#nerder_best-practices

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pallid sable
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To add additional context, we are using Stripe Connect standard and our customers are Gyms selling Membership and bundle of classes

robust inlet
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There are mutliple layers and it depends on the types of products/services being sold

pallid sable
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ok, the tax_code makes any difference?

robust inlet
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I don't think so. It's more focused on the way the product/service is delivered. Since the gym membership isn't something that is delivered to a customer but happens at a location, we will use the Customer's billing address details from their Payment Method

pallid sable
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Ok, I'm a bit worried about this in our specific scenario

robust inlet
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But if you were selling sofas (for instance), we would want to use the address the sofa is being shipped to

pallid sable
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In our case we are actually billing a marketplace, so a user can have a billing address in a country (case they live there), but then travelling to another gym to train there for a while

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normally they should not be tax exempt right?

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but in this case they would probably be if I'm understanding correctly

robust inlet
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Unfortunately I cannot speak to actual tax liability here. We can only offer advice on building Stripe integrations

pallid sable
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Yes, what I'm trying to understand if the integration is correct or not

robust inlet
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How are you integrating?

pallid sable
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because we are collecting customer address but they might end up calculating the tax incorrectly for some users

robust inlet
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If you could please explain your integration in terms of API calls and data passed to Stripe APIs that would help me understand

pallid sable
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So in a nutshell 3 steps:

  1. When the admin creates a product, I'm adding the correct tax_code (https://docs.stripe.com/tax/products-prices-tax-codes-tax-behavior#product-tax-code)
  2. When the user attempt to buy at checkout I'm pre-calculating the tax they will pay based on the GYM location (not customer) creating a TaxCalculation
  3. When the user completes the purchase, for both a sub or a one-off invoice, I'm enabling automatic_tax
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basically this is the integration

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      const taxCalculation = await this.stripe.tax.calculations.create(
        {
          currency: price?.currency,
          customer_details: {
            address: {
              country: gym.countryCode,
              state: gym.countryState,
            },
            address_source: 'billing',
          },
          line_items: [
            {
              amount: price?.price,
              reference: price?.code,
            },
          ],
        },
        {
          stripeAccount: gym.accountId.value,
        },
      );
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this is the code for the tax preview, using gym location not customers

robust inlet
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Okay. So in that case you would need to provide your tax calculation when you process the payment instead of relying on Stripe's automatic tax

pallid sable
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ah, that's interesting!

robust inlet
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It's basically our "Custom" flow. For those scenarios where our defaults don't match you business case

pallid sable
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Ok, but can this be used in combo with subscriptions or invoices?

robust inlet
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In that case you would need to apply them to each successful Payment Intent as the Customer pays the Invoice

pallid sable
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umm ok, this seems pretty complex

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probably not the correct path

robust inlet
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In this case we don't have a middle ground. Since you are already creating the tax calculation, you have the data

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And if you are using Susbcriptions you should already have a webhook listener

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But I get it that finding the right tax calculation for each Customer when receiving a payment_intent.succeeded event might be pretty tricky to get right

pallid sable
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Yes yes, but I wonder if the automatic_tax is not enough really

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seems a pretty normal use-case to me

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especially for connect

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I imagine that most services works like this for physical products (ie: Uber, InstaCart, etc)

robust inlet
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Nothing is "pretty normal" if Connect is invovled IMO 😅

But I recommend discussing tax liabilities with our Support staff (https://support.stripe.com/contact) to get clarity on whether or not automatic tax would work in this scenario

pallid sable
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Exactly, probably I will chat with them to understand better

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thank you so much for the pointers

robust inlet
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Sure thing! happy to shed what 💡 I can 🙂

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pallid sable
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hey

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just to make sure of one thing, how can I reproduce this behaviour you have in the dashboard:

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for some reasons my tax calculation is showing the VAT as excluded when it should be included

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this is the req: req_nDybgjx3Revqhs

random obsidian
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hello! Gimme a while to take a look

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I'm a little confused, that request (req_nDybgjx3Revqhs) you shared does show VAT, where are you not seeing it?

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  tax_breakdown: [
    {
      amount: 210,
      inclusive: false,
      tax_rate_details: {
        country: "ES",
        flat_amount: null,
        percentage_decimal: "21.0",
        rate_type: "percentage",
        state: null,
        tax_type: "vat",
      },
      taxability_reason: "standard_rated",
      taxable_amount: 1000,
    },
  ],
pallid sable
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yes I was expecting it to see it included tho

random obsidian
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ah, inclusive vs exclusive tax

pallid sable
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yes

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I see that there is a tax_behavior in the line_item which default to exclusive

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so this seems to be the issue, but how should I handle it? Should I know the convention in each country and provide one or the other?

random obsidian
pallid sable
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consider that this is Connect

random obsidian
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I don't think it should matter in this case. I think this is going to take a while for me to look into, can you write in and we'll get back to you about it. I'm going to share a DM with you where you can write in

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