind of off topic but it might help me come up with a word
Is there a more scientific word for āspaceā
summer kindle
Not really
late island
I don't think that's exactly "more scientific"
agile spindle
I'm gonna go with "Extraterrestrial Locations" and we can rename it later
frail dragon
Ya I was going to say that because I hesitated because I was unsure if extraterrestrial could also mean like water because I know a terrestrial habitat is just a land habitat
karmic oyster
I mean when people say extraterrestrial it has an alien connotation
agile spindle
Extraterrestrial means not of Earth
so that encompasses any planet/system/space station that isn't strictly on Earth
karmic oyster
And none of this is earth, so
frail dragon
Iām on mobile so itād take forever to check
But is the lavashell command on the console command page
agile spindle
yes
frail dragon
Also can someone change the console command page to add back the Xbox and PS4 controls
I simply stated that they didnāt work at the time so that disclaimer sentence could be removed once they were added back instead of having to rewrite it but then later someone came and removed it completely
karmic oyster
Oh so that was you
agile spindle
I don't know the controls to activate them
agile spindle
ps4 never had them till now right
frail dragon
Yea
karmic oyster
X + PDA button, right?
frail dragon
Check the UWE site
agile spindle
im working on the page dont touch it
agile spindle
well xbox doesnt have A so
agile spindle
PS4*
hallow basalt
only people with 200 iq can understand that trivia in the pipes wiki page
agile spindle
or anyone with a 5th grade education
frail dragon
I did not learn anything about that in 5th grade
If anything it was in in 4th but I donāt remember that
cinder kestrel
The Databank Entry image for the Floating Air Pump displays an incorrect representation of diatomic oxygen, showing it with five valence electrons on each oxygen atom and a single bond between the two, when there should only be four valence electrons on each and a double bond between the two oxygen atoms.
I know I re-learned this in my ninth grade biology class, but I do not remember when I first learned this. At any rate, I am sure my fifth grade self could have inferred everything based on the image.
karmic oyster
lol
remote leaf
I didnt learn about that stuff until 10th grade. Which to be fair. I have millitary parents and moved around a lot
cinder kestrel
I believe I have now narrowed down your identity to one of fifty ~~million ~~billion people.
remote leaf
Oh god
..the thing that scares me is that when i did finally get a lesson on it. I manged to understand it better than my class mates who already had lessons on it
cinder kestrel
There is just one last step: hacking into FANDOM and finding your latest IP Addressesgetting a random name generator and reading off the results until I get your name.
I suppose I deserve "I can report you to Discord," just to match.
remote leaf
not like my first name is already on this discord
late island
So due to the way this extraction program works it was easier to just extract every item with each background
so just upload the right icon as necessary
agile spindle
we should have the concept artists have their best art (in our opinion) as their page bg
summer kindle
Ice Dragon frontal is probably the most fitting for Alexās background
Most others are cluttered with text
Or side views
agile spindle
side views are fine though
agile spindle
man we have like no art for pat
summer kindle
agile spindle
i prefer the jellyfish for him though
summer kindle
Logo
summer kindle
Alex is between Ice Dragon frontal and Brute Shark for me
Ice Dragon frontal is a much more impressive piece so probably that
agile spindle
if you dont like the logo then this one https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/subnautica-arctic/images/5/57/Arctic_MountainCaveBase_LowRes.png/revision/latest?cb=20180910180446
late island
too small for a backgorund
summer kindle
We could always use one of his non-BZ concepts
agile spindle
nah i dont think so
summer kindle
Arctic Spires is nice also
agile spindle
its good but i still prefer the precursor ones
even with the logo
the trench is probably my third choice
summer kindle
I made a version of that without the logo once but I donāt remember what happened to it
late island
Arctic Spires is pretty iconic
summer kindle
This calls for democracy
I want more people on this but also donāt really want to @/Wiki Keepers
agile spindle
wow the three of us are hard split
summer kindle
This sure was helpful
cursive vigil
Nice
wet sand
i am neither of the people you asked for but i vote the spires
fluid lagoon
what do you want
agile spindle
use the strawpoll you dolphin
cursive vigil
What an insult
summer kindle
Damb my option is losing
summer kindle
Wait I wonder if they realised which base picture we meant
I was referring to this one
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/subnautica-arctic/images/5/5b/BigOlColBase.png/revision/latest?cb=20181112232218
cursive vigil
What does someone need to do to help with the wiki
hallow basalt
help with the wiki
agile spindle
^
just do stuff
I don't think my css is working
the parentheses throw it off so i used spaces instead because those worked in the place of colons before
but it isnt updating
cursive vigil
I was wondering what's the largest creature in subnautica
summer kindle
The Sea Emperor
cursive vigil
Wait I thought there was something bigger
Than the sea emperor
I mean like in below zero
Nvm
cursive vigil
The fossil
Lol
That was large asf
But sadly it has gone extinct
How the heck did the fossil even ended up there it could barely move around that area
The biome changed.
