#NickMason-proration
winter flower
Hey! Sure, that's possible. It's called prorations: https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/prorations
signal karma
Great – thank you. Is it possible to do this with quotes as well? i.e. we send a customer a quote for their upgrade, they accept and we prorate like that? Or would we need to do that with manual credit notes through the API?
winter flower
Hmm, not sure what you mean? Once you accept a Quote, it's converted to a Subscription/Invoice. So the proration/upgrade would be done on the subsequent Subscription object
signal karma
got it, thank you. So I would set the proration on the original subscription and it would apply to the new one from the quote?
winter flower
I'm confused. Which new subscription?
Sounds like:
- You have a pre-existing subscription.
- You want to upgrade/downgrade a user.
- You send them a quote.
- You want to upgrade/downgrade the existing subscription to reflect the quote.
signal karma
correct!
winter flower
Not sure you can use quotes like that with a pre-existing subscription, checking
signal karma
ok, thanks
winter flower
Hmm, maybe you can (haven't used Quotes at all to be clear 😃 )
Ah, that's a beta feature
signal karma
got it – so we can't use it right now?
winter flower
I'm afraid not 😦
signal karma
ok, thanks. But could we do it with manual credit notes for example?
winter flower
Well once your quote was approved, you would just perform the subscription update manually: https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/upgrade-downgrade
That will handle the prorations as you need too (by passing proration_behaviour param)
signal karma
Cool, so process is:
- Make new quote for customer
- They accept it
- We go into their original subscription and update it based on the quote they accepted
Is that right?
winter flower
Yup, should work as you need!
signal karma
thanks! Will we need to void the invoice the quote will generate, too?
winter flower
Yeah that's probably the sore point of this way. It'll likely create a new subscription as your quote will contain a recurring price I assume:
If the quote has at least one recurring price on a line item, then a subscription or subscription schedule is created. A subscription schedule is created if the effective date on the quote is in the future, otherwise a subscription is created. The first invoice on the subscription is in draft status with auto_advance set to true.
https://stripe.com/docs/quotes/overview#accept
signal karma
yeah, exactly...ok, thanks!
winter flower
What I'd do to probably workaround that is pass subscription_data.effective_date (https://stripe.com/docs/api/quotes/create?create_quote-subscription_data-effective_date)
Then it'll create a subscription schedule, which isn't user facing, that you can just cancel
signal karma
splendid, thank you! Great idea!
So to check:
- Make new quote
- Update effective date to 1st Jan 2050
- Customer accepts quote
- Copy line items from quote to existing subscription
- Cancel quote
winter flower
No, you'd cancel the new Subscription Schedule generated from the Quote
winter flower
It'll be a Subscription Schedule, which would turn into a Subscription on the effective date (1st Jan 2050 in your example)
winter flower
Np!