I said cease
#📚wiki-discussion
paper flare
paper flare
cease
heady gulch
Yeah that Fireblade15 dude is just being a jerk about it.
heady gulch
Yeah.
stuck pawn
Bippity and I have both been trying to be nice about it but
reef mural
Exosuit
heady gulch
I looked at his edits, the unnecessary name change and the other unnecessary headers he added. It’s like he’s trying to make it into a government document.
paper flare
Shall I deal with this menace
stuck pawn
No
paper flare
Yes sir
stuck pawn
I'm already livid at SLS for getting involved don't you try getting involved
heady gulch
At this point I’m just watching to see how this turns out.
stuck pawn
He's missing our points
paper flare
He’s ignoring all our evidence
heady gulch
Wait why the change with the guidelines
stuck pawn
I see where he's coming from, the data entry does identify it as the abbreviation, but the game itself refers to it as Prawn Suit, not PRAWN Suit, and while he may be correct, we go on the basis of the game
paper flare
True
wheat plaza
tell him to complaint at the dev'
stuck pawn
Believe it or not he brought up a good point with the bolding, and Bip and I agreed to change it
paper flare
But why go into a hissy fit about it
heady gulch
Becaus people are stubborn and stupid
wheat plaza
cuno are your brain cells ok
stuck pawn
The one on SLS's wall?
heady gulch
How many comments and replies of his have been deleted?
Whenever I see the walls he’s talking on there are always deleted replies.
wheat plaza
np cuno
stuck pawn
Two were SLS's comments, one was Terran but I deleted that one because although I appreciate him helping this is admin business
Oh that
heady gulch
Only thing I did was remind him he was talking to administrators
stuck pawn
I want to delete it but it's probably not the best course of action
stuck pawn
He knows I'm an admin but not Bippity
paper flare
He’d probably repost saying the same thing along with “The admins deleted my other post” or something like that
stuck pawn
I don't understand why he didn't take it up with me and post on Bippity's wall
Yes exactly
stuck pawn
I'd like to give him less things to complain
stuck pawn
yes?
wheat plaza
where is gush, my love
wheat plaza
god bless 🙏
fluid lagoon
he uploaded a spoiler image to the arctic page
stuck pawn
I'd like it removed because of that but it'll just get re-added so I doubt I should bother
paper flare
Exactly
wheat plaza
🙏 bless
fluid lagoon
haha yes
stuck pawn
lmao
paper flare
Excuse my french but who’s that
stuck pawn
what
stuck pawn
I don't see your name on it
wet sand
i own the Furled Papyrus page
wheat plaza
thunder are you challenging me
wet sand
fear me
wheat plaza
Ching lmao even the maggots don't fear you
stuck pawn
gotem
viral nebula
ouch
stuck pawn
hcou
paper flare
I OWN THE DIALOGUE PAGE
wheat plaza
paper flare
Who are you?
stuck pawn
yes
cursive vigil
no
stuck pawn
maybe
paper flare
yes isn’t a valid answer try again
cursive vigil
yes
paper flare
thanks for agreeing with me have a nice day
cursive vigil
yes
paper flare
cease
cursive vigil
cheese
paper flare
i sayeth cease
wheat plaza
paper flare
repost
fallen dawn
Cheese is better
paper flare
lies
wheat plaza
fool this ain't a repost
paper flare
yes it is
wheat plaza
anyways offtopic
summer kindle
Fireblade is telling me about how the admins suck
paper flare
we saw
wet sand
sounds fun Bip
paper flare
Now he’s bringing it to the level where he’s just being salty
wheat plaza
Bippity do you still have that cool hammer I gave you a while ago
summer kindle
He doesn't seem to know I am an admin though
Incognito mode engaged
I am one with the common man
paper flare
Yep he doesn’t
summer kindle
I've asked him about the Alterra Banderos Aquaflurry Mk VII electrical motor
Whatever that is
stuck pawn
Is it actually in the data entry or?
paper flare
No
stuck pawn
I'm also surprised he didn't ask me since he's aware I'm an admin
paper flare
I checked a few hours ago
stuck pawn
and bureaucrat at that
summer kindle
I've never seen the name before but it seems like a real name
stuck pawn
Nothing yet
summer kindle
@stuck pawn I probably should change it so it actually says admin and bureaucrat again
stuck pawn
Sadly that might be for the better
summer kindle
Currently it just says Alterra Director and Alterra President
stuck pawn
It's a rename of admin and bureaucrat
summer kindle
Renamed admin and bureaucrat ranks
stuck pawn
But one guy just to come and ruin it for us
paper flare
Even I knew you were someone “important”
paper flare
It’s most likely somewhere on Fandom
Now will anyone answer my question about the sound files
paper flare
Then how’d they get onto the wiki
stuck pawn
Which ones are you looking for
paper flare
I just want to know how to obtain them
All the ones on Dialogue that don’t have a sound file
I need to make it complete
But the Welcome back to Alterra is priority
paper flare
@hollow patrol I pledge myself to your teachings
stuck pawn
Chris might know
paper flare
Who
stuck pawn
Chris is the holy saviour of the wiki
summer kindle
He's also dead
paper flare
That helps a lot! 😊
paper flare
Dang
late island
This should still be on the Arctic page. http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/File:BiosphereSheet_Arctic_page01.jpg
paper flare
Look on Dialogue
All sounds that aren’t there
Can you please get
Also can you teach me how
cinder kestrel
Fireblade15 feels the need to post on ThunderStar321's wall, BippityBop's wall, and my wall. Why have it so spread out, we can all follow just one thread . . .
