#📚wiki-discussion
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@summer kindle Can you delete Navbox:Coral?
And the Ghost Ray is named Ghostray. Can you change the Title of this site? I will change the text of this site and the other sites
Fire ray is a development name, it's real ingame name is Crimson Ray. Is it the red ghost ray?
the ingame name is Crimson Ray? how'd you find out?
@cursive vigil In english.json, PDA entry said it was called Fire Ray.
Crimson Ray
That's the translation website. All the same entrys like in english.json
@cursive vigil I'm not an admin, so I can't delete it.
I've seen you asking though, not sure why it hasn't been deleted yet.
Thanks
You can rename pages yourself @cursive vigil , click the drop down button on the "Edit Page"
@indigo loom I didn't know this. Thank you :)
I think this can be deleted now. I will change everything on the other pages now http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Ghost_Ray?redirect=no
Its ok, its Redirected to the new name.
@summer kindle It is your mistake. https://gyazo.com/a5e8493a03f374eeeb8bfcad8ea06d41
Ok?
-_-
They're shown as green, what else would I think?
Biosence make it green.
biosence... I CAN'T Speel!
spell*
Bioluminescence
Got it
They make mistake.
It is likely Bioluminescence still visiblle in day.
it should to be disabled
You can see green eye http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/File:Reaper_Leviathan_(5).gif
error...
Seems odd
ERROR again
The eyes have been green since they were first implemented from what I remember
but it was a huuuuuge oversight I think
One subnautica fan love subnautica but still complain about reaper leviathan's eye? Huh?
I added bug on reaper leviathan of that.
Its early access. Its ok, I've undone it.
Someone should create post of it https://gyazo.com/0d7d2f51fddd67ed467d76c3e1a4b640
It is skeletion on lost river
and yes, that was frykas post that.
I lost of words...
isn't the grand leviathan just another name for the sea emperor
It is
Frykas read a lot of leaked story
@wheat plaza u read alot of story?
He will said yes.
Ik, just asking him
Less confused = https://gyazo.com/e538d5ab398d92c1f73b6b5809fb2c43
fishrus called it a dinosaur what
xD
Fishrus called it a dinosaur because they die before precursor arrived.
@fluid lagoon I click nice work every you edit
Got it.
fishrus is an idiot
im back
i shall now go on the wiki spree
first it was no mans sky modding
now subnautica
Also should there be a page on each degasi member?
like bart paul and madia?
nah we got the Degasi page for that
what title are ya tryin' to edit
"Edit" (Drop Down menu) > Rename
Do we have a Story page?
we'd have to wait until the story is finalized to make a story page
i suppose so
@lapis drum @fluid lagoon What about the Data Download and Dialogue page?
Nah not important enough
@stuck pawn Yeah, the grand leviathan is the name of the skeleton, sorry if i'm not really understable x)
No, I'm fairly sure that's a name for the Sea Emperor.
Well, in the leak, it said " The grand leviathan is dead before the precursor came on the planet "
I'm not sure if the sentence is the same than what I read.
Mmmh.
Oh, well, thanks bip'.
?
Reasons
Mokay.
I don't even know your friend dude.
the reefbacks are talking shit because they wanted to be the largest passive fauna
lol, definetely
Harassment?
He just comment something nonsense sometimes.
Underage-ness?
RIP scrapped submarine concept art
read: scrapped
I wish nods could work
They'll probably become bigger after 1.0 release.
Nah
I take it you were trying to say mods?
@tough rampart https://gyazo.com/17020a3718fff60fd3418f8417c19602 this isn't exactly something we would put on the wiki
Wait was the whole story doc leak not supposed to happen?
Wait, what?
@lapis drum, there was a doc file accidently leaked by the devs few days ago.
Can I see it pls?
Okay...so we're not supposed to have it?
that was the intention, yeah
What was the intention?
Same
not for us to see
oh
but it was leak and have been saved by many.
Is it the file bippity was quoting about 6 hours ago?
yeah
Have you guys been spreading it like a virus?
it all started at sub chat and everyone linked it.
Are you guys keeping the information off the wiki?
Link for leak?
till the doc blocked from public viewing.
Cory Strader notice leak OH OH OH OH OH D^%# IT!
Who has it saved?
Honestly, I did.
Can I see it?
