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slim marlinBOT Sep 19, 2023, 4:53 PM

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potent mantle Sep 19, 2023, 4:56 PM

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@nimble anvil I don't really get it. If you use Apple Pay on your own before Checkout then this is completely unrelated to Checkout right? Are you saying you basically want to build your own payment flow specifically for Apple Pay?

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nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 4:57 PM

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I don't have apple pay setup currently

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I use stripe tax and stripe checkout currently which means the flow is product page > stripe checkout > completed purchase

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what I want to do is product page (apple pay here) > complete transaction

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but I use stripe tax for taxes which seems to be the limitation here on making this possible(?)

potent mantle Sep 19, 2023, 5:01 PM

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why wouldn't you put ApplePay on Checkout instead?

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 5:01 PM

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because I want to make it easier for someone to checkout

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so moving the purchase to the product page would increase conversion

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its a common e-commerce flow

potent mantle Sep 19, 2023, 5:02 PM

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Would https://stripe.com/docs/payments/accept-a-payment?platform=web&ui=embedded-checkout help? It's a beta we have right now to embed Checkout straight on your website

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 5:05 PM

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This is a replacement for using Stripe hosted checkout

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let me re-explain the flow

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Currently: product page > user clicks add to cart > user lands on stripe hosted checkout > user can enter payment details and complete transaction

New: product page > user has the option to add to cart or buy with apple pay:

if apple pay, user completes the transaction on this page
if add to cart, user completes the transaction in the stripe hosted checkout session

potent mantle Sep 19, 2023, 5:07 PM

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Sorry sorry I'm trying to be clear that doing what you want is days if not weeks of work so I was trying to save you all the hassle

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I would recommend never doing this "oh let's do a custom flow just for Apple Pay" because this is going to be an extreme pain to build compared to just using Checkout

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 5:07 PM

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Constraints: I use stripe tax to calculate taxes and need the tax to be recorded by stripe in the tax dashboard so I can keep track of taxes

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Fair enough

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I just want to understand if this is even possible with how I am using stripe

potent mantle Sep 19, 2023, 5:08 PM

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Now with all of that said I can tell you what to do at least, was just trying to nudge you away from even attempting

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I mean it's possible, but you have to build most of this entirely yourself. It's a completely different path from what you already use

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 5:09 PM

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How would stripe apple pay work with stripe tax?

potent mantle Sep 19, 2023, 5:10 PM

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https://stripe.com/docs/tax/calculating You're going to have to do your own calculation yourself with that API. There's nothing "built in" outside of Checkout really
And it's really complex with Apple Pay since you don't get the real/full address until after someone gets the "payment sheet" and validates it so you have to use https://stripe.com/docs/stripe-js/elements/payment-request-button

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 5:12 PM

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Okay, so hypothetically if I did calculate the tax myself with the API would that show up in the stripe tax dashboard?

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I currently export the stripe tax CSV to keep track of taxes across transactions so I would need this reporting to exist for the apple pay transactions as well

potent mantle Sep 19, 2023, 5:14 PM

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it's complex, there's no real "link" between the tax calculation and the payment, so exports/reporting would work differently, but yes the tax transaction would show

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but again I'd never do that if I were you

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 5:15 PM

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would work differently as in would still work or they would not work

potent mantle Sep 19, 2023, 5:16 PM

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I know ~nothing about reporting I'm sorry. The info would be there, just it wouldn't be linked the same way to a payment for example

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 5:18 PM

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interesting

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Okay so I understand that you are strongly recommending against this and I hear that

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But to summarize, this is entirely possible to do (implementing apple pay via stripe on the page preceding the stripe checkout page), I can still use stripe tax to calculate tax (but this would happen post apple pay purchase and then I would need to figure out how to match up that tax calculation with a payment?)

