are you gonna make one for boomerangs?
#đwiki-discussion
summer kindle
yeah I haven't added everything I wanna add yet
sinful yarrow
who are you? and what have you done with bip?
cinder kestrel
@fluid lagoon
You are requested by @sinful yarrow .
If that counts for you.
You know what you should have done, though? Changed your Discord ID's (you know, by hacking).
Or trading accounts (and then get banned globally).
agile spindle
@cinder kestrel whatâs your dream april fools prank?
cinder kestrel
dream april fools prank
I spent a minute looking at that, trying to figure out some clever response. I could not think of any.
sinful yarrow
It's actually May
frail dragon
Is SLS human
cinder kestrel
Perhaps, Lee23.
fierce imp
@agile spindle i believe it's just CoveTree if you still need that
summer kindle
clade info still doesn't seem to work
agile spindle
I havent set it up yet
I checked earlier and it wasn't accepted, but it is now so I'll set it up, hold on
@summer kindle should work now, use {{CladeLink|Alpha Peeper}} and such
In my test the tooltip looked very skewed so lmk if i need to change something
summer kindle
it's very narrow for some reason
also unfortunately I can only display the text with capitals on both words
agile spindle
What do you mean?
summer kindle
Scientific names are meant to be written as Filum arctos, with the species name not capitalised
But because the template name has to be capitalised I can only show it as Filum Arctos
agile spindle
I fixed the width, I changed it from a % width to a pixel-width, modify as necessary
and I fixed the naming, use a second argument {{CladeLink|Alpha Peeper|Alpha peeper}} to show what text you want, it'll default to the first name if there's no second argument
summer kindle
Oh I just forgot to change superfamily and family on Oculus
paper flare
vee when did you become mod
paper flare
wait
NO
he had wise bip
I was wondering why she was being so nice too
she never says thanks
agile spindle
except to kiel
paper flare
reginaldae
agile spindle
reginald reginald reginald reginald
agile spindle
Why are the featherfish both in the pluma family but the Peeper/Oculus are not both one family? shouldn't they share a family or be on the same level as Arctic Peeper?
summer kindle
Featherfish are much less differentiated than the Oculus and Peeper
I initially was going to place the Oculus and Peeper in one but generations of cave isolation has made them very distinct
agile spindle
Shouldn't they be level with the arctic peeper then
late island
Are you ready to place the Ghost Leviathan in the wrong spot in the eel line?
cinder kestrel
Why is your ID 139794238434050048 (i.e. BippityBop) if you are Vee? And why [insert more stuff that a youngster would say in opposition of the spirit of the joke]?
summer kindle
@late island No I'm just refusing to add that one
I added the Rockgrub and that's pain enough
paper flare
because, SLS, the human race takes part in a tradition every April the 1st, called "April fool's day"
in which you proceed to prank everyone by spreading misinformation
summer kindle
I'm refusing to detail the Rockgrub's taxonomy though because it just messes up the whole thing
it clearly doesn't belong anywhere near that position
also tueman that confusion is why traditional taxonomy is being moved away from in the first place
late island
Yeah I heard about that
agile spindle
glad to hear it's not me being dumb again lol
What would taxonomy change into if not the current system?
summer kindle
giving things specific ranks is misleading.
Mammalia
Aves
Amphibia
Reptilia
These are all taxonomically ranked as classes
however
Reptilia emerged from within Amphibia
And Mammalia emerged from a closely related branch to reptiles
and Aves also emerged from within Reptilia
so to rank them as equal when one gave rise to the other and so on is pretty confusing
late island
we're all just fish
summer kindle
What is being used instead is cladistics
Basically just the same
but things don't have ranks
you have clades which are a group of organisms descended from one common ancestor
clades nested within clades within clades
without any sort of ranking because that just causes issues
agile spindle
You're still using taxonomical classification though right?
summer kindle
I'm using both
agile spindle
Well I may not understand it super well but so far the cladogram looks real neat
summer kindle
Do you think I should keep the Peeper genus name as Vita or something else
late island
viva
summer kindle
I chose Vita because it means life, which is pretty fitting seeing as they spread the enzymes all over
but I also don't really like how it sounds
agile spindle
cerevisiae (enzyme)
summer kindle
nah
summer kindle
we'll go with Celer
oh nice I can make the tooltip work for images too
It comes up when you hover over the image now and not just the name
much better
that reginald image needs cropping
oh no I cropped the empty space and he's a titan now
god save us all
agile spindle
titan reginald
hallow basalt
big boy
edgy lagoon
There is no god. There is only Titan Reginald.
