#danboyle8637_api
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river kestrel
Hi there
lethal talon
Hey!
river kestrel
Hm, I was going to recommend using Subscription Schedules but Checkout Sessions don't support Schedules.
I think using Subscriptions for this might be overcomplicating this
You can create a Checkout Session in setup mode instead to collect payment details and include verbiage to your customers that you will charge them in 7 days unless they cancel. When day 7 arrives, you can make an off-session PaymentIntent to charge them for the product using the card they saved. If they payment declines, you can remove access to the product
How do you plan on handling trial cancellations?
lethal talon
in that scenario does hte off-session payment intent happen automatically or would I have to setup some type of endpoint or listen for a webhook?
to handle trial cancellations... I was just going to cancel the future payment and revoke access to the product. And in this case delete them entirely from my app (at least that's what I'm thinking at this point)
river kestrel
You'd have to set up some logic on your end that listens to checkout.session.completed events, then sets some timer on this before creating and confirming a PaymentIntent server side
Hm, you probably want to keep some sort of record on your end with email addresses at a minimum to ensure there's no trial abuse
lethal talon
I was thinking of doing something like create a subsciption with the trial. After the first payment listen for checkout.session.completed where I can get their customer id and then cancel the subscription immediately in my webhook so they won't have to pay again.
river kestrel
Yep, that works too!
You'd still need to have some logic on your end to listen for that successful payment and cancel before the next invoice is created so as not to overcharge customers
lethal talon
is cancelling the subscription the right thing to do or pausing?
I do have a webhook that is always listening so I should be able to match each customer up
river kestrel
Canceling. Pausing Subscriptions should only be used if you plan on granting access for free for a period of time. Pausing Subscriptions will still create draft Invoices as the billing cycles progress.
lethal talon
okay cool... thanks I'll have to set this up... and the best event to listen for is invoice.created or something close to that?
invoice.paid
river kestrel
Not exactly. invoice.created will alert you of a new Invoice though that Invoice will be in draft state at first
Yep, invoice.paid is perfect. You can also listen for customer.subscription.updated which should be triggered on Subscription cycles
lethal talon
oh cool... those are both in my webhook already so I can add the logic pretty easily
river kestrel
I recommend playing around with this using test clocks if you haven't already: https://docs.stripe.com/billing/testing/test-clocks
lethal talon
oh sweet... yeah that should help a lot... thanks
can you put in a feature request to make it easier to add a trial on a product?
when using Checkout Sessions that is
river kestrel
I think the issue here is the cancellation you want to trigger after x period of days though, right?
lethal talon
yeah just want to get the first payment and that's it
wintry kilnBOT
river kestrel
In that case, I can put in a feature request to have Checkout Sessions support Schedules
lethal talon
but I want their credit card on file becuase I don't want complete freebie seekers signing up
river kestrel
Schedules would allow you to work with iterations where you can automatically cancel a Subscription after 1 iteration of a certain price, if that makes sense
lethal talon
that's be awesome... yeah that does. I think that's using phases right?
river kestrel
yep!
lethal talon
cool... thanks so much for the help today I apprecaite it!
river kestrel
Sure thing!
lethal talon
have a good rest of the day
river kestrel
Ditto
solid skiff
fyi i'm taking over for roadrunner as they have to run. i'll keep the thread open for a little longer in case any more questions come up!
lethal talon
I should be good... should I wait to give a rating?