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delicate swanBOT May 31, 2023, 8:20 AM

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subtle iris May 31, 2023, 8:21 AM

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Hi! Let me help you with this.

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You can use the existing account ID.

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 8:21 AM

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yea.... how do i even get that?

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do u think the onboarding party will be able to provide that to me?

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what do u mean by the existing account ID?

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there are 2 scenarios:

onboarding party (OP) does not have a stripe account
OP already has a stripe account (then i end up with TWO (2) accounts.... 🤦)

how to handle #2 properly?

subtle iris May 31, 2023, 8:31 AM

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You will need to use OAuth: https://stripe.com/docs/connect/oauth-standard-accounts

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 8:35 AM

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subtle iris You will need to use OAuth: <https://stripe.com/docs/connect/oauth-standard-acco...

can i get my client_id from API?

subtle iris May 31, 2023, 8:36 AM

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It must be somewhere in your Dashboard.

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 8:44 AM

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subtle iris You will need to use OAuth: <https://stripe.com/docs/connect/oauth-standard-acco...

using this, i can't choose my existing accounts.. it only shows my MAIN account

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i got

COMPANY SELLER
COMPANY BUYER
INDIVIDUAL BUYER

i'm using #1's client_id, stripe only let me pick #1's account... why i can't choose #2 and #3???

subtle iris May 31, 2023, 8:48 AM

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Sorry, where do you see this list?

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 8:49 AM

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i have this list of my own

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https://connect.stripe.com/oauth/authorize?response_type=code&client_id=ca_Nzk3AbY0EabAZ2r3hztL0BeEgqAnrbnG&scope=read_write

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how do i connect with any random account? it gives me a list to pick from which doesn't include 2 and 3... OR create a new account..............................

how do i provide another account that already exists?

subtle iris May 31, 2023, 8:58 AM

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Okay, that's the list of your accounts. You say "why i can't choose ..." What prevents you from choosing another account? Could you please share a screenshot?

subtle iris May 31, 2023, 8:58 AM

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gleaming girder https://connect.stripe.com/oauth/authorize?response_type=code&client_id=ca_Nzk3A...

I see my accounts when I open the link.

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 8:59 AM

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yea.. why should i see my accounts? i'm trying to ONBOARD a 3rd party

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are you CERTAIN OAUTH is the solution to my problem?

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can you rephrase my problem back to me?

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what is my problem?

subtle iris May 31, 2023, 9:06 AM

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Yes, when you send this link to someone you want to onboard they will see their accounts.

delicate swanBOT May 31, 2023, 9:08 AM

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fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:09 AM

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👋 taking over for my colleague. Let me know if there's any follow-up Qs I can answer!

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:09 AM

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can u go thru the conversation please?

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i'm still at square 1

fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:09 AM

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can you please sum it up?

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:09 AM

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gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:10 AM

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fresh dawn can you please sum it up?

to call ->accountLinks->create(), an $account_id is a must.... so i'm forced to find and create an account, but if onboarding party already has an account, then i end up with forcefully created new account + onboard party's existing account........ why like that?

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u have trouble reading?

fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:11 AM

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you can retrieve the account ID of your user, I don't see the problem

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:11 AM

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hmm

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ok

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user comes onto my platform.. i have no idea whether he/she has stripe or not, correct?

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user wants to use stripe, i still have no idea whether he/she has stripe or not, correct?

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how do i know what is user's account id? why can't i just redirect user to stripe, they login, then stripe redirect back to me... then i have all the info i need... why force me to provide account_id before redirecting to stripe?

fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:13 AM

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when you see user you mean a customer or a merchant?

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:13 AM

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merchant... i'm talking about ONBOARDING for CONNECTED..... multiparty

fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:13 AM

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ok

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in that case you have 2 options:
1- the merchant doesn't have a Stripe Account and you would create one for them
2- they have a Standard Stripe Account and you do OAuth

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:26 AM

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fresh dawn in that case you have 2 options: 1- the merchant doesn't have a Stripe Account a...

well, how do i know if they have a stripe account or not??? isn't there a single point to redirect.. and stripe figures out if they have an account???

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what if they say they don't have an account, but suddenly remember they have an account after seeing the stripe login page................. we are back at square 1 aren't we?

fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:27 AM

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no, this is why we recommend always creating a new Express Account and not go through OAuth at all

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:27 AM

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i want to use STANDARD account

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where did you recommend Express?

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in your Stripe UI, u recommend STANDARD (recommended)

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i need merchant to have full stripe dashboard

fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:28 AM

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could you please share where did you get this statement for?

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:28 AM

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express can do it?

fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:28 AM

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you can have a dashboard in Express

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it really depends on your needs

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:29 AM

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don't tell me depends, i told u i want standard... that's what ur colleague told me.. full dashboard = standard

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:30 AM

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fresh dawn could you please share where did you get this statement for?

............................. who should i trust now??????????????????????????????????????

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EVERYBODY KEEP TELLING ME DIFFERENT THING..............

fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:33 AM

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as I said before, we recommend using Express accounts, but depending on your needs you would either want to use Custom or Standard.