summer kindle
I love this template
fluid lagoon
it's blue like the ocean
agile spindle
how do we make it look not garbage
summer kindle
Is this the default look
agile spindle
I haven't changed anything so, yes
agile spindle
It's supposed to match our wiki colors
summer kindle
Can you apply a custom background to it
agile spindle
Not sure, it's not a page with /wiki/ before it
summer kindle
Actually that wouldnât work at all would it
agile spindle
it's just /f
summer kindle
Well itâd be nice if we could have an image set as the background instead of that
agile spindle
I've no idea how to change CSS on the page
Oh, isn't it separate from MediaWiki actually?
summer kindle
Yeah, thatâs why I said it wouldnât work
I think itâs a whole different thing
Definitely needs some customisation options
agile spindle
Nope
The only way to change it is to set a background in the theme designer and that overrides the backgrounds on every single page in the wiki
summer kindle
damb
agile spindle
Actually, best I can do is change the wiki color altogether
doesn't seem to affect anything else
small improvement
summer kindle
needs a night mode
cinder kestrel
that overrides the backgrounds on every single page in the wiki
Sorry, it unfortunately will not override the backgrounds for pages that got CSS-customized backgrounds.
agile spindle
I don't understand why they didn't just make it with MediaWiki so the wiki admins could actually edit on their own wiki
cinder kestrel
Because it would be harder for them to design it using MediaWiki.
opal raptor
could u guys watch this montage i made
cinder kestrel
@opal raptor #off-topic ?
opal raptor
Ok
agile spindle
On the SN wiki it's using the themedesigner background just fine
albeit it is very obscured
Why is Gel Sack the 9th most viewed page?
summer kindle
I guess people have trouble finding it in game
agile spindle
might make sense, BKZ is like 11th
summer kindle
Gel Sack used to have one of the videos
agile spindle
they just dumped those on all the most popular pages
cinder kestrel
One might think Mira Laime was busy:
late island
Who changed it then?
agile spindle
I changed the color but that was through the Theme Designer
late island
oh someone else changed it to a similar color
wait did that change other parts of the wiki?
agile spindle
no
When I put a BG in the theme designer it overrode the rest of the wiki
but changing the color didn't do anything else afaik
frail dragon
omg why is console commands the first thing on the wiki discussions page
and why does the wiki discussion page even exist in the first place??? it's a WIKI... not some community hub thing
agile spindle
I'm not completely against the idea of its existence I just hate the way it looks
frail dragon
and also it's only used by like 9 year olds
agile spindle
Most of our userbase is 9 year olds
agile spindle
is she the legendary new FX artist?
fluid lagoon
yes
agile spindle
đź
fluid lagoon
fluid lagoon
i was told that she's worked on big games before
agile spindle
Luke Adwick does environmental models right?
fluid lagoon
yes what about it
agile spindle
looks like jabba the hutt
fluid lagoon
have you never watched ghostbusters
agile spindle
not in like 10 years no
fluid lagoon
then you are lost
cinder kestrel
have you never watched ghostbusters
That is correct.
late island
I didn't know you were Tueman SLS
fluid lagoon
why did you need to answer this
you weren't even a part of the conversation and it was over 40 minutes ago
cinder kestrel
Oh yeah, it was forty minutes ago.
agile spindle
Wasnt that constructive a conversation 40 minutes ago either, to be fair
late island
still doesn't explain that answer
cinder kestrel
(I was expecting vee to say I was really lost)
late island
but that wasn't your question
agile spindle
I think you're all wasting your time with this conversation
late island
unless you meant to say you also haven't watched it
cinder kestrel
I have never watched Ghostbusters.
I finally realized you guys thought I was trying to answer for tueman.
cursive vigil
agile spindle
it was stupid
frail dragon
i'm beginning to doubt the existence of purple pinecones
i looked everywhere
all i found are what looks like the relatives of purple pinecones
heady gulch
Arenât they inhabitants of the mushroom forest still?
heady gulch
In the past I had no issue finding them
From my memory they were on the trunks of the mushroom trees or the ground
heady gulch
I am uncertain on that, Iâll check when I have the Chance
frail dragon
okay
i spent about two hours looking in the mushroom forest, grand reef, and crash zone
none found
fluid lagoon
they exist
frail dragon
evidence??
