amdev-plan-idempotency | Stripe Developers | Page 1

cyan raptor Oct 25, 2022, 4:56 PM

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Hello @hot sundial I'm sorry I don't follow what you mean

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idempotency key has ~nothing to do with plans and cancelations and such

hot sundial Oct 25, 2022, 4:58 PM

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Our stripe plans are connected to an enrollment link, so a user has the link and is then enrolled in the plan. If an admin on our site cancels the plan for a user, but it's an accident, could they be re-enrolled by removing the idempotency key so they can have a duplicate plan

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I thought idempotency was to make sure users don't keep adding the same plan when they enroll. Is that wrong?

cyan raptor Oct 25, 2022, 4:59 PM

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yeah that is not really what idempotency keys are for sorry you likely are misunderstanding this

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https://stripe.com/docs/api/idempotent_requests

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You use an idempotency key to recover from a network error or a crash. Those are valid only 24 hours, there's no logic where you can only get a plan once and never again

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also the Plan API has been deprecated for a few years and replaced by the Price API

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and you're talking about an "enrollment link" but I'm not sure what that means

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ultimately, nothing on Stripe prevents you from subscribing to the same Price (or Plan) twice

hot sundial Oct 25, 2022, 5:02 PM

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I see what you're saying. But once you cancel a plan, that's it for the user. A whole new plan has to be created, right?

cyan raptor Oct 25, 2022, 5:02 PM

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not really no

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sorry I worry we're talking about completely different things at this point

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Are you a developer writing the code end to end? If so, can you share exactly what you are doing, which exact API you are using, etc.?

hot sundial Oct 25, 2022, 5:04 PM

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I'm a new dev so I'm looking through our codebase to try to solve this for our team. Now that I understand what you're saying...yeah I don't think what was proposed can work. Hoping to try to fudge something to get a user to re-enroll via the API so we aren't manually creating plans for user mistakes, but it looks like it really isn't possible

cyan raptor Oct 25, 2022, 5:05 PM

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I mean our API supports this and has from day one many years ago

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https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/create and you can pass a Price id price_123 (or plan_123 if you use the old API) totally fine whether it was created today or 7 years ago

hot sundial Oct 25, 2022, 5:06 PM

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Even if that id shows up as canceled for a user?

cyan raptor Oct 25, 2022, 5:07 PM

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a Plan can never be canceled

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Are you mixing up your vocabulary maybe?

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Do you mean a Subscription

hot sundial Oct 25, 2022, 5:08 PM

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Yes a subscription! We call them plans on our end

cyan raptor Oct 25, 2022, 5:08 PM

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😅

hot sundial Oct 25, 2022, 5:08 PM

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And everything I'm reading points to a no. But my team wants me to check

cyan raptor Oct 25, 2022, 5:09 PM

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It is impossible to take a canceled Subscription and bring it back to active. It is impossible to create a new Subscription and have it use the same sub_123456 id as the previous one

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You would simply create a new Subscription: https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/create

hot sundial Oct 25, 2022, 5:10 PM

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That's what I thought too. Someone on the team mentioned the idempotency key and I wanted to investigate that. Thanks for all of your patience!

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