Maybe it was 100x bigger before.
Or killed in another placed and dragged to the lost river by the sea emperors.
cursive vigil
^
cursive vigil
Or it used hacks
agile spindle
@cinder kestrel can you purge the comment section of the snowstalker baby page
delete every comment that mentions naming something
fluid lagoon
the heck is going on over there
agile spindle
isac says one goddamn thing and now theyre spamming the page
summer kindle
just delete and remake the page
agile spindle
i dont wanna lose the page history
summer kindle
there not much page history
fluid lagoon
then just manually delete the comments u foole
agile spindle
why do things manually when we have a robot
fluid lagoon
the way of the future
summer kindle
It took like 1.5 minutes
summer kindle
1.5 seconds several hours from now
agile spindle
pft
summer kindle
we should wipe the ice dragon comments
agile spindle
i protest
fluid lagoon
who deleted my comment i will destroy your knees
summer kindle
what comment
agile spindle
what comment
fluid lagoon
my comment on the snowstalker baby page
agile spindle
its a mystery i guess
fluid lagoon
anyway let's wipe the ice dragon comments
agile spindle
no
agile spindle
except the anti-ice dragon ones i can live without those
fluid lagoon
and somebody is out here deleting comments
paper flare
wait that's a violation of the 1st amendment
fluid lagoon
and it is a true mystery as to who it could have been
paper flare
oppressing people's opinions
agile spindle
Freedom of Speech vee
fluid lagoon
you can't say that you deleted my comment
agile spindle
your comment was in violation of the guidelines
fluid lagoon
no it wasn't
agile spindle
yes
summer kindle
i don't even know what it was
agile spindle
imagine the most offensive thing possible
fluid lagoon
i said i was going to steal a snowstalker baby and revel in my act of thievery
agile spindle
then multiply it by V
summer kindle
The Ice Dragon page must have the most comments of anything by far
agile spindle
@frail dragon he said anyways get him
fluid lagoon
mfw 267 comments
paper flare
Lee come 'ere
hybrid bear
Comments should be disabled
paper flare
no if comments were disabled then there would be no fun
anyways can you even disable comments
agile spindle
yes
paper flare
then do it
agile spindle
not on a page-by-page basis though
paper flare
you're lucky you have mira
agile spindle
no
paper flare
not saying you should
agile spindle
then dont say we can
fluid lagoon
why is yes at 88%
agile spindle
32 votes
hybrid bear
Probably because people keep saying how āscaryā it is and we havenāt heard that enough
summer kindle
next highest I saw were Aurora and Ghost Lev which were 1,397 and 1,198 respectively
agile spindle
ice dragon is comparatively lacking
agile spindle
cyclops is 1616
summer kindle
Ok so the top three are probably Reaper, Sea Dragon and Cyclops
agile spindle
does seem like Ice Dragon is the top commented for BZ
summer kindle
what is
agile spindle
ice dragon
summer kindle
oh
I read that as "doesn't seem"
yeah I'm pretty sure it is
From what I see, it's
Ice Dragon
Chelicerate
Ventgarden
Shadow Lev
agile spindle
i smell a pattern
summer kindle
Ice Dragon only has so many because of how many people don't like it
agile spindle
not the pattern i was thinking of
paper flare
leviathans
summer kindle
anyway
@cinder kestrel for the greater good you need to purge the Ice Dragon comments
summer kindle
yes
agile spindle
if he deletes the comments ill delete the wiki
paper flare
that's oppression stop it
summer kindle
How will you go about that
paper flare
mira
agile spindle
i have my ways
summer kindle