fluid lagoon
must i go in-game because you're incapable of finding them
agile spindle
vee's hrs
heady gulch
@frail dragon use scanner room or freecam to search
frail dragon
i dont think you can scan for them
agile spindle
i dont know that the scanner room would detect them
frail dragon
and i wish you could at least spawn them
heady gulch
Iâm not sure either, from my memory it detected many things including feedbacks and leviathans
Reapers that was
Worth a shot at
And if it canât pick up on it then we can add that to a list of things the scanner room wonât find
frail dragon
omg i found more of these
still no purple pinecones
although they can be hit with the knife to do instantly destroy it, they are different than outcrops and don't drop anything
heady gulch
Odd
agile spindle
no
heady gulch
If we can verify they still spawn naturally and that those which do in, assuming your right on this, incredibly scarce amounts arenât just ones the devs forgot to remove entirely
frail dragon
i've found 5 so far
heady gulch
If thatâs the case then I think The page should be deleted or if itâs not supposed to be naturally appearing anymore, then placed in the cut content page
frail dragon
okay
heady gulch
Iâll check when I get the chance
frail dragon
and has anyone found any in the crash zone?
frail dragon
checked three already
found none
i found another one of these though
were some purple pinecones replaced by that?
hallow basalt
uh i doubt it
hallow basalt
"Occasionally, the Crash Zone"
huh
must've meant "doesn't exist but can't confirm nor deny"
i never saw any in the deep grand reef
or crash zone
but i've seen at least 3 in one of the mushroom forests
frail dragon
ok i've counted twelve of the weird green pinecones
hallow basalt
hmm
frail dragon
have those even been discovered before?
agile spindle
yes
hallow basalt
ye
agile spindle
theyre just decor
frail dragon
oh s###
hallow basalt
there was a small place in one of the mushroom forests that has a bunch of flora
i remember seeing a pinecone close to that
frail dragon
fluid lagoon
epic
frail dragon
right along the border of the grassy plateaus of the northwestern mushroom forest
agile spindle
the lack of ghost in this game hurts me deeply
frail dragon
ya
hallow basalt
ghost?
hallow basalt
đ»
agile spindle
ivan doesnt have BZ
frail dragon
oh
fluid lagoon
it's just freecam but when you type the command again the player moves to where the camera is
frail dragon
well for me putting `` around something makes it into a command
idk why i think that
agile spindle
the nice thing about ghost is that you can ghost and then freecam to port back to the player, or freecam and then ghost
frail dragon
omg i found pygmy fans for the first time also
heady gulch
claps
hallow basalt
you might have found what i was referring to
frail dragon
this is the actual cut content heaven
where all the plants that were placed nowhere else go
fluid lagoon
that's not cut content though
heady gulch
I wouldnât be surprised if itâs supposed to be, remember for a while the biome eggs still spawned after the removal of fauna analyzer?
agile spindle
biome eggs do spawn
agile spindle
eggs that spawn in biomes
heady gulch
Wait they still do?
They are strange egg things that are unusable
frail dragon
can you spawn them with commands?
i never saw them on the cut content page or anything
heady gulch
They are just called âgrassy Plateau eggâ or stuff like that
agile spindle
yeah the grassy plateaus egg is spawnable
i remember seeing its code when i went through the list for BZ
heady gulch
They are still spawnable with commands, they have been around for a long time, they even have one called twisty bridges egg
But I remembered for a long time nearing up to 1.0 They occasionally spawned in the wild
I only found the grassy plateau egg spawn naturally
heady gulch
Yeah they arent usable and I think were cut with the fauna analyzer
frail dragon
i guessed the command for one
heady gulch
But still for a long time they were left around spawning in game, the fauna analyzer is still spawnable but not buildable.
So my best guess is like the biome eggs, the purple pine cones could be something that wasnât fully removed
frail dragon
is this model reused from something else?
hallow basalt
yes
heady gulch
But considering itâs already v 1.0, my idea is more of a theory considering you would expect the devs to have fully patched this kind of stuff up.
hallow basalt
that single eye stalk in the bulb zone caves still haunts me
heady gulch
So I would rather confirm it with a dev if the purple pine cone is supposed to be removed content then to jump to conclusions and delete the page for it.
frail dragon
so should we remove it from grand reef and crash zone though?
agile spindle
yeah
heady gulch
Iâll do a through look through the biomes when I have the chance.
hallow basalt
i would like to check them too
heady gulch
Which biomes have you noted they donât appear in?
hallow basalt
but i'm sure crash zone doesn't have any
heady gulch
And which biomes do they?
hallow basalt
deep grand reef might be
place is too dark and I can only find gel sacks most of the time
agile spindle
the page says DGR, CZ, and MF but lee only found one in MF
frail dragon
should we have stuff about biome eggs on the cut content page?
