#SeanS
vernal island
lean karma
Unfortunately not. Balance Transactions are the only objects that show Connect Account fees and there aren't any events for those
clever shadow
so I shouldn't expect to see them included in payout balance transactions? Just realized I didn't check that before posting here...
lean karma
I'm not sure I understand the question. Can you link to the specific object you're referencing?
clever shadow
when we're processing payouts, the first thing we do is look up balance transactions by payout id
func List(params *stripe.BalanceTransactionListParams) *Iter
I was asking if there should be balance transactions for the fees returned in this Iter
ah, maybe I see
I do see fee and fee_detail
lean karma
Ah, yeah, that will have fees that pertain to the relevant charges
clever shadow
ok great! sorry, I should've done more digging first
do these fees represent all fees we should expect to see deducted from the payout?
nothing on top of payment/refund associated fees?
neon token
"Payout Fees" are not deducted from Payouts - they are aggregated and charged monthly to the platform account.
neon token
Far as I know - I don't work for Stripe (I also only use express)
lean karma
@neon token is right. If you're not talking about the fees taken on your payments specifically, then the actual Connect Account fees and Payout fees are not going to be included in your payouts
clever shadow
my question above was whether there are any fees on top of the payment/refund associated feels I see included in the payout for standard connect accounts
neon token
That said, there don't seem to be fees beyond the processing fees for Standard accounts - mostly because those are treated as fairly independent entities -you don't have as much payout control
neon token
I think of it as: with Standard, you are "merely" a front-end for their business, with your platform getting a defined fee. All other fees are the responsibility of the Standard account, as a fully independent business. In some cases you can initiate payouts - but as independent entities, they can over-ride.
clever shadow
right. I'm familiar with the percentage "fee" that you can hold back on the platform when routing the remainder, for example, to connect accounts using destination charges or something
but I'm realizing I don't know whether stripe charges any fees for operational stuff assessed on the connect account
neon token
clever shadow
or are 100% of stripe assessed fees in the form of fees on balance transactions (payments/refunds)
yeah, was just looking at that @neon token! so if that's accurate, I think my answer is yes, 100% of fees should be included in payout balance transactions
neon token
near as I can tell - just like directly your platform, the only fees are the transaction fees.
But I'll add what the Discord engineers would add - Support would be the real authority on that.
clever shadow
I guess we will find out one way or the other by simply tracking balance transaction fees and seeing if there's a discrepancy