I can't upload it, sorry.
Have the devs said anything about it yet?
well okay then
Is it biggest leak?
kinda disappointed that bippity is still spreading the info from it
it spread like wildfire
Cause there was one post on the forums about it
This was publicly viewable out of game
Everyone keeping read trello lol
I came to realized that, its uncontrollable when that kind of things happen
The amount of accidental leaks that've happened for Subnautica is kinda large
Information control is important, I hope they strengthen up those stuff.
Look like subnautica devopler is not very responibility about careful making sure everything is perfect
.>
.>
at this point, what is there to leak anymore anyway
They make mistakes, everyone makes mistakes
Yeah, they revealed almost everything, we just got more precision.
That is right.
bobthebuilder cheat should let you immediately build the spaceship @desert rivethunelius
Someone should test that
nah
They make pretty huge mistakes tbh
considering the rocket isn't visible in general it isn't worth testing
k
where there's a lot of water there's gonna be a lot of leaks
considering how well the devs have stuck to the concept art, i'll just assume the prison in-game will look exactly like its concept art
So! Looks like I have become part of the sample population who has had their Cyclops disappear upon Reloading my save. I was wondering if anyone had any more recent hard data on steps to avoid your Cyclops disappearing. (a few google queries mention changing the name of the save slot from 0000 to 0002 or 0003; some suggest deleting slot0000 and renaming the save that lost its cyclops to slot0000) these sound like analogies to old-waves tales.
Stop copy and paste
Keep it in Sub-chat
That was a single copy and paste, but I wont do it again for either subnautica-chat or subnautica-wiki
I thought it was more appropriate here, my apologies
nah
the character in my profile picture is blind
why can I, a doge, type?
lol is that what you call it
@lapis drum what are u referrin to
typing
@wheat plaza I forget that lol
Don't worry.
it should be minor edit, lol
@wheat plaza What is name templete of "I dunno..."
PageUncited
Thanks
put {{PageUncited}} at the top of the page
@wispy loom what is uncited on the equipment page?
" Lab Equipement "
Don't have a lot of information does not mean there is think wich as no source.
That's not what that is used for.
Those abandoned seabases pages needs some scholar work.
They do
The PageUncited template is for pages that lack citations
We don't have a stub template cause some pages just don't have much in game info
k
yo guys i forgot how to change the title of a page
Rename.
Click on the little arrow next to the edit button @fluid lagoon
How to bold on gallery?
'''
""Hey""
'''Word'''
Oh ok nvm
Too much edit appeared
huh?
Can anyone tell me which data downloads found in each Degasi base?
i could go look for them but i'm sure there's an easier way to find out
Doesn't seem to be.
not really
hail cory
@fluid lagoon Is it okay? https://gyazo.com/d7085fcbfd9f6f291664aef518aba353
you don't need to bold every same word in a single page
Regarding the leaks, we have a very very complicated process. We have like 90% of our development open to the public, which makes it very hard to keep things we do want hidden, from accidentally going out to the public. We have lots of developers working on lots of different tasks, in different branches. Sometimes stuff from someone's branch that wasn't supposed to go out gets merged in accidentally to the main branch. Sometimes a Fox3d guy forgets to lock a sketchfab file when uploading. In the case of the leaked story document recently, the doc itself was not made publicly accessible, but the link was accidentally put into a trello card with all the other story task stuff, for other developers to see, forgetting that it could be publicly seen as well
So, yes, mistakes are bound to happen.
I don't particularly appreciate the comments in here that indicate we are careless, or whatever
@atomic stirrup Don't worry, everyone make mistake.
Open development seems like a difficult thing to manage...
yes, very much so
I'm not saying you're careless, but the amount you guys seem to value secretism about the story isn't apparent considering the amount of leaks
it certainly makes the game much better, because we have a lot of feedback throughout the whole development process. But it also is hard to hold anything back as a surprise, or keep people from getting burnt out on the game before it's released
Yeah, the bug reporting and feedback it allows seems very useful.