hallow basalt
northwestern mushroom forest has them
frail dragon
i found two in the mushroom forest actually
agile spindle
we dont know anything about biome eggs
heady gulch
Yeah we should have the biome eggs on cut content
hallow basalt
idk about northeastern
agile spindle
the fauna analyzer already has a section
heady gulch
I think they were supposed to be removed after the announcement of the large aquarium or scrapping of the analyzers
hallow basalt
or it might just be that they don't actually spawn down there anymore
cuz everytime i thought i found one it turned out to be a gel sack
clever lion
Re: the convo above - The new Discussions Feed is indeed not built on MediaWiki because that would have brought a host of problems and few benefits. Fandom is already using an older version of MediaWiki because we have so many custom extensions (Chat, Message Walls, the old forums, etc.) that are built on that older version and make it impossible to update to a newer MW version. So if we used MediaWiki for Feeds, we'd just build ourselves one more roadblock towards updating MediaWiki. Plus, building it separately from that made it much easier to make it completely mobile-compatible. It'll be easier to update in the future. And it can be customized via the ThemeDesigner, although the options there are limited to colors and the background image at this point.
agile spindle
For some reason the ThemeDesigner is acting differently on our wikis
On SN the background image doesn't override our CSS but on the BZ wiki, it does
clever lion
And it's the exact same CSS?
I can see that the Feed on BZ isn't showing the background image, but I'm guessing that is because you don't have one uploaded in the ThemeDsigner
agile spindle
Yeah I took it off because it changed the background for all pages
looks like on BZ we have the wiki-wide background set in the CSS but on BZ it is set in the theme designer
clever lion
That would explain it
agile spindle
still, the themedesigner background on SN does not override our other pages
when I tried changing the ThemeDesigner background on BZ it overrode every page's custom background
clever lion
Hm, I don't see an obvious reason why it would do that, without doing a deep-dive into the custom code you're using there
frail dragon
oh btw @agile spindle I'm not seeing anything about biome eggs
agile spindle
do we know anything about them
agile spindle
you just described the current eggs
late island
What are you trying to do with biome eggs?
agile spindle
lee wants to add them to cut content
late island
okay then do so
summer kindle
The biome eggs were meant to be put into an analyser to find out what egg they were iirc
late island
yeah that was the deal
summer kindle
@frail dragon and no the Rabbit Ray egg model is not shared with the Gasopod
Theyâre completely different
summer kindle
Oh right yeah. That does use the Rabbit Ray egg model.
frail dragon
is the grassy plateaus egg model unique?
agile spindle
it's probably Spadefish/Reefback
edgy lagoon
Someome marked the Cut Content page as a Candidate for Deletion.
edgy lagoon
Like they said it's useless.
frail dragon
it has a use
frail dragon
the cut content page may be my most edited page
hallow basalt
i'm so tempted to undo that
agile spindle
I undid it like 5 minutes ago
hallow basalt
ik
heady gulch
What a dramatic description
hallow basalt
we never heard the end of
frail dragon
that thing is terrifying
heady gulch
I think the snow stalker is more of a polar bear mixed with a stalker than anything else
frail dragon
wait a second
can anyone test the sandbox console command?
original subnautica preferably
agile spindle
doesnt do anything in bz
Is it supposed to teleport you to a sandbox world? Klegran said they had that at first but lost it and didn't do it again
frail dragon
yeah
agile spindle
well i guarantee it doesnt do anything important in SN either
late island
Should be add a guideline about not using freecam or ghost since those commands disable DOF
agile spindle
whats DOF
frail dragon
Depth of field? idk
edgy lagoon
I'm having a discussion with some dude because I fixed Peepers edits and told him how to fix them.
