#Why they can play with their friends and we can't

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pallid shuttle
north prairie
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I guess they are better then us

pallid shuttle
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这里有任何理论家可以帮助我们吗

green kayak
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IS THIS SERIOUS THEORYCRAFT?

prime elk
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wraith slate
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are there any player numbers for china?

glass needle
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xDDDDDD

robust jay
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nvm wrong info

sly kestrel
pearl hill
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in november 2024

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OB

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for 1-2 weeks

sly kestrel
pearl hill
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oh yea

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sorry

robust jay
cedar dew
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crazy

sly kestrel
rugged flame
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TC HOW DARE YOU ReallyAngry

robust jay
rare dock
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Easy answer to this question, they care about China market but not western market. Easy answer

cloud verge
# wraith slate are there any player numbers for china?

I think there was a million signups for Chinese Beta
And the viewership numbers on Chinese websites are better than western counterparts
So it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re holding on over there with more people / more stable population slope

tulip bobcat
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RANKED soloQ ONLY

pearl hill
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🤣

tulip bobcat
spice grotto
tulip bobcat
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soloQ shows who has real skills

heady prism
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My guess would be dramatically larger player base which fixes a lot of the issues encountered in the western version of the game.

I've said for a while now that things are likely to skew more in favor of the Asia regions simply due to that being where they are finding the most support for the game currently. Until things pick up in the western market I don't think there are likely to be any changes to ranked premade matchmaking.

frosty patio
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Can we have numbers of players to know how well the game is doing in china/asia region ?

pallid shuttle
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or ppl playing duo / trio

tulip bobcat
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soloQ forces the person to learn how to play in team, the current state is if you are soloQ and drop on 2 friends lower elo on your team the tendency is these two push the play in ways the game ends on the begining

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either you carry the game or lose

echo portal
tulip bobcat
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no friends

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but after you hit masters is pain, cuz then you only get ppl who knows the game and play at least duos

glass needle
mint basin
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Isnt the problem with soloq that you can be gold + legend on the same team? Lol

rare dock
mint basin
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Yeah
Stacking in high elo always worries me because you cant always find higher mmr players to balance your stack

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If you 3 stack in gold and get thrown into a dia avg game, thats fine
U are 3 stack, your mmr should go up
But 3 stack in legend and then what? Majority of the lobby is gonna be weaker than you anyway unless queue times are HUGE

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High elo stacking just generally creates balancing issues id imagine

rare dock
livid storm
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Kinda crazy to see this in conjunction with having full access to armory without the forge gatcha lol. Why isn't this implemented in the western version??

rare dock
gloomy dock
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Favorite child spotted

livid storm
mint basin
livid storm
# mint basin Idk how it was in beta, but ik in alpha you would collect the same item to incre...

I think in beta pve mobs would drop shards that go towards leveling up items and picking up a duplicate increases it further
I disliked shops being added in but that's just my opinion.

I feel like it's good to have info available outside of the matches and i can understand not wanting to overwhelm players with too much info all at once but like... league gives an optimal build while allowing players to have access to the full inventory of items. Why not do the same here? Is this the bandaid solution for a lack of content to keep players engaged? If so, it's a poor idea.

I cant even get my friends to keep playing the game since there's a lot to learn to reach the floor. Only the highly competitive and motivated ones stay long enough to learn the mechanics of supervive. If the player count is why there is a ranked restriction, then something needs to be done to retain new players of all skill levels

mint basin
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iirc in alpha there was also a "glossary" tab that would give you ALL of the info
every status effect, jg mobs, when things would spawn, what armories were, etc
now you're just thrown to the wolves and left to pray

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not that i ever read the glossary, btw
i was too lazy

BUT i think its nice to have
for example, in dota, if i ever didnt know how something worked i would either look it up or use the in-game glossary
i think its nice to have in-game ways to get info

i know everyone can look things up, but you shouldnt have to

livid storm
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I agree with you!

I wish hovering over keywords would give me a more in-depth explaination, but that's not yet a thing in supervive. It's a small qol thing that I rly appreciate in games.

gloomy dock
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My guess is NetEase prob said smthn abt players not liking the new systems since they are the ones producing in china

mint basin
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dont a lot of other non-NA countries have laws against gamba? maybe thats part of it

gloomy dock
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No idea what cn laws are exactly but from what I’ve seen you just have to disclose rates over there

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Cuz thats how gacha games do it

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And they even allow you to pay for rolls compared to strictly earned

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So the only thing I can think of is either NetEase didnt like it themselves or players didnt

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If they are just scared of lootbox laws though I wish NA could get some laws so they would be scared of it over here too xD

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My queue times have been so bad that I cant even use the armory I worked for so I just quit

mint basin
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honestly im not against lootboxes as a concept so idk

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i dont think armory is bad bc its lootbox, i only think its bad because it locks people out of having "full" access to the game at the start
creating an uneven competitive playing field

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but the lootbox nature of it doesnt really matter to me

in fact, id go as far to say that im an advocate for lootboxes in some contexts

gloomy dock
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Im an advocate for lootboxes in the big games that lets you earn cosmetics for free by playing like league hextech chests

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But I dont think tc should do that cuz they obv need to make money

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And it feels like they just wanted a loot crate and it didnt make sense

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Idk if there was a better way to implement ‘core mechanic locked behind lootbox’, cuz when I type it out like that it just sounds scummy

mint basin
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core mechanic locked behind lootbox is definitely rough
im always down for cosmetics behind lootboxes though, but your game needs a LOT of cosmetics for that to be worthwhile
like what league does

mellow pendant
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my favorite part of supervive is no matter what the discussion is about it always turns into armory bad

rare dock
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This community is great ain't it 🙂

mint basin
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honestly though...
i dont mind the armory that much xd
it definitely gave me a reason to keep playing
and then by the time i got most of the armory, i become good enough at the game to keep playing

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although, i hit diamond and then kinda stopped playing again lol

mellow pendant
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i got diamond with 30% armory completion 🙂

mint basin
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i just dont think the armory should be as invasive as it is
i really think the old system of picking up shards/items to level up that item would be good here
then, even if you have 1* of any item, you just keep spamming the same item and all is good

mint basin
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then i hit dia with 80 games and roughly 100 hours
thats good enough to me

mellow pendant
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fair play

mellow pendant