Eventually that user will realize it is a bad idea to keep on changing "Prawn Suit" to "PRAWN Suit" before we let him. He is going to realize that, right?
blazing bronze
I mean it is an acronym, but the PDA refers to it as Prawn, indicating that the word as a word rather than an acronym is considered the official name
cinder kestrel
Exactly.
Even if they are right, it would be better to convince the admins than to defy them directly.
http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Page_protection
Oh, yeah. FANDOM is definitely saying your actions are hypocritical, Thunder and Bip. That is exactly what that page says--definitely not saying an edit war, such as the one going on, is a . . . valid reason . . . well. I guess Fireblade15 is wrong about something, Who knew?
stuck pawn
The problem is if I unprotect it he's just going to revert it back to the way he wants it
I'd rather not have it protected but I don't see any other alternatives
cinder kestrel
Blocking the user is not an option--I assume.
stuck pawn
I'd rather not
I can see their point in renaming it but it's the fact that they just won't leave it alone
cinder kestrel
And since we are not going to be promoting all the regular users to Content Moderators, the only option I can think of would be to let users comment their suggestions, or make a subpage where users can edit a copy of the article, then admins can copy it to the main page if it's good.
heady gulch
he is disrespecting you and bip. if he continues to persist and fight about it then i think you should block him for a week
cinder kestrel
I would at least threaten the ban hammer in one of the three threads.
stuck pawn
That's the thing
I'd like to close at least the one on your wall and move it to my wall or Bip's wall but I have a feeling he'll just use that against us somehow
heady gulch
If he is going to start using excuses like that to justify that you have a "grudge" against him than ban him. The wiki has no place for users with an attitude like that.
stuck pawn
Exactly
stuck pawn
Bippity and I have been very patient with him and been calm, but he's just making it harder and harder for us to not swing the ban hammer
cinder kestrel
Solution: I close mine.
heady gulch
he may have a valid point with the whole name thing, but the way he is coming across about it is not acceptable. this has changed from him being upset over a name to him deliberately trying to pick a fight.
cinder kestrel
"And who asked you, SLScool? This wasn't your conversation."
That closing reason might work out.
heady gulch
what? being harassed by a to-be-likely-banned user?
cinder kestrel
Using their words to support my action. And if they still attack me--well, even if they are not blocked quickly enough, I just know I don't have to care what they think.
fluid lagoon
at least fire was right about one thing
it was stupid for SLS to get involved
cinder kestrel
Why should I care? I am afraid I care too much: I closed a thread of my wall because of that user.
0.1% is too much.
heady gulch
that user isnt worth worrying about.
cinder kestrel
Let's change the topic, shall we . . .
fluid lagoon
i agree
viral nebula
woah
stuck pawn
gotem
stuck pawn
So...he’s adding false information to articles then?
stuck pawn
I don’t even know anymore
twilit bronze
what is this
twilit bronze
no
late island
If we're dealing with that kind of person then I'd rather we restrict that person than restrict the page as a whole for everyone.
prisma marsh
I meant is it time to break out the ban hammer for him?
stuck pawn
Since he did say he’d leave it alone I’ll unprotect the page
heady gulch
mkay
stuck pawn
Is that motor actually a thing in game though
heady gulch
i dunnno
fluid lagoon
i went to check yesterday but my power supply finally decided to die after 10 years right when i booted subnautica
cinder kestrel
http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:163724
Thunder, you could use the "undo" button and write in the edit summary. Unless you prefer getting these posts on your wall, of course.
summer kindle
Did you guys know that the Sea Dragons love mac'n cheese
It's time to add that to the wiki page like the creative person I am @stuck pawn
cinder kestrel
On the wiki, we are professional towards Fireblade15. Here, we are jerks about the user.
"Co-evolution gives me the fuzzies."
summer kindle
Also Will Smith is Alterra's president
cinder kestrel
Who?
stuck pawn
Terry Crews is Alterra's Spokesman
cinder kestrel
I searched them up. Wow.
summer kindle
I refuse to believe you did not know who Will Smith was.
cinder kestrel
"the Fresh price of bel-air"
What.