agile spindle
technically you didnt inform the guy of his mistakes because you wrote it in edit summaries rather than on his wall
can someone add blue barnacles to the flora page on the SN wiki
I am doing the Flora page on BZ atm
agile spindle
@summer kindle if blue barnacle doesn't have a PDA entry couldnt we technically put it in fauna
late island
maybe we shouldn't have it on there at all if it doesn't have one
late island
but I think it was in the flora section before so that's what we go with
yeah no page
that's what we did for other flora lacking an entry
agile spindle
late island
that isn't supposed to be a thing
agile spindle
late island
that has a harvesting node so it gets a pass
agile spindle
late island
Treespawn is supposed to be deleted though
agile spindle
late island
I don't even know why we have Bloodgrass page
agile spindle
late island
tueman please
agile spindle
there really isnt much consistency in how we do things
agile spindle
yes
I don't understand how we determined what does and doesn't deserve a page for BZ
late island
BZ we just throw everything on there
agile spindle
these guys dont get a page
late island
and later we'll cull it
agile spindle
Snow Bulbs arent there either
late island
well let's put them on there then
agile spindle
these lil guys
also these kiddos
which are called white coral cluster
and if we're putting game-files flora should hivemind have a page
summer kindle
We have no idea what that even is
fluid lagoon
it doesn't even look like it belongs in BZ
agile spindle
What's the difference between it and the mace plant
summer kindle
Yeah Iâm not sure itâs even for BZ
agile spindle
we know nothing about either
late island
hivemind looks like a test assets similar to the sandworm
summer kindle
Think I'll add a list of all the different fauna species that I can't really fit into larger groups and just give them their own scientific names and leave them at that
stuff like the Gasopod which can't really fit into a larger group anywhere because it just doesn't resemble anything else
summer kindle
genus and species
there's a lot of creatures which don't fit into larger groups well
agile spindle
How do you name the genus if there's nothing to compare it to though
summer kindle
Just name it after the animal
anything belonging to the same genus would have similar characteristics anyway
and the actual name really doesn't matter that much
which is why there are various animals named after celebrities
late island
like han solo
summer kindle
yes
late island
the trilobite
agile spindle
``` oofmadlad
summer kindle
And there are a bunch of genera named after people anyway
I posted one the other day
Andrewsarchus
and that I guess
agile spindle
christ
summer kindle
basically the meaning of the name does not matter at all
ok this guy's a serial offender
agile spindle
summer kindle
this Bond guy named 8 spiders of the genus Aptostichus after famous people in 2012
agile spindle
thats 24th century fashion
summer kindle
The Miocene was a wild time for fashion
name for Rockgrub
Falsus malum
just means false and wrong
frail dragon
why does the cut content page say (item weatherstation) when it would be more practical to do spawn weatherstation?
agile spindle
because item is superior
agile spindle
Wrong channel and not possible
sinful yarrow
spawn command
agile spindle
you cant spawn the cyclops in bz
sinful yarrow
doesn't have to be only in bz
agile spindle
remind me why you posted it in here?
sinful yarrow
because item and spawn were spoken about, and could theoretically possibly provide some thing for the wiki?
late island
I don't see what it could provide
agile spindle
we dont put information about what happens when you spawn stuff on the wiki
sinful yarrow
gotta try everything to see if it yields anything at all worth putting on the wiki tho
agile spindle
Vehicles are pretty well documented as is
late island
I don't see what could happen
agile spindle
@hallow basalt were there purple pinecons in the GR?
agile spindle
oh can you add that to the appropriate pages
eggs said it was unimplemented before
agile spindle
oh well nevermind then
cinder kestrel
@agile spindle https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:191604#10
Unknown the anonymous sent a message to AnomalyDetected because Peeper101 doing some badge farming. Anomaly was having an "editing war" because of Peeper.
agile spindle
No Unknown sent messages to Anom for taking 3 edits to fix Peeper's work which looked like badge-farming
hallow basalt
if he knew all of the other work anom has done by looking at recent activity he wouldn't be saying that
cinder kestrel
"Anomaly is a member of the Subnautica discord with the admins . . . . We know he isn't badge farming."
I am not sure why you mentioned whether AnomalyDetected is being a badge farmer if Peeper101 was the one being accused.
agile spindle
Anom was being accused
cinder kestrel
(Rereads and realizes you are right about who got accused)
edgy lagoon
Yes, I was being accused of badge farming because I corrected his links like most others normally would.
Aka from [(link] (name)] to [[(name)]]
I had already talked with Peeper about the issue, and he said he'd do that next time.
So the whole argument made no sense to me.
frail dragon
How many people with either the word Peeper in their name or a profile picture of a Peeper are on the wiki...?
agile spindle
at least 1
cinder kestrel
Don't worry, I read the rest of thread correctly.
cinder kestrel
Zero, because underage users are considered below peopleDefinitely at least six.
summer kindle
There was a stage where there were probably 5 or 6 Peeper accounts active
agile spindle
including pedro
summer kindle
Warper accounts used to be the big thing as well
agile spindle
gush
cinder kestrel
I would get my bot to get a list of all users, and then look for "peeper," but then I would have to go to my backpack, pull out my USB drive, and launch the program. I can instead go to my backpack and do homework, because I want to be at least a bit responsible.
But is that really being responsible--doing homework?
Nevermind, I will check with my bot.
