#Early fraud warnings

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zinc lake
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Hi! It’s from Visa’s TC40 and MasterCard’s SAFE records

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RDR is a different thing

shrewd trellis
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Hi David, thanks for responding :). I thought it was TC40s + SAFE, but I was surprised to see rapid dispute resolution on the object in sigma.

zinc lake
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If you’re already set up with RDR, these will basically get surfaced to you as “unwinnable” disputes with the RDR property you noticed

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The EFW has the RDR property? Or the dispute does?

shrewd trellis
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At present, we're not setup with Verifi's RDR / CDRN, am going to sign a contract with Kount to get these services early next week to help us reduce our friendly fraud.

zinc lake
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If you’re seeing it on the EFW, that surprises me

shrewd trellis
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1 sec will show you

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just booting up Sigma

zinc lake
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Apologies I’m not on our VPN (I thought this one would be a slam dunk!) but I can look into the data schema later on today

shrewd trellis
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No worries, where I spotted it was actually in the Stripe 'Fraudulent Dispute Activity' graph which can be opened in Sigma (It generates the following query).

Select
date(date_trunc('day', charges.created)) as day,
count_if(disputes.charge_id is not null and disputes.reason = 'fraudulent') * 100.0 / count(*) as fraud_dispute_rate_percentage
from
charges
left join disputes on charges.id = disputes.charge_id
where
charges.created >= timestamp '2022-01-01 00:00:00'
and charges.created < timestamp '2022-03-12 00:00:00'
and charges.paid
and charges.captured
and not coalesce(disputes.network_details_visa_rapid_dispute_resolution, false)

group by
1
order by
1 asc

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It's passed into the not coalesce function there and it seems to live on the dispute object.

zinc lake
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This query looks to me like it’s just reckoning actual disputes, not Early Fraud Warnings

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It is my belief EFWs are not in the disputes table, but in another table

shrewd trellis
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Yep, they are, with their own object. No worries.

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On a side note, support gave me a merchant id this morning, but I'm not sure if it's an aggregate one or a dedicated one for just our account? Are you aware of any Stripe customers with their own dedicated merchant id as opposed to using an aggregate?

zinc lake
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Every stripe merchant should have a unique merchant ID starting with acct_

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Without seeing the exchange it’s unclear to me what they gave you

shrewd trellis
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Oh that's interesting, I thought we were all aggregated under Stripe's umbrella. In terms of the message:

Taking a look at your account [0] I am glad to let you know that your unique MID is CTP2***************D

Is this something I can provide to Visa directly and they'll be able to utilise?

zinc lake
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Ah! That’s a merchant identifier. Different from a Stripe account ID, which is internal to us.

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Depending on which I’d they grabbed it may be an aggregator id, or it may be unique to you. I suspect the latter, but can’t confirm until I’m online.