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livid voidBOT
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compact rampart
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๐Ÿ‘‹ happy to help

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any create/update of a PM results in an auth and validation of the PM information

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this is totally expected

foggy drum
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is this documented?

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how should we update thousands of cards without freaking stripe out

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the API assistant disagrees with you

compact rampart
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AI answers are far from being 100% correct

foggy drum
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how should we handle this without alarming stripe, since it results in validation and too many of these will trigger high risk

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we need to update the billing address for thousands of migrated cards

compact rampart
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is this part of a Data Migration?

foggy drum
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yeah migration to Stripe

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cards have been migrated but we need to update the billing addresses so that Shopify will accept them

compact rampart
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how did you migrate the cards?

foggy drum
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upload via sftp and the data migration team

compact rampart
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ok so please contact the data migration team and see if they could help you with this

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in the same import

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why did you do this in 2 steps?

foggy drum
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that's before they are imported, this is handled via an external team that have not migrated the cards with billing address details

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these are legacy systems moving to stripe

compact rampart
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I'm not sure I follow

foggy drum
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when they upload to the sftp server they do not contain billing address details because that team isn't able to upload that data, they just upload the card numbers, expiry etc.

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previously this was not an issue but now Shopify requires the cards to have billing address details for them to be created in Shopify

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so the cards have already been imported but now they need their billing address details updated

compact rampart
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you need to contact the data-migration team anyway.

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if you already have a thread with them, I recommend replying on that same thread

livid voidBOT
foggy drum
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if there's any documentation on this validation that occurs when using payment_method/update that would be a big help if anyone goes to the api documentation they would naturally assume that it's fine to update billing address details in this manner

chilly oracle
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hi! I'm taking over this thread.

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we don't know much about migrations here on Discord, that's why we recommend directly talking to the migration team by email.

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if there's any documentation on this validation that occurs when using payment_method/update that would be a big help
can you clarify what you mean by this?

foggy drum
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earlier tarzan said "any create/update of a PM results in an auth and validation of the PM information"

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I'd like to know more about the validation that occurs during payment_method/update specifically where is this documented

chilly oracle
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the validation occurs when you attach a payment method on a customer, or when you use a payment method for a payment.

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and it can also happen on update yes

foggy drum
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but we were updating the billing address details and seeing errors such as charge declined

chilly oracle
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I don't think we document this

foggy drum
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hmm livemode declines is that what these are called

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and they trigger on a payment_method/update

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interesting that this isn't documented since it can lead to account closure

chilly oracle
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hmm livemode declines is that what these are called
yes exactly, but here on Discord we don't know much about this. that's why I recommend to directly talk to Stripe Support: https://support.stripe.com/contact

foggy drum
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that has proven less than productive which is why I am here on the hunt for even more answers

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they seem to know less than you here, I've achieved more through here than stripe support

chilly oracle
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I just double checked, and I see that when you update the payment method, Stripe talked to the bank to validate the card. But the bank just declined that transaction.

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but I agree we could explain that better in our documentation.

foggy drum
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we did this 17 thousand times and stripe was quite upset

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ultimately these cards are pretty much unmigratable anyway, but it will be difficult to convinve the rest of the team of this

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thanks for your help ๐Ÿ‘