14 on the Below Zero wiki.
edgy lagoon
Okay, just checking in on my latest edit, I undid his edit because it mentioned that they could grow seed pods when it was mentioned directly above his additional info.
Wait a moment, I read it a little wrong
agile spindle
anom you don't need to warn us about your edits
edgy lagoon
Well I read it wrong so now I kinda should
cinder kestrel
Otherwise, I would have stolen your edit undo.
agile spindle
well you can just undo it
agile spindle
no
cinder kestrel
No, because I already did.
agile spindle
it's common sense
edgy lagoon
Oh.
cinder kestrel
I assumed the fact was true.
edgy lagoon
Apologies on the false edit, it's my mistake.
cinder kestrel
It is okay. I got a free edit out of it.
Is it truly common sense? Assuming the user is right, the seeds only regrow on the same plant when the plant is in captivity--which would not be too logical to me.
edgy lagoon
Anyways I should probably do something to make myself not look like an idiot.
Important question: Are things cut from the original game but are appearing in Below Zero considered Cut Content?
agile spindle
no
edgy lagoon
So don't add them to the cut content page?
agile spindle
oh you mean on the SN wiki?
edgy lagoon
Yes.
agile spindle
how do we have it now?
agile spindle
neither of those are BZ
edgy lagoon
Yes, so I wanted to know if I should add the cut ones that are in BZ.
agile spindle
if they arent there now dont add them
summer kindle
The cut content pages only apply to the wiki theyâre on
agile spindle
I assume someone went back and took them out so keep them off it
summer kindle
The Mohawk was cut from the first game, so it belongs in the cut candidate page there
As does the Rock Puncher
agile spindle
how much info do we put on it tho
cause not all the stuff that is planned now for it was planned at the time
edgy lagoon
Each has a small one to two paragraph description.
With an image or a gallery attached.
summer kindle
I donât even know what youâre saying there tueman
agile spindle
Back then they planned for rockgrubs to be its larva
clearly that isnt the case now
agile spindle
would we put that on there or would we add info that is planned currently?
summer kindle
Ok but why is that relevant to the Rock Puncher having been cut from the first game
edgy lagoon
I can mention it was both
That the Rock Grub was both food and it's child
Like in the description for the Rock Puncher.
Actually
Hold on, should I keep the mushroom shrinking?
It's on the page but is that worth while?
late island
leave it
otherwise why bother
really that page should probably be much longer and more dense with cut stuff
agile spindle
speaking of mushroom shrinking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsMfheshfX0&t=0s
late island
there isn't exactly a tcrf page for SN
so we're the only place actually documenting any of this
agile spindle
TCRF meaning
late island
agile spindle
yes
agile spindle
We should totally make one for SN this wiki looks cool
edgy lagoon
I can investigate and get any images y'all want, as I have multiple of the older versions.
late island
We could basically turn the page on our wiki into this
edgy lagoon
Well do wait until I finish reformatting it at the moment.
edgy lagoon
This page hasn't seemingly been updated in a bit.
Formatting seems a little different from the normal.
agile spindle
like what
edgy lagoon
I don't know, maybe it's just me, it's all just kinda odd looking.
How should I do the spawn ids?
"Spawn: (id)"?
agile spindle
<code>item dead thing</code>
agile spindle
See how i did it on the BZ Wiki
edgy lagoon
I need Calcium's spawn id and icon. What version should I try?
agile spindle
how do you know any have it
edgy lagoon
I mean it's on the cut content page, and it says it was used in recipies.
agile spindle
the icon i mean
edgy lagoon
The icon? No clue.
agile spindle
edgy lagoon
I'll figure out if it does.
agile spindle
^ comprehensive list of IDs from both games
edgy lagoon
I'll check for it there, but which version would be best to find it in?
M-D-Y by the way.
agile spindle
ive no clue
edgy lagoon
Hmm...
agile spindle
probably not
frail dragon
wait should we have the grab crab on cut content
frail dragon
i'm alphabetizing the stuff right now
edgy lagoon
No wait
agile spindle
i hope youre aware anom is editing
frail dragon
it was in alphabetical order but we had some newer editors add some stuff in random places
edgy lagoon
Wait don't I'm editing it
frail dragon
ok
edgy lagoon
I'm doing a lot right now so just wait on that.
agile spindle
anom you can do it while youre in there
edgy lagoon
But I'm also reorganizing the whole thing.
edgy lagoon
I am doing it in two ways.
