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sudden echoBOT Nov 10, 2022, 10:35 AM

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cloud lagoon Nov 10, 2022, 10:36 AM

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Hi there!

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PaymentMethods object (pm_xxx) is the newest and recommended way to handle payment methods. Cards (card_xxx) also works, but it's older.

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You can use both pm_xxx and card_xxx to accept payments.

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 10:39 AM

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there is another one source_xxx

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what about that?

cloud lagoon Nov 10, 2022, 10:41 AM

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That's an even older integration.

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What exactly are you trying to achieve here?

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 10:42 AM

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the problem is that I see different types of cards created during the flow

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when I create a payment method directyle it gets created as card_xxx

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when the card is created along with a subscription create is gets created as pm_xxx

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when I pay an one-off invoice it gets created as source_xxx

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the problem is that I cannot get the default payment method

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when I check for default source and the card is pm_xxx I get an error saying that the source does not exist

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If I use default payment method and the default is a source_xxx I get no default as a result

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is really a mess

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can you please give me a solution on how can I determine the default card?

cloud lagoon Nov 10, 2022, 10:53 AM

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Thanks for the additional information. There are two places to check on the customer object:

invoice_settings.default_payment_method, that could either contain a pm_xxx or a card_xxx
source, that could contain a src_xxx

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 10:54 AM

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I should call all the two APIs?

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what approach does Stripe use on dashboard for fetching the default payment method?

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does they call two API on themselves?

cloud lagoon Nov 10, 2022, 11:01 AM

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Are you asking this to know which default payment method will be used for a subscription or an invoice?
It looks like for subscription we first check the default payment method set on the subscription itself, then look at the source of the customer, and then at the invoice_settings.default_payment_method of the customer
You can learn more about this here: https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/object#subscription_object-default_payment_method

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 11:02 AM

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no I am not asking that

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I am asking how can I check user's default payment method

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what API endpoint should I call?

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to get the default payment method, ignoring the fact that i can have card_xxx, pm_xxx, source_xxx

cloud lagoon Nov 10, 2022, 11:02 AM

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You need to check two things: the source of the customer and the invoice_settings.default_payment_method. You can get both with one API call.

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 11:03 AM

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no, this is the problem

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If I use that and user has the default card with source_xxx, I will get nothing as user's default card

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invoice_settings.default_payment_method will ignore payment methods that has the id source_xxx or card_xxx

cloud lagoon Nov 10, 2022, 11:06 AM

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I'm sorry I don't understand the issue.

If a customer has a source_xxx, then just check customer.source to find it.
And if the customer doesn't have a source, check invoice_settings.default_payment_method to find a pm_xxx or card_xxx.
Note that it's also possible for customers to have no default payment method set.

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 11:11 AM

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but since default payement method is unique between all type of cards, why should I check invoice_settings.default_payment_method as well as customer.source

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isn't there any api endpint that would give me the default one

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I am curious to know, what API call does Stripe use on dashboard to show the default payment method?

cloud lagoon Nov 10, 2022, 11:15 AM

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why should I check invoice_settings.default_payment_method as well as customer.source
I agree this is not ideal. but if your integration is using both pm_xxx and source_xxx, then you need to check both places.

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Don't know exactly how the dashboard works, but they probably do the same thing: check both source and invoice_settings.default_payment_method. Both can be done in one API call.

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 11:15 AM

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ok

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I have another question on general

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what approach should I use to create a payment method

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I have a backend and a frontend

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Currently I create a setupintent on by backend and then I confirm that on frontend

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should I create it directly on froneted using createPaymentMethod?

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https://stripe.com/docs/js/payment_methods/create_payment_method

Stripe JS Reference

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this one?

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is the flow that I follow is better?

cloud lagoon Nov 10, 2022, 11:18 AM

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Currently I create a setupintent on by backend and then I confirm that on frontend
This is the recommended flow.

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And we have some docs about this if needed: https://stripe.com/docs/payments/save-and-reuse?platform=web

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 11:31 AM

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is it true that if I create a subscription and I pay the invoice on Stripe, the card gets created as src_xxx?

fallow onyx Nov 10, 2022, 11:36 AM

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👋 taking over for my colleague. Let me catch up.

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 11:45 AM

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please let me know

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Stripe used 2 kinds of defaults, just checked

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it used default_source and default_payment method

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so custoer can have two default cards on the same time

fallow onyx Nov 10, 2022, 11:47 AM

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quick question how are you settling the invoice? are you using Charge automatically or Send Invoice?

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 11:51 AM

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I am paying the invoice manually on Stripe

fallow onyx Nov 10, 2022, 11:52 AM

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how exactly? on the dashboard or on the Hosted Invoice Page?

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 11:55 AM

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here

fallow onyx Nov 10, 2022, 12:02 PM

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so you're using the Hosted Invoice Page

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that's why you're seeing the src_xxx objects

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since this product still uses Sources for the most part and card_xxx for the any invoice paid with a card

radiant mural Nov 10, 2022, 12:07 PM

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Buy why Stripe is using so many card types that are confusing

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now I have a strange problem

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I have these 4 payement methods

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as long as I use Stripe Dashboard to make a payment method as default, then after I fetch payment methods on my application I get all payment methods with invoice_settings.default_payment_method: null

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instead if I run the api call from my application and update invoice_settings.default_payment_method then everything works fine

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why if I choose the default card on Stripe Dashboard makes invoice_settings.default_payment_method: null for all payment methods

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this is weird

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customer_id: cus_MhHyeFwtBvmEOC

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this is the customer I am using

fallow onyx Nov 10, 2022, 12:15 PM

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first let's get a couple of things clear here, Hosted Invoice Page isn't the Stripe Dashboard (just to avoid the confusion)
and the "Default" you see here isn't the invoice_settings.default_payment_method but instead the default_source on the customer object

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does that answer your Q?

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fyi
this card was created through the dashboard hence the card_xxx https://dashboard.stripe.com/test/logs/req_cjTEMyXjpoelHZ
whereas this card was created through the Hosted Invoice Page hence the src_xxx
https://dashboard.stripe.com/test/logs/req_aOTEO6KTScL8vi

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