And no, I do not know who Will Smith was--or maybe is. Is he still alive?
summer kindle
Yes
stuck pawn
His acting career is dead but he's still alive
cinder kestrel
If I wasn't supposed to be playing Minecraft in order to construct my homework project, I would listen to Will Smith and see if I have heard him before.
summer kindle
People don't know him for music
That was an early part of his career before he really became famous
cinder kestrel
Then I could hear his voice in acting.
It's the fourth time I have used Minecraft for my English homework over the past two years.
I may be obsessed with using it.
stuck pawn
Obsessed or dedicated
summer kindle
How have you used Minecraft for English homework
wheat plaza
A legend
cinder kestrel
The first time, I was supposed to design the culture of a Utopia. I took some random person's city and added props to do it.
The second time, I had to make themes for The Giver and construct symbols. I made a video with that.
stuck pawn
The theoretical square root of a dirt block is contrast to the evolution of mankind which ties into the equation needed to tear a hole in the space time continuum
cinder kestrel
The third time (in the next grade), I--how is this #📚wiki-discussion ?--described some Minecraft server.
stuck pawn
Minecraft is Subnautica
paper flare
ffs t
ok banhammer should now be considered
Something needs to be done he’s ruining the wiki
cinder kestrel
I would threaten the ban hammer first.
I would have threatened it a while ago, though.
cinder kestrel
You could recommend blogs, Discussions, and article comments to Fireblade15. The user seemed to ignore me when I wrote about it, but maybe coming from you guys, the user could understand something.
heady gulch
yeah. the same person who is demanding correctness based off of some Government ledgers and what not for a name
is now asking for "creative freedoms." Tell him to make his own damned wiki if he wants to write up this kind of Toro Caca.
cinder kestrel
Just shut up, Fireblade. Stop acting like a dang 4 year old and start listening to what these nice guys are telling you. They know what they are doing.--Natetastic18
heady gulch
??? wait is that actually on the wiki?
paper flare
This guy
Shut down all access
Do not let him edit
We have to take action now
Being mature has not gotten us anywhere
We need to now do something
And I think you all know what
fluid lagoon
i think right now it's best to ignore the inane ramblings going on here
fluid lagoon
where do you think here is
fluid lagoon
you keep butting into a situation that you're not a part of and it's getting obnoxious
fallen dawn
Cuno and mesmer should just stay out of the more important stuff tbh
paper flare
- I maintain the wiki as well
- I can take part of a conversation
- Please stop disrupting what I say to ramble on about my flaws
fluid lagoon
cuno you have like less than 50 edits
leave it to the admins already
stuck pawn
I appreciate your enthusiasm but I'd rather Bippity and I have to deal with this
paper flare
Alright
stuck pawn
Thank you
fluid lagoon
paper flare
I respect him more than you
fluid lagoon
that's just dumb
paper flare
Say what you want
fluid lagoon
i don't want to have to DM a wiki keeper every time you won't behave
paper flare
What
fluid lagoon
what
paper flare
¯_(🤔)_/¯
viral nebula
?
fluid lagoon
fallen dawn
You didn't have to say "I respect him more than you"...
paper flare
viral nebula
.
fluid lagoon
your choices aren't going to get you very far
viral nebula
what road?
fallen dawn
It leads to a dead end where someone with a ban hammer awaits
paper flare
arctic cape
prisma marsh
Is it time for the ban hammer for fireblade15(makes you wonder what happened to fireblades 1 through 14)?
He did make a blog post about weapons in Subnautica on the wiki.
This may be a symptom of him being upset that Subnautica does not pander to his playing style, and that he wants it changed.
blazing bronze
I just can't understand people who can't handle a game not having high powered weaponry in it. If what you want most from a game is guns, play CoD or something
It's like complaining that the Mona Lisa is bad and needs changing just because your favourite colour isn't in it
prisma marsh
He does seem to be the sort of person who wants things to fit him perfectly, and who wants perfect freedom to change things to fit him.
The fact that subnautica does not fit him perfectly may be manifesting in his wiki edits, with his subconscious mind thinking that he can at least change a part of the game.
Therefore It would be a wise option to ban him, before he gets so mad at not being able to make the wiki(and therefore subnautica (in his subconscious mind)) fit him perfectly that he goes on a wiki-destroying rampage.
fluid lagoon
jesus christ recursion can you not
silk sierra
If he wants to play a game about shooting stuff, then just go tell him to get a copy of Halo: CE
quiet goblet
Halo ce ayy
paper flare
prisma marsh
I'll stop being a psychologist.
pearl yoke
Hmmm
prisma marsh
I'm an amutuer psychologist.
