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azure tree Jul 7, 2022, 9:14 AM

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👋 happy to help

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are all installments the same?

charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 9:14 AM

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yes

azure tree Jul 7, 2022, 9:17 AM

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then you can use the cancel_at https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/create#create_subscription-cancel_at and set it to the date of the last cycle of your subscription

Stripe API reference – Create a subscription – curl

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charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 9:26 AM

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I did this but there was a problem: if the subscription is created today, as the payment is monthly, it will renew on Aug 7, so cancel_at I set it to Aug 7 +7 days to make sure that the subscription does not expire before the last installment is paid (I had a case of a user who did not pay the last installment because the subscription had expired earlier) and allow the user to manage any payment errors (for example insufficient funds). Since I added these 7 days, the last installment is less than the others because for the system only 7 days of subscription remain and not the whole month, so last invoice he pays only last 7 days

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that's not good

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do you understand?

azure tree Jul 7, 2022, 9:35 AM

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yes

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I'm trying to think of a good way to solve it

charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 9:44 AM

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last time you colleague tell me someting built in for installments

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that i could set the number of installment i want on subscription

azure tree Jul 7, 2022, 9:47 AM

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this is called subscription schedules

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or I think you can also take a look at the scheduled payments https://stripe.com/docs/invoicing/hosted-invoice-page/scheduled-payments

Scheduled payments

Let your customers schedule their payments through the Hosted Invoice Page.

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this is I think even better for your case

charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 9:57 AM

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when I use subscription schedules do I have to set the price currency monthly or is just needed to set subscription schedules iterations field to the number of installments?

azure tree Jul 7, 2022, 10:00 AM

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iterations is the way to go for installments

charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 10:03 AM

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what does the end_behiavor field do?

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i don't understand

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in subscription schedules

compact wigeon Jul 7, 2022, 10:05 AM

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Behavior of the subscription schedule and underlying subscription when it ends. Possible values are release and cancel.
https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscription_schedules/object#subscription_schedule_object-end_behavior

Stripe API reference – The schedule object – curl

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charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 10:09 AM

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yes i don't understand what release and cancel values do

compact wigeon Jul 7, 2022, 10:17 AM

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If cancel, the underlying subscription would be cancelled when all phases are complete

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If release, then the subscription would just go on following the natural billing cycle (monthly, etc)

charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 10:20 AM

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oh ok, and when is set to cancel there is no hard delete right? The subscription will always be visible in dashboard even if canceled

compact wigeon Jul 7, 2022, 10:22 AM

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Correct yes, they're not deleted. Just in a terminal state (can't be reactivated)

charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 10:37 AM

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subscription schedules don't return a client secret?

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before to create a subscription I used $subscription = $stripe->subscriptions->create([...]) and in $subscription I had the object

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now with $subscription = $stripe->subscriptionSchedules->create([..]) this don't return anything

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sorry it return somenting different

compact wigeon Jul 7, 2022, 10:40 AM

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Yes, the schedule just facilitates creating a subscription object (where payment is facilitated) according to the specified schedule

charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 10:44 AM

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But i need a client_secret to generate payment element, where to get it?

compact wigeon Jul 7, 2022, 10:45 AM

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From the initial invoice of the generated subscription

charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 11:03 AM

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sorry, i don't want to refactor all my system with subscription schedules
Now i use subscription with currency monthly and cancel_at field based on number of installments I decide.
So if customer has 2 installments and the fist has been paid on subscription creation I set cancel_at field of his subscription at today's date +1 month, so the system can automatically charge only one more installment. It's happened that some subscription ended before the last installment has been paid, so i added +1 week to cancel_at field to all subscriptions. Now the problem is that Stripe in automatic calculates that the last installment is only for 1 week because from last installment date to cancel_at date the time remaining is 1 week so customer only pays for this 1 week and not the complete price of the installment. What can I do to make customers pay all installments the same price?

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tell me if it's clear

compact wigeon Jul 7, 2022, 11:26 AM

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Yep, you should use subscription schedules really. It's the best approach for instalments like this

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Otherwise you'll be wrestling with dates going forward

charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 11:47 AM

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but now i use $subscription = $stripe->subscriptions->create([...]), if i replace it with $subscription = $stripe->subscriptionSchedules->create([..]) it's not the same thing

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the last method don't generate payment_intent and client_secret

compact wigeon Jul 7, 2022, 11:53 AM

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Correct, it doesn't. Those would still exist on the subscription (invoice, really) that the schedule creates

charred carbon Jul 7, 2022, 11:57 AM

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so for getting payment_intent and client_secret i need to pick sub_id returned by subscriptionSchedules and get the subscription object via API?

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