MarkoBoras

[prisma dirge]

👋 happy to help

[latent frost]

Did you understand what I need or should I describe better

[prisma dirge]

I think I get what you're asking, I'm just trying to figure out if this doable and how

just give me a few minutes to check that for you

[latent frost]

long story short

• stripe is not returning tax value for non eu countries because I am only registered in EU. I need to charge those users Croatia's tax rate.
• do I need to create one tax rate and use it for all users which are in that case or should I create for each user different tax rate

as I figured out I need to create tax rate object

and when non-eu user opens checkout he'll get that tax amount percentage

I just apply tax rate (txr_xxx..)

in

[prisma dirge]

I'm just trying to figure out the jurisdiction part of the tax rate

just give me a few minutes will be back shortly with an answer

[latent frost]

yeah ofc

tyy

I am still here

Tell me when you know something

[prisma dirge]

yes I was still looking into this

thanks for the bump

basically there is no way of specifying a "fallback" tax rate

if you want to use manually created tax_rates, you'd have to create one for each jurisdiction/country

otherwise it's better to rely on Stripe Tax for automatic tax rate calculation

[latent frost]

yeah but Stripe doesn't calculate tax rate for non-stripe and non-eu union countries (Serbia,Bosnia, ...)

tax rate in those cases is 0%

I legally need to charge them 25% (tax rate of Croatia), because our company is from Croatia

if you understand me what I am saying

[prisma dirge]

yes I do understand

then you'd have to create as much tax_rates as you need to cover all of your expected customer's countries/jurisdictions

[latent frost]

but can I do this

• Get customer
  const currentCustomer = await findCustomerById(customerId);
• Check where is user from
  const isEuropeanUnionUser = EU_COUNTRIES.includes(currentCustomer.address.country || '');

If isEuropeanUnionUser TRUE

• automatic tax
  If isEuropeanUnionUser false
• pass in tax_rates one tax rate of 25% that I'll create in dashboard

Then those users will always have 25% of tax

[prisma dirge]

but the problem is that tax_rate need to have a specific jurisdiction and will only apply when the customer is in that jurisdiction

[latent frost]

someone needs to pay tax ...

how then other people are selling in countries that stripe doesn't support and they're not from EU

[prisma dirge]

I'm not sure, not the most tax expert here to be honest

you can speak to someone from https://support.stripe.com/?contact=true they might be able to provide better help on the subject

but technically speaking I'm not sure there is a way for this to be done unless you want to calculate the tax yourself and add that as a line_item in your Checkout but if you need invoices that amount would be really considered as Tax

[latent frost]

what category is best to choose to ask this question

I mean this is really common question, I am sure someone else had this issue

I don't see logic that I manually create tax rate for all countries

Just one more time to confirm this question if I understood you correctly

I cannot mix tax rates and stripe tax ?

[prisma dirge]

there's Tax

as a topic

[latent frost]

ok found

what about this

I don't see logic that I manually create tax rate for all countries
Just one more time to confirm this question if I understood you correctly
I cannot mix tax rates and stripe tax ?

[prisma dirge]

yes that's correct

[latent frost]

ok

With that said, if your customer is not located in Europe, you need to specify their location on the Checkout session and you’ll be able to collect tax from them.

Which properties are for specying their address?
So if I am EU(Croatia) and my customer comes from Bosnia (NON-EU) and I specify Bosnian address what will be value of tax in checkout?
Exactly, the full address is required to complete the Checkout Session.

I already have retrieved user's full address (line1, city, country, postal code)
how can I pass that in checkout

?

[mortal knoll]

With that said, if your customer is not located in Europe, you need to specify their location on the Checkout session and you’ll be able to collect tax from them.
where is this quote from?

[latent frost]

stripe tax agent

but his replies are slow as fuck

every reply I need to wait 10minuites

and he is not api expert

[mortal knoll]

it's a complex topic.

[latent frost]

so can you please help me

I already have retrieved user's full address (line1, city, country, postal code)
how can I pass that in checkout
?

[mortal knoll]

you can't

Checkout doesn't work that way, you don't pass the address into it, it collects it.

so the information in the quote above is wrong unfortunately

we're not going to have this conversation in multiple channels so please only talk to our support team, it can escalate to email if required to dig in and get deep answers. It's not always possible to have a chat conversation about complex topics like this, sorry!

[latent frost]

thanks man

can you please me give some additional contact than customer support tax with which I am currently talking

I am sure someone else from EU has had this question how to sell something outside of EU

[mortal knoll]

no

I'm sure they do; https://support.stripe.com/?contact=true is the way to get support and escalate it if required

[latent frost]

ok

thanks

[mortal knoll]

I'm closing this thread, we can't spend this much bandwidth on multiple conversations with you