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lament rapidsBOT May 13, 2024, 7:59 PM

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dry frost May 13, 2024, 8:00 PM

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tried :Stripe::Subscription.create({
customer: stripe_customer_id,
items: [{price: stripe_price_id}],
billing_cycle_anchor: (Time.now + 1.week).to_i,
proration_behavior: 'none'
}, stripe_request_config)

elfin hamlet May 13, 2024, 8:00 PM

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Hello, can you tell me more about what you mean by a daily subscription that is charged every seven days? Can you lay out how you would ideally like for that to be charged?

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And do you have the ID of a subscription like this that has a trial when you don't expect it to?

dry frost May 13, 2024, 8:02 PM

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for example, I created a daily price for 10USD. I don't want to charge the users once they purchase the subscription. I want to charge them after 7 days, in other words, I want to charge them for 70USD

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every 7 days

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I'm not creating trialing subscriptions for it

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does it makes sense?

elfin hamlet May 13, 2024, 8:08 PM

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Gotcha. Unfortunately the cycles of our Prices cannot be broken up like that. If you define a daily price, that price can only be charged every day. So you will want to define this as a weekly price.
The only price configuration that we have that supports billing at the end of the cycle is usage-based billing. Everything else bills at the start of the month.
So, the way to get this behavior is to define a weekly usage-based billing price with a flat fee.

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This doc lays out how to define that. You can define everything but the flat price as being $0 https://docs.stripe.com/billing/subscriptions/usage-based/pricing-models#fixed-fee-and-overage-model

dry frost May 13, 2024, 8:11 PM

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I see. Thats a good call. Does this model support charging the user for x days if they cancel before the billing cycle is completed?

elfin hamlet May 13, 2024, 8:17 PM

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Unfortunately not, that was the caveat that I meant to bring up. Our metered billing flat fees do not support proration, so I think you'd need to calculate what that final charge should be and then charge your customer with an invoice for that amount.

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I will add to our feature requests for billing at the end of a cycle and having a cycle length different than the price's cycle length. I definitely get how useful those features would be

dry frost May 13, 2024, 8:19 PM

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Sounds good. This is very helpful. I'll reach out again in case I need more information after reading the docs and run some tests.

dry frost May 13, 2024, 8:34 PM

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I created the subscription but the user was charges immediately

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this is the request Stripe::Subscription.create({
customer: 'c_id',
items: [
{
price: 'p1_id',
quantity: 1,
},
{price: 'p2_id'},
],
}, stripe_request_config)

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the params are the same mentioned in https://docs.stripe.com/billing/subscriptions/usage-based/pricing-models?dashboard-or-api=api#fixed-fee-and-overage-model

elfin hamlet May 13, 2024, 8:40 PM

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Can you send me the ID of that subscription adnt the prices that you pssed to it?

lament rapidsBOT May 13, 2024, 8:46 PM

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dry frost May 13, 2024, 8:56 PM

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sub_1PG5WNCbKe5VvdH8C7gheTGT

barren pollen May 13, 2024, 8:56 PM

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Hi 👋

I'm stepping in as my colleague needs to go

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Thanks for the ID, taking a look now

dry frost May 13, 2024, 8:57 PM

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ty!

barren pollen May 13, 2024, 8:58 PM

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Okay so you provided a Customer and two prices. That means the Subscription defaults to automatically charging immediately if the Customer has a payment method.

What is the behavior you were looking for?

dry frost May 13, 2024, 8:59 PM

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I'm looking for charging the user after 1 week, not immediately

barren pollen May 13, 2024, 9:02 PM

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Do you mean you want a free trial for 1 week? Or that you want to bill at the end of the billing cycle?

dry frost May 13, 2024, 9:02 PM

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no, we don't want free trials, we only want to bill at the end of the billing cycle

barren pollen May 13, 2024, 9:03 PM

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Okay, the only way you can bill that way is to use usage-based billing prices

dry frost May 13, 2024, 9:05 PM

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yes, that's what Pompey suggested, but when I create a subscription it is paid immediately

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I followed these steps:

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https://docs.stripe.com/billing/subscriptions/usage-based/pricing-models?dashboard-or-api=api#fixed-fee-and-overage-model

Model usage-based pricing

Create your usage-based pricing model with Stripe Billing

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and this is the request I made

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Stripe::Subscription.create({
customer: 'cus_Q2AtWBRwLqN8eZ',
items: [
{
price: 'price_1PC1qICbKe5VvdH8a0iO6hQL',
quantity: 1,
},
{price: 'price_1PG5TjCbKe5VvdH8OAo0wLSk'},
],
}, stripe_request_config)

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both prices are weekly

barren pollen May 13, 2024, 9:07 PM

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The prices you provided are not. usage based so they bill immediately.

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You did not create usage-based prices so you do not see that behavior

dry frost May 13, 2024, 9:15 PM

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I created the steps in the URL I sent, using Stripe API. I created a new product and prices. The new subscription created was also paid immediatele sub_1PG6ASCbKe5VvdH8ge0oYYvE

barren pollen May 13, 2024, 9:16 PM

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The prices you created were not metered though

dry frost May 13, 2024, 9:16 PM

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Stripe::Product.create({name: 'Alpaca AI tokens'}, stripe_request_config)

id created: price_1PG68HCbKe5VvdH8w09YfrJA
Stripe::Price.create({
product: 'prod_Q6Ijcyv0yhkYIV',
currency: 'usd',
unit_amount: 20000,
billing_scheme: 'per_unit',
recurring: {
usage_type: 'licensed',
interval: 'week',
},
}, stripe_request_config)

id created: price_1PG69PCbKe5VvdH8kfawvsqi
Stripe::Price.create({
product: 'prod_Q6Ijcyv0yhkYIV',
currency: 'usd',
billing_scheme: 'tiered',
recurring: {
usage_type: 'metered',
interval: 'week',
meter: 'mtr_test_61QNxJYWP4RG6rXc441CbKe5VvdH8DOa',
},
tiers_mode: 'volume',
tiers: [
{
up_to: 100000,
unit_amount_decimal: '0',
},
{
up_to: 'inf',
unit_amount_decimal: '0.1',
},
],
}, stripe_request_config)

Stripe::Subscription.create({
customer: 'cus_Q268Ir7AdKTM1w',
items: [
{
price: 'price_1PG68HCbKe5VvdH8w09YfrJA',
quantity: 1,
},
{price: 'price_1PG69PCbKe5VvdH8kfawvsqi'},
],
}, stripe_request_config)

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I mean, I just did it again

barren pollen May 13, 2024, 9:17 PM

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If your prices are created for usage based billing, you also have to create usage records

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This is different than a tiered price, those are not the same thing

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You can not blend the two

dry frost May 13, 2024, 9:17 PM

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I see

barren pollen May 13, 2024, 9:18 PM

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You would need to only create a Subscription for price_1PG69PCbKe5VvdH8kfawvsqi if you wanted to only bill at the end of the cycle

dry frost May 13, 2024, 9:18 PM

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gotcha

barren pollen May 13, 2024, 9:19 PM

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And you would need to record usage of that price in order to determine the amount to bill: https://docs.stripe.com/billing/subscriptions/usage-based-legacy/pricing-models#metered

dry frost May 13, 2024, 9:19 PM

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That makes sense. I'll run some other tests tomorrow because I need to hop off. Will reach out again in case I need something else. I appreciatte your help with it

barren pollen May 13, 2024, 9:20 PM

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Sure thing! It's why we're here.

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