Peter Boyd | Stripe Developers | Page 1

lyric pikeBOT May 31, 2023, 5:10 PM

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wheat oyster May 31, 2023, 5:10 PM

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Hi there

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Nope, no limit.

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 5:10 PM

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hey

wheat oyster May 31, 2023, 5:10 PM

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Only thing you need to be aware of would be rate limits when creating Products

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 5:11 PM

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currently we aren't cataloging our products in Stripe but we're considering it

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ah interesting

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We'd like to switch to the Checkout flow instead of doing custom payment intents

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and we're looking into whether we should catalog all of our products in Stripe or if we should create "price_data" line items on the fly just prior to the creation of the Checkout Session

wheat oyster May 31, 2023, 5:12 PM

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Yeah really up to you.

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Either works fine

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 5:13 PM

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Our concern is that if we use "price_data", we won't be able to create coupons for the products

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whereas if we catalog all of our items as Products, we can obvious create a coupon and use the "applies_to" field to apply discounts on individual items or Product Classes

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What would you recommend as best practice?

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Our business is basically a marketplace like eBay

wheat oyster May 31, 2023, 5:16 PM

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This mostly just depends on where you want to manage your catalogue as you noted.

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You can either manage it all from your database and then use price_data and just keep track of the coupons in your database as well

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Or you can catalogue within Stripe

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I wouldn't really say one is better than the other -- it is mostly just preference

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 5:18 PM

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Yeah, sounds like the trade-off is the heavier dev lift to catalog all products and keep them in sync vs not syncing products but managing the coupons and promo_codes and handling the coupon logic on our end prior to the checkout session

wheat oyster May 31, 2023, 5:19 PM

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Yep I agree with that

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 5:19 PM

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ok got it. makes perfect sense.

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thank you!

wheat oyster May 31, 2023, 5:20 PM

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Sure!

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 5:23 PM

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One more question sorry. We grant customers the ability to "trade" items with one side of the transaction offering cash optionally. I.e. I trade you my soccer ball for your basketball and give you $10 in cash the deal

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in the deal*

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in order to do this, our thoughts are that we would generate a "free" price for the products in the trade, then create a "price_data" line-item which is just "cash" with the appropriate amount

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Is there a better way to accomplish this?

royal dew May 31, 2023, 5:24 PM

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👋 hopping in here since bismarck has to head out soon

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 5:24 PM

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hey awesome

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so the scenario is

I give you items A + B + $10

You give me items C + D

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if A, B, C, and D are all Stripe Products that have prices greater than zero, how would we properly reflect this during the checkout session?

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if I'm going through the checkout session, I am purchasing "C + D" for $10

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sorry if this is confusing, I can clarify more if so

royal dew May 31, 2023, 5:28 PM

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Quick clarification - what do you mean when you say A,B,C, and D all have prices greater than zero? If these are trades wouldn't you want these products to be $0?

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 5:29 PM

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yes they will be $0 at the time of trade, but lets say they have prices prior to the trade

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lets say I list all of my items for $5 and you list all of your items for $5

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if I want to trade you some of your items + $10 for some of my items, I'm not necessary paying the listed price for each item

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typically it's a cash price that is less than the list price of the items

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is there a way to add the items as line items, but set a custom price during the checkout flow?

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so if item A and B have a price of $20

and C and D have a price of $20

could I initiate a trade with you like this:

I give you:

[{
price: A.price_id,
price_amount: 0,
}, {
price: B.price_id,
price_amount: 0,
}, {
price_data: {
name: 'Cash',
unit_amount: 10,
}
}]

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and you give me:

[{
price: C.price_id,
price_amount: 0,
}, {
price: D.price_id,
price_amount: 0,
}

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this being psuedocode, I know the format for the objects is differnet

royal dew May 31, 2023, 5:36 PM

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So there's no way to specify a price ID and give it a custom amount for that checkout sessions, but some alternatives would be:

Pass in a discount when creating the Checkout Session (https://stripe.com/docs/api/checkout/sessions/create#create_checkout_session-discounts)
Do a new custom one-off price for $0

Stripe API reference – Create a Checkout Session – curl

Complete reference documentation for the Stripe API. Includes code snippets and examples for our Python, Java, PHP, Node.js, Go, Ruby, and .NET libraries.

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 5:36 PM

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got it, thanks

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thats what I was thinking

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ok great I think that's all the help I need

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very much appreicate your hlep

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help

royal dew May 31, 2023, 5:37 PM

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👍

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 6:22 PM

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Hey still there?

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One more scenario just occurred to us, this is a bit easier

royal dew May 31, 2023, 6:24 PM

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👋

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feel free to ask here!

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 6:24 PM

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If a customer uses a promo code for an item that is being sold by another user on the marketplace, is there a way we can apply the discount for the buyer, but still pay full price to the seller?

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i.e. the buyer has a 10% off promo code,

the seller lists item for $100

The buyer pays $90 in the checkout session, but we still transfer $100 to the seller.

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where the $10 comes out of our Stripe business account

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is this possible?

royal dew May 31, 2023, 6:30 PM

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Yes, this is definitely possible

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You would just have to do this with separate charges and transfers, and not destination charges that set transfer_data

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https://stripe.com/docs/connect/charges-transfers

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Basically, once the Checkout Session is complete you'd make an API call to create a Transfer for the amount you choose

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 6:33 PM

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oh interesting

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so the checkout session would still move the $90

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but the $10 would be completely separate? like a separate payment_intent?

royal dew May 31, 2023, 6:34 PM

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Actually let's pause for a quick second - are you currently using connect? I assumed you were based on what you said, but realize I never checked

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 6:34 PM

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right now we use connect as in the sellers have to create a Connect account

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but the buyers use their "customer_id" and we create a Payment Intent

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but for item purchases, we aren't currently applying promo codes, so we don't have to worry about this use case

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We would like to switch to Stripe Checkout instead of custom Payment Intents

royal dew May 31, 2023, 6:35 PM

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are you currently doing direct charges or destination charges?

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 6:35 PM

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destination charges

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        customer: buyer.stripeCustomerId,
        transfer_data: {
          destination: seller.stripeAccountId as string,
          amount: subtotalCents - appFeeCents
        },

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this is how we're doing it now

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and we set an amount using

amount: subtotalCents + transactionFeeCents,

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when we apply a promo code, we'd like the seller to still receive the full amount. our Stripe Account will cover the difference

royal dew May 31, 2023, 6:38 PM

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Perfect

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So what I'm recommending is that you don't set transfer_data at all anymore. You just create a normal PaymentIntent, and then you can seaprate create a Transfer (which is what send the funds to the seller account)

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 6:41 PM

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Ah, so a Transfer is different from a payment intent

royal dew May 31, 2023, 6:41 PM

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yup!

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 6:41 PM

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got it

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so we'd create the transfer after receiving the webhook that the Checkout Session was successful

royal dew May 31, 2023, 6:42 PM

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yup!

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 6:44 PM

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ok I think you solved it for us.

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thank you once again!

royal dew May 31, 2023, 6:44 PM

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happy to help! (and definitely test all that separate charges/transfers stuff in test mode first just to make sure you don't hit any snags)

prisma ore May 31, 2023, 6:45 PM

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yup absolutely

#Peter Boyd