anyway, SLS delete the Ice Dragon comments
agile spindle
no
fluid lagoon
i agree with bippity @cinder kestrel
agile spindle
if theyre attacking other players then it's fine but you cant delete comments just because you disagree with them
fluid lagoon
tueman doesn't have a say on this he deleted my comment
summer kindle
It's not because I disagree with them. I just am bored of seeing idiots argue in the comments
hybrid bear
Wiki shouldāve been communist, change my mind
agile spindle
thats not a good reason for purging comments
that wont even stop people from arguing
paper flare
then one edit applies to every article pancakes
summer kindle
it removes old arguments for them to revive
paper flare
even if it's bad and cringey
summer kindle
ur bad and cringey
paper flare
ugh mean af
agile spindle
i think cuno agreeing with me makes my argument weaker
fluid lagoon
indeed
paper flare
gosh wow what positivity radiating from tue right now
I'm always bullied on this server
bye
agile spindle
cya
cursive vigil
....
agile spindle
whats the situation with omega base
summer kindle
We have no databank image for the Arctic Ray
does it just not have one or are we missing it?
agile spindle
doesnt have one
agile spindle
if youre wrong im deleting your discord account
summer kindle
Nobody:
Hydrodynamics of a Featherfish:
https://gyazo.com/2c7f51e4323f5fdde186fe8dfcf9c847
agile spindle
@frail dragon surrender your discord account
frail dragon
I couldāve sworn I saw it
But I was probably thinking of the concept art
agile spindle
very high doubt but ill check
frail dragon
If I did see it that was when the #story thing was there
summer kindle
I don't recall ever seeing one
agile spindle
there isnt one in the files either
frail dragon
I think I know why
I usually recall images by the color
The PDA has a blue theme and so does the Arctic ray concept art
Idk tho
agile spindle
funny i usually recall pictures by language
frail dragon
I mean I recall them by thinking of it
But that one memory was crusty and I tried and failed to tell if it were the concept art of databank entry by color
This sounds like a cheap excuse
agile spindle
clear that memory has been shipped to long term
frail dragon
can I make a page on the LilypadResource? I am wondering why it doesnt have a page because afaik anything that spawns naturally gets a page
agile spindle
frail dragon
where'd you get that from?
agile spindle
the guidelines
cinder kestrel
You mean to tell me there are rules telling the newest users not to roleplay?
frail dragon
what are the guidelines
cursive vigil
FOLLOW THE RULES OR BE ELIMINATED
I think Russian should be one of the languages allowed in the discord
hallow basalt
agile spindle
no
cinder kestrel
Anyway, I will see if I can delete the comments.
cursive vigil
I canāt speak English as well as I can Russian, and my auto translator does not always work
paper flare
it's doing well so far
cursive vigil
Thanks
cinder kestrel
If somebody could get me a macro to rapid-spam Enter and Left Click, that would be perfect.
cinder kestrel
I only ever bothered to read the pings.
So, is the wiki being deleted now?
Yes, if Ted decides "yes." No, if Ted decides "no" (also because the corpse will remain).
Hmm. "Corpse" is a bit harsh.
agile spindle
you didnt think to question being asked to delete an entire page worth of comments?
cinder kestrel
No. Nor did I question protecting all pages against movement.
The former is not against FANDOM ToU, as far as I am aware. The latter, though, could arguably be against the Community Creation Policy.
However, as we later learned, preventing pages from being moved is acceptable.
