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crude mothBOT Aug 23, 2023, 4:27 PM

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restive timber Aug 23, 2023, 4:27 PM

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Hello there

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There isn't really an example of this that I know of but also that isn't really a flow you should be doing... you would just set the payment method up for future use via the PaymentIntent.

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Can you tell me more about what you are trying to do?

young yew Aug 23, 2023, 4:29 PM

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Hi bismarck, our customers would make a first payment and we'd use their payment information to charge for future monthly payments.

restive timber Aug 23, 2023, 4:32 PM

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Great so yeah you don't need a SetupIntent in this case.

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Which integration flow are you using here?

young yew Aug 23, 2023, 4:38 PM

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To complete the description of our need, we'd use Pre-Authorized Debit payments which require Mandates. To simplify the workflow, we'd like to have a single Mandate to include the deposit payment and the monthly payments. As far as I know, the only way to have a Mandate to aggregate many types of payments is through SetupIntents. Am I right?

restive timber Aug 23, 2023, 4:41 PM

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Nope you should be able to do this via a PaymentIntent too. You pass those necessary mandate fields in payment_method_options.accss_debit.mandate_options (https://stripe.com/docs/api/payment_intents/create#create_payment_intent-payment_method_options-acss_debit-mandate_options) and pass setup_future_usage

young yew Aug 23, 2023, 4:49 PM

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How would you specify a one-shot payment PLUS recurrent monthly payments in that mandate via a setup_future_usage?

restive timber Aug 23, 2023, 4:53 PM

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Ah one sec let me double check

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I thought you could use payment_schedule: combined but actually that might not work if you are using Subscriptions here

young yew Aug 23, 2023, 5:00 PM

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The reason I first mentioned about SetupIntent is because of the following example: https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/acss-debit#save-payment-method-for-future-subscriptions

restive timber Aug 23, 2023, 5:00 PM

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Yep

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It definitely does work with a SetupIntent, I just thought that you could do this flow with a PaymentIntent.

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But I could be wrong and we just didn't build it this way.

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I'm double checking with a colleague.

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Give me a minute

crude mothBOT Aug 23, 2023, 5:16 PM

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mighty sapphire Aug 23, 2023, 5:34 PM

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👋 hopping in here since bismarck has to head out, but they shared all the state they had - it looks like you do have to use a setup intent for this

young yew Aug 23, 2023, 5:36 PM

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Fine, then can you tell me how to do a setup intent and a first payment in the same customer transaction?

mighty sapphire Aug 23, 2023, 5:42 PM

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Will this first payment be as part of a subscription, or just a one-off?

young yew Aug 23, 2023, 5:47 PM

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Just a one-off: its a deposit to be followed by recurrent payments. Like I said earlier, we'd use Pre-Authorized Debit payments which require Mandates. To simplify the workflow, we'd like to have a single Mandate to include the deposit payment and the monthly payments. As far as I know, the only way to have a Mandate to aggregate many types of payments is through setup intents.

mighty sapphire Aug 23, 2023, 5:50 PM

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Thanks for clarifying! So yeah you'd use the instructions specified at https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/acss-debit#save-payment-method-for-future-subscriptions to create + confirm a SetupIntent. Once that's done you'll haev a Payment Method and Mandate ID that you can use to create + confirm a Payment Intent (following these instructions https://stripe.com/docs/payments/acss-debit/set-up-payment?platform=web#charge-later)

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If you'd prefer to use a one-off Invoice to colelct your deposit that would also work as well

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