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earnest basaltBOT Jul 13, 2023, 2:48 PM

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coarse pollen Jul 13, 2023, 2:48 PM

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Can you explain more about exactly what you're trying to do?

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what does this mean?

with off platform payments

azure turret Jul 13, 2023, 2:50 PM

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Hi there, I have a BE that provides a setup intent secret to FE, then the FE creates payment method with PaymentElement & confirmSetup method and then calls the BE to execute the payment

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Its working with Card, and I need to include UK Direct Debit functionality to it too

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I've been looking at this docs here - https://stripe.com/docs/payments/bacs-debit/save-bank-details

Save Bacs Direct Debit bank details

Learn how to use Checkout to save payment method details for future Bacs Direct Debit payments.

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but this only mentions complete stripe checkout, rather then PaymentElement

coarse pollen Jul 13, 2023, 3:00 PM

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This is not currently supported

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https://stripe.com/docs/payments/payment-methods/integration-options#support-bank-debits

Payment method integration options

Learn about the different ways to integrate payment methods.

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Note the footnote 2 here

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Payment Element cannot be used to create SetupIntents for Bacs Direct Debit. Use Checkout with setup mode instead.

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then calls the BE to execute the payment
However, if you're taking payment immediately afterwards, you should not use a setup intent, but rather a payment intent with setup_future_usage
https://stripe.com/docs/payments/save-during-payment

Save payment details during payment

Learn how to save payment details during a payment.

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If you do SetupIntent then a PaymentIntent with a card, you risk hitting a "double 3ds" flow for your customer

azure turret Jul 13, 2023, 3:06 PM

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I might be wrong, but PaymentElements says it supports Uk Direct Debits?

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Ah, I see what you mean about the note

coarse pollen Jul 13, 2023, 3:07 PM

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It does, yes, for payments

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not for setup without payment

azure turret Jul 13, 2023, 3:08 PM

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Final question, is it possible at all to configure the order in which payment methods are shown with elements

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Actually, the reason for using SetupIntents instead of PaymentIntents is because of trial offerings, does that mean that Direct Debits and trials are incompatiable as of now?

coarse pollen Jul 13, 2023, 3:17 PM

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For that you'd need to defer payment method collection if not using checkout, because you wouldnt be able to confirm the pending_setup_intent

coarse pollen Jul 13, 2023, 3:17 PM

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azure turret Final question, is it possible at all to configure the order in which payment me...

Yes!

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paymentMethodOrder lets you specify with one(s) you want to come first:
https://stripe.com/docs/js/elements_object/create_payment_element#payment_element_create-options-paymentMethodOrder

azure turret Jul 13, 2023, 3:18 PM

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coarse pollen `paymentMethodOrder` lets you specify with one(s) you want to come first: https:...

Okay, thats handy in case I manage to figure it out

azure turret Jul 13, 2023, 3:20 PM

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coarse pollen For that you'd need to defer payment method collection if not using checkout, be...

I dont think I got that sorry

coarse pollen Jul 13, 2023, 3:29 PM

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With a trial or non-payment subscription, you'd have a setup intent to confirm, and that wont be possible specificall with bacs+payment element

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If you need to handle a non-payment collection of Bacs, that can currently only be done via Checkout

#redberry95