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Actually could you provide some clarity on how stripe tax would work with stripe apple pay?

potent mantle Sep 19, 2023, 5:22 PM

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there's nothing specific to Apple Pay at all really. You use PaymentRequestButton, get a PaymentMethod or similar and then calculate tax with billing details on it and other info and then charge that card

slim marlinBOT Sep 19, 2023, 5:29 PM

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nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 5:44 PM

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does the tax calculation happen while the apple pay modal is out

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or what are the details with the ordering of events there?

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 5:46 PM

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👋 stepping in as koopajah needed to step away

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You are asking about using the custom tax calculation flow that we discuss here: https://stripe.com/docs/tax/custom ?

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As in using Stripe Tax without Invoices/Subscriptions or Stripe Checkout ?

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 5:56 PM

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I am using stripe checkout currently, but I would like to add an apple pay button to my website in a "custom flow" but still use stripe tax

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 5:58 PM

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Gotcha so you need to have the address to calculate tax in this flow.

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So mostly depends on whether you are relying on collecting that address during the Apple Pay modal

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Or beforehand

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 6:02 PM

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for new users I would not have their address but for existing users I would

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So is there a way to run the tax calculation after the user shares their shipping information in the case that I don't have their address?

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 6:04 PM

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Yep for sure, this would just happen after the PaymentMethod collection via Apple Pay though

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Err sorry that's incorrect.

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Yes you do this during

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You would basically hit your server to then calculate tax

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We indicate how to do this here: https://stripe.com/docs/stripe-js/elements/payment-request-button?client=html#html-js-collecting-shipping-info

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Where you would use the shippingaddresschange event

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 6:06 PM

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and I can use stripe tax to calculate the tax manually as Koopajah said above and return that tax value to the apple pay modal?

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reading that rn

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 6:06 PM

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Yep

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 6:12 PM

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So I am able to trigger an API request to get a tax cost whenever a customer changes or adds shipping information (in the cases that a customer has shipping but changes it or doesn't have shipping and adds it)

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 6:13 PM

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Yep

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 6:14 PM

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Okay, and because this is critical for me I want to double down -- since I currently use stripe checkout with stripe tax, all the tax is handled by stripe and presented to me in the stripe tax dashboard

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since I will be using stripe tax on my own, will the tax amounts still be reflected in the stripe tax dashboard (I just might need to do some work to corroborate the apple pay payments with the stripe tax amounts?

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 6:15 PM

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Yep

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We aren't Dashboard experts (we focus on the API) but as far as I know the same stuff is shown in the Dashboard

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 6:17 PM

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Okay sounds good, thanks!

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 6:17 PM

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Sure thing

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 6:18 PM

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One more question here, how is shippingaddresschange triggered from the platformpaybutton

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or where's the specific documentation on how to handle a shippingaddresschange

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 6:19 PM

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PlatformPayButton? That is a React Native component

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Are you using React Native?

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I assume you are using web here?

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 6:19 PM

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yeah, I am using both web and react native

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 6:21 PM

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Okay yeah there are event listeners with React Native like there are on web

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The React Native guide is here: https://stripe.com/docs/apple-pay?platform=react-native

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 6:28 PM

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Where does it talk about event listeners here? sorry just trying to square that away

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 6:29 PM

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Ah so sorry

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I meant aren't

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Typo my bad

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 6:31 PM

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So is there any way to request stripe tax then?

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or how do I trigger a shippingaddresschange event then in react native

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Yeah give me a sec to refresh on how to handle this with React Native

nimble anvil Sep 19, 2023, 6:34 PM

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thanks, appreciate it

wheat osprey Sep 19, 2023, 6:43 PM

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Okay yeah there is a callback that I forgot about

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https://stripe.dev/stripe-react-native/api-reference/interfaces/PlatformPayButtonProps.html#onShippingMethodSelected

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Oh wait that is for shipping method

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https://stripe.dev/stripe-react-native/api-reference/interfaces/PlatformPayButtonProps.html#onShippingContactSelected

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That is the one you want

slim marlinBOT Sep 19, 2023, 6:48 PM

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