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stable coralBOT Nov 30, 2022, 9:44 PM

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inner chasm Nov 30, 2022, 9:44 PM

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I can help you out here! What's your question?

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sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 9:44 PM

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Hey, how's it going?

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So yesterday we figured out that metered and scheduled subscription aren't supported via create checkout session

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But that we can use subscription, and the hosted invoice URL as a method of payment collection instead

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But can't make it work

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(I'm using postman for API calls)

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 9:49 PM

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Hey @sacred salmon can you provide a more specific question? A good summary, with what's not working clearly explained and what you tried, all in one message if possible

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 9:53 PM

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Sure, I'm trying to use create subscription that will generate a URL for payment instead of using create checkout session. Do I need to create a product first for this?

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Or can you please share an example of an API call like that?

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 9:57 PM

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Mostly you would create a Subscription and then the underlying Invoice would have a hosted_invoice_url property set

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https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/build-subscriptions

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 9:59 PM

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In this example it uses create checkout session though....

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 10:02 PM

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there's a choice at the top

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 10:07 PM

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great, thanks! So going back to my question - do I need to create a product for this first?

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 10:07 PM

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yes

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 10:08 PM

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thanks

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How can I associate a product with a connected account?

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 10:14 PM

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https://stripe.com/docs/connect/authentication#authentication-via-the-stripe-account-header

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that's how you make calls on behalf of connected accounts

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Are you building a platform with Standard accounts?

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 10:15 PM

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no

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custom

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I wanted to avoid creating products since it's pretty dynamic per customer<>connected account

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rate, freq. etc.

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With checkout session I can create everything dynamically, but it doesn't support metered and scheduled...

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 10:18 PM

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Okay so if you use Custom accounts then ignore what I said earlier. Everything happens on your own platform, so you create the Product on the platform. There's no way to make it specific to a connected account, you'd track this yourself for example with metadata or in your own database

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 10:19 PM

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wdym by creating the product on the platform?

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And what if we would use express instead?

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 10:20 PM

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Sorry for being cryptic, Discord is really busy right now

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 10:21 PM

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no worries

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Appreciate your help 🙂

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 10:21 PM

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You are a platform, you create a Subscription, everything happens in your account so all the Subscriptions, Products, Prices, Invoices, etc. all live in your account

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 10:21 PM

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got it

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thanks

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and that's true for express too?

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 10:22 PM

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yes

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 10:22 PM

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cool

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so looks like for products we could potentially use id with a prefix of acctXXX

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 10:25 PM

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well I would strongly discourage ever choosing your own id for Products, so no. Use metadata, or track it in your own database

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 10:26 PM

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👍

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do

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sorry

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Do I need to use collection_method send_invoice for generating the payment link?

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 10:36 PM

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I don't understand what you mean again sorry.

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PaymentLinks is a completely different product we have

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 10:37 PM

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I meant the hosted_invoice_url

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Sorry

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 10:37 PM

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So what's the problem? What do you see in the API? What have you tried?

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 10:38 PM

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I tried generating a subscription, with a product and customer I created

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Is the url supposed to be in the response, or I need to retrieve it somewhere else?

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 10:43 PM

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What have you tried? Please share real exact code

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Do you have the extra information @sacred salmon ? Seeing your exact code will help

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 10:54 PM

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Using your collection, I tried create a subscription, and got a subscription object

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📎 message.txt

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 11:00 PM

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Please I need your exact code

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the problem is likely that you get latest_invoice: 'in_123' in the response, but you want the full Invoice object instead so you want to use our Expand feature (https://stripe.com/docs/expand)

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:02 PM

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will check this

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btw, I just read this: https://stripe.com/docs/api/checkout/sessions/create#create_checkout_session-line_items-quantity

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Does it mean I can add usage_type to my call? can't see it in the body parameters

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 11:04 PM

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I don't understand your question is that a completely different question?