There's the categories, which are all Alphabetical, then all the sub-categories are alphabetical.
agile spindle
yes i got that
edgy lagoon
Just making sure.
frail dragon
still working on the page?
edgy lagoon
Yea it's gonna be a while.
frail dragon
make sure you don't lose everything
edgy lagoon
I won't.
agile spindle
Cory said it's very unlikely
edgy lagoon
Some of these icons are smaller than others and it's infuriating.
agile spindle
you can specify size when linking a file
edgy lagoon
The little ones had none, the bigger ones had 64 by 64
I set the little ones to 64 by 64 but they didn't really change.
The problem may lie in the original file size.
I can try and replace the source manually with larger icons?
That sound good?
Yea the smaller ones are too small to match the others
So I either increase the smaller or decrease the larger.
agile spindle
what
frail dragon
s t r e c h
edgy lagoon
The smaller icons are 40x40, and they won't seem to stretch larger for some reason.
agile spindle
you should be able to scale even with thumb
edgy lagoon
This line doesn't work.
I removed the thumb to test and it did fix the size but it placed it on the left instead of the right.
agile spindle
change thumb to right
edgy lagoon
Oh
Well there ya go.
It's fixed now.
Thanks for the help!
Lets see, I need Zinc and Sand ids.
Probably a lot more but those are the two I found.
Also would Sand be considered a Material since it was used in crafting? (Glass)
agile spindle
yes
agile spindle
cool good so far
agile spindle
It's electronics
agile spindle
sure
By the way, some things on that page are titled Old Thing, change them to Thing (Old) like Bioreactor (Old)
edgy lagoon
Got it. Much better naming system.
What should I name the Base section?
"Base Parts"?
agile spindle
Seabases
edgy lagoon
Should I put the old Observatory under "Equipment" as it doesn't count as a "Seabase" part?
agile spindle
probably deployable
edgy lagoon
Should I make that an actual section or merge it with equipment?
agile spindle
thats a section
edgy lagoon
Got it
agile spindle
I forget, how was the old observatory built?
edgy lagoon
Mobile Vehicle Bay.
Is the Drill a deployable?
The old one that was scrapped early.
agile spindle
tool
edgy lagoon
Got it.
It says "The icon has since been removed..." does that mean there was an icon or that it's non existant?
(For the drill still)
agile spindle
means there was an icon
edgy lagoon
No, I would have never guessed.
edgy lagoon
Power Generator was a placeable item that powered seabeases.
Does that go under Deployable or Seabases?
agile spindle
seabases
agile spindle
what are they
edgy lagoon
Two are Tablets and one is a Unused Data Terminal.
agile spindle
sure, new section
edgy lagoon
Gottcha.
frail dragon
@edgy lagoon idk if it actually does have an icon... I said that as a replacement of when someone used ehh grammar and said something like âitâs picture was removed and it no worksâ
edgy lagoon
Good point.
frail dragon
So, is it worth mentioning the slime creature?
agile spindle
how do you know it's a creature
fluid lagoon
the what
frail dragon
I found this thing longgg ago
public class Slime : Creature
edgy lagoon
Is that it's only refrence?
agile spindle
yeah but in which section
edgy lagoon
Creatures.
frail dragon
All thatâs left of the slime is that empty script and the texture and prefab
It has no model so maybe it uses a basic sphere or something
agile spindle
the default is a cube
edgy lagoon
What is it's id?
edgy lagoon
Got it.
agile spindle
yes you can
frail dragon
Well you can use item but you canât use spawn
agile spindle
frail dragon
Afaik
edgy lagoon
Oh okay
edgy lagoon
No
frail dragon
Oh
Well I meant to say âIt can be spawned in with an item but canât be spawned as a creatureâ
edgy lagoon
Oh that I saw
It was before all mine and tueman's messages.
Here's what I wrote on it.
I'm going to go through and change all "Spawn" to "ID"
agile spindle
frail dragon
Maybe donât say public class for a slime creature...
edgy lagoon
What should I write instead?
agile spindle
The header should just be slime
edgy lagoon
Oh okay
agile spindle
and idk that that texture is for the creature
it looks more like a floor texture to me
frail dragon
Maybe say the Slime is referenced in the game files
edgy lagoon
agile spindle
is a reference
agile spindle
also its not it's
frail dragon
Yeah
edgy lagoon
Fixed that.
agile spindle
and just item not "inventory item"
edgy lagoon
Oh, okay.
frail dragon
Maybe change that to say âits ID existsâ and something about it being a creature
edgy lagoon
Can you give me the full sentence?
agile spindle
change "its ID existed" to "its ID exists"
edgy lagoon
Oh
frail dragon
And idk if this is important but because the Slimeâs script is empty but derives from Creature, it has a basic AI like that of a bladderfish or peeper
edgy lagoon
The Cyclops Modules on the page are still using number IDs.