It's merely my desire to be helpful manifesting itself in my life on this discord.
paper flare
What
sullen temple
cinder kestrel
You don't agree that inventing a history for something makes it just that much more interesting?--Fireblade15
summer kindle
He just doesn't get it
No matter how many times you tell him a wiki page is for factual information or info based off of in game sources, he just comes back with how he's being creative
cinder kestrel
Hopefully my suggestion about Discussions, comments, and blogs will have an impact on him.
summer kindle
Based on how much impact everything has had thus far, I doubt it.
blazing bronze
Maybe we should invent a history for Fireblade? I'm sure he'd appreciate the efforts to make him more interesting!
cinder kestrel
I would rather he made his history in one of the three methods I described.
blazing bronze
Fireblade was born to a marmoset father and echidna mother...
fluid lagoon
tbh can we just ban fireblade already
not for what he's done but just so people will shut up about him in here
paper flare
yes but if we do that then everyone will be like “FINALLY!!” and then everyone will start talking about him again
potent plank
what
prisma marsh
fireblade15 is a wiki user.
He's kind of changing the wiki to suit his own idea of what subnautica should be like.
That's my personal psych evaluation.
prisma marsh
@twilit bronze http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/User:Fireblade15
paper flare
My favorite wikis: Subnautica Wiki
prisma marsh
He enjoys getting into arguments with bippity and co.
daring prism
that is some of the most stupid shit I've read in a long time.
does the whole uh... 'massacre on obraxis prime' thing not ring any bells?
paper flare
why is there these terrible fandom videos on these pages
I can't remove them
They literally have like a minute of random footage and then 10 seconds of related footage
lies
kamikaze lol
crashfish
lies
fluid lagoon
this is the wiki room not the "point out the google translations on the russian wiki" room
summer kindle
You know languages don't translate into each other perfectly
So you're going to get weird translations from google translate
acoustic gull
xD
bitter solar
Funny or not, they don't really go here since it's not a wiki issue. It's a general translating issue.
fluid lagoon
no it doesn't
bitter solar
But it's translations. It doesn't have anything to do with the actual wiki.
fluid lagoon
it's just going onto the russian wiki and being all like "lol look at these translations amirite guys"
fallen dawn
Its still the wiki
bitter solar
They aren't taking about the wiki itself, just Google's poor translating skills.
fluid lagoon
this is also about the english wiki
not the russian wiki
this isn't the russian SN server
which i think actually exists i don't remember
either way it's dumb and it takes up space in here
bitter solar
True.
summer kindle
NO-OP
cinder kestrel
No overpowered? Fine.
obtuse karma
So like...
When's Xbox getting the update that makes it so I have more than 14 FPS?
obtuse karma
Oh boy
I'm gonna be so excited.
But seriously cause like playing is slightly annoying
fickle aurora
on the fourth day, God received 15 FPS
paper flare
on the fifth day, you will receive ~15.1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 FPS
And @fluid lagoon the Devs never specified that it was the EN wiki
fluid lagoon
stop trying to play semantics
i'm sure if i went to any of the active wiki keepers they'd tell you to stop
paper flare
Bip didn't
fluid lagoon
nobody even asked him
fluid lagoon
i'd have to ask them because you don't listen to junior mods but you'll listen to people in orange
paper flare
*I don't listen to you
fluid lagoon
i'm a junior mod ya know
paper flare
I know
fluid lagoon
then listen
paper flare
But I only listen to people that actually use respect
fluid lagoon
it's almost like you want to get kicked eventually
paper flare
When that time comes i'll accept it for a good reason
fluid lagoon
paper flare
I have my beliefs
fluid lagoon
yes, and i have mine
and my belief is that this isn't how you get the respect that you apparently so dearly need
paper flare
All of a sudden you came out of nowhere and started hating me for no reason at all
And I don't understand what I did
cinder kestrel
"1) Don't be nasty, unkind or a troll. Use common sense & take issues to PM."
If you discuss this in PM, then #📚wiki-discussion can be used usefully.
fallen dawn
^
paper flare
Thanks
summer kindle
I mean I basically did tell you to stop
cinder kestrel
For example: the Russians are invading! Well, were.
I finished declassify--er, de-Russian-whatever the page, Bip.
paper flare
How Bip
summer kindle
This was just a subtle way to say "yeah can you stop now" without actually saying it
Gotta learn to overanalyse everything, Cuno
summer kindle
Nope
paper flare
What was that then
paper flare
Oh
cinder kestrel
"You know languages don't translate into each other perfectly
So you're going to get weird translations from google translate"
If that is a subtle hint to stop, I should really learn life . . .
paper flare
Okay
cinder kestrel
Anyway, I was as confused as Cuno on "haha yes" thing.
paper flare
I'm sorry if I didn't understand that
summer kindle
Yes I'm not surprised.
normal quiver
@paper flare knock it off.
