#berlin-chargeback

1 messages · Page 1 of 1 (latest)

shy snow
#

the short version is that the card networks charge stripe for chargebacks, so stripe charges users for chargebacks

#

the longer version is that card networks don't want chargebacks, and one way to avoid them is to hit merchants with a fee to create an incentives for merchants to do things to avoid chargebacks (fraud checks, refund policies, customer support, etc)

final summit
#

Yeh but $15 for a chargeback? for a $34.99 transaction

shy snow
#

another element of it is that issuers / acquirers have to pay some analyst / customer support person somewhere to arbitrate the chargeback

#

and that typically is a fixed cost - it's as much work to arbitrate a $35 tranaction as a $350 one

final summit
#

But shouldn't there just be an option to refund the scammer? and settle it there

#

vs forcing a $15 fee on top of already loss profit from a scammer

shy snow
#

sure, except the bank has already gone to some amount of trouble

final summit
#

I don't know, doesn't feel right to know that the seller is the one that has to pay the fee, when stripe should of prevented the fraud in the first place

shy snow
#

for eg: a fraud case, the cardholder has noticed a transaction on their card they didn't make, they've phone their bank, some analyst paid by the bank has run this down, gotten some amount of evidence from the cardholder, etc., and then filed paperwork with stripe to reverse it

#

the issuer wants to be compensated for that, regardless of the outcome at that point

final summit
#

Honestly, after that incident, I halted stripe payments entirely

#

Didn't feel safe knowing scammers could drain profit so easily.

shy snow
#

that's fair enough, though this isn't really something specific to stripe

#

chargebacks are part and parcel of credit card payments