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gilded flareBOT Mar 25, 2024, 4:37 PM

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maiden vaultBOT Mar 25, 2024, 4:37 PM

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silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 4:38 PM

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Hi 👋

I'm sorry I'm not quite clear on what you are trying to do here.

You want to allow a Customer to change what about their subscription?

late void Mar 25, 2024, 4:38 PM

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They have 1 subscription

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multiple subscription items

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 4:38 PM

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Usage records are meant to be used to record usage that has occurred so I'm not sure why you would want to clear the usage

late void Mar 25, 2024, 4:38 PM

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they will turn on and off subscription items

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i do not want to clear the usage

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i want to turn off 1 of the subscription items

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but when i call stripe.SubscriptionItem.delete

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 4:39 PM

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When you say "turn off" what do you mean?

late void Mar 25, 2024, 4:39 PM

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delete the subscription item

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and bill them for what usage has been reported thus far at end of billing cycle

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 4:39 PM

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Okay so they are no longer going to be subscribed to that item?

late void Mar 25, 2024, 4:39 PM

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correct

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 4:40 PM

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And are you able to make an API request and get back an error?

late void Mar 25, 2024, 4:40 PM

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yes

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'When deleting the subscription item XXX with a metered plan, all related usage records must be cleared too by setting clear_usage=true.'

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this is what i am confused on

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 4:40 PM

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Can you share the request ID?

late void Mar 25, 2024, 4:40 PM

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and the api documentation does not tell me much

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yes 1 sec

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req_MsteMZDXzErPH7

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 4:42 PM

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Thanks, taking a look

late void Mar 25, 2024, 4:42 PM

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thank you

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 4:42 PM

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Do you want to bill immediately for the existing usage?

late void Mar 25, 2024, 4:43 PM

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no

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i want at the end of the month to have the 1 invoice against this subscription showing they usage they used up to this point

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 4:44 PM

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I realize that we default to create_prorations but could you try passing in the proration_behavior='create_prorations' parameter?

late void Mar 25, 2024, 4:45 PM

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sure

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let me try

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same error

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InvalidRequestError(message='When deleting the subscription item si_PmmZyOKkGF4aaL with a metered plan, all related usage records must be cleared too by setting clear_usage=true.', param=None, code=None, http_status=400, request_id='req_MJr6orHPZY4nPK')

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 4:49 PM

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Okay and if you use always_invoice does that fail the same way? Sorry for asking you to jump through all these hoops but I've got a few threads to juggle

late void Mar 25, 2024, 4:50 PM

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no worries

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InvalidRequestError(message='When deleting the subscription item si_PmmZyOKkGF4aaL with a metered plan, all related usage records must be cleared too by setting clear_usage=true.', param=None, code=None, http_status=400, request_id='req_J8ErTKVrDgUkXr')

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same failure

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 4:56 PM

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I'm checking with my colleagues

late void Mar 25, 2024, 4:59 PM

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thanks

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 5:00 PM

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Okay, so for a Subscription Item with a metered price, it is expected that you would not delete it until the the end of the billing period. The idea being that, even if the Customer does not want that item any more, you still plan on billing them for the accumulated usage. So you would need to keep track of which item to delete and perform that action after the billing cycle when the usage resets.

late void Mar 25, 2024, 5:01 PM

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hmm, that seems less than ideal 🙂

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why wouldnt the subscription item just be turned off and then when billing time comes around that usage be added to the bill?

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 5:03 PM

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I don't know the exact reasoning but my interpretation would be that the SI represents the item to be billed at the end of the billing cycle. Deleting it would remove that source of data. That would explain why we require you to clear the usage if you want to do it.

late void Mar 25, 2024, 5:04 PM

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is there a way to bill the usage immediatley then, before clearing it?

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 5:06 PM

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You could create a one-off Invoice item for the cost of the usage so far. Then delete and clear the usage on the Subscription Item. You could generate a one-off invoice. But that might be a pain to reconcile with the Subscription itself in your financial reporting.

late void Mar 25, 2024, 5:07 PM

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yea in general keeping track of what to delete then doing it at end of the billing cycle is pretty painful

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im just suprised this is not somethign other customers are seeing as odd. I would think u give the option to not clear usage, just bill it at end of billing cycle...

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 5:08 PM

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I guess. But metered usage prices only bill for recorded usage. So just not creating any new usage records has the effect of not charging the Customer for the item

late void Mar 25, 2024, 5:09 PM

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it does, but the customer wants to see what subscriptions they have

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so now i have to have a mechanism to not show them this subscription even though its active in the system

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the system being stripe

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 5:11 PM

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just bill it at end of billing cycle
I think that is what we need the Subscription Item in order to do

late void Mar 25, 2024, 5:11 PM

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yea but you would think u would bill the subscriptiion items which have been deactivated

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at the end of the billing cycle as well

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and for those who dont want to do that, they would be the ones needing to clear usage with this flag

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 5:13 PM

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What I am saying is, if we delete the Subscription Item that is related to the Usage Records, we would not have the data to know how much to bill the Customer at the end of the billing period.

Becuase the existence of that Subscription Item is where we get that data from.

late void Mar 25, 2024, 5:15 PM

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yea, shouldnt hard delete the subscription item, soft delete it, until the next billing cycle is over then hard delete. Usage happened, if someone cancels a usage based subscription i dont think many people want to say, hey even though you used this much this month, we dont want to charge you.

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 5:16 PM

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True. I can raise this as a feature request for our billng APIs. I don't know if/when the team will be able to consider it but I can make your interest in the feature known

late void Mar 25, 2024, 5:16 PM

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please do, it seems like a reasonable request

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 5:23 PM

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Filed

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If you wish to be kept up to date regarding this request you can write in to Support asking to be informed of any updates: https://support.stripe.com/contact

However, once again, I cannot guarantee if this feature will be selected for development

late void Mar 25, 2024, 5:28 PM

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thanks

silver saddle Mar 25, 2024, 5:31 PM

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Happy to shed what 💡 I can 🙂

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