Listen to Vivian
She asked you reasonably to stop and you gave her attitude
If that's how you're going to treat the Jr mods you don't need to be here
Don't be intentionally difficult
summer kindle
I don't want to be referred to as the jr mod
cinder kestrel
If you dislike me, you can just say it outright.
summer kindle
That's good
fluid lagoon
Cuno - Today at 5:00 PM
*I don't listen to you
summer kindle
Yay
paper flare
You got me there
But I see where you're going
I'll try to be more respectful to you then
In return please do the same
summer kindle
Not really
proper saffron
silk sierra
it's resphekt smh
obtuse karma
So like, is it supposed to take 2 1/2 - 3 minutes to load your game?
plush plover
yes most of the time
paper flare
For me yeah
bitter solar
Mine takes about five. Anywho, let's leave this chat. It's for the wiki, which no one is really discussing.
prisma marsh
I've noticed in the sea emperor juveniles page, the future tense is used a lot, for example: the babies will disperse and spread to five
Should that be changed to the present tense?
prisma marsh
I thought they did.
blazing bronze
Yeah they do, you can find them out near the edges of the map
prisma marsh
So should that be changed to present tense then?
scenic thistle
Yup
naive thistle
Ain't the creepvine used for fiber mesh
summer kindle
No, Lava Larry
wet sand
oh
summer kindle
Terran removed what he added because the picture is ancient, he just added it back right after
Yeah I removed what he added from Oculus then he added it back
summer kindle
I'm promoting you to admin
fickle aurora
uh
wheat plaza
no
summer kindle
👌
wheat plaza
no
stuck pawn
@summer kindle What are these sources 🤔
summer kindle
The Globgogabgalab
fluid lagoon
he is the yeast of thoughts and mind
fickle aurora
seems legit
wheat plaza
idk and idc
summer kindle
Why are you having an existential crisis
fickle aurora
existential cross
wheat plaza
✝
stuck pawn
If you were we'd say something
wheat plaza
begone
stuck pawn
Just edit and if it's not useful or whatever we'll let you know in one way or another
summer kindle
Lava Larry also just created this
I'm gonna leave this a while to see where he was going with this
fluid lagoon
hello
paper flare
hello there
stuck pawn
would you like me to revive it
summer kindle
Well that's pointless now because if he was mid edit it won't work
You ruined EVERYTHING
stuck pawn
I wonder who
fluid lagoon
me
stuck pawn
Why are you so hard on yourself
summer kindle
I mean I was actually talking about you, Thunder, no offence.
stuck pawn
I figured as much
fluid lagoon
summer kindle
The ol' Reaper screenshot controversy of whenever that happened
stuck pawn
I'm hoping to 1070 ti relatively soon so that won't be a problem anymore
I don't remember that
Was Leon around for that or am I thinking of something different
summer kindle
Leon was around
Basically you added a screenshot to the Reaper page of it grabbing a Seamoth from the inside and it was on lowest graphics quality and then you got pretty annoyed when Leon removed it due to the graphics quality.
stuck pawn
Yeah that was due to my own arrogance for the most part
summer kindle
I'm on a quest to find the image
summer kindle
Probably
wheat plaza
Time to replace them
short forum
wet sand
late island
Why was the image of the arctic biome on the planet removed from the Arctic Biome page even though the page says that you can see it during the ending?
stuck pawn
Do you want it added back?
late island
I'd say either add it back or take out the part about it being seen from space.
summer kindle
Wasn't the current one from the arctic doc
stuck pawn
It is
I removed it because lots of people are going to be viewing the page and the infobox image would be a huge spoiler
summer kindle
Well if it's from the arctic doc then it wasn't even made by developers
paper flare
The featured article hasn't ever changed
wheat plaza
Fool
cinder kestrel
http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Grub_Basket?diff=prev&oldid=273906
We removing bolding of the name throughout the whole article?
blazing bronze
Typical wiki style is that only the first mention is bold, I would imagine the Subnautica wiki is the same
cinder kestrel
It was that every instance ought to be bolded. Maybe that is changing.
cinder kestrel
Any admin/non-existent Discussions Moderator ever going to moderate Discussions?
Or do you wait for me to tell you that the guidelines are still the default?
summer kindle
I forget that discussions exists on a daily basis
blazing bronze
Real men use article talk pages
summer kindle
A lot of discussion posts have been made since I last looked at it
cinder kestrel
I feel like Discussions also hosts a lot of under-13 users--that seems to be the case at the Minecraft Wiki discussions, at least.
blazing bronze
Never liked the more social-network-y changes that wikia made. It had pretty much exactly the effect that it was blatantly obvious would happen
cinder kestrel
Thunder was the one to approve of its integration into the wiki, although it would be inevitable in the end.
blazing bronze
Hey, is there any list of like... wiki cleanup project areas? I wouldn't mind helping to bring some things up to speed but I wouldn't be sure where to start. Like, what's up to date and what's still behind
cinder kestrel
Special:Community
Have to check it, though.
Okay, http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Special%3ACommunity may work for you.
