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half socketBOT May 22, 2026, 7:33 PM

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lone wyvern May 22, 2026, 7:33 PM

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*I'd only like to send the success notification when I have certainty

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sorry, long week

narrow harbor May 22, 2026, 7:33 PM

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hi there, looking into this

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can you share which doc you're looking at?

lone wyvern May 22, 2026, 7:34 PM

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https://docs.stripe.com/testing?testing-method=card-numbers#refunds

Test card numbers

Use test cards to validate your Stripe integration without moving real money. Test a variety of international scenarios, including successful and declined payments, card errors, disputes, and bank authentication. You can also test non-card payment methods and redirects.

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The behavior on the docs also matches the behavior I've seen on Stripe btw so I'm sure it's correct

narrow harbor May 22, 2026, 7:40 PM

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thanks - looking into this

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as far as I'm aware, listening for refund.updated Events with status: succeeded is a reliable way to know that a refund was successful

half socketBOT May 22, 2026, 7:46 PM

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narrow harbor May 22, 2026, 7:46 PM

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the reason you can't rely on the refund object in the response after creating it is because they are processed asyncronously

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but webhooks should take care of that

lone wyvern May 22, 2026, 7:46 PM

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no, im talking about async too

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Lemme grab an example

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For example, this:

https://dashboard.stripe.com/acct_1Bm6B4FdviIHOKAn/test/payments/pi_3TZy0qFdviIHOKAn1Inmi7mz

I see here a success status in an event in the event log BEFORE failed pops in

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vestal sphinx May 22, 2026, 7:51 PM

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hi there, taking over for janet as they had to step away. the issue is that the succeeded status represents Stripe successfully sending the refund request to the customer's bank. the bank can then reject that refund later (for example if the customer closed their account, or there was a problem with the customer's card). this can take up to 30 days after the refund is posted. we document this here: https://docs.stripe.com/refunds#failed-refunds

lone wyvern May 22, 2026, 7:55 PM

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Okay, and there's no reliable way to know if a refund was actually successful?

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