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Express accounts offers an easier ("express") onboarding experience

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amongst other benefits, I'm not going to dive deep in

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:34 AM

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so.. how do u onboard a customer using express?

fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:34 AM

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but if you prefer Standard then be it

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:34 AM

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let's not digress...

fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:34 AM

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gleaming girder so.. how do u onboard a customer using express?

https://stripe.com/docs/connect/express-accounts

Using Connect with Express accounts

Express enables your platform to manage payout schedules, customize the flow of funds, and control branding. Stripe will handle onboarding, account management, and identity verification for your platform.

fresh dawn May 31, 2023, 9:34 AM

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gleaming girder let's not digress...

yes please let's not

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:34 AM

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to call ->accountLinks->create(), an $account_id is a must.... so i'm forced to find and create an account, but if onboarding party already has an account, then i end up with forcefully created new account + onboard party's existing account........ why like that?

my problem remains, and no solution in sight

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don't paste me ur docs please... they are practically useless... i have to trial and error everything myself

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can i use express if merchant already has a stripe account?
what happens if merchant does not have stripe account yet?

weary timber May 31, 2023, 9:38 AM

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but if onboarding party already has an account, then i end up with forcefully created new account + onboard party's existing account........ why like that?
because that's how we designed it, and it means that a platform only has information about the account's transactions it's actually involved in, instead of having access to all the transactions on the user's account, so it's better from a data privacy perspective. Does your use case require you to have access to existing transactions on the account or transaction not initiated by your platform?

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1/ yes. It creates a new Express account for them
2/ it creates a new Express account for them

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:39 AM

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my problem is: i end up with TWO (2) accounts when i'm trying to onboard only ONE (1) account....

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why are we talking about full access to all transactions?

weary timber May 31, 2023, 9:40 AM

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can you give me an example of a specific case where you got two accounts and share the two account IDs acct_xxx?

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:40 AM

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WAIT

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this is my code, quite straightforward, i redirect the merchant to $response->url

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can follow?

weary timber May 31, 2023, 9:42 AM

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yes.

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:43 AM

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if merchant logs in with existing stripe account, i get 2 accounts showing up in my "Connected" tab because of line 84, which created an account... how do i prevent 2 accounts, when i only want 1 from the merchant

that is the problem i'm trying to solve

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i was forced to do line 84 because of line 87 won't run without it...

weary timber May 31, 2023, 9:45 AM

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are you using OAuth as well before you run this code? Is that what you mean by "the merchant logs in with existing stripe account"?

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:45 AM

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i'm not using oauth

weary timber May 31, 2023, 9:46 AM

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then it should not be the case that you get two accounts, I can't see how that would happen. can you give me an example of a specific case where you got two accounts and share the two account IDs acct_xxx?

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:46 AM

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wait.. i run the code now.

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i want to show u that my account has no connect accounts now... how do i get u an ID or something?

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weary timber May 31, 2023, 9:50 AM

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https://stripe.com/docs/dashboard/basics#find-account-id

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:54 AM

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my account id is acct_1NDiK82fsxmSaiRG

weary timber May 31, 2023, 9:55 AM

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ok.

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 9:58 AM

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i finished logging in with another account, now i see 1 account... but i was definitely getting 2 accounts eariler

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i'm going to delete all connected accounts and try 1 more time

weary timber May 31, 2023, 10:02 AM

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let me know if you get an example of 2 being created.

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 10:03 AM

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ok

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side track, why do i keep getting extra entries in my account top left corner? it's crazily confusing... suddenly i can't find entries because of it

weary timber May 31, 2023, 10:07 AM

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because that is what is meant by https://support.stripe.com/questions/legal-entity-sharing , which I think I've shared with you before

Legal Entity Sharing : Stripe: Help & Support

Find help and support for Stripe. Our support center provides answers on all types of situations, including account information, charges and refunds, and subscriptions information. Get your questions answered and find international support for Stripe.

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When you onboard with Platform B, use the same email address to create the account.

You will be prompted to link an existing Stripe account or add a new Stripe account.

To share your legal entity, click to “link an existing Stripe account.”

Upon completion, two Stripe accounts will appear under the toggle menu in the top left hand corner of your Stripe Dashboard.

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so if you are visiting these AccountLinks you create in your browser while logged into your own Stripe account and using your own credentials, what you are doing is "claiming" the connected account for your own Stripe user, and it gets associated with your user and show up in that menu.

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A cleaner way to test can be to use a separate browser entirely logged into some other separate Stripe account, and only visit AccountLinks in that browser.

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 10:10 AM

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weary timber A cleaner way to test can be to use a separate browser entirely logged into some...

yes, i just did this and i saw the line 84 account disappear and replaced with line 87's account

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thanks

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let me get this right

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 10:14 AM

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gleaming girder this is my code, quite straightforward, i redirect the merchant to `$response->u...

on line 84, a random acc_xxxxx is created, suppose the user doesn't complete the stripe webpage and just shutdowns.... how do i clean up these acc_xxxxx?

weary timber May 31, 2023, 10:15 AM

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you don't have to, you can just ignore them. I'm not sure you can delete them even.

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 10:16 AM

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then will i be able to reliably determine who is connected to me?

weary timber May 31, 2023, 10:16 AM

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you can read some details of the connected account using the Accounts API yes

gleaming girder May 31, 2023, 10:17 AM

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ok thanks

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