Since "Main/To-Do List" was deleted.
blazing bronze
Nice, will probably check it out soon and see if there's any area I feel I can muck in on 👍
steep canopy
Guys, is there or is there not a diamond deposit, as according to http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Diamond there are large deposits, yet if you go to http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Large_Resource_Deposits they are not listed, if this is an error can it be fixed?
prisma marsh
What about now?
fluid lagoon
stop
prisma marsh
Sorry.
sterile pivot
@steep canopy I'm faily certain as of this time that diamonds do not appear in large deposits, but you can find them in shale outcrops and in some places just stuck to the walls like some sort of good crystal vibrations hippy has come through set up shop then proceeded to totally forget they owned one.
blazing bronze
Add me to the pile of people who've never seen a diamond deposit. Though that doesn't really prove there aren't any, I think we can be pretty sure until someone actually finds one
quick apex
https:// www. youtube .com/watch?v=-0f-KEw6Exs 13:09 Proof of a Diamond deposit
just reattach the link together
quick apex
makes sense
fallow pelican
If you guys need high res shots, check out here https://sketchfab.com/fox3d . Not in game but it will give you a lot of good angles.
sterile pivot
I actually can't find any information regarding diamond deposits being removed, it's something that someone will have ti check the patch notes for.
prisma marsh
@summer kindle there's a giant issue with the wiki
People can edit other people's user pages.
All they have to do is press on the "Edit profile" button on the other user's profile page.
I can edit his profile page, by pressing the edit profile button.
Actually
You can only edit other people's profiles if they haven't gotten the booting up the PDA badge.
Just realized that.
fluid lagoon
tell us something we don't know
there's a guideline rule against editing the profiles of others anyway so it's not an issue
summer kindle
Are you sure?
I was fairly certain you could edit anyone's page
Can you edit this page
blazing bronze
User pages aren't inherently special, so as far as I know it's only protection and semi-protection that stops other people editing it, unless wikia added something since I last looked, which is always possible because I've not been very active on wikis for a while now
stuck pawn
what happened to SphericalCircle anyways
fluid lagoon
he died
stuck pawn
good
fluid lagoon
that eden person died too
tawdry atlas
rip
paper flare
oof
stuck pawn
Vee replaced Eden
stuck pawn
Because he's protected probably
fluid lagoon
@fluid lagoon
paper flare
You have become more powerful than any SN Balancer before you
summer kindle
Except I have the ability to kick her but she doesn't have the ability to kick me
So who really wins
@Recursion#7597 You know "bushs" is not the plural of bush?
stuck pawn
bushs
prisma marsh
Ah
Sorry
I'm trying to make all pages follow a roughly similar format.
For example, some pages went: "The cave bush is something or other", others went: "Cave bushes are something or other".
I'm trying to change them all to "Cave bushes are something or other".
Is that ok?
Or have I completely messed up life again?
stuck pawn
Why do you ask if your edits are okay
prisma marsh
I'm insecure.
fluid lagoon
we don't have high expectations for somebody named "the literal seadragon" don't u worry
prisma marsh
I was going to change that.
But it would lead to too many out-of-context things.
I made that username when I was very young and foolish.
prisma marsh
Yes.
fluid lagoon
you joined last year
prisma marsh
Yes.
fluid lagoon
that's not that long ago
fluid lagoon
are you just foolish 🤔
stuck pawn
If you're so unsure about your edits what you could do is go around on pages an unbold the article names like Bippity and I have been doing
prisma marsh
Next year, I shall look upon my current self, and say that my current self was young and foolish.
And why are you unbolding article names?
stuck pawn
Because we are
prisma marsh
Ok.
stuck pawn
Save for the first paragraph it's in
prisma marsh
BTW, you know how some wiki pages don't have proper backgrounds?
stuck pawn
huh
prisma marsh
Like they don't have a dedicated background which is only for that page?
Could I run a few pictures past you for backgrounds?
stuck pawn
Oh
You'll probably have to do that with Bippity, he's the one who added the backgrounds to them
prisma marsh
I'll ask him when he's next on.
prisma marsh
I only bolded the mention in the first paragraph
I thought I was meant to do that
I unbolded the sea dragon leviathan
stuck pawn
wait no you did it right on the SDL
prisma marsh
I thought I also did it right on the other one.
I bolded the first mention of the plant.
fluid lagoon
@prisma marsh
stuck pawn
@prisma marsh
fluid lagoon
you are weak like little baby
stuck pawn
Git gud Bip
summer kindle
Not every page has a relevant background that can be used
Not everything has concept art
Some concept art doesn't fit the screen correctly
And I don't want to just put random backgrounds on every page because it makes them load a little slower
summer kindle
I will find him
stuck pawn
Can I ban him
summer kindle
no
paper flare
can I address that
paper flare
You'll see
I'm making a message now
Just tell me if it's ok
k done
I think I shut him up
where tf did this come from
He just posted this on my wall
save me PLEASE
@anyone
cinder kestrel
Fireblade15 is, for once, not being as annoying as normal.
Yeah, I will respond for you.
cinder kestrel
Okay.
I assume you know the answer to the second paragraph.
No, because Fireblade removed it.
blazing bronze
Quick, add multiplayer
paper flare
k lemme discuss it with my good buddy obraxis
hopefully I shut him up for good
@SLScool#1785 I see
ey
no
cinder kestrel
"And "armored" is in the vehicle's in-game description but missing from the designation, so it's not incorrect."