The team isn't in total agreement as to the extent we should be holding things back, which is part of the problem
@summer kindle Jelly Shroom Caves - Degasi Voice Log #4, #5, #6 - Paul Torgal's Log #2 - Bart Torgal's Log #1, #2 - Marguerit Maida's Log
because, we do need to put the stuff out there to get it tested up well enough that it won't be broken and buggy when released
Not sure what you think we should be doing better, tueman, since you seem to think we are not being careful. But it is extremely difficult to keep thing secret without putting in a lot of time and energy to hold things back in a way that doesn't also slow down and impede the internal development
anyway, at the end of the day, it isn't THAT serious that this stuff gets leaked.
@summer kindle Floater Island - Degasi Voice Log #1, #2, #3 - Paul Torgal's Log #1 - Bart Torgal's Log #3
Quite a good chunk of the leaked stuff was known already.
we appreciate it when people try to keep some of the stuff from spreading too far, but the amount of players who are active in Discord and on the forums, and checking our trello and playing in the experimental version of the game is still a very small % compared to the overall playerbase
there's still many people who have no idea what is going into an upcoming update, until it actually drops
tueman, the entire story was going to be known about before 1.0, anyway
In the last update video on YouTube I saw someone asking if there was going to be a story.
Everyone really want know what it upcoming update.
I think saying something was going to be known in the future anyway is a bad excuse
because we need to have this stuff in the game, as I said earlier, in order to get it tested and polished up for 1.0
I think trying to be a know it all about game development is obnoxious. So there's that
@summer kindle Deep Grand Reef - Degasi Voice Log #7, #8, #9 - Paul Torgal's Log #3
👌
Well, I guess a benefit to having the story info leaked is that people will know what to do and bug reporting will happen quicker.
@fluid lagoon 👌🏻
Is wikia best?
Well, I guess I'm just confused about what extent you guys really are trying to keep the story secret till it doesn't need to be
There was going to be a barebones story implemented before 1.0 anyway.
Not sure how long until that's due
Yes, exactly what Bippity says. The main debate has just been whether or not we hold any elements back until 1.0 or not. But generally we have to implement everything before 1.0
otherwise we face the potential of a day one release bug fest with the held back content
and, again, you guys are not necessarily representative of the playerbase as a whole. If you guys want to hang out in here, jump on every concept image or sketchfab or story element that becomes public, and spoil it for yourselves, cool. You guys are excited and enthusiastic about all the develepments
but, the majority of the players still have no idea that story stuff is even out there
and haven't seen the precursor stuff yet
only 10% of players are playing on experimental
That's lower than I thought.
@atomic stirrup Why we can't see a precursor who build precursor base? Was it made by warper or not? I thought warper was part of defusing precusor base.
Well, I apologize for implicating that you guys are careless/lazy
Warpers were created by the precursors
precursors won't be ingame bc no NPCs or whatever the reason was
Everyone have no idea what precursor look like (not precursor base) expect devopler team subnautica.
@wispy loom No, we don't.
I edit every one minute, lol
hax
I just do bolding text
bolding text is very serious business.
Don't tell me that I copied @fluid lagoon .
@indigo loom What is <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>?
if you see those, replace it with {{Clear}}
Okay, what it do?
huh?
yes
lmao
lmao
oaml
ypSeMllaCyehT
Best meme name ever.
i was gonna spell my extended name backwards but then i realized i don't have the will to spell out "Eden Myztri Caecus Culinary Ambiguity 413 Caecus" backwards
you are a godsend
sure
I love it when you come inside me - Seamoth
Add it to seamoth post. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I go to sleep, see yah chat !
nu
happens every day
@onyx flower Can you make a @wispy loom a wiki keeper?
k
I should make a new one 'Wiki-Leaker'
Wait, what?
sits with Obraxis
lel
I will be the wiki leaker if you want ;)
k
;---------- )
WikiLeaks: Subnautical Edition
Everybody has those days
Everyone knows what I am talking about
Everyone gets that way
Nobody's perfect! You live and you learn it! Everybody makes mistakes!
I do great job make those picture http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/subnautica/images/f/fc/Precursor_GUN_Base.png/revision/latest?cb=20160910215912
Lol, i just recited hannah montana
I need some relax
nu
@summer kindle Why?
@indigo loom Good news
@summer kindle I have good news
@stuck pawn I have good news!
@wispy loom what is it?
I am wiki keeper now
crap
lol
Yes you have been for a while.
so is ChrisFo one yet?
dafuq
I noticed he make fewer mistake
tru
I made 2370 edits in 94 days.
