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Hiya - basically we just want stripe to use as a payment processor, not all the fanciness of having to deal with customer accounts and balances at that level.
But we also have some customers paying by bank, and to automate the processing of these payments, we would actually prefer to have them all pay to ONE VBAN
but using a payment reference
so my question is whether this is
(1) acceptable use
(2) will the remittance reference they put on the payment be available to use for reconciliating the payment with the correct invoice/customer in our proprietary software?
I can't say whether or not that's acceptable use (i'm not sure exactly; we just help with api questions). However, this will be tricky because you won't have access to such a remittance reference
Ah
Looks you're right: https://docs.stripe.com/api/cash_balance_transactions/object#customer_cash_balance_transaction_object-funded-bank_transfer-reference
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So in that case you could use manual reconciliation
Using that as a reference
But, again, not sure whether or not this is "acceptable" use
So recommend asking our support team: https://support.stripe.com/contact
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okay - will check in with them
but in theory - whenever a payment is received on a "dummy" customer
it would result in a new customer_cash_balance_transaction
so I could listen for the creation, and based on the reference make a payment intent which would transfer the cash balance to our account balance
right?
yeah exactly
which I can then transparently process in our accounting software
like any other payment
but then doing a refund would be a two step transaction for these cases?
1/ refund the payment intent which would increase the customer balance on the dummy account
2/ initiate a refund, but I see that that appears to be sending an email to a user having them complete account details?
I can not provide the bank information myself when doing the refund from the customer balance?
Correct it'd need to be a 2 step process
But you can define the email used
yes, but when you send that email
will that customer have access to the entire customer account?
that would immediately make our implmeentation invalid of course if we take the route of the "dummy" ustomer account
Oh no
It's also not an account
It's just an object in stripe representing a customer
That email is purely just instructions for submitting their bank account details
yes, but a refund is initiated from a customer balance
let's say if I have a "dummy customer"
and that dummy customer holds balances from two "actual customers"
wich we want to refund
I'd initiarte 2 refunds - one for each "actual" customer
and you would send two emails for each of those refunds
I can be 100% sure that those two customers just have to enter their bank details for these individual transactions and nothing else?
(to be honest - this is the first implementatio I see from stripe where I think you got it wrong - very happy with all your other flows, but forcing the customer balances in between the payments is really absurd - we wouldn't be needing VBANs if you could just accept incoming payment sfrom 1 VBAN linked to my account which you would just feed to us, and which we can individually have refunded - the customer balances make the process too complex imho)