#The platform abusers must be stopped

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buoyant lynx
manic hatch
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Dunking character detected , opinion about about platforms rejected

buoyant lynx
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Dunking with a platform though? Lol

manic hatch
maiden nacelle
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Platforms don't dunk though?

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What am I missing

split frost
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Platforms instakill anyone below them

plush otter
plush otter
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It's a bug

maiden nacelle
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I've never had it happen and I spam platforms susegge

balmy pawn
# plush otter It's a bug

Is it really a bug though? There is a giant fan under the platform; makes sense it would also dunk anyone under it via air pressure.
What you call a bug is 'clearly just an innovative use of sandbox mechanics in a unique circumstance'.

golden kraken
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TC later: We put a CD on platform

maiden nacelle
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Cast time on platform

fleet forge
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Oh is dunking bad? BRALL Should dunking not happen? BRALL You should have just dodged the potential for a platform dunk. BRALL!

Okay sarcasm aside I agree that shouldn't happen. Dunking is bad enough as is. We don't need more of it.

half star
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brall player, not even gonna bother

nimble pebble
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my ally killed me with a platform yesterday lol

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also i feel like the hate on dunking is super misdirected atp like i never remember dunking being such a problem before all of the recent changes that are the actual problem with the game

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removing dunking is such a bandaid fix

split frost
# nimble pebble removing dunking is such a bandaid fix

There was an OB patch where the entire meta was Brall/Jin running awau from you anr dunking you the secind you crossed abyss bc their mobility was even higher than it is now. The new map exacerbates the issue but Dunking had always been a problem in one way or another on hyper-mobile hunters.

nimble pebble
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and then roll the lobby

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due to revival

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moreso than the dunking

split frost
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You're thinking of the resurgence patch I think

nimble pebble
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yea

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was there another brall/jin meta after that?

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based on dunking?

split frost
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I can't remember specifically when the one I'm referring to was but I believe it was around feb/march

nimble pebble
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was that not the resurgence patch?

split frost
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The worst part was them perma running away for free, the dunks are what made them unpunishable in that patch

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Kind of exactly what the issues are now

nimble pebble
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yeah to some degree

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i dont think bralls dunk in particular is very problematic

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at the current moment

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thats the only dunk character that i feel mostly fine fighting in the abyss, and when i get dunked by brall it usually feels like it was avoidable in some way

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if not directly, then by making some other decision beforehand

round knoll
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dunking SHOULDNT be a problem but the best way to explain it is power creep

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Longer ttk
100x more abyss
Glider changes to lmb spiking when abyss fighting
all jus lead to dunking gaining power

nimble pebble
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yeah but dunking nerfed means were just going to be complaining about strong ranged characters in the abyss now instead

round knoll
round knoll
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will it be dead?

nimble pebble
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i mean ranged characters will be much more dominant over the abyss

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and then maybe people realize that dunking wasnt the problem

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its the map

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i also wonder if melee characters will start abusing the eplat bug to "dunk" people

split frost
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I actually think dunking will still be very strong. Forcing someone to glide near the abyss floor is crazy value.

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Kingpin/Jin will suffer the most for sure

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But Brall and Tetra will be completely fine. Both have too much damage as is

round knoll
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tetra nerf when? 😳

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yeah i think the biggest nerf would jus be to the kp hook dunk

nimble pebble
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tetra doesnt rlly have much damage over the abyss to punish someone gliding at the floor i think

split frost
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I think that's a fine thing. Her strength lies in zone control on land. Being strong over abyss doesn't really make sense with her kit

nimble pebble
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but shes giga strong on land and this change will probably deemphasize mobile melee characters abusing the abyss for spacing

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yeah agreed

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her dunk was pretty hard to actually land over the abyss proper anyway

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minus the grabby combo

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obviously

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it was mostly a tool for camping edges

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@split frost do you agree that it kind of feels like theyre just creating a mess to bandaid over that the new map is bad?

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because i really feel like the dunking change is not going to really fix much

split frost
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I'm actually in the minority that likes the new map. Maybe there's a bit too much abyss in some locations, but overall I really like it

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I do understand that's an unpopular opinion on this discord

nimble pebble
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i think that maybe it could be okay

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i feel like theres way too many circles that are genuinely 95% abyss

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like i dont even think the lava baron spawned in a game i played yesterday because there was no valid location

buoyant lynx
nimble pebble
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grabby into eplat

nimble pebble
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cant say im a fan

round knoll
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i will say they did make some changes to the zone pulling and ive not seen anything like thatsince

split frost
nimble pebble
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but areas of like 95% abyss within the outer edges of the map are fair game

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(theres a few)

nimble pebble
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i assume its unintended but not exactly a bug either

split frost
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Yeah probably unintended aggressive use but the kill might be intended fir whichever reason. My money is on either it's there to be funny when you kill a friend (it is), or it's there from an early stage if development where they didn't want to figure out people getting stuck inside it until later.

vast hearth
split frost
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Eplat is a bandaid fix while we're waiting in the dunk changes

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I would expect it to be remived from shop next patch

nimble pebble
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i dont think the dunk changes make the excessively empty areas any less boring

vast hearth
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Need map changes. Dunk changes do not fix anything

nimble pebble
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its just removes so much of the environmental identity of areas

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abyss fighting is boring when it is such a massive part of every single fight