HOLY
Bippity WILL be blocked at day 99
XD
Leon is right
ytippiB
?seY
.esuver evol I
on
Thunderstar
Revuse?
wot
IM STRAIGHT THANK YOU
NP
so is spaghetti until you boil it in scalding hot water
OH MY GOD
Wiki-keeper in nutshell.
No one make edit for 1 hour
@summer kindle You ruined it
rip
@wispy loom So we're friends now?
Yes
hai friend
Hi friend
@stuck pawn I've wrote tabber css, its ok to use now.
great! thanks man! i'll try it later!
hai
Hai
Hi
i'm 1,000th in command
I'm nothing in command
Alice is number 0, our true leader ;)
Alice is always angry !
You guys thought he should be unbanned and you didn't say anything?
hail tueman
yes
I'm 1337th in command...
its imo
I have never supported the descision for Leon's ban. He just asked me not to speak up for him in case I got in trouble or something
Look, no offense to Leon, he said "Im lazy" while back. I'm not sure if he realized what I've done to the wiki. But I take no grudges, yet I'm still helping out if he needs anything.
@indigo loom Seem right.
this drama is already died out in me during Myspace era.
8 wiki keepers is online. That is a lot.
lmao
I am in 4th commands
naw
accurate
where has alice been anyway
inactive is wat
Inside that file ishttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/subnautica/images/9/9c/Reaper_Leviathan_Side.png/revision/latest?cb=20160910000522
she got lost during an expedition to find lifepod 8
probably got eaten by a stalker
TRIGGERED
god bless her soul
TRIGGERED
yeah i dont know where she is
i probably fucked up in some way, maybe
or shes at school
actually thats probably it
I think he got eaten by lifepod
Alice is 23
he?
she*
@summer kindle college/university
TRIGGERED
@final oxide
👺
@wispy loom just a question, how old are you ?
69
42
Guess please.
youre not 18 yet
12343456u90t5gbe'\wr[-igkpf
@grizzled tinsel pls
My english is worser
he's w!
lol sry
yes
1337
@summer kindle You won!
i was born in the year wxyz
@lapis drum, Im preparing the main page codes. Will send it to you for review when its done.
@indigo loom which ones?
Front page.
gotcha
oh good, i'd like to see them once they';re up
Can I see it pls
Oh, and guys, I just noticed the "edit mobile page" Am I late ?
some parts of it.
http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Yayieali/Portals
{{Portal/Component/Twitter}} {{Portal/Component/Facebook}} Create a blog post | Browse more blog posts The Thing I don't know how to connect to interweb.Help me! Prawn stuck in air after making it... Experimental findings: The Discussion Browse more forums {{Portal/Component/Tabber}}
seems a bit large
So cool.
Are you going to send me a copy of what the main page will look like post-implementation?
kk
Yayie is bae
wot
Coding is too hard for me 😩
I can code
i can do basic stuff
we wouldn't be lost without yayie, the wiki would just look like shit
I can do basic stuff I do nothing
yayie appreciation day is today
also its 9/11
it is?
appreciates
so they go hand and hand it seems
"happy" 9/11 everyone. Yeah, i forgot too until this morning
Who here is american?
Do you do a
ceremonial thing?
idk
I am american
lies
No lies.
I'm a subnautican if i'm a boneshark ?
lol
canadians are best
Abd French worst.
second best
French Canadians
I am french
Welcome to Quebec
So why does the Sunbeam page break everything for me?
you were american a few minutes ago @wispy loom
Because the sunbeam blows up so so does the page
because I am spy.
sphee
IT is sunbeam not sunbean
sumbean
I am aware, simple typo
lmao
EVILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Eminem is so close together
Sunbeam
summerbeamer
lmao
What does the page say?
The Sunbeam was a passing cargo ship that picked up the distress signal sent by the Aurora.
but i can see you added more things
hm
i'll look into it
done it
you forgot to take out the <gallery>
That's what I took out
i was wondering if that was it
mhm
It was edited now
gud
gud
should rocket base be in the energy category?
No.
k
It require precursor energy.
We don't no that bunch of thing about the rocket, including if it use energy or not.
i wouldn't think that it uses energy
flora fauna AND life forms seems redundunt
considering it's a one time thing
@fluid lagoon Yeah.
