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You can create it without client secret, but you need to pass an amount in that scenario: https://stripe.com/docs/payments/accept-a-payment-deferred
So you always need options
Okay. I am setting up future payments right now:
https://stripe.com/docs/payments/save-and-reuse?platform=web&ui=elements
Should I always create a setup intent before the payment element has been loaded? So that I can get its client secret?