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glad sapphireBOT May 10, 2023, 10:57 AM

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timid steeple May 10, 2023, 11:00 AM

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I think so with this flow: https://stripe.com/docs/payments/build-a-two-step-confirmation

Build a two-step confirmation experience

Add an optional review page or run validations after a user enters their payment details.

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i.e. use createPaymentMethod with the Payment Element and then create the PI

past iris May 10, 2023, 11:01 AM

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Ah I see, so go through that flow to create the payment method, then make the subsequent MOTO api call with that payment method

timid steeple May 10, 2023, 11:03 AM

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Yes, as you'd pass the pm_xxx to the payment_method parameter when creating your MOTO PI

past iris May 10, 2023, 11:05 AM

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thank you that makes sense

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cheers for the help

timid steeple May 10, 2023, 11:06 AM

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sure, np. Hope it works

past iris May 10, 2023, 11:14 AM

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Do I always have to send an amount through, when collecting the details?

timid steeple May 10, 2023, 11:14 AM

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Can you elaborate?

past iris May 10, 2023, 11:15 AM

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So in this step here, it shows adding the amount, but in my case would I not just want to collect the details, then the amount is determined after in the MOTO call

timid steeple May 10, 2023, 11:16 AM

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Ah, I understand now. Yeah Payment Element requires some concept of a payment before it can be initialised (i.e. currency, amount). I forgot that part, my bad

past iris May 10, 2023, 11:16 AM

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Actually thinking about it I suppose it makes sense in case of insufficient_funds, I was just worried it would charge my customers

timid steeple May 10, 2023, 11:16 AM

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Generally we recommend MOTO flows to use the Card Element

past iris May 10, 2023, 11:17 AM

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Okay cool, is it not possible through the payment element then?

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I should be doing this instead? https://stripe.com/docs/terminal/features/saving-cards/save-cards-directly

Save directly without charging

Save card details for online reuse from an in-person transaction.

timid steeple May 10, 2023, 11:17 AM

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Not without passing some payment parameters, which is counter intuitive I guess

timid steeple May 10, 2023, 11:18 AM

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past iris I should be doing this instead? https://stripe.com/docs/terminal/features/saving...

That's for in-person payments? I thought you were doing MOTO?

past iris May 10, 2023, 11:18 AM

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I am I just re-read it apologies

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I basically want to use MOTO but I want the flexibility of the payment element, for card validation etc

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And obviously I'm not sure if I can collect then charge beforehand because this might trigger 3ds if not flagged as MOTO?

timid steeple May 10, 2023, 11:19 AM

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past iris I basically want to use MOTO but I want the flexibility of the payment element, ...

What aspects of validation?

past iris May 10, 2023, 11:19 AM

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Well everything that the payment element does out the box essentially, expired cvc, insufficent funds etc. I know I can get this all from the API I just was wondering if it was possible

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incorrect card number, expiry date

timid steeple May 10, 2023, 11:21 AM

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expired cvc, insufficent funds etc. I know I can get this all from the API I just was wondering if it was possible
You won't get any of that with the MOTO flow until you try and charge it (i.e. after you've completed the form)

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createPaymentMethod just tokenises the card details, there's no card network activity

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Card Element will give you basic luhn check validation and date checks, etc.

past iris May 10, 2023, 11:23 AM

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Ah I see, so using the card element should be fine for collecting the payment method, then can do the MOTO call after

timid steeple May 10, 2023, 11:25 AM

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Correct. I have a MOTO example here with Card Element: https://stripe-tinydemos-moto-payments.glitch.me/

Complete a MOTO payment with Elements

A tinydemo to show how to complete MOTO transactions with the Card Element.

past iris May 10, 2023, 11:28 AM

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thats perfect thank you pal

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