And now we wait for somebody to come out and whip my bot because it was performing several times faster than I should have allowed it do.
agile spindle
we werent in agreement about deleting comments
cinder kestrel
I forgot that the limit is one edit per second . . .
we werent in agreement about deleting comments
Like I said: I only ever bothered to read the pings.
agile spindle
fool
cinder kestrel
The literal translation of that post is: "I cannot think of a good response right now. I also have to leave very soon, so I will not give a sarcastic comment until later."
agile spindle
i was gonna call you a robot but decided against it
cinder kestrel
So, #dev-check-ins exists. Yay, I guess?
agile spindle
Glacial Basin gets the Lost River treatment, right? Not separate pages?
frail dragon
it would make sense to me
cinder kestrel
gets the Lost River treatment, right?
Yes, the Glacial Basin gets a Sea Dragon Leviathan ramming through it.
It also gets some cool brine.
Oh, I get it: the Glacial Basin will be made freezing.
Not separate pages?
Oh, yeah, that too.
agile spindle
sls stop
pearl spade
epic
frail dragon
Oh I was looking for Lilypad and not Lily Pad
frail dragon
would unused music make sense to put on the cut content page? probably not but i'm asking just in case
and speaking of music can I make an OST page on the below zero wiki (I won't upload the music but I'll do something similar to the OST page on the original wiki)
but i would like to DM someone to see if they know where this one track plays
well I'll just make it for now
if you don't like it you can delete it
do we have the cover art for it?
agile spindle
no music
late island
oh where's that name from?
agile spindle
the game files
late island
Oh I'll go check
frail dragon
Oh shoot I forgot to include that one
I believe it plays in the lily islands
i know i recognize it from somewhere
also for some reason Deep Ambience A says "DRAFT - NOT FOR GAME"
you can also differentiate ben's music from simon's by the capitalization generally
agile spindle
and the fact that its good
turbid ermine
Terror from the deep should be played in the deep twisty bridges.
agile spindle
deep twisty bridges is played in deep twisty bridges
turbid ermine
It has 3 tracks.
The biome I meant.
event:/bz/music/deep_twisty_bridges, event:/bz/music/deep_ambient_a and event:/bz/music/terror_from_the_deep.
frail dragon
you sure?
i only ever hear the Deep Twisty Bridges music down there
well I also don't really understand what you mean though
summer kindle
Well what he posted shows that Terror From The Deep should be playing down there
frail dragon
should as in he wants it to or that it's supposed to?
agile spindle
its supposed to
frail dragon
oh well i have never heard it there š¤·
turbid ermine
First event is always triggered when you're in the biome, then it's random between the three.
frail dragon
Oh
But has anyone else heard it in the lilypads too?
Oh and that explains why I always hear the same music when entering the lava zones for the first time
frail dragon
is this proper english: "2 Unnamed Crew"?
summer kindle
Why do you ask
frail dragon
i see it on the lifepod page and it looks strange
agile spindle
should be two depending on the context
frail dragon
doesn't a crew refer to a group of people and not just one?
summer kindle
The crew of the Aurora
If you wanna be specific then youād say crew-members
Iām fairly certain itās not incorrect though
frail dragon
the bottom one looks ok but the top looks strange
agile spindle
if it's referring to the individual it's crew member
frail dragon
yeah
and also why do like over half the things on the concept art page say " - by..."
it ends at "by"
summer kindle
Because the artists are unconfirmed
summer kindle
Replace them with āunknown artistā if you want
frail dragon
it was painful but i have finished
remote leaf
what
frail dragon
the first comment here hurts me https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Dima_Pertsula_(Developer)
sometimes there's 9 year olds on the internet... and they're not supposed to be
but this is like a 6 year old
hybrid bear
Leave Dima alone.
cursive vigil
Why are you calling him a six yr old?