I found this on rocket base https://gyazo.com/54727477ca60fc699a2ad6e46b7ccbcb
am i a established registered user?
Anyone with an account is.
is red ghost ray in ILZ cited?
Probably not but we know it is.
Nope we have a citation
the helpful links thing is useless
https://gyazo.com/ea9d947b2d0f86bfdbcb60cc406edd40
Look like DEV copy and paste a exosuit and replace it as rocket base.
@tough rampart the citation is already on the Red Ghost Ray page.
They need one ?
lava falls is part of ALZ/ILZ
Yeah, and, it's very tiny.
yes
Eyyo guys ❤
it'd be pointless to have individual pages for things like the lava pit and whatnot
I'm back 😃
Hello @heavy plaza !
welcome
I am wiki keeper now!
Hello 😃
@heavy plaza sup nerd
.:)
Nothing to say about the lava falls @tough rampart.
im back to being active on the wiki
Enjoy 😃
😃
#MrRycartNerd
oh hai ryan
@heavy plaza cheers.
All hail MrRycart
❤
❤
@stuck pawn how do you feel about a separate page for Sea Emperor eggs?
💔
💔
😦

B)
@summer kindle i'm up for it
sure

👽 I am precursor.
Perfect.
how do i use the subnautica template
@summer kindle wait why tho
They don't fit on the eggs page at all.
Boneshark is too ope
Everyone is too active on wiki
im going to make a leviathan category
yeah too much information to put onto the eggs page
They can't be picked up and they have no set hatching time.
You have to complete certain tasks to hatch them
yeah differnt page
I'll do it later.
And we know certains requierment for the eggs.
They would be on the eggs page still, but they will have their own page as well.
yeah
if there were any sub-areas in the game that needed seperate pages from the main biome
it would be the areas in the lost river
They do
@stuck pawn lava zones not so much
oh yeah that
welp
i'm planning to use the tabber for the lost river areas on the page
i believe yayie finished it
could a seed template work?
doubt it
🔜
@tough rampart why did you create the leviathan category
@tough rampart we don't even know if the Sea Emperor counts as a Leviathan.
I'm big
i guess i will remove it from the category
I'm not a leviathan.
Sea emperor is. But not sea emperor.
The leviathan category is pretty unnecessary
Leviathan is very danagerous and very big.
yeah
Leviathan should be in emporer
Leviathan class seems to come from it being dangerous rather than it being large, the Reaper data bank entry says it's a "Leviathan Class Predator"
Yeah, bip' is right.
Same
The Sea Emperor, based on what it said in those documents, is fairly passive.
i don't see the intelligent part
all but confirmed to be passive
he did escape precursor base.
@fluid lagoon its sentient
@wispy loom he didn't really.
Emperor
yeah but it just seems like it behaves like any other creature would
@wispy loom He don't break the prison, he's still in.
The Sea Emperor also seems to be the largest identified creature in the SN/NS universe.
okay
@summer kindle yeah, pretty large.
Anyway, it's quite late now, I have to sleep, I will not talk anymore, see yah tomorow.
This what final size will be like.
bai
We know.
lmaoh
The Sea Emperor data bank entry starts off with "SPECIMEN SIZE CATEGORIES HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED UPWARD TO ACCOMMODATE THIS SPECIES"
true
Meaning it's the largest discovered creature in the SN/NS universe.
accurate
Wait, about one skeletion on lost river?
The precursors seems to have discovered another big creature bip' >:)
And undiscovered.
By the humans.
@wispy loom yeaaah ?
@stuck pawn I think it's a related species
about skeletion
Yeah, I know ?
It's a cousin !
That what I was gonna said
@wispy loom I doesn't said that
Scan skeleton (ency entry) - "Seadragon Skeleton",
"This semi-intact skeletal structure features a 99% overlap with that of the other leviathans identified in the area, suggesting it is either the same species, or a close cousin."
Well.
yeah, it says its a close cousin
A BIG CLOSE COUSIN WELL
But it has 6 eye.
?
Cousin can be different.
"There is clear evidence of physical trauma to the head. The damage is so severe it must have been received shortly before death, somewhere nearby."
It also says this
It was killed
its obviously not the escaped sea dragon
It's way older than the precursors
Yeah
But I am still confused. It said there was 512 leviathan, skeletion in lost river die before precursor arrived 1k year ago.