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:09 PM

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I got a reply in the email from support with a suggestion to use checkout session still, but leave quantity empty

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but can't see where I can set usage_type to metered

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 11:10 PM

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oh boy

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Have you tried creating a Price that is metered and then pass that Price id to Checkout?

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:10 PM

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nope

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I do it inline

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 11:11 PM

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then that's impossible

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either you create the Product/Price upfront first and use the Price id price_123 after that, or you can't do what you are after

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:12 PM

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got it

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thanks

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ok, going back to the subscription item, not sure how I can share what I send as I use your collection

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 11:18 PM

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I don't know what that means "I use your collection"

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:19 PM

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Sorry, Stripe Postman API collection

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Well, found it:

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--data-urlencode 'items[0][price_data][currency]=usd'
--data-urlencode 'items[0][price_data][product]=prod_Mtn65DEZHHtjUH'
--data-urlencode 'items[0][price_data][recurring][interval]=week'
--data-urlencode 'items[0][price_data][recurring][interval_count]=2'
--data-urlencode 'items[0][price_data][unit_amount]=125000'
--data-urlencode 'customer=cus_MtkgNyOcKkJ6Da'
--data-urlencode 'collection_method=send_invoice'
--data-urlencode 'days_until_due=14'
--data-urlencode 'transfer_data[destination]=acct_1M9YbE4esDfbqzim'
--data-urlencode 'transfer_data[amount_percent]=93'

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 11:21 PM

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yeah so really you're missing expand[0]=latest_invoice to look at the raw Invoice in the response and find the URL

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:22 PM

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cool, and do I need send_invoice there?

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 11:22 PM

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not unless you want to use that type of invoice

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:22 PM

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wdym

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I prefer not to send any emails

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As I'd like to redirect to payment immediately instead

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but otherwise I'd need to add customer payment details which I don't have yet...

jade gorge Nov 30, 2022, 11:28 PM

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then you don't need it

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:30 PM

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If I remove it I get an error

mild bronze Nov 30, 2022, 11:30 PM

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Hi 👋
Can you share the request ID for the request that gives you an error?

Here's how you can find a request ID: https://support.stripe.com/questions/finding-the-id-for-an-api-request

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:30 PM

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wait

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now I tried it again and it worked...

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oh, hi Snufkin

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🙂

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added expand[0] with latest_invoice, but can't see the url...

mild bronze Nov 30, 2022, 11:32 PM

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Once again, if you could share the request ID that would help

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It makes sure we are both looking at the same data

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:35 PM

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sure, sub_1M9zjSGKb7Nib0czst3vsIkV

mild bronze Nov 30, 2022, 11:36 PM

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Okay, Im actually looking at the API request you used to create the subscription: https://dashboard.stripe.com/test/logs/req_shWHrDhQwtM6Xs

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Just so we're on the same page

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The url is right there in the response. latest_invoice.hosted_invoice_url

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:46 PM

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Weird, why is it different in Postman?

mild bronze Nov 30, 2022, 11:49 PM

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That I don't know. However, we are returning the data. Is Postman collapsing parts of the returned data?

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:50 PM

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Not afaik

mild bronze Nov 30, 2022, 11:53 PM

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Have you tried using curl or any of our client libraries to retrieve the subscription? I doubt you would be using Postman in a production application.

sacred salmon Nov 30, 2022, 11:55 PM

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Oh, for sure not using it for prod 😊

mild bronze Nov 30, 2022, 11:59 PM

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In that case can you try retrieving the Subscription using whichever Stripe client library you have? I think we may get better results

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On the plus side, the creation request is doing what you are looking for

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 12:03 AM

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Awesome, thanks!

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As for what we discussed yesterday

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For scheduling in the future I put the date in billing_cycle_anchor, right?

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What about metered usage?

mild bronze Dec 1, 2022, 12:05 AM

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Yes, setting the billing cycle anchor in the future will do what you are looking for

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 12:06 AM

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I see that it shows licensed

mild bronze Dec 1, 2022, 12:06 AM

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You'll want to review this doc: https://stripe.com/docs/products-prices/pricing-models#usage-types

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 12:14 AM

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I meant where in the call I should define metered

mild bronze Dec 1, 2022, 12:15 AM

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On the price

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 12:18 AM

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So I need to make a different call then?

