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scarlet zincBOT May 17, 2023, 10:12 PM

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queen sparrow May 17, 2023, 10:13 PM

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Can you rephrase your question? I'm not sure what you mean by "invoice with other than zero charge"

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:13 PM

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ok

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Customer is purchasing a subscription, he has no money in his card and stripe charges it to his credit. Good until here ?

queen sparrow May 17, 2023, 10:15 PM

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What do you mean by "stripe charges it to his credit"? Are you just talking about a regular credit card and the charge to create the subscription goes through successfully?

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:15 PM

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I mean stripe ballance

scarlet zincBOT May 17, 2023, 10:15 PM

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elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:16 PM

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kanohian-subscription-payment

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:16 PM

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he has no money for billing now, wo stripe charges the price to his ballance in order to charge it in next invoice

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isn't?

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:17 PM

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You create a Subscription for say $10/month. Every month, an Invoice is created for $10 and we try to charge their card on file. If they have no money, the payment is declined and there's a payment failure on the Invoice and after N failed payments we cancel the Subscription

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:18 PM

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so, cost never charges to customer ballance instead?

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when purchasing subscription I mean

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:24 PM

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There's https://stripe.com/docs/billing/customer/balance if that's what you mean? But you would have had to put some credit there first

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:25 PM

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in that case

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what happens with the customer latest_invoice ?

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:26 PM

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In what case?

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:27 PM

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ok let me ask my real question

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I need to grab one subscription cost after coupons/promocodes

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problem is sometimes, when purchasing one subscription, its latest invoice is zero

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since it seems that subscription charges to customer ballance to be billed in next invoice

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so, how can I get this subscription cost after discounts, independently of its latest invoice

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:30 PM

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I'm sorry I don't really understand any of this

restive kayak May 17, 2023, 10:30 PM

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create your own billing system server side

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:30 PM

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A "Subscription cost" depends on a lot of factors. You can look at the latest invoice, or you can use the Retrieve Upcoming Invoice API https://stripe.com/docs/api/invoices/upcoming
I'm struggling to grasp what you are trying to calculate and what having no money on your card has to do with it

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:30 PM

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I need to grab one subscription final cost(after all discounts, taxes, etcc)

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:31 PM

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that's what the Invoice API is here for

restive kayak May 17, 2023, 10:32 PM

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Correct, their APIs can return the data you need to develop your predicted outcome

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:33 PM

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latest_invoice will give you the already paid invoice

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and the incoming invoice any pending payment

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mmmh

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so if subscription costs 100 and customer had only 80

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latest invoice will have 80 and upcoming invoice 20 ?

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:34 PM

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what does that mean "had only 80". Had only 80 where? In their bank account? On their credit card? Or in your own credit balance locally that you maintain?

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:35 PM

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credit card

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:35 PM

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The Subscription cost $100. The Invoice is for $100. The customer only has $80 in their bank account => The $100 payment fails completely

restive kayak May 17, 2023, 10:36 PM

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Correct

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You cannot hold unavailable funds for the fulla mount

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:38 PM

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problem was, when testing subscription purchase sometimes latest_invoice was zero

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in thosecases, the amount was charged as debit and included in the upcoming invoice

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any idea when does this might happen ?

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:41 PM

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It's really hard to say. I'm sorry, we have been speaking for a while and al of it has been really cryptic 😦

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:41 PM

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yes, my bad

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:41 PM

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An Invoice can be $0 for a lot of reasons, past credit balance, coupons, proration, $0 Price, etc.

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:41 PM

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right there

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in those cases

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(assume price is not zero)

restive kayak May 17, 2023, 10:42 PM

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Maybe create test script to show error and Git it

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:43 PM

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past credit balance, coupons, proration, should I check upcoming invoice as well ?

restive kayak May 17, 2023, 10:43 PM

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use some new test api creds too

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:45 PM

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When the amount due on an invoice is less than the minimum chargeable amount the invoice is marked as paid and the amount owed moved to the credit balance as a debit. This functionality only occurs for customers without a cash_balance.

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this is what I was refering to

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:45 PM

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yeah that is when you test with low amount often because you think amount: 30 is $30 USD but it's $0.30 USD

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:45 PM

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with credit

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:46 PM

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that's an edge-case that almost no one ever encounters in production because it's uncommon to have a $0.30/month Price

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:46 PM

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yes

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but it can make the latest invoice zero

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and in consequence, the cost of the subscription would be zero

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:47 PM

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yes that's all entirely expected

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:47 PM

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exactly

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so

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is there a way of obtaining the final cost of the subscription regardless all these stuff

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:48 PM

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Damn I'm sorry but this is so confusing

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The Subscription has one or multiple Price(s) associated. You can look at the Invoice amounts. There are many separate properties that tell you everything

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:49 PM

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I need a way of getting the final cost without checking the latest_invoice, then the upcomingi invoice if latest_invoice happens to be zero,..

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something like subscription.total

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:50 PM

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The latest Invoice would have that information. Total, subtotal, all the line items, what was added or removed from the credit balance, it's all on the Invoice object: https://stripe.com/docs/api/invoices/object

There is no "total" at a Subscription level.

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:51 PM

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that hurts

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sorry the headache my bro

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:51 PM

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Do you have a concrete example of a Subscription/Invoice in your account?

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:51 PM

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I used to

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:51 PM

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I think it might make things a lot easier/clearer if we both look at the same objects

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:51 PM

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but we migrated and now cant reproduce it

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:51 PM

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😅

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:52 PM

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life is tough

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:52 PM

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I mean you can add credit to a customer balance before creating the Subscription. Or use a Price that is below $0.50 if it's about the credit balance

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:53 PM

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yeah but (An Invoice can be $0 for a lot of reasons, past credit balance, coupons, proration, $0 Price, etc.) adds a lot of work

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should be nice something like subscription.finalCost

elfin vault May 17, 2023, 10:54 PM

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yeah that's fair! But that's not something that exists today unfortunately

molten bear May 17, 2023, 10:59 PM

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okok thanks a lot

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