#Sapna Verma
sinful sonnet
Hi
these are an existing pricesId:
https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/create#create_subscription-items-price
or price_data you want to create dynamically:
https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/create#create_subscription-items-price_data
I invite you to check at our official guide, on how to build a Subscription integration:
https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/build-subscriptions
In step 2. you can see how to create/use prices:
https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/build-subscriptions?ui=checkout#create-pricing-model
civic lotus
when a payment is successful, the payment element creates something for success cases?
sinful sonnet
Sorry, I'm not understanding your question? what you mean by "creates something" ?
civic lotus
when some payment is successfully done, what will be the action at iframe?
any success message from stripe?
sinful sonnet
When using Elements, you need to display (success/failure) messages in your website, take a look at this quick start:
https://stripe.com/docs/payments/quickstart
hollow solsticeBOT
civic lotus
if the subscription creating creates a payment, in what cases we use the setupintent and paymentintent, please clarify
sinful sonnet
When creating a Subscription using API, you don't need to use Setup/Payment Intent APIs. just use the Subscription API following the guide I share above.
civic lotus
hello, I dont use Paymentintent and collect the payment through Subscription api....i guess i won't be able to listen to the events like payment_intent.succeeded or payment_intent.failed....right?
how will i handle the successful and failed cases
astral kraken
astral kraken
how will i handle the successful and failed cases
which cases exactly are you referring to? the success and failure of which exact action?
civic lotus
payment action
astral kraken
which payment action?
do you mean the first payment of the subscription, that's done when the customer is signing up for the subscription on your site initially? or some later recurring payment on the subscription?
civic lotus
later recurrring payment
astral kraken
all the information is on https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/webhooks in that case.
civic lotus
In the case of card verification checks, does stripe send the results on the iframe like error on verification etc.
astral kraken
what specifically do you call a "card verification check"?
we do show validation errors in our PaymentElement for example.
astral kraken
those happen when the payment attempt is made
so they come in the Promise from confirmPayment for example, and you would show those in your UI according to our docs
civic lotus
will there be any responses like success/errors somewhere
i am referring to the free Radar
basic Radar that comes free
plaese throw some light on this topic
i use braintree, they charge $1 to the card and thus validates the card.
astral kraken
will there be any responses like success/errors somewhere
as I said, it's in the response of confirming the Intent
you should test it in test mode and it will make more sense.
and yes we do sometimes validate cards with $0/$1 payments (https://support.stripe.com/questions/unexpected-1-charge-on-customers-bank-statement)
civic lotus
i just wanted to know a little think - where the error codes like declined codes be shown --in the iframe itself?
astral kraken
no, they're in the error.message returned from the confirmPayment promise for example, and then you can show them in your page
civic lotus
if the subscription is created and the charge is made using Subscription API, we will listen to the event customer.subscription.created. Which event wll be fired in case of failed payment?
i am not using intents until this point
astral kraken
you must use Intents, that's not optional
astral kraken
if the subscription is created and the charge is made using Subscription API, we...
events are not relevant since, for creation, you would be handling the payment failure in the frontend directly
civic lotus
you must use Intents, that's not optional
--I used subscriptionapi to create a subcription and add a payment method...till then i did not create any intent. or Will i need to create intent for payments
please guide
astral kraken
creating a subscription and passing a paymentmethod directly is legacy and does not support 3D Secure
civic lotus
u mean I must use paymentintent and not subscription api
or both?
I dont see the parameters for recurring option in the payment intent's
api
astral kraken
both
it's all described in the docs, how you create a Subscription and use the PaymentIntent which is returned.
hollow solsticeBOT
sweet cloud
👋 taking over for my colleague. Let me know if there's any follow-up Qs I can answer!
civic lotus
hey Tarzan, I am using subscription API along with the setupIntent API for future payments. If the request a trial extension, update subscription with new trial_end will suffice or I should use some update setupIntent as well
?
i am still awaiting your reply
sweet cloud
you really don't need the SetupIntent for configuring a trial period
and you don't even need it with Subscription API
civic lotus
then what would i need..
how do i enable trials
and how to create subscriptions after the trial end
sweet cloud
do you need to collect the payment method before or after the trial ends?
civic lotus
before the trial ends
sweet cloud
so on creation right?
civic lotus
before the trial ends...in between the trial period
not when the trial is created...sometime after that
sweet cloud
ok are you using Checkout to create the subscription?
civic lotus
no i have plans of my product..so cant use checkout
I must use SetupIntent for saving the card details, and paymentintent for processign the payment
ami correct?
sweet cloud
no i have plans of my product..so cant use checkout
I'm not sure I understand, would you mind elaborating?
sweet cloud
I must use SetupIntent for saving the card details, and paymentintent for proces...