The leviathans are different
@wispy loom forget the thing about all the leviathans.
2 confirmed 1 unconfirmed
One Sea Dragon was contained within the Lost River base.
One Sea Emperor is contained within the ALZ base.
oh we're talking about the number of leviathans in general not the number of species of leviathans
the sea dragon escaped
Yes
"Was"
it destroyed the lr base
And spread the virus.
RIP. GG
GG no re
so were they trying to find a cure for Carar, or were they just testing Carar?
It spread the virus?
Gg wp precursors, playing with things that you can't controle.
Trying to find the cure
then sea dragon live in ILZ.
@tough rampart by destroying the base it released the Carar.
Yeah I guess
doesn't that mean they had Carar contained?
@fluid lagoon yes they did.
why not just kill off the rest of the infected then
Why is cure so important?
because the virus kills in 5 weeks
The Kharra kills
@wispy loom 143 billions.
Or
Are the precursors alive
Maybe
maybe maybe not
@wheat plaza Look like world is not enough big to fit 143 billions fish.
@wispy loom we only play on a small section of the planet.
@wispy loom not only on the planet, the virus was not in anyway.
I believe 130 billions live in void
They probably use the 4546b planet as a big laboratory, very far from their worlds.
Pretty much
Yes.
Yeah
it's a bit ridiculous how we just so happened to crash on the part of the planet that had the most important precursor bases
They don't care about the planet, they set it up so if the Carar is released, the entire planet is quarantined and nothing can escape.
yep
If the planet is in quarantine, precursors can't left it.
point
if they were clean they could have left
he has a point
But they could have died.
maybe
I hope most of our questions will have answers.
They most likely left
It said that you can build rocket with precusor tech. So that is mostly like precursor was moving to different planet for big labertory?
The precursor tech is for energy
@wispy loom Ion clusters.
It is very powerful than aurora.
I did edit it
@wispy loom where are you from bro
French kids wrote "Orora"
leon! my favorite doge!
*Orore
Our favorite doge.
pls
yis
sleep
gud
bye
seriously where are you from bro
ok bro
why is @wheat plaza not leaving
nu
Then you are not doge.
Everyone love doge.
Everyone want doge.
Everyone want you.
You should make everyone happy.
i want myself
me too
I mean @heavy plaza
What?
@heavy plaza Why you do this? https://gyazo.com/999a790a7ffd651e36b050a19600353a
free country
I love playing flood escape lol
Same
@heavy plaza flood escape is lame
@fluid lagoon There is minecraft version of it
there's a minecraft version of everything
meincarft
@heavy plaza Pls stop
there's a MC version of MC too
@heavy plaza play apocalypse rising or gtfo
Then
guys stop buggin him ffs
Why you are not working on wikia? @heavy plaza
@stuck pawn pls
keep out of this
I play what I want :/
exactly
Wiki keeper is your job, @heavy plaza
@wispy loom why are you not on the wikia ?
guys lets sto[
stop*
*stop
Too much ? xD
I edit 30 on this day
@fluid lagoon good, dont purposely annoy other people
Lets move to subnautica chat.
Thanks @stuck pawn
np
So what's new?
nothin
@heavy plaza Precursor.
Precursors aren't new ! D:
the textures are relatively new
yeah that
😃
@heavy plaza That is what new texture look like http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/subnautica/images/f/fc/Precursor_GUN_Base.png/revision/latest?cb=20160910215912
Not really precise.
Wooo damn @wispy loom
@heavy plaza Look so sweet.
(afk)
👌🏻
I gonna take bathroom, so I will be afk.
Ooooook
fishrus wants to put a juvenile sea emperor in an alien contaiment
that's a bit hypocritical of the guy that wants to stop the precursors for imprisoning a sea emperor in an aquarium
Are you talking to him?
gee whiz fishrus
@stuck pawn HE STILL THINKS THE AURORA WAS ON A TERRAFORMING MISSION
sigh
really the only argument people could make about the aurora's mission still being terraforming planet 4546b is "if they weren't going to terraform the planet, why did they bring seamoths?????????"
which can easily be explained by saying that the seamoths were for the Degasi rescue
Same with prawn suits and cyclops's