What's the correct description? Anybody have two minutes to find out?
paper flare
Don't tell him to go to the discord
stuck pawn
I'll check that description in just a moment
You also just gave him the link to the discord u doof
cinder kestrel
If the user keeps up at the same . . . level of kindness, won't the user get banned quickly from the Discord?
Or am I completely off about what it takes to be banned here?
cinder kestrel
And besides, a comment will not notify the user in notifications, whereas a thread will.
If he knows what?
cinder kestrel
You asking 'what if he comes on the Discord and does not appear as rude?'?
stuck pawn
Pressure Re-Active Waterproof Nano Suit is the description
wet sand
if fireblade comes to the Discord im not holding back 😤
cinder kestrel
You will hold back as much as #sn-discord-rules tells you to.
Other than that, you are free.
paper flare
Schedule of Fireblade15 on the Discord.
Joins
Sees #📚wiki-discussion
Comes in
Says hi
Everyone hates
He starts whining about his Pressure Reactive stuff
Banned
Hopefully
wet sand
lemme review the discord rules before he hypothetically joins
really
@narrow laurel delet this
its in #off-topic as well
scenic thistle
"Apparently missing features" what
Multiplayer is not a missing feature. It was planned at the beginning, but they decided against it.
inner badger
blazing bronze
Missing feature: some people's brains
scenic thistle
^^^
prisma marsh
Bippity, what I meant was I could get some photos from subnautica, and run them past you for backgrounds.
Also @paper flare , being accused of being a dev isn't so bad.
I've been accused of being a food chain breaker.
late island
https://abiogenisis.deviantart.com/journal/Subnautica-734886534 Should we mention him on the wiki now that we know this?
wheat plaza
don't you think we should wait until we have some art piece or something ?
well you could add that he will be drawing some stuff I guess
late island
Would probably make sense to have one.
heady gulch
@Cuno#3435 being accused of being a dev just gives you an excuse to screw around with them
summer kindle
We have no info on Pat Presley's section
prisma marsh
@paper flare yeah, mess around with him and ask him what he wants.
Tell him the devs are thinking of removing the knife.
Also tell him that the devs are considering giving all the creatures giant bazookas and AK-47s and removing the stasis rifle.
blazing bronze
Changelog: stasis rifle reworked. Now affects the user only
fluid lagoon
how about we don't act stupid with fireblade ok thanks
viral nebula
😩
prisma marsh
Be the dev.
paper flare
Grant me the rank of Dev
prisma marsh
I'm sure Oby will do that.
fluid lagoon
cease these shenanigans
tawdry atlas
Oby won.
paper flare
i shall not be commanded by thy fool
cinder kestrel
Jamintheinfinite says "Someone awake the bot"
What might my bot be wanted for?
cosmic galleon
XD
cinder kestrel
We had it confirmed sometime ago. Forget what the confirmation was.
But here's a playtester to explain.
Mayb.e
wheat plaza
you have my verification
scenic thistle
Unlikely, I know nothing about probability of the amount of Kyanite to come from a large node
cinder kestrel
It involved an exponent.
blazing bronze
As much as I love maths I kind of feel like that one is trivia for trivia's sake even if it's true, it really doesn't add anything
cosmic galleon
Im sorry who voices the videos on the subnaticua wiki
paper flare
I need proof
wheat plaza
no you don't
paper flare
Yes I do
wheat plaza
then have fun scrolling up
wheat plaza
too bad
blazing bronze
I mean what do we do with the information that there's a 4.7x10^-9 chance of getting that much from one node other than sit there and go "yep that sure is a small number"
paper flare
huh
cinder kestrel
Search "kyanite 22" you should get some good stuff.
blazing bronze
No one can process that number as a probability, it's just "really small"
cinder kestrel
"You'd have to get a 17.5% chance 11 times in a row, if my math is correct that's 0.000000471431432% chance"
cinder kestrel
.175^1 for 11 times in a row, 17.5^2 for 12 . . .
blazing bronze
I mean as I say I'm exactly the kind of guy who would work that number out for my own interest, but I don't think there's much point in it being on the wiki
cinder kestrel
Wait, wouldn't it be .175^12 chance?
blazing bronze
In fact we've just highlighted the fact that what isn't on the article is... the chances per piece, 17.5%
paper flare
good thing I brought this up then
blazing bronze
Okay whatever the odds are, I don't know, that's kind of my point 😛
paper flare
ye sls
hollow patrol
I don't even remember if I did that right or not but I do remember it had like a 35% chance per try
There's a gist all the values
cinder kestrel
35% chance per try? That makes no sense . . .
blazing bronze
That sounds high yeah
paper flare
0.35
hollow patrol
I don't know if it's changed, but average should be 0-6
paper flare
4-8
hollow patrol
Yes that is that average but just by removing by possible values
cinder kestrel
Okay, so the 0.000000471431432% math seems inaccurate.