agile spindle
cause he types like one
cursive vigil
Where is proof
agile spindle
i-it's the comment he linked
cursive vigil
I donāt see it
agile spindle
agile spindle
note that blue words are links
clicking on them will open a webpage
note that lee said "comment"
agile spindle
like most (read: 100%) of websites, comments are at the bottom of the page
cursive vigil
Ok
cursive vigil
If you are on mobile you may have to click the "comments" section at the bottom to open comments
agile spindle
as you can see, there are two comments on the page
agile spindle
note that, in this case, the first comment is the one on top
cursive vigil
Dima did not write that though
agile spindle
no one said dima said anything
agile spindle
observe the comment and see that it has a date and username
"by" usually indicates ownership
agile spindle
if you use your reading abilities, you will notice that the comment is by "A FANDOM user"
cursive vigil
I just didnāt see it
agile spindle
A FANDOM user is, surprisingly, not the same as "Dima Pertsula"
agile spindle
through empirical methods and simple logical functions we have determined that the comment was not written by dima
agile spindle
but rather some fandom user who, as lee said, sounds like a 6 year old
cursive vigil
The mighty Tueman has pardoned your sins
Iām not from a third world country
YIKES
agile spindle
oh...
cursive vigil
That was a roast
agile spindle
awkward...
i guess not all first world countries have a 100% literacy rate either then
cursive vigil
big yikes
I thought that the issue was posted straight up
Not in the comments section
agile spindle
in the future we will try to post the comment directly, rather than forcing people not included in the conversation to access that small part of their brain
cursive vigil
Tueman is losing his grip
Please stop
Iām asking nicely
Yeah this is getting a bit out of hand
agile spindle
thank you for coming to my ted talk
agile spindle
you asked a stupid question and you got a stupid answer
cursive vigil
Yes but Tueman is a hungry vulture looking for scraps to eat
I will never ask questions ever again then
I mean....it solves the problem?
Not to tueman
agile spindle
i feel like the situation is resolved, then
cursive vigil
I have a bad idea
agile spindle
ah, your most common
cursive vigil
Shut up
Yes I wouldn't ask Tueman things because if you make the slightest oversight he will ridicule you to the fiery depths of Hades
It involves pinging
agile spindle
if you think im bad make sure never to get on vee's bad side
cursive vigil
Well that's a poor idea
You will be banned
I know
Iām not going to do it
How do you know if youāve been banned
You get kicked from the server and can't rejoin
remote leaf
it will say invaild invite if you try to rejoin
agile spindle
^ primary source
cursive vigil
All your messages also disappear but only people in the server notice that
remote leaf
yeah Im pretty much the primary source for that
cursive vigil
Iāve never been kicked from a server
cursive vigil
I've been banned from a few
wet sand
this doesn't have much to do with the wiki anymore now does it
remote leaf
note that how I still have messages
cursive vigil
I mean a wiki discussion lead into this
It is just people roasting me because I made a small mistake
wet sand
and now you can lead yourselves to #off-topic
remote leaf
I think it only deletes the last messages in the past 24 hours
cursive vigil
Depends on what option you pick. You can choose if you want to delete all or only some in a certain time frame
frail dragon
@remote leaf itās an option
Delete none, delete past 24 hrs, or delete past week
cinder kestrel
it was painful but i have finished
@frail dragon What if I told you I could have had that done in a matter of minutes?
Does that ease the pain, or does that just inflate it?
cursive vigil
Can't wait to see this
cinder kestrel
See what?
cursive vigil
The argument
cinder kestrel
Resulting from . . . ?
cursive vigil
What you said just above my first message
cinder kestrel
That I could have had it done in a matter of minutes?
What argument were you expecting to arise from this?
cursive vigil
Him denying it, it's Lee after all
cinder kestrel
Denying that I could have done it so quickly?
cinder kestrel
Well, of course I could have had it done quickly. Lee23 knows that (if not, a quick reminder will fix that).
cursive vigil
Oo nice
cinder kestrel
Suppose I told you I am referring to SLSbot, a bot account I operate, who could have done it automatically.
Does that change anything?
cursive vigil
Oh it indeed does, that makes more sense I apologise I didn't know that