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spice gyro Jun 9, 2022, 2:56 PM

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Hi 👋 we're not terribly familiar with the dashboard in this forum (we primarily focus on the API-side of integrations).

Do you have IDs for objects relating to a specific occurrence of this behavior that you could share?

tropic pike Jun 9, 2022, 3:07 PM

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Yes here are a fee PI and their transfers
pi_3L8U6tEmi33JOPih1sTynapT
tr_3L8U6tEmi33JOPih11Q6p4AV

pi_3L8U6kEmi33JOPih0CK7S6Qv
tr_3L8U6kEmi33JOPih0w34cpbf

pi_3L8TsOEmi33JOPih1Uc4aUFc
tr_3L8TsOEmi33JOPih1RITvVZy

spice gyro Jun 9, 2022, 3:27 PM

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Apologies for the delay, and thank you, pulling those up.

spice gyro Jun 9, 2022, 3:48 PM

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Hm, I see what you're saying, that the transfers seem to be for the entire amount rather than the payment amount minus the application fee amount. I'm continuing to look to see if I can isolate why.

spice gyro Jun 9, 2022, 4:03 PM

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Ah, apologies, I was overlooking that the way those work is to first transfer the entire payment amount to the Connected Account, and then transfer the application fee back to the platform, as mentioned here:
https://stripe.com/docs/connect/destination-charges#application-fee

For the first pair of IDs you provided, you can see this is the associated Fee object:
fee_1L8U6yRHwGcDYtRO1SA5thBy
https://stripe.com/docs/api/application_fees/retrieve

tropic pike Jun 9, 2022, 4:05 PM

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Got it so this is by design thanks

spice gyro Jun 9, 2022, 4:06 PM

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Any time!

tropic pike Jun 9, 2022, 4:06 PM

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so the collected fees is jsut a calculation that we pass and tell the connected acocunt to transfer back

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its not done automatically?

spice gyro Jun 9, 2022, 4:08 PM

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No, the return transfer does happen automatically, there aren't additional actions that need to be taken.

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This diagram helps show what the flow of funds looks like, but again, this all happens automatically:
https://stripe.com/docs/connect/destination-charges#flow-of-funds-app-fee

Creating destination charges on your platform

With Connect, you can create charges on your platform account, take fees, and then transfer remaining funds to your connected accounts.

tropic pike Jun 9, 2022, 4:14 PM

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sorry, so the type of charge that was made is a destination charge?

raven obsidian Jun 9, 2022, 4:15 PM

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👋 stepping in here as toby needs to step away.

tropic pike Jun 9, 2022, 4:15 PM

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If we want to control the payout and transfer ourselves and do it in lump sums, is that something that has to be done with direct charges?

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Thanks for the help @spice gyro

raven obsidian Jun 9, 2022, 4:15 PM

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So there are 3 types of charges for Connect, we outline them here: https://stripe.com/docs/connect/charges

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Have you given that a look before?

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In order to lump and transfer when you want you would want Separate Charges and Transfers

tropic pike Jun 9, 2022, 4:17 PM

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Is this able to be done through the stripe dashboard? or must it be done programmatically?

raven obsidian Jun 9, 2022, 4:18 PM

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You can create transfers via the Dashboard, yes.

tropic pike Jun 9, 2022, 4:18 PM

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Thank you and so if we manage the transfer can we use the payout shcedule to make the transfer less the fees, if we were to use the Seperate charges? https://stripe.com/docs/connect/manage-payout-schedule

Managing payout schedule

Manage the automatic payout schedule to your connected accounts.

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