If it's 35% chance per try, then it can't be--can it?
hollow patrol
It's probably lower, it was like 12 at night when I wrote that
blazing bronze
"minResources = 1 maxResources = 3"
What does this mean because it definitely can't mean that's the number you get per attempt
cinder kestrel
Here comes Bip to explain.
blazing bronze
Seeing as you never get more than one at once and you can get none from an attempt
paper flare
BippityGlobglogabgalab
prisma marsh
Ol' bippo
summer kindle
Sorcerer is right actually, that doesn't make sense
blazing bronze
"DrillableMercury" okay now I know this data can't be counted on to be up to date lol
hollow patrol
It's fine, I output all the drillables even if they never made it into the game
summer kindle
How can the min chance of each section be 1 if the minimum you can get from a whole node is 0
hollow patrol
Basically once a chance is calculated, it then generates either 1 or 2
So if your chance say is a random number 1-100 and it's 0.35 aka less than 35 percent, if every roll is above 35 percent it is always 0
If it always rolls below 35 then it will always random pick 1 or 2
summer kindle
I see
paper flare
what have i done
blazing bronze
So overall with a large node there's a 17.5% chance of getting 1 and a 17.5% chance of getting 2?
prisma marsh
A very bad thing indeed.
paper flare
what
cinder kestrel
So 17.5% for one. That, to the power 11? For the chance of 22?
prisma marsh
those are bad odds.
hollow patrol
Yep I think so
cinder kestrel
Now, that makes a lot more sense than "17.5% chance 11 times in a row."
paper flare
who would need that much kyanite from a deposit anyway
prisma marsh
Me
blazing bronze
So there's essentially a 35% chance of getting 1.5 on average, which assuming binomial distribution means you can expect 3.85 kyanite per large node on average?
summer kindle
That seems about correct
blazing bronze
squints at his maths. Been too long since he did statistics and it was never his favourite module
summer kindle
4-5 is the norm I think
blazing bronze
But yeah that sounds about right
summer kindle
Wait so what is the percentage chance to get 22
cinder kestrel
I did (.35% of 1.5 is an average yield of 0.525, which, times 11, is 5.775) What'd I do wrong?
blazing bronze
0.175^11 = 4.7e-9
cinder kestrel
(35% times 1.5 = .525)
blazing bronze
So the wiki trivia is correct but still pointless because no one can actually visualise that small a probability meaningfully lol
cinder kestrel
Where'd I goof up on the average per node?
I do agree with Sorceror Nobody on the statistic.
blazing bronze
Replace it with the expected average and we have something useful on there
cinder kestrel
Sorceror, how'd you get 3.85 kyanite on average per large node?
cinder kestrel
Something about wanting me to use my bot.
summer kindle
Also Simon had no relation to the edit so I don't know why he made it the edit description
cinder kestrel
At least in another edit summary of the user's.
blazing bronze
Probably by doing something wrong, I think I missed the 1.5 out somewhere. Binomial distribution, chance of successful trial p, number of trials n, mean is np = 0.35 * 11 = 3.85... yeah I forgot to then multiply by 1.5 so the average would be 5.775
Assuming binomial distribution which is by no means a given
Told you I was squinting at my maths in suspicion
paper flare
what have I done
cinder kestrel
I had no idea what binomial distribution is, but it looks like I have been doing it for some time.
I do know what binomials are, though.
summer kindle
The amount of maths I've completely forgotten how to do since I left secondary school is not ok
paper flare
^
blazing bronze
I did a physics degree and I can agree with that sentiment
Statistics in particular I find both interesting and abhorrent
But yeah tldr if binomial applies then the average per small node is 3.15 and the average per large node is 5.775, which is useful information compared to the vanishingly small odds of 22 from a large node 😛
Tells you roughly how many nodes you're gonna need to go looking for
(though the sensible player just harvests a bunch at once anyway lol)
cinder kestrel
.175^11
summer kindle
So this was a whole conversation for nothing
cinder kestrel
212,119,924.78 nodes, on average, needed to get 22 from a single node.
blazing bronze
Well the debate was more about "this number may be true but it's not useful information to anyone, let's calculate something more useful"
paper flare
I don't know
summer kindle
or just really good luck
summer kindle
@cinder kestrel There's no mod for the Atlas is there?
It's just a model right now
cinder kestrel
People have made mods, haven't they?
Oh course, I search this up, and https://www.google.com/search?q=atlas+mod+subnautica tells me nobody has made an actual mod. Wow.
Or does it say there is an actual mod? I don't know, I don't care, I can be playing BedWars on Hypixel, Minecraft.
paper flare
can someone save me
cinder kestrel
Good day, Cuno.
paper flare
oh uh
obtuse trench
There is no mod for the Atlas
paper flare
good day
summer kindle
I'm going to close that thread once he responds