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And I see that there's no success/cancel urls for subscription like in checkout session... is there a way to redirect?

mild bronze Dec 1, 2022, 12:24 AM

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No that isn't an option with the Hosted Invoice Page

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 12:28 AM

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ok, thanks

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and reg. price, can't do it in the same call?

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Meaning I'd need to make a different call for creating price with metered?

mild bronze Dec 1, 2022, 12:30 AM

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I recall yesterday I said these were different interfaces. This is one of the shortcomings of the HIP in comparison to the Checkout Session. As for the Price, yes you will want to create a Price record separate from the Subscription API call

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 12:32 AM

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Thanks for all the help

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Appreciate it!

mild bronze Dec 1, 2022, 12:34 AM

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Happy to do it 🙂

vapid mango Dec 1, 2022, 1:14 AM

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👋 @sacred salmon gimme a few mins to catch up

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 1:17 AM

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sure thing

vapid mango Dec 1, 2022, 1:18 AM

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So the metered price worked. Now you want to set a start date in the future?

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 1:21 AM

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yes

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preferably using create checkout session

vapid mango Dec 1, 2022, 1:22 AM

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Okie, then let's use the subscription_data 's trial parameters. Either trial_end or trial_period_days

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https://stripe.com/docs/api/checkout/sessions/create#create_checkout_session-subscription_data-trial_end

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sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 1:27 AM

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but that would be visible to user, no?

vapid mango Dec 1, 2022, 1:30 AM

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It's to setup a trial, so yes. Your customer would need to know when the Subscription starts since they are paying to receive a service

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 1:31 AM

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yes, but the use case is that customers book recurring sessions

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And the cycle won't start immediately

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doesn't mean they're on a trial...

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Just a future date to start

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Wanted to use scheduled sub.

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Something like subscription start_date (or billing_cycle_anchor?)

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But in checkout session

vapid mango Dec 1, 2022, 1:46 AM

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Ah I see, unfortunately it's not available via Checkout. All the Subscription setting on Checkouts is inside the subscription_data above

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alternatively, you can use Checkout Session to collect PaymentMethod only (setup mode), then in backend, using the collected payment methods to freely use Subscription Schedule API, for example

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 1:53 AM

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that sounds good, how do I do that? just change to 'setup' instead of subscription?

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Well just tried it. So in setup I don't need all the other fields, which I'll handle later?

vapid mango Dec 1, 2022, 2:04 AM

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Yes!

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 2:08 AM

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Cool, how do I use the collected payment method?

vapid mango Dec 1, 2022, 2:13 AM

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When you finished, you receive the checkout_session.completed. You will have the SetupIntent. The PaymentMethod is inside it

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 2:26 AM

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And then I call create a subscription and put the payment method here: default_payment_method?

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I got this error:
The customer does not have a payment method with the ID pm_1MA20IGKb7Nib0czpvYDd74h. The payment method must be attached to the customer.

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And looking in the checkout session response I don't think it even creates a customer ID

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cs_test_c1FUT5l9PfkPWEURPdEXBs0ulYHt6DG4WkQWyO0or522KCsPWbmOm63cfD

vapid mango Dec 1, 2022, 2:34 AM

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Hmm okie, can you try to create a Customer beforehand and pass its ID in when create the Checkout Session (setup mode)?

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 2:38 AM

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yes

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BOOM

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this is sweet

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Now last thing

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well maybe 2

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How do I get a trigger when payment method collection is done?

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And probably would want to embed the payment collection in our app, I guess it's possible?

vapid mango Dec 1, 2022, 3:06 AM

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It would be the checkout_session.completed, if I understand you correctly

sacred salmon Dec 1, 2022, 3:12 AM

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Yes, do I need to create a webhook?

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well I can generate it using the success url

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