Is there actual word IDs or just numbers?
edgy lagoon
How can I search this faster...
agile spindle
F3
frail dragon
Ctrl F
edgy lagoon
For things like The Entity Gallery and Shrinking Acid Mushrooms, should I make a "Gameplay" segment?
agile spindle
I'm not sure the shrinking mushroom should be on there
put that on the Acid Mushroom page
Entity Gallery can go under a "Commands" section
edgy lagoon
Commands, got it.
Though are you sure it shouldn't be on there? It technically is a removed feature.
agile spindle
yeah but it's about something we already have a page on
frail dragon
Was the sandbox command not discovered until it was broken?
frail dragon
Basically it loads another scene in the project
edgy lagoon
Should I link the page from here or just remove it entirely?
frail dragon
If you are familiar with unity
edgy lagoon
Okay, I'm going to upload the changes in a minute. Afterwards, I need to go do some stuff. Hopefully I'll have enough time to get back and make a gallery for the Entitry Gallery.
What update should I grab images from?
agile spindle
what dates do you have?
edgy lagoon
I can download more at any time by going through the process again, but at the moment I have these three:
Month-Day-Year
agile spindle
all of them have it
edgy lagoon
Yes but which should I use to get the best images?
agile spindle
probably the latest
edgy lagoon
That would be 4-30-15.
Unless I downloaded more recent updates from just before the Skittles update.
agile spindle
14 might have sandbox but dont count on it
agile spindle
teleports you to a testing world
agile spindle
you had it downloaded already?
agile spindle
well there you have it lee
frail dragon
maybe they renamed the scene or something
agile spindle
no they stopped using it
Klegran said it broke at some point and they didnt bother fixing it
frail dragon
Ok probably they abandoned the command but I have still seen videos of them testing stuff there
agile spindle
from when
edgy lagoon
I'll add the command to the list.
agile spindle
dont
frail dragon
why not?
agile spindle
we never had it functional
edgy lagoon
Oh okay
frail dragon
Neither was nanowires
edgy lagoon
Well I mean it's technically still cut, no?
agile spindle
yeah but you can still spawn nanowires
frail dragon
Oh
edgy lagoon
You can't spawn a white skyray or whatever they're called though.
That's considered cut.
frail dragon
White skyray?
agile spindle
is that on the page?
agile spindle
is there video evidence of that being what the sandbox command does
agile spindle
your DNA effects table is missing the last slot
frail dragon
I think the specimen analyzer image is incorrect
I think that is an older version of the model
frail dragon
Whereâs the grab crab?
@agile spindle I mean the box with the green thing on top
And also whatâs that green thing over the sand worm
@edgy lagoon this isnât a basalt chunk
edgy lagoon
I didn't add it.
As for the creatures, those are to be added.
I mentioned that in the update notes.
The DNA Effects table?
agile spindle
i fixed it
agile spindle
like what
edgy lagoon
I will get back to you when I remember the ones I thought of.
edgy lagoon
Wait
Wait a second
The grab crab actually does stuff
I didn't know it actually worked.
...Somewhat anyways.
agile spindle
according to the game code it does have a lot of functions
edgy lagoon
From what I had seen in videos, the said it did nothing. However, when I spawned in the Entity Gallery, the Grab Crab Home sent out a small Grab Crab. This Grab Crab started dragging things back to it's home, including a Peeper.
agile spindle
god whys their code written so weird
they have the class name before every single variable
or maybe dotpeek just reads it weird
apparently it has a sound?
agile spindle
no
i just put "falls under fair use"
So are we deleting Large Bird?
It's not on favro anymore
late island
anywhere?
fluid lagoon
well that and i wasn't looking at the favro recently
agile spindle
Also it doesnt look like a leviathan to me
late island
It isn't a leviathan
fluid lagoon
clown
late island
okay well listen I just copy/pasted the Ice Dragon page and put it up so shush
agile spindle
is it alex ries art?
fluid lagoon
yes
heady gulch
@frail dragon how many pinecones did you find?
alright so the scanner room doesnt pick up on the pinecones,
did they in past versions?
heady gulch
considering how abundant they were in the past (i checked it out, only the mushroom forest has them) I would expect them to have shown up like the other harvesting nodes
if they did in the past i think we can make the connection they are supposed to be removed content and they forgot to remove a few
agile spindle
But they arent cut content since you can still find them normally
edgy lagoon
Are they actually findable though?