are you using Stripe Billing? https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/overview
civic lotus
i cant use checkout flow because what i am selling is a saas product
sweet cloud
where did you read that you can't?
civic lotus
as in out of checkout and paymentintent, i should use intents as they have the latest support and upgrades
civic lotus
i cant provide checkout to the plans. its a subsciption
civic lotus
i cant allow this - , learn how to add a button to your website that creates a Checkout Session.
sweet cloud
you just need to change the mode from "payment" to "susbcription"
sweet cloud
i cant allow this - , learn how to add a button to your website that creates a C...
what?
civic lotus
the checkout button
sweet cloud
no not the checkout button
this is a different integration path
please read through the link I provided earlier
civic lotus
point no 3 says - Create a Checkout Session
Client and Server
Add a checkout button to your website that calls a server-side endpoint to create a Checkout Session.
sweet cloud
this could be any button
no necessarily a button saying "Checkout"
the idea is that you want something that "triggers" the creation of the Checkout Session
regardless what that trigger is
civic lotus
also, for point no- 6 and 6, i am not planning to use customer portal
sweet cloud
what are you planning to do?
you can choose the Custom-Code route if you don't want to build your integration around Checkout
you can then use this https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/trials#configure-free-trials-without-payment-methods-to-pause to pause the subscription if a payment method isn't provided before the end of the trial period
or this https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/trials#configure-free-trials-without-payment-methods-to-cancel if you want to cancel
if you want to collect the Payment Method you can expand on https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/object#subscription_object-pending_setup_intent
civic lotus
checkout looks better...will i need subscription api as well...for creating teh subscriptions?
sweet cloud
to get the client_secret for your Payment Elements
checkout looks better
if you use Checkout you don't need to create the Subscription yourself
the Checkout Session will do it for you
but in that case I would recommend collecting the payment method from the start with Checkout
civic lotus
also, can i bypass the customer portal usage
sweet cloud
yes you don't need the customer portal, this is optional
civic lotus
also, Continue to provision each month (if billing monthly) as you receive invoice.paid events. what if i am using my wn invoicing than Stripe's....will it work even then
sweet cloud
that's irrelevant of how you create the subscription
you will still get the invoice.paid events
civic lotus
so even I dont use Stripe's Invoice.. i will get the invoice events
sweet cloud
the Checkout will create the Subscription for you, and the Subscription will generate the invoices and you don't have to create the invoices manually yourself
civic lotus
ok
hollow solsticeBOT
civic lotus
one more thing, the checkout lets me create the trials and the payment towards subscription before the end of the trial?
mortal surge
Hi! I'm taking over my colleague. Please, give me a moment to catch up.
Yes, you can use the trial_end or trial_period_days parameter of subscription_data when creating the Checkout Session: https://stripe.com/docs/api/checkout/sessions/create#create_checkout_session-subscription_data-trial_end
civic lotus
what is the parameter to collect the payment details?
mortal surge
What do you mean?
civic lotus
the payment_method isnt there in the session object
mortal surge
You need to redirect the customer to the Checkout url, to collect the payment details: https://stripe.com/docs/api/checkout/sessions/object#checkout_session_object-url
civic lotus
I have a case when the customer pays before the trial ends, he pays but that will make the payment for future when the trial ends, shall I usemode setup for those paymnets
in create session api
although the product is of subscription type...
mortal surge
No, you should use mode:"subscription in this case.
mortal surge
Please, let me know if you have any other questions.
civic lotus
yes
customer_creation can be used upon subscription?
it says - Can only be set in payment and setup mode.
but if_required
The Checkout Session will only create a Customer if it is required for Session confirmation. Currently, only subscription mode Sessions require a Customer.
i want to create a customer when payment details are entered...so i will select customer_creation as always...right?
mortal surge
You can create a Customer before creating a Checkout Session
And then pass the Customer ID when creating a Checkout Session
civic lotus
i dont want that...only creating after the session's payment details are added
is it possible? as given
mortal surge
it says - Can only be set in payment and setup mode.
Could you please share a request ID where you see this error? req_xxx https://support.stripe.com/questions/finding-the-id-for-an-api-request
civic lotus
this is not my question'
hollow solsticeBOT
mortal surge
I need more context to answer your question correctly. That's why I am asking for the request ID.
civic lotus
i want to create a customer only during checkout when the payment details are enetered
?
how do i handle failed payments in case of checkouts
oblique mason
What are you looking to handle about the payment failures?
civic lotus
i am using checkout for payments
want to handle payment faillutres via checkout session
the help only talk about the paymentintents
oblique mason
What about the failure are you looking to handle? The Checkout page itself will surface any errors to the user and help them retry the payment